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Deplorable Azila_Again
(OP) User ID: 75557433 United States 01/08/2018 11:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A link for Lady Jane if you haven't already seen, I'm sure you have done some native research since your test? This link talks about how one child may inherit a native ancestry gene and a sibling/s of that same child may not..anyway, thought it might help Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76025269 [link to www.rootsandrecombinantdna.com] If I read that correctly, it says American Indian will sometimes present itself as Asian? The real question is, do you even doodle Bro? |
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LoneStarRising
Forum Moderator User ID: 32654802 United States 01/08/2018 12:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Neanderthals were around longer. That DNA shows up so African should show up in everybody's but it doesn't. Ask yourself why not? That goes back too far in time for genome testing to pick it up. Go back that far and we're all related which is not what genome testing is looking for. It's looking for differences. My husband's came back with a minute trace of African DNA from over 200,000 years ago. Me? None. They can determine it was from over 200,000 years ago? How did he take the news? LoneStarRising |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76025269 United States 01/08/2018 12:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A link for Lady Jane if you haven't already seen, I'm sure you have done some native research since your test? This link talks about how one child may inherit a native ancestry gene and a sibling/s of that same child may not..anyway, thought it might help Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76025269 [link to www.rootsandrecombinantdna.com] If I read that correctly, it says American Indian will sometimes present itself as Asian? Some of them, yes, that is how I read it too |
Deplorable CatRWall
Deplorable CatRWall User ID: 70071324 United States 01/08/2018 12:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Did the Ancestry DNA one. Had been told we were Welsh and 1/8 Cherokee Indian. Test for me and my siblings came back mostly Irish and 0% Native American. Was all European with a small amount of central Mongolia. I am assuming it means I am a decendant of Genghis MFing Khan. Quoting: LoneStarRising I'm seeing a common trend here. Many of us who know we have Native American ancestors are coming back with none in DNA. Which means that the Native Americans were fooled out of their land and then killed in the 1622 Indian Massacre before they could claim DNA ties to the King of England. I think for some reason people wanted to claim Native American heritage when it did not exist. Not sure why. Both my Mom and Dad were told they were1/8 Cherokee. I have heard this from several people. Thought they were of Cherokee heritage but came back 0%. Have you looked at the old Cherokee pictures? They look Jewish! And some have turned out to have Jewish DNA I once saw a grade B western in which the indian chief was played by a jewish guy with a big nose and a Brooklyn accent. Funniest thing I ever saw, laughed my arse off! |
Deplorable Azila_Again
(OP) User ID: 75557433 United States 01/08/2018 12:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A link for Lady Jane if you haven't already seen, I'm sure you have done some native research since your test? This link talks about how one child may inherit a native ancestry gene and a sibling/s of that same child may not..anyway, thought it might help Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76025269 [link to www.rootsandrecombinantdna.com] If I read that correctly, it says American Indian will sometimes present itself as Asian? Some of them, yes, that is how I read it too That article/blog is really insightful I supposedly had American Indian, my test showed none but, a small Asian percentage. Hmmmm.....interesting The real question is, do you even doodle Bro? |
Deplorable CatRWall
Deplorable CatRWall User ID: 70071324 United States 01/08/2018 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was always told I was German with some Irish. Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again I'm not German at all. Predominantly Scandinavian, with Irish/Scottish as the second most prominent. No American Indian either, as I was also told. Big shocker for me. Anyone else do this? Found I'm related to a friend from work who is about 96% ashkenazi. Related on one of her few non-ashkenazi genes. Her ancestors are from Russia, mine from Ireland. I'm thinking how did that come about? Well! Did a little sleuthing and bingo! Turns out a lot of Irishmen were mercenaries in the Czar's army. Some of them rose quite high in the ranks. Last Edited by Deplorable CatRWall on 01/08/2018 12:09 PM |
Deplorable Azila_Again
(OP) User ID: 75557433 United States 01/08/2018 12:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Was always told I was German with some Irish. Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again I'm not German at all. Predominantly Scandinavian, with Irish/Scottish as the second most prominent. No American Indian either, as I was also told. Big shocker for me. Anyone else do this? Found I'm related to a friend from work who is about 96% ashkenazi. Related on one of her few non-ashkenazi genes. Her ancestors are from Russia, mine from Ireland. I'm thinking how did that come about? Well! Did a little sleuthing and bingo! Turns out a lot of Irishmen were mercenaries in the Czar's army. Some of them rose quite high in the ranks. I think that's pretty cool The real question is, do you even doodle Bro? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76025269 United States 01/08/2018 12:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A link for Lady Jane if you haven't already seen, I'm sure you have done some native research since your test? This link talks about how one child may inherit a native ancestry gene and a sibling/s of that same child may not..anyway, thought it might help Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76025269 [link to www.rootsandrecombinantdna.com] If I read that correctly, it says American Indian will sometimes present itself as Asian? Some of them, yes, that is how I read it too That article/blog is really insightful I supposedly had American Indian, my test showed none but, a small Asian percentage. Hmmmm.....interesting Did you get the squinty eyes? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76025269 United States 01/08/2018 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A link for Lady Jane if you haven't already seen, I'm sure you have done some native research since your test? This link talks about how one child may inherit a native ancestry gene and a sibling/s of that same child may not..anyway, thought it might help Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76025269 [link to www.rootsandrecombinantdna.com] If I read that correctly, it says American Indian will sometimes present itself as Asian? Some of them, yes, that is how I read it too That article/blog is really insightful I supposedly had American Indian, my test showed none but, a small Asian percentage. Hmmmm.....interesting You might be interested in this particular group for more native testing [link to www.accu-metrics.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76025269 United States 01/08/2018 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again If I read that correctly, it says American Indian will sometimes present itself as Asian? Some of them, yes, that is how I read it too That article/blog is really insightful I supposedly had American Indian, my test showed none but, a small Asian percentage. Hmmmm.....interesting You might be interested in this particular group for more native testing [link to www.accu-metrics.com] But don't believe it when it says the results can be used for membership etc.. Because that is false, it is solely up to the tribe to make that decision and some are cut off from adding any more members.. Etc |
Deplorable CatRWall
Deplorable CatRWall User ID: 70071324 United States 01/08/2018 12:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have a strange case that I haven't read about here./ Quoting: Adams684 Stepdaughter did it. They sent her some woman's name as a sister. It's impossible the woman is 70 both parents now are 62. Child is 38. Did it twice. Same result. ????? Got any ideas? Coz I'm stumped. Needless to say, the kid got a little hyper about it Siblings share, on average, 50% of their DNA. But there are other ways to get to 50%. Did the 62-year-old parents also have it done? She might want to know if she has any relation to them at all. Maybe she's adopted. A parent and a child also share 50%. The woman could be her mother. If incest is in the picture that tilts all the percentages upward. You share 25% with a grandparent usually, but if one of your grandparents is also your parent due to incest, then you'll share more than 25% with that person. The woman *could* be a sister but the span from 70 to 38 is 32 years which is a pretty long reproductive span for the average female. If you had your first child at the ridiculously young age of 14, then add 32 years you're up to 46 which is nearly impossible to get pregnant. So I doubt the sister explanation. Leaning toward mother or incest. Sorry. |
Deplorable CatRWall
Deplorable CatRWall User ID: 70071324 United States 01/08/2018 12:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have a strange case that I haven't read about here./ Quoting: Adams684 Stepdaughter did it. They sent her some woman's name as a sister. It's impossible the woman is 70 both parents now are 62. Child is 38. Did it twice. Same result. ????? Got any ideas? Coz I'm stumped. Needless to say, the kid got a little hyper about it Siblings share, on average, 50% of their DNA. But there are other ways to get to 50%. Did the 62-year-old parents also have it done? She might want to know if she has any relation to them at all. Maybe she's adopted. A parent and a child also share 50%. The woman could be her mother. If incest is in the picture that tilts all the percentages upward. You share 25% with a grandparent usually, but if one of your grandparents is also your parent due to incest, then you'll share more than 25% with that person. The woman *could* be a sister but the span from 70 to 38 is 32 years which is a pretty long reproductive span for the average female. If you had your first child at the ridiculously young age of 14, then add 32 years you're up to 46 which is nearly impossible to get pregnant. So I doubt the sister explanation. Leaning toward mother or incest. Sorry. Wait, you said it's your step-daughter? That means you are married to one of the 62-year-old parents. I'd have a talk with your spouse. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76025269 United States 01/08/2018 12:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That article/blog is really insightful I supposedly had American Indian, my test showed none but, a small Asian percentage. Hmmmm.....interesting You might be interested in this particular group for more native testing [link to www.accu-metrics.com] But don't believe it when it says the results can be used for membership etc.. Because that is false, it is solely up to the tribe to make that decision and some are cut off from adding any more members.. Etc I would like to see Lady Jane take that test and see if her percentage Iberian shows up as native markers just as mine, it might tell us something pending on what it shows up. |
Deplorable CatRWall
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Deplorable Azila_Again
(OP) User ID: 75557433 United States 01/08/2018 12:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have a strange case that I haven't read about here./ Quoting: Adams684 Stepdaughter did it. They sent her some woman's name as a sister. It's impossible the woman is 70 both parents now are 62. Child is 38. Did it twice. Same result. ????? Got any ideas? Coz I'm stumped. Needless to say, the kid got a little hyper about it Siblings share, on average, 50% of their DNA. But there are other ways to get to 50%. Did the 62-year-old parents also have it done? She might want to know if she has any relation to them at all. Maybe she's adopted. A parent and a child also share 50%. The woman could be her mother. If incest is in the picture that tilts all the percentages upward. You share 25% with a grandparent usually, but if one of your grandparents is also your parent due to incest, then you'll share more than 25% with that person. The woman *could* be a sister but the span from 70 to 38 is 32 years which is a pretty long reproductive span for the average female. If you had your first child at the ridiculously young age of 14, then add 32 years you're up to 46 which is nearly impossible to get pregnant. So I doubt the sister explanation. Leaning toward mother or incest. Sorry. Wait, you said it's your step-daughter? That means you are married to one of the 62-year-old parents. I'd have a talk with your spouse. Oh boy, the story thickens......... The real question is, do you even doodle Bro? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76025269 United States 01/08/2018 01:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op, here is some more info and it mentions too some Asian. [link to www.accessgenealogy.com (secure)] |
Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 01/08/2018 01:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A link for Lady Jane if you haven't already seen, I'm sure you have done some native research since your test? This link talks about how one child may inherit a native ancestry gene and a sibling/s of that same child may not..anyway, thought it might help Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76025269 [link to www.rootsandrecombinantdna.com] Thank you, that is interesting. I am going to tell one of my half sisters(Dad's daughter with stepmom) soon, and ask her to do the test as well. I am hoping that the Native American we are supposed to have is a family legend. If she ends up with no Native American as well, then we will know. I trust this sister to say nothing to Dad. He is too ill, and does not need this, on top of all the other crap my mother has done to him. I can feel how torn up you seem to be, but even if that sibling does not test with it, there is still a chance that it's just washed out. Does your father have siblings still alive you could test? Only one, and she's a total nut job. Cancer has taken all the others before age 50. My Dad is the last hold out. I am almost positive she will do the test. She will also say nothing, as she does not want to tear up the family either. I will come clean when there is a will to be read (hopefully many years from now) and refuse my portion of the inheritance, my portion to be divided evenly among my siblings. I will ask for a small personal keepsake to remember Daddy. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Lady Jane Smith
Forum Administrator 01/08/2018 01:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75708546 Neanderthals were around longer. That DNA shows up so African should show up in everybody's but it doesn't. Ask yourself why not? That goes back too far in time for genome testing to pick it up. Go back that far and we're all related which is not what genome testing is looking for. It's looking for differences. My husband's came back with a minute trace of African DNA from over 200,000 years ago. Me? None. They can determine it was from over 200,000 years ago? How did he take the news? He laughed, and suspects it was just tossed in there to support out of Africa theory. I do not know how they detemined it, all his other make-up is far more recent. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A |
Deplorable CatRWall
Deplorable CatRWall User ID: 70071324 United States 01/08/2018 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Have a strange case that I haven't read about here./ Quoting: Adams684 Stepdaughter did it. They sent her some woman's name as a sister. It's impossible the woman is 70 both parents now are 62. Child is 38. Did it twice. Same result. ????? Got any ideas? Coz I'm stumped. Needless to say, the kid got a little hyper about it Siblings share, on average, 50% of their DNA. But there are other ways to get to 50%. Did the 62-year-old parents also have it done? She might want to know if she has any relation to them at all. Maybe she's adopted. A parent and a child also share 50%. The woman could be her mother. If incest is in the picture that tilts all the percentages upward. You share 25% with a grandparent usually, but if one of your grandparents is also your parent due to incest, then you'll share more than 25% with that person. The woman *could* be a sister but the span from 70 to 38 is 32 years which is a pretty long reproductive span for the average female. If you had your first child at the ridiculously young age of 14, then add 32 years you're up to 46 which is nearly impossible to get pregnant. So I doubt the sister explanation. Leaning toward mother or incest. Sorry. Wait, you said it's your step-daughter? That means you are married to one of the 62-year-old parents. I'd have a talk with your spouse. Oh boy, the story thickens......... Lots of "thick" stories in the DNA testing world. :) I've got at least three: 1 - 2nd cousin at 23andme contacts me. She is the out-of-wedlock daughter of the sister of a "legitimate" 2nd cousin in my list. She wants to be part of the family, but other 2nd-cousin tells me how awful she is and I shouldn't correspond with her. 2 - Another second cousin, this time a male. I contact him and he gives me a long story about how his mother was adopted from an unwed mother place in Louisiana in 1922 and he doesn't know who his grandmother (the young gal who went to the home) is. I suspect our common ancestor is my philandering grandfather or one of his philandering brothers. I say "let's share genomes" but he declines saying he's not computer savvy and cant' figure out how to do it. That doesn't pass the sniff test so I contact a male first cousin on the same side of the family who also has this guy in his list. Guy immediately shares genomes with my male first cousin. WTF? 3 - I'm contacted by a male 4th cousin with whom I share one very long segment on Chromosome 3. Turns out a whole lot of people share that one segment, and nothing else. This guy and I are both genealogists with family trees at ancestry.com, relatives who do it too, the works. We've now spent 3 years sharing hypotheses and tracking down leads but still have no clue who our common ancestor might be. He thinks it was in England but I say that's too far back. I'm pretty sure it was Columbia TN during the Civil War and some traveling guy, maybe a union soldier, passed through town spreading his DNA around like Johnny Appleseed. Last Edited by Deplorable CatRWall on 01/08/2018 01:22 PM |
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Deplorable Azila_Again
(OP) User ID: 75557433 United States 01/08/2018 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Deplorable CatRWall Siblings share, on average, 50% of their DNA. But there are other ways to get to 50%. Did the 62-year-old parents also have it done? She might want to know if she has any relation to them at all. Maybe she's adopted. A parent and a child also share 50%. The woman could be her mother. If incest is in the picture that tilts all the percentages upward. You share 25% with a grandparent usually, but if one of your grandparents is also your parent due to incest, then you'll share more than 25% with that person. The woman *could* be a sister but the span from 70 to 38 is 32 years which is a pretty long reproductive span for the average female. If you had your first child at the ridiculously young age of 14, then add 32 years you're up to 46 which is nearly impossible to get pregnant. So I doubt the sister explanation. Leaning toward mother or incest. Sorry. Wait, you said it's your step-daughter? That means you are married to one of the 62-year-old parents. I'd have a talk with your spouse. Oh boy, the story thickens......... Lots of "thick" stories in the DNA testing world. :) I've got at least three: 1 - 2nd cousin at 23andme contacts me. She is the out-of-wedlock daughter of the sister of a "legitimate" 2nd cousin in my list. She wants to be part of the family, but other 2nd-cousin tells me how awful she is and I shouldn't correspond with her. 2 - Another second cousin, this time a male. I contact him and he gives me a long story about how his mother was adopted from an unwed mother place in Louisiana in 1922 and he doesn't know who his grandmother (the young gal who went to the home) is. I suspect our common ancestor is my philandering grandfather or one of his philandering brothers. I say "let's share genomes" but he declines saying he's not computer savvy and cant' figure out how to do it. That doesn't pass the sniff test so I contact a male first cousin on the same side of the family who also has this guy in his list. Guy immediately shares genomes with my male first cousin. WTF? 3 - I'm contacted by a male 4th cousin with whom I share one very long segment on Chromosome 3. Turns out a whole lot of people share that one segment, and nothing else. This guy and I are both genealogists with family trees at ancestry.com, relatives who do it too, the works. We've now spent 3 years sharing hypotheses and tracking down leads but still have no clue who our common ancestor might be. He thinks it was in England but I say that's too far back. I'm pretty sure it was Columbia TN during the Civil War and some traveling guy, maybe a union soldier, passed through town spreading his DNA around like Johnny Appleseed. Just WOW.......... The real question is, do you even doodle Bro? |
Deplorable Azila_Again
(OP) User ID: 75557433 United States 01/08/2018 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op, here is some more info and it mentions too some Asian. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76025269 [link to www.accessgenealogy.com (secure)] Thank you so much The real question is, do you even doodle Bro? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76025269 United States 01/08/2018 02:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op, here is some more info and it mentions too some Asian. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76025269 [link to www.accessgenealogy.com (secure)] Thank you so much Hey, be aware from my own experience that energy forces arrive while researching native stuff. That has been my past experience, sometimes it can be overwhelming, and too some unexplainable things, like stuff just out of the blue, coming in fast. Everybody is different, but if you are an intuitive, And a feeler of energies, you might experience some or have in the past while maybe researching? |
Deplorable Azila_Again
(OP) User ID: 75557433 United States 01/08/2018 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op, here is some more info and it mentions too some Asian. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76025269 [link to www.accessgenealogy.com (secure)] Thank you so much Hey, be aware from my own experience that energy forces arrive while researching native stuff. That has been my past experience, sometimes it can be overwhelming, and too some unexplainable things, like stuff just out of the blue, coming in fast. Everybody is different, but if you are an intuitive, And a feeler of energies, you might experience some or have in the past while maybe researching? Wow, wish you had an account so we could discuss it further. If you ever do get an account, don't hesitate to PM me. The real question is, do you even doodle Bro? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76025269 United States 01/08/2018 02:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Op, here is some more info and it mentions too some Asian. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76025269 [link to www.accessgenealogy.com (secure)] Thank you so much Hey, be aware from my own experience that energy forces arrive while researching native stuff. That has been my past experience, sometimes it can be overwhelming, and too some unexplainable things, like stuff just out of the blue, coming in fast. Everybody is different, but if you are an intuitive, And a feeler of energies, you might experience some or have in the past while maybe researching? Wow, wish you had an account so we could discuss it further. If you ever do get an account, don't hesitate to PM me. They don't like me speaking much here, I'm not aloud an account. I wish I was, it would make things easier. But I feel ya, just be care filled. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76025269 United States 01/08/2018 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I tracked some of my ancestors to Watts, which there are many discrepancies but if my line is true then the native family has the man that wrote the Cherokee language. Sequoya and Little Tasle and some others. But I'm not in the mind frame to dig back in that part of it. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76025269 United States 01/08/2018 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Henry Watts came from England to Virginia, isle of wight , then 3 generations of John Watts, that's why all the messed up dates because of the same names and they didn't use Sr or Jr, some had both city families, and native families. The actual dates I come up are off 50 by the public dated things I find, but that could be explained by mixing up an elder John with a younger John , they say in research like that allow 25 year generations and you can get pretty close. But I would need to do some extensive traveling and digging up records and a lot of energy physically which I just don't have right now to delve into it. |
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