Dead Sea Scrolls - contain NOTHING christological in them, zero ZILCH! | |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 75938312 Australia 12/04/2017 07:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The entire kit and caboodle is absurd, if you ask me. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75938312 History has been erased by the victors. Jeez, I wonder who they were. roma invicta. lucifer, christos filius tuus. That's nice dear. I'm quite certain that mental illness has been prolithic throughout the ages. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75927960 Israel 12/04/2017 07:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The writings of a non-christian jewish sect contain nothing relating to christianity? Really? How fascinating and surprising. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74256818 I know right?! the surprise is that christian scholars and international news outlets dont seem to notice, because they always brag about how the scrolls show the origins of christianity. |
Asiaman
User ID: 75886105 Sweden 12/04/2017 07:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why is the word j ews censored? Anyways do you people believe the Messiah to be a godly figure? Or equal to God? I doubt even Jesus had this modern day christanic/romanic belief. Last Edited by Asiaman on 12/04/2017 07:40 AM Asiaman |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75927960 Israel 12/04/2017 07:45 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why is the word j ews censored? Anyways do you people believe the Messiah to be a godly figure? Or equal to God? I doubt even Jesus had this modern day christanic/romanic belief. Quoting: Asiaman no. If anyone pretending to be Messiah would claim any such thing, we would crucify him or something. yet, those who worship a Messiah as a god, are busy blaming us that IN THE FUTURE we WILL worship our Messiah, who to them is the anti christ... as a god, the bigotry is insaaane. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75939999 United States 12/04/2017 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Prophet ISAIAH declared Jesus Christ, the ONLY Savior this world will EVER get, God Himself, the WORD of GOD, the ARM of the LORD IN THE FLESH. DEAD SEA SCROLL:ISAIAH 53 Who has believed our message? And to whom has the arm of the LORD been revealed? For he grew up before him like a tender plant, and like a root out of dry ground; he had no form and he had no majesty that we should look at him, and had no attractiveness that we should desire him. He was despised and rejected by others, and a man of sorrows, and familiar with suffering; and like one from whom people hide their faces and we despised him. Surely he has borne our sufferings, and carried our sorrows; yet we considered him stricken, and struck down by God, and afflicted. But he was wounded for our transgressions, and he was crushed for our iniquities, and the punishment that made us whole was upon him, and by his bruises we are healed. All we like sheep have gone astray; we have turned, each of us, to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. He was oppressed and he was afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, as a sheep that before its shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth. From detention and judgment he was taken away— and who can even think about his descendants? For he was cut off from the land of the living, he was stricken for the transgression of my people. Then they made his grave with the wicked, and with rich people his tomb although he had done no violence, nor was any deceit in his mouth Yet the LORD was willing to crush him, and he made him suffer. Although you make his soul an offering for sin, and he will see his offspring, and he will prolong his days, and the will of the Lord will triumph in his hand. Out of the suffering of his soul he will see light and find satisfaction. And through his knowledge his servant the righteous one will make many righteous, and he will bear their iniquities. Therefore will I allot him a portion with the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong; because he poured out his life to death, and was numbered with the transgressors; yet he bore the sins of many, and made intercession for their transgressions. |
Asiaman
User ID: 75886105 Sweden 12/04/2017 07:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | no. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75927960 If anyone pretending to be Messiah would claim any such thing, we would crucify him or something. yet, those who worship a Messiah as a god, are busy blaming us that IN THE FUTURE we WILL worship our Messiah, who to them is the anti christ... as a god, the bigotry is insaaane. I understand your post now and it makes sense that the Messiah is not a godly figure but christians will blame you. I got it now. Last Edited by Asiaman on 12/04/2017 07:56 AM Asiaman |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75939999 United States 12/04/2017 07:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | JOHN 1 1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. 4 In him was life; and the life was the light of men. 5 And the light shineth in darkness; and the darkness comprehended it not. 6 There was a man sent from God, whose name was John. 7 The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. 8 He was not that Light, but was sent to bear witness of that Light. 9 That was the true Light, which lighteth every man that cometh into the world. 10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. 11 He came unto his own, and his own received him not. 12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. WHERE IS JESUS NOW? 1 JOHN 5 7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are ONE. WHAT DOES GOD THE FATHER SAY ABOUT HIS SON? HEBREWS 1 1 God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, 2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds; 3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high: 4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they. 5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son? 6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him. 7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. 8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. 10 And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: 11 They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; 12 And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. 13 But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? 14 Are they not all ministering spirits, sent forth to minister for them who shall be heirs of salvation? Jesus Christ sits right this very minute, NEXT TO God the Father. He is glorified in Heaven. He is God Almighty, Seek Him before it is eternally too late. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75939999 United States 12/04/2017 07:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Philippians 2 5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: 7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: 8 And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. 9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: 10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; 11 And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. |
Zerubbabel
User ID: 73360297 United States 12/04/2017 08:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so the next time you read how the scrolls shed light on the origins of christianity... know it is yet another attempt by butthurt catholic scholars to leech their christianity to a Jewish host and to suck the life out of it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75927960 the fact the christian church sees the scrolls as christian heritage documents belonging to the church is a crime against humanity. but worry not... justice will be served. The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75939999 United States 12/04/2017 08:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | KING DAVID KNEW JESUS, his Savior. He saw Him REDEEMING MANKIND on Calvary! PSALM 22 1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? 2 O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. 3 But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel. 4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them. 5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded. 6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people. 7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 8 He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him. 9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts. 10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly. 11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help. 12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round. 13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion. 14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels. 15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death. 16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. 19 But be not thou far from me, O Lord: O my strength, haste thee to help me. |
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Zerubbabel
User ID: 73360297 United States 12/04/2017 08:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In fact, it is ALL about the Christ. There were WITNESSES to the supernatural processes going on in the ancient temple and they SAW that all their holinesses were as filthy rags and did everything possible to rid themselves of sin--up to and including self-castration to remove temptation in their lives. It was these "eunuchs" that Jesus spoke of and proclaimed as holy men even though they went to such extremes to be holy. They actually witnessed the ministry of the Christ to the Father in Most Holy Place of the ancient temple and other holy beings involved in the process typifying the entire ministry of Christ from the foundation of the world. All this material that I read about this is no longer available on the net. Revisionist methods are being used across the board to attempt to prevent us from knowing the full truth and marginalizing the incredible truth of the scrolls. Don't take anybody's word on this stuff. Study it for yourself or you will not be prepared for the quick events that are coming. The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75927960 Israel 12/04/2017 08:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | KING DAVID KNEW JESUS, his Savior. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75939999 He saw Him REDEEMING MANKIND on Calvary! PSALM 22 1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? 2 O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. 3 But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel. 4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them. 5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded. 6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people. 7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 8 He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him. 9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts. 10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly. 11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help. 12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round. 13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion. 14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels. 15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death. 16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. 19 But be not thou far from me, O Lord: O my strength, haste thee to help me. so its the same as in the masoretic text as in the scrolls, again NOTHING christians... just again christianity abusing Jewish texts. A) this is about DAVID B) the Hebrew both in the masoeretic and in the scrolls says. as a LION they are at my hands and my feet. no pierced, not in the masoretic not in the scrolls. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 53842274 United States 12/04/2017 08:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so the next time you read how the scrolls shed light on the origins of christianity... know it is yet another attempt by butthurt catholic scholars to leech their christianity to a Jewish host and to suck the life out of it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75927960 the fact the christian church sees the scrolls as christian heritage documents belonging to the church is a crime against humanity. but worry not... justice will be served. So are you actually arguing that Christianity’s origins don’t lie in the Jewish faith? I just want to know what degree of stupid I will call you. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75927960 Israel 12/04/2017 08:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Revisionist history says that there is nothing Christological in the scrolls. This is because, of course, that the original researcher (a woman) was replaced by a Vatican "scholar" and the information found was suppressed. Quoting: Zerubbabel In fact, it is ALL about the Christ. There were WITNESSES to the supernatural processes going on in the ancient temple and they SAW that all their holinesses were as filthy rags and did everything possible to rid themselves of sin--up to and including self-castration to remove temptation in their lives. It was these "eunuchs" that Jesus spoke of and proclaimed as holy men even though they went to such extremes to be holy. They actually witnessed the ministry of the Christ to the Father in Most Holy Place of the ancient temple and other holy beings involved in the process typifying the entire ministry of Christ from the foundation of the world. All this material that I read about this is no longer available on the net. Revisionist methods are being used across the board to attempt to prevent us from knowing the full truth and marginalizing the incredible truth of the scrolls. Don't take anybody's word on this stuff. Study it for yourself or you will not be prepared for the quick events that are coming. BS! the vatican ceased on the scrolls claiming them as his, and spreading rumors they are all about jesus. when released to the public... NO JESUS anywhere to be found! keep dreaming, your religion is a roman lie with no basis in Judaism. if you have anything. come on quote the scrolls talking about jesus!!! when the scrolls talk about the son of man, they talk about Israel, the same son of man the OT talks about, it is you christians who stole this and now say son of man = jesus, when it DOES NOT! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 75927960 Israel 12/04/2017 08:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so the next time you read how the scrolls shed light on the origins of christianity... know it is yet another attempt by butthurt catholic scholars to leech their christianity to a Jewish host and to suck the life out of it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75927960 the fact the christian church sees the scrolls as christian heritage documents belonging to the church is a crime against humanity. but worry not... justice will be served. So are you actually arguing that Christianity’s origins don’t lie in the Jewish faith? I just want to know what degree of stupid I will call you. yes, christianity is a lie made up by rome. |
Lofty Elim
User ID: 75047635 United States 12/04/2017 08:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So here is one. They were meant for someone else to Understand. It's very apparrent it's not YOU. [link to www.rocknrollhimbook.com] Praise the God of the Lofty Heights, O you Lofty Ones among all the Elim of Knowledge. Sing with Joy, you who rejoice in His Knowledge with rejoicing among the Wondrous Godlike Beings. And chant His Glory with the tongue of all who chant with Knowledge; Some People do Understand. Last Edited by Lofty Elim on 12/04/2017 08:29 AM Psalm33:3 Sing unto 'Him' a 'New Song'. Play 'SKILLFULLY' with a 'LOUD NOISE'. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75933820 Israel 12/04/2017 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You have no clue. Quoting: Lofty Elim So here is one. They were meant for someone else to Understand. It's very apparrent it's not YOU. [link to www.rocknrollhimbook.com] Praise the God of the Lofty Heights, O you Lofty Ones among all the Elim of Knowledge. Sing with Joy, you who rejoice in His Knowledge with rejoicing among the Wondrous Godlike Beings. And chant His Glory with the tongue of all who chant with Knowledge; Some People do Understand. Where is the christian jesus part?!?! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73415414 United States 12/04/2017 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | KING DAVID KNEW JESUS, his Savior. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75939999 He saw Him REDEEMING MANKIND on Calvary! PSALM 22 1 My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? why art thou so far from helping me, and from the words of my roaring? 2 O my God, I cry in the day time, but thou hearest not; and in the night season, and am not silent. 3 But thou art holy, O thou that inhabitest the praises of Israel. 4 Our fathers trusted in thee: they trusted, and thou didst deliver them. 5 They cried unto thee, and were delivered: they trusted in thee, and were not confounded. 6 But I am a worm, and no man; a reproach of men, and despised of the people. 7 All they that see me laugh me to scorn: they shoot out the lip, they shake the head, saying, 8 He trusted on the Lord that he would deliver him: let him deliver him, seeing he delighted in him. 9 But thou art he that took me out of the womb: thou didst make me hope when I was upon my mother's breasts. 10 I was cast upon thee from the womb: thou art my God from my mother's belly. 11 Be not far from me; for trouble is near; for there is none to help. 12 Many bulls have compassed me: strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round. 13 They gaped upon me with their mouths, as a ravening and a roaring lion. 14 I am poured out like water, and all my bones are out of joint: my heart is like wax; it is melted in the midst of my bowels. 15 My strength is dried up like a potsherd; and my tongue cleaveth to my jaws; and thou hast brought me into the dust of death. 16 For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they pierced my hands and my feet. 17 I may tell all my bones: they look and stare upon me. 18 They part my garments among them, and cast lots upon my vesture. 19 But be not thou far from me, O Lord: O my strength, haste thee to help me. I do not like them sam i am. - Green Eggs And Ham P.3 v.7 Both of our quotes have the same amount of evidence for being historical documents. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71688786 United States 12/04/2017 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so the next time you read how the scrolls shed light on the origins of christianity... know it is yet another attempt by butthurt catholic scholars to leech their christianity to a Jewish host and to suck the life out of it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75927960 the fact the christian church sees the scrolls as christian heritage documents belonging to the church is a crime against humanity. but worry not... justice will be served. And Judaism has hitched itself to an Egyptian-Babylonian way of doing things. No religion follows the text they purportedly subscribe to. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74256818 United Kingdom 12/04/2017 09:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The writings of a non-christian jewish sect contain nothing relating to christianity? Really? How fascinating and surprising. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74256818 I know right?! the surprise is that christian scholars and international news outlets dont seem to notice, because they always brag about how the scrolls show the origins of christianity. they do confirm the origins of Christianity. It's the Old Testament. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74256818 United Kingdom 12/04/2017 09:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so the next time you read how the scrolls shed light on the origins of christianity... know it is yet another attempt by butthurt catholic scholars to leech their christianity to a Jewish host and to suck the life out of it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75927960 the fact the christian church sees the scrolls as christian heritage documents belonging to the church is a crime against humanity. but worry not... justice will be served. So are you actually arguing that Christianity’s origins don’t lie in the Jewish faith? I just want to know what degree of stupid I will call you. yes, christianity is a lie made up by rome. Idiotic nonsense. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75933820 Israel 12/04/2017 09:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The writings of a non-christian jewish sect contain nothing relating to christianity? Really? How fascinating and surprising. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74256818 I know right?! the surprise is that christian scholars and international news outlets dont seem to notice, because they always brag about how the scrolls show the origins of christianity. they do confirm the origins of Christianity. It's the Old Testament. You dont realize but you admit the scrolls add no new information about jesus or any christian doctrine whatsoever |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75933820 Israel 12/04/2017 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so the next time you read how the scrolls shed light on the origins of christianity... know it is yet another attempt by butthurt catholic scholars to leech their christianity to a Jewish host and to suck the life out of it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75927960 the fact the christian church sees the scrolls as christian heritage documents belonging to the church is a crime against humanity. but worry not... justice will be served. So are you actually arguing that Christianity’s origins don’t lie in the Jewish faith? I just want to know what degree of stupid I will call you. yes, christianity is a lie made up by rome. Idiotic nonsense. The scrolls show there were no christuan teachings in judea for chritianity to emerge out of. Christianity is a roman psy op |
Lily o' the Valley
User ID: 71066807 United States 12/04/2017 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so the next time you read how the scrolls shed light on the origins of christianity... know it is yet another attempt by butthurt catholic scholars to leech their christianity to a Jewish host and to suck the life out of it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75927960 the fact the christian church sees the scrolls as christian heritage documents belonging to the church is a crime against humanity. but worry not... justice will be served. *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
Lily o' the Valley
User ID: 71066807 United States 12/04/2017 09:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | so the next time you read how the scrolls shed light on the origins of christianity... know it is yet another attempt by butthurt catholic scholars to leech their christianity to a Jewish host and to suck the life out of it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75927960 the fact the christian church sees the scrolls as christian heritage documents belonging to the church is a crime against humanity. but worry not... justice will be served. Rough weekend? Last Edited by Lily o' the Valley on 12/04/2017 09:14 AM *** Good deeds bring rewards, bad actions bring troubles. That is a law of the universe. *** |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75063049 United States 12/04/2017 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The Prophet ISAIAH declared Jesus Christ, Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75939999 the ONLY Savior this world will EVER get, God Himself, the WORD of GOD, the ARM of the LORD IN THE FLESH. Isaiah 53, in the scrolls is the SAME as in the Masoretic Text and is EXPLAINED THE SAMW WAY. IE... not about jesus. 'Shut up!', he explained. |