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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74919280 United States 01/02/2018 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this more of fake news? The source seems dubious to me. OP, have you checked dot gov. for the # of the bill? I have sincere doubts about this. In other words, let’s not get in a tizzy over what might not even exist. And even if it does, I would highly doubt POTUS would sign such a thing. Why do you give them the benefit of the doubt? They are worse than bad. It's real and I think worse than Op's article link makes it out to be. [link to www.congress.gov (secure)] Here is a strange one... SEC. 2. TRANSPORTATION OR TRANSHIPMENT OF BLANK CHECKS IN BEARER FORM. Section 5316 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following: “(e) Monetary Instruments With Amount Left Blank.—For purposes of this section, a monetary instrument in bearer form that has the amount left blank, such that the amount could be filled in by the bearer, shall be considered to have a value of more than $10,000 if the instrument was drawn on an account that contained, or was intended to contain more than $10,000 at the time— “(1) the instrument was transported; or “(2) the instrument was negotiated or was intended to be negotiated.”. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 74317577 United States 01/02/2018 02:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75658010 This is exactly right! When are the TRUE conservatives in this country going to step up? You guys keep typing this...as if it is your job to encourage conservatives to start a war. We ALREADY stepped up, we put president Trump in the White House. -- We? If you voted for, and support Trump, you are far from being a Conservative. I right wing nut job? Perhaps. But not at all Conservative. Oh, you're a NeverTrumper. Okay, Lil'Bush...I see you now. You guys are indeed working for the Big Bush cartel to try and kick off a war for your devil bosses. -- I'm a Democratic Trump supporter. You right wing nut jobs are idiots if you think Trump supports your agenda. He is in this to destroy the Republican Party, and doing a fine job of it, I may add... Don't believe me, wait until you see the swing come November 2018! |
R. Fox
(OP) User ID: 75983033 Spain 01/02/2018 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How is it some of the same traitors names show up repeatedly on certain bills? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76066913 The constiuents in those districts must be full on retards,mormons need to step it up! Yall are slipping on the iq end! Too many inbreeds or what? My guess is vote fraud. Trump is fixing that, which is huuuuge! No one in Arizona, my state, thinks McCain was legitimately voted in. "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
everLearner
User ID: 71889217 United States 01/02/2018 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sessions is FOR this kind of shit. Trump is not Reliably Against it. He would probably sign it. I'm confident the bill will die an early death. Sponsors are among the swampiest of swamp-things. Feinstein? Orrin Hatch? Eeesh... Thankfully, we just found out Hatch will not be running for re-election. He's retiring later this year. Also, let me reiterate... The bill hasn't passed anywhere. It's only been introduced in the Senate. You're right. It says it passed in the original article, but the .gov site doesn't reflect that. Do you happen to know if the site is updated immediately or does it take some time to show when a bill changes status? Breathing easier... The .gov would reflect it. That "news" site appears click-baity as hell. It's covered in garbage ads with a 'click to read the next page' hook. |
Nameless the Deplorable
User ID: 75951926 United States 01/02/2018 03:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Nameless the Deplorable You guys keep typing this...as if it is your job to encourage conservatives to start a war. We ALREADY stepped up, we put president Trump in the White House. -- We? If you voted for, and support Trump, you are far from being a Conservative. I right wing nut job? Perhaps. But not at all Conservative. Oh, you're a NeverTrumper. Okay, Lil'Bush...I see you now. You guys are indeed working for the Big Bush cartel to try and kick off a war for your devil bosses. -- I'm a Democratic Trump supporter. You right wing nut jobs are idiots if you think Trump supports your agenda. He is in this to destroy the Republican Party, and doing a fine job of it, I may add... Don't believe me, wait until you see the swing come November 2018! You out of tinfoil? It's time to replace your hat. And by the way, the Dem/Rep UNIPARTY, can both take a dive for all I care. I voted for President Trump because he ISN'T one of them. -- 'If you're going through Hell, keep going." -Winston Churchill "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76004190 United States 01/02/2018 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this more of fake news? The source seems dubious to me. OP, have you checked dot gov. for the # of the bill? I have sincere doubts about this. In other words, let’s not get in a tizzy over what might not even exist. And even if it does, I would highly doubt POTUS would sign such a thing. Thanks. I was hoping it wasn't true, but the bill seems to be in process... [link to www.congress.gov (secure)] Yeah, good luck with this one. The video says it covers bitcoin and cryptocurrencies. Gold and precious metals aren't included. "The bill seems to be in process." Yet your title is "Senate passes bill." Then you start talking about "trump still has to sign it." For all the non hysterical idiots, the bill was introduced last May and that was it. Do any of you really believe OP is this stupid? Did they really believe that dumbass website was a reliable source? |
R. Fox
(OP) User ID: 75983033 Spain 01/02/2018 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Pilgrim001 Sessions is FOR this kind of shit. Trump is not Reliably Against it. He would probably sign it. I'm confident the bill will die an early death. Sponsors are among the swampiest of swamp-things. Feinstein? Orrin Hatch? Eeesh... Thankfully, we just found out Hatch will not be running for re-election. He's retiring later this year. Also, let me reiterate... The bill hasn't passed anywhere. It's only been introduced in the Senate. You're right. It says it passed in the original article, but the .gov site doesn't reflect that. Do you happen to know if the site is updated immediately or does it take some time to show when a bill changes status? Breathing easier... The .gov would reflect it. That "news" site appears click-baity as hell. It's covered in garbage ads with a 'click to read the next page' hook. I apologize for that. I use Slimjet which suppresses ads. I will keep an eye on the .gov site to see if anything changes in the next few days. If it hasn't passed the Senate, I'm very sorry. I saw the article and then checked the .gov site and missed a critical detail. I guess one can never do enough due diligence. Last Edited by Rampant Fox on 01/02/2018 03:11 PM "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
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TheLordsServant
User ID: 76067471 United States 01/02/2018 03:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is just about as stupid as the question on my tax returns..."Did you BARTER any items this year and what was their value?" Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76039392 "The items were worth a barrel of..." Last Edited by Servant-of-the-LORD on 01/02/2018 03:15 PM I am a humble Servant of the one True Living God. |
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TheLordsServant
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everLearner
User ID: 71889217 United States 01/02/2018 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: everLearner I'm confident the bill will die an early death. Sponsors are among the swampiest of swamp-things. Feinstein? Orrin Hatch? Eeesh... Thankfully, we just found out Hatch will not be running for re-election. He's retiring later this year. Also, let me reiterate... The bill hasn't passed anywhere. It's only been introduced in the Senate. You're right. It says it passed in the original article, but the .gov site doesn't reflect that. Do you happen to know if the site is updated immediately or does it take some time to show when a bill changes status? Breathing easier... The .gov would reflect it. That "news" site appears click-baity as hell. It's covered in garbage ads with a 'click to read the next page' hook. I apologize for that. I use Slimjet which suppresses ads. I will keep an eye on the .gov site to see if anything changes in the next few days. If it hasn't passed the Senate, I'm very sorry. I saw the article and then checked the .gov site and missed a critical detail. I guess one can never do enough due diligence. No prob. It happens :) |
R. Fox
(OP) User ID: 75983033 Spain 01/02/2018 03:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | They need a search warrant that specifically spells out where the cash is in my house. It can't be general. Quoting: A1Janitor They can kiss my ass. They push everyone too far - we all should just stop paying taxes. They're like vermin. Always trying to get in where they don't belong. It takes a lot of vigilance to preserve our freedom and privacy. Thank God for Trump! "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36077022 United States 01/02/2018 03:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Senator Grassley introduced it. Quoting: R. Fox Senator Grassley introduced it. Senator Grassley introduced it. Senator Grassley introduced it. Senator Grassley introduced it. Senator Grassley introduced it. [link to www.congress.gov (secure)] Republican ^^^ Let's not forget that at least 51 assholes voted for it. We need to list them, publicize them, and shame them. Then replace them. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76065069 United Kingdom 01/02/2018 03:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It says assets. What kind of assets? Jewelry, furniture, electronics? Quoting: R. Fox Are we supposed to list all of our worldly good? Anything with monetary value I'd assume is where it would eventually lead too. If this bill doesn't cover it Already yep. so when the shit hits the fan and they're flat broke its ok they can just come take your stuff. isn';t freedom wonderful |
R. Fox
(OP) User ID: 75983033 Spain 01/02/2018 03:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Senator Grassley introduced it. Quoting: R. Fox Senator Grassley introduced it. Senator Grassley introduced it. Senator Grassley introduced it. Senator Grassley introduced it. Senator Grassley introduced it. [link to www.congress.gov (secure)] Republican ^^^ Let's not forget that at least 51 assholes voted for it. We need to list them, publicize them, and shame them. Then replace them. Right? I think after some time here, I'm going to have charts and graphs pasted all over my walls. A whiteboard would be handy too. "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36077022 United States 01/02/2018 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is this more of fake news? The source seems dubious to me. OP, have you checked dot gov. for the # of the bill? I have sincere doubts about this. In other words, let’s not get in a tizzy over what might not even exist. And even if it does, I would highly doubt POTUS would sign such a thing. Why do you give them the benefit of the doubt? They are worse than bad. It's real and I think worse than Op's article link makes it out to be. [link to www.congress.gov (secure)] Here is a strange one... SEC. 2. TRANSPORTATION OR TRANSHIPMENT OF BLANK CHECKS IN BEARER FORM. Section 5316 of title 31, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following: “(e) Monetary Instruments With Amount Left Blank.—For purposes of this section, a monetary instrument in bearer form that has the amount left blank, such that the amount could be filled in by the bearer, shall be considered to have a value of more than $10,000 if the instrument was drawn on an account that contained, or was intended to contain more than $10,000 at the time— “(1) the instrument was transported; or “(2) the instrument was negotiated or was intended to be negotiated.”. That is idiotic. Many closings on property require an instrument to finish a payment, and the exact amount is not known beforehand. A lawyer at a closing may well have such a thing. |
The Comedian :D
User ID: 75177906 United States 01/02/2018 03:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ^ So much this ^ Saint Comedian, Patron Saint of Bringing the Butthurt to Dipshits ‘There are some assholes in the world that just need to be shot.’ - General Mattis, USMC, Secretary of Defense [link to www.godlikeproductions.com] "Subterfuge and social pressure are the wheel and fire of the 21st century" - Some asshole Legal Disclaimer: All comments are intended as humor and/or fiction and not advice, and not to be confused with any event or person, living or dead. |
nutmeg
User ID: 74789295 United States 01/02/2018 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | S.1241 - Combating Money Laundering, Terrorist Financing, and Counterfeiting Act of 2017 115th Congress (2017-2018) | [link to www.congress.gov (secure)] * Money Laundering * Terrorist Financing * Counterfeiting Last Edited by nutmeg on 01/02/2018 03:50 PM |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76038520 Canada 01/02/2018 03:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A new Senate bill will start forcing citizens to report cash and other assets not held in banks. This bill is stated to combat terrorism and money laundering. But is it? It seems to most like just another government attempt to steal assets and raise revenue for social programs as this bill will give the government the authority to track assets and seize them should an individual fail to report independently held assets exceeding $10,000. Quoting: Rampant Fox This brings to mind the FBI raid under former FBI Director Comey of a small Texan Conservative political gathering back in 2015. Agents confiscated electronics and forcibly fingerprinted all 60 people gathered at the meeting. Now let’s just suppose for a second that they found any evidence of unreported wealth during the raid. You better believe they’d have seized-up all the assets. This is a very real possibility unfolding before us right now since the Senate just passed this bill. The government is even going to start throwing people in prison if they find out folks haven’t been reporting ALL of their assets. How long would you guess the minimum federal sentence would be for failing to report assets not held in a back? Here is a hint. It’s about double the average time handed for 1st-time rape offenders. Find out more about this freedom infringing bill and how it gives the government the right to start wiretapping private citizens on the next page. (less than 50%) [link to www.truthandaction.org] There. I made bold the main sentence here: Question: Why have they not gone after bitcoin? Seems bitcoin fits nicely into the categories they use as reasons. I tell you why, Its because bitcoin is their creation |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 36077022 United States 01/02/2018 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That thang is very weasel worded. Lots of other laws incorporated and changed by reference, and by changing key words in them. The bill can't be speed-read, it has so many other laws that get changed that you'd need a law library with a large conference table to meaningfully sort out what it's really doing. |
Nameless the Deplorable
User ID: 75951926 United States 01/02/2018 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A new Senate bill will start forcing citizens to report cash and other assets not held in banks. This bill is stated to combat terrorism and money laundering. But is it? It seems to most like just another government attempt to steal assets and raise revenue for social programs as this bill will give the government the authority to track assets and seize them should an individual fail to report independently held assets exceeding $10,000. Quoting: Rampant Fox This brings to mind the FBI raid under former FBI Director Comey of a small Texan Conservative political gathering back in 2015. Agents confiscated electronics and forcibly fingerprinted all 60 people gathered at the meeting. Now let’s just suppose for a second that they found any evidence of unreported wealth during the raid. You better believe they’d have seized-up all the assets. This is a very real possibility unfolding before us right now since the Senate just passed this bill. The government is even going to start throwing people in prison if they find out folks haven’t been reporting ALL of their assets. How long would you guess the minimum federal sentence would be for failing to report assets not held in a back? Here is a hint. It’s about double the average time handed for 1st-time rape offenders. Find out more about this freedom infringing bill and how it gives the government the right to start wiretapping private citizens on the next page. (less than 50%) [link to www.truthandaction.org] There. I made bold the main sentence here: Question: Why have they not gone after bitcoin? Seems bitcoin fits nicely into the categories they use as reasons. I tell you why, Its because bitcoin is their creation Do you think bitcoin is being used to trap people using it for illegal purchases on the dark web? -- 'If you're going through Hell, keep going." -Winston Churchill "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, |
Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 01/02/2018 03:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So any asset...with a value of OVER $10,000 Quoting: PIR That includes: Gold Silver Bitcoin or any other crypto currency Art work Jewelry Collectible/classic automobiles or motorcycles antiques Find yourself with any of the above or a combination of any of the above valued over $10,000 and if you fail to report it...they can raid your home...freeze your bank accounts and confiscate every single thing you own and THEN throw you in jail! I don't have any single asset with a value of over 10K, except my house and car. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
R. Fox
(OP) User ID: 75983033 Spain 01/02/2018 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A new Senate bill will start forcing citizens to report cash and other assets not held in banks. This bill is stated to combat terrorism and money laundering. But is it? It seems to most like just another government attempt to steal assets and raise revenue for social programs as this bill will give the government the authority to track assets and seize them should an individual fail to report independently held assets exceeding $10,000. Quoting: Rampant Fox This brings to mind the FBI raid under former FBI Director Comey of a small Texan Conservative political gathering back in 2015. Agents confiscated electronics and forcibly fingerprinted all 60 people gathered at the meeting. Now let’s just suppose for a second that they found any evidence of unreported wealth during the raid. You better believe they’d have seized-up all the assets. This is a very real possibility unfolding before us right now since the Senate just passed this bill. The government is even going to start throwing people in prison if they find out folks haven’t been reporting ALL of their assets. How long would you guess the minimum federal sentence would be for failing to report assets not held in a back? Here is a hint. It’s about double the average time handed for 1st-time rape offenders. Find out more about this freedom infringing bill and how it gives the government the right to start wiretapping private citizens on the next page. (less than 50%) [link to www.truthandaction.org] There. I made bold the main sentence here: Question: Why have they not gone after bitcoin? Seems bitcoin fits nicely into the categories they use as reasons. I tell you why, Its because bitcoin is their creation "'The time has come, the walrus said, 'to talk of many things. Of shoes and ships and sealing wax. Of cabbages and kings.'" -Lewis Carroll, "The Walrus and the Carpenter" I don't care how bad the storm is. It's better than sitting in a swamp |
Nameless the Deplorable
User ID: 75951926 United States 01/02/2018 03:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | So any asset...with a value of OVER $10,000 Quoting: PIR That includes: Gold Silver Bitcoin or any other crypto currency Art work Jewelry Collectible/classic automobiles or motorcycles antiques Find yourself with any of the above or a combination of any of the above valued over $10,000 and if you fail to report it...they can raid your home...freeze your bank accounts and confiscate every single thing you own and THEN throw you in jail! I don't have any single asset with a value of over 10K, except my house and car. And technically, we don't really own our home or our cars...and they were already seizing those prior to this bill. I don't own a single asset with a value over 10k either. -- 'If you're going through Hell, keep going." -Winston Churchill "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing." -Edmund Burke Hard times create strong men, Strong men create good times, Good times create weak men, Weak men create hard times, |
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