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Anybody take a genetic DNA test and shocked by the results?

 
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Was always told I was German with some Irish.

I'm not German at all. Predominantly Scandinavian, with Irish/Scottish as the second most prominent.

No American Indian either, as I was also told.

Big shocker for me.

Anyone else do this?

1dunno1
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Scandinavians are mainly Germans who moved north.
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Well, mine came back consistent with my father's ancestry (almost entire Dutch back 10 generations, so it showed West/Northern European ) but does not match my mother's ancestry back 10 generations - all of her ancestors came from Ireland (with one from Wales who moved to Ireland and married) beginning in the early 1600's. None of that showed on my DNA report, only "Scandinavian."

I also had 7% Balkan (?) and - here you go, doubters - 1% Nigerian. Have a feeling that one got tossed in for flavor by whoever made the report.

Having traced my ancestry and the locations of birth of all my ancestors back to the 1500's, I am really half Dutch (father) and half Irish (mother), for all practical purposes.
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Maybe, the test is confusing irish with Scandinavian. Same thing happened to me. 17% Scandinavian and no Irish, when I'm sure I have a Irish great grandfather and no scandinavian ancestor that I'm aware off.

I don't have the slightest idea where my 15% native north american is coming from either.
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Re: Anybody take a genetic DNA test and shocked by the results?
Was always told I was German with some Irish.

I'm not German at all. Predominantly Scandinavian, with Irish/Scottish as the second most prominent.

No American Indian either, as I was also told.

Big shocker for me.

Anyone else do this?

1dunno1
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Send your money to me.

I will tell you whatever the statistical probability algorithms say, or maybe I'll make something up?

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Re: Anybody take a genetic DNA test and shocked by the results?
Was always told I was German with some Irish.

I'm not German at all. Predominantly Scandinavian, with Irish/Scottish as the second most prominent.

No American Indian either, as I was also told.

Big shocker for me.

Anyone else do this?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again


You sound like the guy in the commercial who traded in his lederhosen for a kilt. :)

I was sure I was 99% British Isles and figured if there was anything else it would be Jewish. But nope.

I'm only about 60% British Isles and the rest southern and northern european. There's 0.1% North African and an Iraqi fellow contacted me to say we're distant cousins. Wild. And zero Jewish.

Send your genome text file to www.gedmatch.com and they will predict your eye color (they nailed mine which are really complex), tell you if you're more hunter-gatherer or farmer, and other fun things. You can also contact relatives there like on 23andme and ancestry.

Send it to www.promethease.com for much more detailed health info than you can get at 23andme.

Also learned there's a lot more philandery back in the old days than previously supposed. Lots of relatives are adopted or their parents or grandparents were adopted from homes for unwed mothers back in the day. Also a lot of NPE's (non-parental events) making it very hard to nail relationships. My theory is the Civil War tore apart southern society and ... well basically if you had goodbye sex with little Johnny and he never came home, you married whomever you could find when it was all over and your child got that guy's name.

Plus Northern soldiers raping and pillaging. Plus dislocation and population movement with men traveling through a town then moving on. It's a mess, genealogically speaking.

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Re: Anybody take a genetic DNA test and shocked by the results?
i've recently read that these tests were bogus. look it up about them adding in african %s just to mess with you...
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Seeing as the first human lived in Africa.......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25378790


So why do so many people have zero% sub saharan african or black genetics?
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Because those folks aren't getting their DNA tested at 23andme? Just a guess.
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Re: Anybody take a genetic DNA test and shocked by the results?
Both my parents and I took this test. We are all white but me and my mom have some Arab in us, which shocked us.
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Crazy, right?
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again


The only reason this was set was to collect your Dna and store all your details, for big brother,

And send you anything to keep you happy ,

Wake up ,
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seriously this
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Re: Anybody take a genetic DNA test and shocked by the results?
i've recently read that these tests were bogus. look it up about them adding in african %s just to mess with you...
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Seeing as the first human lived in Africa.......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25378790


Neanderthals were around longer. That DNA shows up so African should show up in everybody's but it doesn't. Ask yourself why not?
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That goes back too far in time for genome testing to pick it up. Go back that far and we're all related which is not what genome testing is looking for. It's looking for differences.
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Seeing as the first human lived in Africa.......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25378790


So why do so many people have zero% sub saharan african or black genetics?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75766448


Mine has zero African, but I read it only goes back 6 or so, generations.
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again


Then why does neanderthal still show up? They haven't been around for at least 12,000 years +.
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Here's my thought: What neanderthals contributed, not everyone has. So if you *do* have it, it makes you different from people who don't have it. What Africans contributed, we all have. So there's no difference there to be found. It's all just statistics (clustering mostly), not omniscience.

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Re: Anybody take a genetic DNA test and shocked by the results?
I have a note of caution or maybe paranoia.

What if they hope people will give up genetic info under this seemingly innocuous premise of ancestry interest, but really you are going into a database for suitable organs for the elite. The list of missing people is quite long. Think about this!
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It appears I am likely to only match up with an alien, so I feel pretty safe.
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Not only that, the real reason is to track down where any purebred Adamic white people may be hiding in their world populations of serpent bloodlined mixed race white nations. Jacob's bloodline is the bullseye of the target.
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Re: Anybody take a genetic DNA test and shocked by the results?
Giving away your DNA, I like it, they have top shelf security.
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Re: Anybody take a genetic DNA test and shocked by the results?
I read that an African-American employee at one of the DNA companies was purposely reporting that white customers had African DNA when it wasn't true.
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Mine came back 0% African.
fuckyeah
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


Perhaps you were tested by a company with honest employees! I never did find out what company it was.
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Re: Anybody take a genetic DNA test and shocked by the results?
I read that an African-American employee at one of the DNA companies was purposely reporting that white customers had African DNA when it wasn't true.
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Mine came back 0% African.
fuckyeah
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Perhaps you were tested by a company with honest employees! I never did find out what company it was.
 Quoting: nutmeg

AncestryDNA is who I used.
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Re: Anybody take a genetic DNA test and shocked by the results?
Seriously.. not only are you volunteering your dna for their database, but you are paying for it

you think this will stay private?

do you not understand the implications of this?

so madman takes over the world .. gotta reduce the population .. says that all people with ? gene cause problems, have bad health, etc., etc. ... boom, all people with that gene will be targeted AND THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE NOW

you have a gene that might develop into a disease .. boom, your dna records are available for purchase .. think employers, health care providers

what are you thinking? did you not watch Gattaca?


.. this is a conspiracy website after all..
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DNA ancestry tests branded 'meaningless'

Commercial DNA tests that claim to tell people whether they are related to Richard III or descended from the Vikings are no more than "genetic astrology", scientists have warned.

Customers are being charged up to £300 to learn whether they have links to famous people or societies despite the fact many of the tests are not backed up by scientific evidence, experts said.

The amount of DNA any individual inherits from relatives just a few steps up their family tree is negligible compared with the vast amount we all share from common ancestors.

It means any ancestral "history" identified by a simple genetic test is just one of dozens of possible interpretations, and to try to trace our lineage directly through our genes is "absurd"

[link to www.telegraph.co.uk]
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That's true because how it really works is that they do clustering or principal components analysis with your dataset against all the other datasets IN THEIR OWN DATABASE. There is no fixed genetic marker for geographic location. It's just how you compare with all the other people who spat into 23andme's test tube. Still, I find it interesting.
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I read that an African-American employee at one of the DNA companies was purposely reporting that white customers had African DNA when it wasn't true.
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Mine came back 0% African.

 Quoting: LoneStarRising


Perhaps you were tested by a company with honest employees! I never did find out what company it was.
 Quoting: nutmeg

AncestryDNA is who I used.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


Thanks!

I just looked to see if I could find it...googled:

"Claim: DNA testing companies admitted to tampering with results in order to agitate racist customers."

Snopes says: "Mostly False.:

I didn't read the long explanation.

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You're not supposed to do shit like this. Tptb are looking for indigo children and certain blood types like RH- negatives! They hunt them down and kill them.

You honestly think that stays secret? No!
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Fucking this, you fucktard!!!!!!!!
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Re: Anybody take a genetic DNA test and shocked by the results?
Yes.

4% Neanderthal derived (in 98th percentile). 1.1% cannot be identified, AND 0% African -- so much for the out of Africa theory.

Also, found out my Dad is probably not my father. I do not want to discuss that part further. Just found out about a week ago. Yeah, I'm pissed.
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Ooh that sucks about your dad. Cool about neanderthal though! I'm 3.3% which is somewhere above 90th percentile I think. You're in the stratosphere. My theory is that neanderthals are the source of europeans' technology gene. That desire to modify the immediate environment to make it better. I believe neanderthals were right-brained intuitive tinkerers and probably low-verbal introverts to boot. They were masters of their environment.

The modern humans who swept out of African were high verbal, extraverts, and good at making (and probably breaking) alliances. That's how they out-competed poor neanderthal. But neanderthal has had his revenge now that technology is an advantage.
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Mine came back 0% African.

 Quoting: LoneStarRising


Perhaps you were tested by a company with honest employees! I never did find out what company it was.
 Quoting: nutmeg

AncestryDNA is who I used.
 Quoting: LoneStarRising


Thanks!

I just looked to see if I could find it...googled:

"Claim: DNA testing companies admitted to tampering with results in order to agitate racist customers."

Snopes says: "Mostly False.:

I didn't read the long explanation.
 Quoting: nutmeg


I'm blonde, blue eyed. Zero African in mine. Although mother shows 1%.
The real question is, do you even doodle Bro?
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Re: Anybody take a genetic DNA test and shocked by the results?
Seriously.. not only are you volunteering your dna for their database, but you are paying for it

you think this will stay private?

do you not understand the implications of this?

so madman takes over the world .. gotta reduce the population .. says that all people with ? gene cause problems, have bad health, etc., etc. ... boom, all people with that gene will be targeted AND THEY KNOW WHO YOU ARE NOW

you have a gene that might develop into a disease .. boom, your dna records are available for purchase .. think employers, health care providers

what are you thinking? did you not watch Gattaca?


.. this is a conspiracy website after all..
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How about this? Rich fuck needs a new heart, liver, etc, and you're a perfect match .. you disappear
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Re: Anybody take a genetic DNA test and shocked by the results?
i've recently read that these tests were bogus. look it up about them adding in african %s just to mess with you...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73069577


Seeing as the first human lived in Africa.......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25378790


So why do so many people have zero% sub saharan african or black genetics?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75766448


Mine has zero African, but I read it only goes back 6 or so, generations.
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again


You do if you had sex with one
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Re: Anybody take a genetic DNA test and shocked by the results?
For Adopted people who are still mostly denied their real
History ...these tests can be most helpful indeed.

I know several
Adoptees who were able to find biological relatives.

My adopted sister found her biological mother after plus 40 years. Biological mother did not want to name father.

Adopted sister and her son had already done Ancestry DNA test and the biological father matched as a close relative to her son but did not match her.

If you are adopted female trying to find biological relatives if possible use your sons DNA / do two tests/ your and his as the male side of your DNA will only show up and match to another male.

Adopted ppl think these DNA tests are the best thing ever.
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I agree with you about adopted people. But you have a factual error when you say "If you are adopted female trying to find biological relatives if possible use your sons DNA / do two tests/ your and his as the male side of your DNA will only show up and match to another male."


That's not true. A woman cannot pass on anything about her male ancestry to a male child because she has no Y chromosome to give him. She gives him an X. Her male child inherits his Y ancestry through the woman's partner, his father.
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Look, thats a bunch of hogwash. They can barely tell you your race with it, but the DNA markers are very limited.

To make these exact distiinctions within Europe is just not reliable.
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You, yourself said its a relatively new science. Wtf do you want here? Seriously?
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again


I am trying to keep this lady from relying on a bullshit test that could destroy her family relations.

Are you even keeping up.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76089793


They have been destroyed for 3 decades. No, I am not telling Dad anything, he has cancer -- a gene I do not have -- and I have zero intention of doing anything that could hurt or upset him. I haven't spoken to narcissist mom in 10 years.
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If your dad went so far as to spit into a test tube for the DNA test, then isn't he curious about the results?
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There was more Scan - (Finish/Russian) than I expected but my grandmother was adopted. I thought there would be Native American genetics based on some physical features but I think its actually Sami characteristics. There is a touch of Asian probably from the Mongol Warrior Days.

A very small, tiny percentage from Malta.
I am about to do it again, the test is sitting on my desk.
I want to see if it remains somewhat the same or some new information rolls in.
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Mine broke down Scandinavia into a different category than Finnish/Russian. Finnish/Russian only shows me as 1%.
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again


Mine shows the three above as well - and German/French - my "British Isles" was lumped - and that tiny bit of Malta.

Unfortunately there is no male living relative to get the Y chromosome information and that is where suspect there may be Native American genetics lurking.
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Was always told I was German with some Irish.

I'm not German at all. Predominantly Scandinavian, with Irish/Scottish as the second most prominent.

No American Indian either, as I was also told.

Big shocker for me.

Anyone else do this?

1dunno1
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again


No such thing as a American Indian unless you have relatives who migrated from India to the USA and birthed your parents or grandparents in your family leanage.

I don't need a DNA test to show me where my heritage is from. Got copies of birth certificates of grandfathers from Ireland and 2 grandmothers who one of them was full blown Apache and the other full blown Cherokee.
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i've recently read that these tests were bogus. look it up about them adding in african %s just to mess with you...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73069577


Seeing as the first human lived in Africa.......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25378790


i've recently read that these tests were bogus. look it up about them adding in african %s just to mess with you...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73069577


Seeing as the first human lived in Africa.......
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25378790


I guess you haven't read up on the new findings ! It ain't in Africa , mate !
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Mine came in just as expected-Scandinavian..

The freaky part is I'm not related to anybody.

I even had a genealogist go through my results, trying to find any matches. Zero!

Figures, my Norwegian and Swedish relatives are to lazy to do a DNA test, I guess?.
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Both my parents and I took this test. We are all white but me and my mom have some Arab in us, which shocked us.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76004857


Crazy, right?
 Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again


The only reason this was set was to collect your Dna and store all your details, for big brother,

And send you anything to keep you happy ,

Wake up ,
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seriously this
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and the govt got you fools to pay for it too
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I've done ancestry and 23, the results are the same basically, one more specific in one area the other more specific in the other. I did my family tree many years ago, so I knew who I was and the tests confirmed that. The very first rule of genealogy is don't believe what grandma and dad said about your ancestors, they are NEVER right. I also put my raw results on gedmatch, which give you your admixture (which is your ancient strands of DNA) that is really cool because you get to see where you match with the ancient bones (clovis, denisova and many others) they have discovered and what percentage you share with that person (and of course even us northern Europeans begin in Africa) My tests have allowed me to trace my Scandinavian (Swedish) through the kings of Sweden to the king of Turkey to Seleucus I Nictor 300bc...my admixture shows all of this but I had no idea, this is just one line of the tree and there are many lines, kings, chaucer, Charlemagne, Monet . Genealogy is fun and exciting the dna test is just the beginning. We are all royal, we are all the same
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And yes, if you're a female, you have to have your brother take the test because if you don't, you'll only end up with your mother's genes being read. If your father is deceased and you don't have a brother, you're out of luck.
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Not true. Any male cousin who is the son of my father's brothers will be carrying the same Y chromosome that a brother would've carried. For example I have no brothers and my dad has passed, but he had two brothers one of whom had three sons. Those three sons all carry the same Y chromosome my brother would be carrying.

Men have only one Y chromosome to give a child (unlike the X chromosome which is complicated because mom carries two and dad carries one, and also because meiosis isn't straightforward with X chromosomes).

Because men have only one Y to give, men can trace their ancestry back a long ways in the male line (assuming no "non-parental events").
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Yes.

4% Neanderthal derived (in 98th percentile). 1.1% cannot be identified, AND 0% African -- so much for the out of Africa theory.

Also, found out my Dad is probably not my father. I do not want to discuss that part further. Just found out about a week ago. Yeah, I'm pissed.
 Quoting: Lady Jane Smith


Wow, that - well I am sorry. Take some time with this.





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