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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 70663772 United States 12/29/2017 11:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After some further research, I would surmise the NMDA antagonism route of dissociation to be that which holds the greatest risk for neurotoxicity. So that leaves kappa Opioid (KOR) or GABA agonism. When it comes to the cortex, the former is concentrated more so in the prefrontal, the latter widespread throughout, so perhaps it's arguable that KOR agonism combined with, in particular, 5HT2a/2c agonism would produce more differentiable, less synergistic effects... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76025903 United States 12/30/2017 12:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see where doctors can order blood tests that measure serotonin levels. If you're worried about serotonin syndrome you can titrate the dose using the blood test. Might be a good idea to have some diazepam on hand in case you screw up the dose and start freaking the fuck out You're embarking on a journey that has serious dangers. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 50014795 United States 12/30/2017 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interestingly enough, we still don't know precisely what receptor activity is responsible for ethanol's psychoactivity. That's right - the recreational drug we know the least about is the most legal. The alcohol reduces the surface tension of the water. It changes the brains water environment so it all works differently. |
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User ID: 75750036 United States 12/30/2017 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thats because alcohol goes in the blood. When the one great scorer comes to write against your name, he writes not that you won or lost but how you played the game. The stance and stare of a wolf you find yourself alone with will tell you that he is prepared to treat you as you would treat him. Whether that comforts or frightens you, he has told you all you need know about both. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 70663772 United States 12/30/2017 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see where doctors can order blood tests that measure serotonin levels. If you're worried about serotonin syndrome you can titrate the dose using the blood test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76025903 Might be a good idea to have some diazepam on hand in case you screw up the dose and start freaking the fuck out You're embarking on a journey that has serious dangers. Diazepam isn't a GABA or KOR antagonist, so it's far from an ideal antidote. It could actually make matters worse. Everyone embarking on the journey of life faces dangers. What differentiates is the level of awareness of them. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75935054 United States 12/30/2017 01:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Interestingly enough, we still don't know precisely what receptor activity is responsible for ethanol's psychoactivity. That's right - the recreational drug we know the least about is the most legal. its a gaba receptor modulator initially, but it has systemic effects from increased membrane fluidity (initial increase in diffuse connectivity followed by increased action potential recovery times due to reduced ion channel effectiveness). |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 70663772 United States 01/28/2018 06:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Does it? Please explain the blood brain barrier.? . sigh... the blood-brain barrier does not bar all blood from traveling into the brain - it serves as a filter so that not everything carried in the blood can reach the brain. Do you know what a stroke is? What long-lasting effects a person suffers when one no longer receives blood flow into one's brain? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 69943055 United States 01/28/2018 06:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why WOULD nature produce potent dissociation and potent serotonergic agonism simultaneously? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76180141 Exactly. WHY would one natural thing NEED to produce both effects? Answer that. Then find a "natural item" that has that need or desire. It will involve either evolution or genetic manipulation. Or just find one pill ( mushroom, tree bark, etc) that is a potent dissociative. Then find a second pill ( or natural item) that is a potent serotonergic agonist. --- Benzodiazepines are a dissociative. Many things are serotengic. Triptans, sumatriptans, relpax, ssri's, dextromethorpan. Benzos are part of the treatment for serotonin syndrome. [link to www.sciencedirect.com (secure)] |
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User ID: 76161217 Australia 01/28/2018 06:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I see where doctors can order blood tests that measure serotonin levels. If you're worried about serotonin syndrome you can titrate the dose using the blood test. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76025903 Might be a good idea to have some diazepam on hand in case you screw up the dose and start freaking the fuck out You're embarking on a journey that has serious dangers. I didn't know any of that, thanks AC. -------- OP; drugs are bad. Why break your best asset? NowIhavetothinkofanameohnoithurts It's all bull! Nevertheless, the ruler is not truly wise who cannot discern evils before they develop themselves, and this is a faculty given to few. Niccolo Machiavelli Karma is funny, people who kick dogs usually get bitten. If someone doesn't add value to your life, then that someone shouldn't be a part of it. You can always trust people to do whatever is in their own interests. It is certain wastelands will be brought under cultivation. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 70663772 United States 01/28/2018 08:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why do our bodies naturally produce lots of drugs, then? Why do we synthesize the most powerful hallucinogenic tryptamine within our own bodies? Our best asset relies on drugs to function properly. I question whether the functional limits we are taught it to have are based on truth or not. I question what might happen if we were to remind our best asset of what it once was capable of doing. Our DNA is trained through experience in life, and we pass on our trained DNA to our offspring. We do not pass on the DNA we were born with to our offspring. The blueprint of how to use drugs within our own bodies, then, is decided as much in part by our own experiences as it is with the knowledge we were born with. |