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Hey Pot Heads, Are You Ready To Choose....

 
Black Knight  (OP)

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12/04/2017 09:01 PM
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There are many problems that this legalization issue has raised and only time will tell how it all plays out. it will certainly not eliminate the Black Market availability of the substance, for taxed weed must surely be more expensive than BM weed. How Law Enforcement can determine the difference between legal and illegal weed is another problem. While I have never had any moral issues with smoking pot, I find myself not being able to answer the question of whether legalizing it will create a more motivated group of individuals to get out there and get the job done and get more involved in their communities or not. We are finding that medical marijuana smokers tend to have pot smoking children (my daughter has two in her 8th grade class) and I have never felt that getting high and learning go hand in hand too well if you know what I am saying. It is certainly going to get a lot more complicated, that is for sure.
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When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling

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Because I differentiate between those who choose to use marijuana for sport and those that use it all of the time. IMHO, those who use it daily are the ones that have to be careful or be caught. Those who choose to imbibe in substances of any kind when they feel like it and do not when they choose are not the ones that will be suffering at all from this turn of events.
 Quoting: Black Knight


Like caffeine, nicotine, alcohol, sex?

I'm so glad you are the moral arbiter of responsibility for everyone.

Oh yeah, does that " daily use" include patients prescribed Marinol? Just want to know how I should feel about these oncological, epileptic, chronic pain patients I dispense this drug too.

How about fuck that law, and just make people responsible for their action?

SHEEEESH
 Quoting: Deplorable Bodiless


I never claimed a moral high ground here, I am just warning of a backdoor effort to circumvent the 2ndAmmendment.
 Quoting: Black Knight

So glad you responded, I guess I didn't understand your intent. In all fairness, your use of the term pothead kinda helped that a bit.

I am Uber in sync with you about the backdoor to gun confiscation, and agree with you. I am just so damn fed up with "FEDS", current administration excluded. I know MJ has medical benefits, as I work with these patients. The FEDs do too, they have had 14 on a federal register since the 70's studying it, growing it at the U of Mississippi, and dispensing it to them.

But he War on Drugs(cough) sure does bring a shitpot full of revenue, disposable assets, and cheap duck ng labor to the Police State. Talk about being addicted to something....

RESPECT BK

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 Quoting: Deplorable Bodiless


Time to send the corrupt politicians and kosher big pharma ceos to the gas chamber.
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12/04/2017 09:07 PM

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Just purchased a firearm last week.

I didn't see anything new on the federal form you're required to fill out. (form #4473)

On it, it asks if you're an illegal user of drugs (including marijuana)
Since pot is legal here in Oregon, the Oregon residences would not be illegal users.
 Quoting: Sikhed


^^^THIS^^^

Agree, I'm also in Oregon.


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12/04/2017 09:08 PM
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Stupid pot heads gonna pot head lol
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12/04/2017 09:12 PM
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Stupid pot heads gonna pot head lol
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12/04/2017 09:19 PM
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Your medical records, including prescriptions are supposed to be private, right? Don't see how they can legally obtain your medical marijuana status.
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Your medical records, including prescriptions are supposed to be private, right? Don't see how they can legally obtain your medical marijuana status.
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And HIPPA (patient privacy laws) is a federally mandated law.
Also, the Feds are supposed to keep firearm purchases on record for only 5 years. Then destroyed. That law is in their own books also.

Any actual seizures would never pass an appeal court ruling.
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12/04/2017 09:42 PM
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...between your weed and your weapons? Well if not, get ready, or at least be careful. The government is back-dooring the 2nd Amendment utilizing "evil weed" as the key.

Last June I was made aware and then announced to our Township Committee that from what I had been told, marijuana was going to be legalized by June of 2018 after Governor Murphy was inaugurated here in New Jersey (a sure thing I was also told). When I mentioned this to my Son-In-Law, a SWAT Team cop in an urban PD, I was told that his PD had already been briefed that it would be done in early January 2018, not June. At our first Committee meeting in November, my Mayor held up the Pot Legalization bill that he was able to get a copy of in Trenton that very morning that had already passed the legislature. It was held back until the new governor takes office because Chris Christie would surely veto it.

Now jump up and down for joy all you want for this momentous event, but there will be a stiff price to pay let me assure you.

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I have done some Internet searches and I am finding that there is much fervor in the efforts to disarm those individuals that are ok'd to use medical Mary Jane. What the future will hold for these poor souls that are caught up in this mess right now is yet to be determined, but I am sure it is costing them a ton of cash and making a shitload of lawyers a ton of income. If those in the medical weed area are suffering so, how easy will it be for TPTB to utilize the same tactic to disarm the pot heads that are simply buying weed at the local weed store "legally". remember, unless the Federal government decriminalizes it, pot will still be "technically" illegal.

Do what you will, choose what you will choose to do, but be aware that the spotlight of LAW may very well screw up your day once you can be proved to be a pot user through your purchase records.
 Quoting: Black Knight


This is true. Even if you don't want to own a gun and never wanted to own a gun and never will own a gun, like me, there are other ways it can back fire.
That's kind of like telling all the so called "dreamers" to surface so they could have a good list of illegals.
I lived in Cali and was legal there, but it still made me paranoid to be on that list.
They might even call it some kind of treason some day, the breaking of Federal Laws. Who knows?
 Quoting: hollyavila


You sound scared. Who cares what they do? The worlds a piece of shit anyways.
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12/04/2017 09:46 PM
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Doesn't really matter, any serious pot head or grower knows you don't keep both in possession. The charges get a little more severe.
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That's why people should just grow their own , and not get on the medical marijuana government list.

Registering for being a medical marijuana is a bad choice.
 Quoting: Grove Street


Exactly, register lists are for criminals and sex offenders, not patients.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75190342


That is what I have been screaming about and wrote in a paragraph...screw the government.
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12/04/2017 09:56 PM
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I dont moke weed, but it seems easy to get around this. If its legalizes, then just buy it from a friend who goes to the store. Maybe find a lib freind who doesnt even care about guns, and then its win win, no?
Truthie McTruther

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If your state has legal weed DO NOT BUY IT! Grow your own!
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12/04/2017 09:58 PM
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If I remember right a case in the Oregon supreme court ruled on this very thing. The cops attempted to cancel a CCW permit of an individual due to him being on the medical pot list.

He won and it's now legal to have a CCW and medical M card in Oregon.
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Black Knight  (OP)

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I have come to believe that there is a huge difference between being patriotic and having any faith whatsoever in the US government. The two are completely different issues. I could never go against America the nation or the people that inhabit it, but the government has become not only completely corrupt, but totally worthless. The elected scum in Washington DC and pretty much every capitol city in the nation are simply in office to line their pockets and steal as much as possible from as many as possible for as long as possible. How is it that we keep re-electing these assholes?
He who feels the respect which is due to others cannot fail to inspire in them regard for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests, disrespect towards others, especially his inferiors, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself.

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling

Herr Bartlett, your German is good and I hear also your French. Your arms - UP!
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If you drink alcohol you have a greater chance of getting a serious mental illness later in life also
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OP isn't commenting on that, he's warning that the government isn't going to let you have a gun if they can prove you smoke pot.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75912726


Lol the government? Who is the government? [link to en.Wikipedia.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69643893


I never said it was a legitimate government.
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12/04/2017 11:04 PM
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why do we need weed legal again?
Black Knight  (OP)

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why do we need weed legal again?
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On the surface, at least, the state governments are looking to this as a revenue stream since unlike the Federal government, they cannot simply print cash. Those of us that do not trust these sellouts believe that they will utilize the consequences to achieve other agendas, such as disarmament.
He who feels the respect which is due to others cannot fail to inspire in them regard for himself, while he who feels, and hence manifests, disrespect towards others, especially his inferiors, cannot fail to inspire hatred against himself.

When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains, and the women come out to cut up what remains, jest roll to your rifle and blow out your brains and go to your gawd like a soldier. Rudyard Kipling

Herr Bartlett, your German is good and I hear also your French. Your arms - UP!
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I have come to believe that there is a huge difference between being patriotic and having any faith whatsoever in the US government. The two are completely different issues. I could never go against America the nation or the people that inhabit it, but the government has become not only completely corrupt, but totally worthless. The elected scum in Washington DC and pretty much every capitol city in the nation are simply in office to line their pockets and steal as much as possible from as many as possible for as long as possible. How is it that we keep re-electing these assholes?
 Quoting: Black Knight


I know you know first hand this is true.

I wonder the same thing. We don't reelect the multi termers, special interests, machines, do. That's why term limits are so important.
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12/04/2017 11:18 PM
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If you drink alcohol you have a greater chance of getting a serious mental illness later in life also
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75921440


My experience has shown me that moderation in all things is a wise choice to make.
 Quoting: Black Knight


Sage advice.
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12/04/2017 11:24 PM
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If your state has legal weed DO NOT BUY IT! Grow your own!
 Quoting: Truthie McTruther


Not everyone can grow their own.Decriminalization not legalization is the key.The US Constitution was printed on hemp paper.
Reggie Bannister

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12/04/2017 11:25 PM
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Guns or weed. That is the choice these people must make.
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why do we need weed legal again?
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Decriminalize.The Plant is a Gift of God.
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12/04/2017 11:27 PM
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Guns or weed. That is the choice these people must make.
 Quoting: Reggie Bannister


Wrong,the corporate pedo cannibal kosher big pharma dark cabal government can f-off
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If you smoke pot be ready for mental illness later in life. Not sure why anyone would subject themselves to it
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Your momma used dickweed...
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Stupid pot heads gonna pot head lol
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Because Coors light can't cure childhood leukemia
Reggie Bannister

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Stupid pot heads gonna pot head lol
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Because Coors light can't cure childhood leukemia
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ohyeah
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12/05/2017 12:04 AM
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I find it very amusing that those who preach and nag about MMJ or MJ for that matter, spout every spurious fact they can dream up...

But in reality, under current Federal Laws, it's illegal to do research on it much less procure it for research...

So if the research itself is illegal, how could you research it in the first-place...

But all those nay sayers seem to know EVERY FACT there is about it...

When they have ABSOLUTELY NO evidence scientifically or otherwise to back anything up...

Oh but go ahead and reference the film: "Reefer Madness."

And that is laughable...

SO, with that said, WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU SMOKING???
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WAKE THE FUCK UP. Mary Jane = GREEN = heart chakra (eat, laugh, relax). THIS IS WHY NO GUNS NECESSARY ANYMORE.

Come on, stop the nonsense already. You want to chill and smoke, then you don't give a fuck about shooting (even in self defense) anymore. You want to chill and enjoy the fucking heart. Guns = lower frequency chakras (where the DICK resides (you know, that other gun).
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Just don't get a license. Duh like a friend can't buy you pot in legal states
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There are many problems that this legalization issue has raised and only time will tell how it all plays out. it will certainly not eliminate the Black Market availability of the substance, for taxed weed must surely be more expensive than BM weed. How Law Enforcement can determine the difference between legal and illegal weed is another problem. While I have never had any moral issues with smoking pot, I find myself not being able to answer the question of whether legalizing it will create a more motivated group of individuals to get out there and get the job done and get more involved in their communities or not. We are finding that medical marijuana smokers tend to have pot smoking children (my daughter has two in her 8th grade class) and I have never felt that getting high and learning go hand in hand too well if you know what I am saying. It is certainly going to get a lot more complicated, that is for sure.
 Quoting: Black Knight


There is very little black market for weed here, I’m in a recreational state. I moved here from a non-recreational state about 2 years ago... Let me tell you, you won’t ever buy weed from a drug dealer again after buying from a dispensary. The price is comparable as well.. best part is that you are buying weed that has been tested and weighed out legally...so even if it’s more money it’s worth the quality/correct weight/safety (no mold)/legal risk.

Law enforcement can easily tell if weed is from a dispensary or a drug dealer...because the rules and regulations make the dispensaries label everything buy weight/time.date stamp. So it’s easy to tell the difference between a non labeled sandwich bag compared to a child safe container with a sticker labeling what’s inside.

The tax itself here is 20% which is outrageous but the tax doesn’t exist if you are a medical patient or caregiver. The tax revenue in the past calendar year put 80 million back into the state, how about that? That’s something those potheads contributed to.

I don’t understand why you are concerned about anyone’s motivation, you sound paranoid....a lot of potheads are lazy fucks but a lot of people who smoke weed, have good jobs, are creative, talented, rich, etc...

The “we are finding” medical mj users tend to have pot smoking children is just a stupid thing to assume





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