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This is a modified post from my other thread. Thread: Let your food be your medicine

I hope turning it into its own thread helps someone.

Randomly, I developed a clot in November (deep vein thrombosis - technical name) in my leg. According to the ER doctor and the Vascular Surgeon, they have no freaking idea why they happen. Yay, modern medicine.

Doctors do know long periods of sitting or standing, travel in planes (hey, sitting!) can play a part. They know that wearing compression socks during times when you aren't moving a lot help prevent them.

Other things that help prevent them are exercise and taking breaks from sitting or standing every 20 minutes. These breaks are not always practical. When driving 4 hours (or more), are you going to pull over ever 20 minutes to walk for 5? Probably not.

Compression socks help protect against blood clots. During sedentary periods, the pressure from the sock helps keep the blood in the leg moving. These days, it is possible to purchase ones that look like regular socks for men and women, so they aren't the fashion faux pas that they used to be.

Clots do not always hurt. Mine definitely does. Wearing heavy-duty compression socks (with more pressure than required for normal daily wear for prevention) helps me be able to hobble about for short periods of time, two months after the clot developed.

Clots can also the cause of pulmonary embolisms. This can be deadly. My father had a large clot that he didn't know about (because the clot didn't cause pain) until a part broke off and went to his lung. He couldn't breathe and luckily made it to the ER in time. He could have died.

Anyone who sits or stands for long periods of time can potentially save themselves a lot of pain and possibly their life by wearing these. Truck drivers, yes. People who fly a lot, yes. People who work either in front of a computer all day or stand in an assembly line type job, yes.

They aren't expensive and some of them just look like socks. It could save your life.

For the no-linky-you-stinky types: [link to www.webmd.com (secure)]

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Heading off to work.

Let me know your thoughts/experiences with these beasts. I always thought of them as being for old folks. At the vascular surgeon's office, I was the youngest by 3 decades, at least.

The nurse at the vascular surgeon's office showed me her compression socks and said the entire office wears them. I appreciate people who practice what they preach.
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Getting up at least once every 30 minutes drastically cuts your risk of developing diabetes, according to a pathologist I worked with for a while. He routinely had us all stand up after every case we did. I guess if he was that dedicated, it's probably true, but I'm not certain. But it definitely decreases risk of DVT.
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There are a few things that actual meds work wonders on.
The burning that comes with a DVT is what drove me to get the one I had suffered from looked at.
Xarelto, I believe small doses at first for a couple weeks, then upped the dose.
Not a drug you want to OD on. The risks associated with anticoagulants are f'd up.
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I got this shit from bad dental work.. You can feel it moving foreign material around your body.

I bet deep vein thrombosis didn't exist before western medicine filled everyone's bodies with playdough.
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I got this shit from bad dental work.. You can feel it moving foreign material around your body.

I bet deep vein thrombosis didn't exist before western medicine filled everyone's bodies with playdough.
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Hmmm. Interesting hypothesis. Difficult to prove, since they are identified by ultrasound (before death) or autopsy (after, obviously...).
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Heading off to work.

Let me know your thoughts/experiences with these beasts. I always thought of them as being for old folks. At the vascular surgeon's office, I was the youngest by 3 decades, at least.

The nurse at the vascular surgeon's office showed me her compression socks and said the entire office wears them. I appreciate people who practice what they preach.
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Why no asprin ?
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This is a modified post from my other thread. Thread: Let your food be your medicine

I hope turning it into its own thread helps someone.

Randomly, I developed a clot in November (deep vein thrombosis - technical name) in my leg. According to the ER doctor and the Vascular Surgeon, they have no freaking idea why they happen. Yay, modern medicine.

Doctors do know long periods of sitting or standing, travel in planes (hey, sitting!) can play a part. They know that wearing compression socks during times when you aren't moving a lot help prevent them.

Other things that help prevent them are exercise and taking breaks from sitting or standing every 20 minutes. These breaks are not always practical. When driving 4 hours (or more), are you going to pull over ever 20 minutes to walk for 5? Probably not.

Compression socks help protect against blood clots. During sedentary periods, the pressure from the sock helps keep the blood in the leg moving. These days, it is possible to purchase ones that look like regular socks for men and women, so they aren't the fashion faux pas that they used to be.

Clots do not always hurt. Mine definitely does. Wearing heavy-duty compression socks (with more pressure than required for normal daily wear for prevention) helps me be able to hobble about for short periods of time, two months after the clot developed.

Clots can also the cause of pulmonary embolisms. This can be deadly. My father had a large clot that he didn't know about (because the clot didn't cause pain) until a part broke off and went to his lung. He couldn't breathe and luckily made it to the ER in time. He could have died.

Anyone who sits or stands for long periods of time can potentially save themselves a lot of pain and possibly their life by wearing these. Truck drivers, yes. People who fly a lot, yes. People who work either in front of a computer all day or stand in an assembly line type job, yes.

They aren't expensive and some of them just look like socks. It could save your life.

For the no-linky-you-stinky types: [link to www.webmd.com (secure)]
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My mom died of DVT, that traveled from the femoral artery into her lungs while sleeping.


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I had a pulmonary embolism in 2008. I spent a while in CICU.

I had 2 male nurses that made the hospital stay a bit more enjoyable. wink
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Just eat lots of raw garlic, which is a blood thinner.
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Heading off to work.

Let me know your thoughts/experiences with these beasts. I always thought of them as being for old folks. At the vascular surgeon's office, I was the youngest by 3 decades, at least.

The nurse at the vascular surgeon's office showed me her compression socks and said the entire office wears them. I appreciate people who practice what they preach.
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Why no asprin ?
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I'm on blood thinners, too. Xarelto. It does nothing for pain. That's what the compression socks are for. I know there are natural blood thinners, but mine was big. Really big. I want it gone ASAP.

Diet wise, I'm trying to get into autophagy routinely.
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I had a pulmonary embolism in 2008. I spent a while in CICU.

I had 2 male nurses that made the hospital stay a bit more enjoyable. wink
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Heading off to work.

Let me know your thoughts/experiences with these beasts. I always thought of them as being for old folks. At the vascular surgeon's office, I was the youngest by 3 decades, at least.

The nurse at the vascular surgeon's office showed me her compression socks and said the entire office wears them. I appreciate people who practice what they preach.
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Why no asprin ?
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aspirin should be the first line of defense.
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I had multiple clots travel to one lung. Honestly felt like I was dying. I was 49. On Xarelto for life now.
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aspirin should be the first line of defense.
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Had I any clue this would happen to me I would have taken meadowsweet or garlic or ginger or cinnamon routinely. I take these sometimes but not as a constant.

And you are correct, it would have helped prevent it. I just didn't think it was a danger. I actually thought I had an infection for the first few days.

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I had multiple clots travel to one lung. Honestly felt like I was dying. I was 49. On Xarelto for life now.
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Oh, no! That must have been scary! I am glad you survived. Did you know you had the clots before they got to your lungs?

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I have one clot in my heart vein, since 40 years.
Never hurts, but when I do exercise my arm and hand swell.
I can see the vein then through the skin ...

Any idea how to unclt this?
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Pretty certain they're caused by ingesting animal FAT or hydrogenated fat (Crisco)
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Excellent post. Blood defies gravity by traveling back up your legs in the veins. It does this via the mechanism of muscle contractions experienced when moving about, walking etc. Even standing in one spot can aggravate clotting, which is why teachers and others standing idly during jobs develop varicose veins. Those are clogged veins. The varicose veins are the body trying to route around the clog.

Airplanes cars whatever makes you not move for extended periods is bad for the system as a whole. Then you DO move and all that slowed down clotted blood releases all at once. Not good.

Aspirin is good, its not a blood thinner, it simply makes your platelets more slippery. Blood thinners act upon the enzymes in your liver that cause blood to clot. Just be warned that not all thinners are the same, and your daily vitamin K intake can have an effect on the thinners. Or not. Depends.

Some thinners are reversible in case you get in an accident or cut yourself. People have bled out that way. Some are not reversible. Thats all worst case stuff. They have altered the way these medications work, some of the more modern ones lime xarelto may not need monitoring at all. Old stuff like warfarin do need constant monitoring.

Blood thinners are no joke. Do your homework.
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Pretty certain they're caused by ingesting animal FAT or hydrogenated fat (Crisco)
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Animal fats dont make you get blood clots. Everyone is different based on genetics. Stuff runs in families big time. Some people just clot like crazy, some are opposite. Has little to do with how much crisco u eat, other than the fact that saturated fats have an inflammatory effect. Carbs on the other hand are guaranteed to jack up cholesterol.

Blood is one of the most complex things in the human body, it is not a one-off thing. Just taking aspirin is okay, but it just makes stuff slippery not thin. Water intake, exercise the list is endless. Saturated fats are just one item on a long list of considerations.
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Heading off to work.

Let me know your thoughts/experiences with these beasts. I always thought of them as being for old folks. At the vascular surgeon's office, I was the youngest by 3 decades, at least.

The nurse at the vascular surgeon's office showed me her compression socks and said the entire office wears them. I appreciate people who practice what they preach.
 Quoting: MisSpelt Rebbal


Why no asprin ?
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I'm on blood thinners, too. Xarelto. It does nothing for pain. That's what the compression socks are for. I know there are natural blood thinners, but mine was big. Really big. I want it gone ASAP.

Diet wise, I'm trying to get into autophagy routinely.
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I'm not fond of the new blood thinners. They aren't easily reveresed, if at all, in the event of a bleed. I prefer warfarin. It can be controlled and the dosage is easy to adjust. The new drugs are more convenient though.

It's a scary thing. Mine started out as a DVT that was missed. I had severe swelling and crippling pain for years in my leg and was told it was nothing, the last doc to examine me for the leg said I had water on my knee. A year or two later I had the embolism. I'm still really pissed that no one caught the DVT. I had more than 60 clots in my lung when I went to the ER.

What's really messed up is that I sat at home and even went to the bed overnight all the while the clots were running through my lung. It was almost 24 hours after the embolism started before I got help, at that point I was blue, I could not breathe at all and I couldn't move because the pain was so bad.

My symptoms of PE started as a feeling of euphoria from the hypoxia, pain in my left arm, my entire arm and into my neck and shoulder blade, extreme pain, and then coughing. I ignored the cough until I got worse and then I noticed the palm of my hand had blood all over it, I was coughing it up.

When the clot/clots move from your leg up to your lungs, if it's a big one or a large clump of clots, you WILL feel it as it moves through various areas.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.

I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die.
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Pretty certain they're caused by ingesting animal FAT or hydrogenated fat (Crisco)
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I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die.
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This sounds scary. I haven't ever given it a thought but now that I've read this thread you guys have scared the crap out of me. I'm not scared enough to wear compression socks though. I'm way too dorky to up my fashion game that far.
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Heading off to work.

Let me know your thoughts/experiences with these beasts. I always thought of them as being for old folks. At the vascular surgeon's office, I was the youngest by 3 decades, at least.

The nurse at the vascular surgeon's office showed me her compression socks and said the entire office wears them. I appreciate people who practice what they preach.
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Why no asprin ?
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I'm on blood thinners, too. Xarelto. It does nothing for pain. That's what the compression socks are for. I know there are natural blood thinners, but mine was big. Really big. I want it gone ASAP.

Diet wise, I'm trying to get into autophagy routinely.
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I'm not fond of the new blood thinners. They aren't easily reveresed, if at all, in the event of a bleed. I prefer warfarin. It can be controlled and the dosage is easy to adjust. The new drugs are more convenient though.

It's a scary thing. Mine started out as a DVT that was missed. I had severe swelling and crippling pain for years in my leg and was told it was nothing, the last doc to examine me for the leg said I had water on my knee. A year or two later I had the embolism. I'm still really pissed that no one caught the DVT. I had more than 60 clots in my lung when I went to the ER.

What's really messed up is that I sat at home and even went to the bed overnight all the while the clots were running through my lung. It was almost 24 hours after the embolism started before I got help, at that point I was blue, I could not breathe at all and I couldn't move because the pain was so bad.

My symptoms of PE started as a feeling of euphoria from the hypoxia, pain in my left arm, my entire arm and into my neck and shoulder blade, extreme pain, and then coughing. I ignored the cough until I got worse and then I noticed the palm of my hand had blood all over it, I was coughing it up.

When the clot/clots move from your leg up to your lungs, if it's a big one or a large clump of clots, you WILL feel it as it moves through various areas.
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Euphoria? I have heard that drowning causes that too. How deceitful!
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I was almost killed by a bloodclot in 1964.

Back then they paddled kids in school for misbehaving.

One day I was wrongly accused of something I did not do. The female teacher requested the 300 pound coach to come and paddle me. This clown bragged about drilling holes in his paddle in order to make it sting as much as possible.

The coach was one sadistic, perverted piece of garbage. He swung his wooden paddle back a far as he could and swung with his full weight behind it. I got 10 of them.

It was so brutal that my ass and legs turned black. The next day I felt numb in my ass. It was a blood clot. As the day went along I could feel the numb feeling moving up my leg to my side and then to my neck. At that point it had only two paths. Either go to my brain which would have killed me instantly or go to my nose.

I was very lucky that it went to my nose. It swelled my nose shut and I went to the idiot doctor who said I had a cold. Two months later I still could not breath out of my nose and so went to the doctor again. It was then they discovered the blood clot in my nose.

They told me there were too many nerves and major blood vessels in my nose to give my any sort of pain numbing medication. So they strapped me in a chair and had other people hold my head in place while the doctor ran his knife up my nose and cut the blood clot out. I am in my upper 60's now and can say that I have never been through a more painful thing in my life.

Because the idiot doctors did not catch the clot in my nose right away the clot was in my nose for two months and dissolved most of the cart ledge in my nose. so I have gone through most of my life with a nose that looks like a boxers nose....one that has been broken multiple times.

Don't get me wrong though. Even though I went through hell I still believe in spanking and paddling to discipline kids. But the people who do it need to be trained and not be left to sadistic fat ass coaches brutalizing those kids.


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Why no asprin ?
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I'm on blood thinners, too. Xarelto. It does nothing for pain. That's what the compression socks are for. I know there are natural blood thinners, but mine was big. Really big. I want it gone ASAP.

Diet wise, I'm trying to get into autophagy routinely.
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I'm not fond of the new blood thinners. They aren't easily reveresed, if at all, in the event of a bleed. I prefer warfarin. It can be controlled and the dosage is easy to adjust. The new drugs are more convenient though.

It's a scary thing. Mine started out as a DVT that was missed. I had severe swelling and crippling pain for years in my leg and was told it was nothing, the last doc to examine me for the leg said I had water on my knee. A year or two later I had the embolism. I'm still really pissed that no one caught the DVT. I had more than 60 clots in my lung when I went to the ER.

What's really messed up is that I sat at home and even went to the bed overnight all the while the clots were running through my lung. It was almost 24 hours after the embolism started before I got help, at that point I was blue, I could not breathe at all and I couldn't move because the pain was so bad.

My symptoms of PE started as a feeling of euphoria from the hypoxia, pain in my left arm, my entire arm and into my neck and shoulder blade, extreme pain, and then coughing. I ignored the cough until I got worse and then I noticed the palm of my hand had blood all over it, I was coughing it up.

When the clot/clots move from your leg up to your lungs, if it's a big one or a large clump of clots, you WILL feel it as it moves through various areas.
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Euphoria? I have heard that drowning causes that too. How deceitful!
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chuckle Right. It was the most strange feeling. I woke up from a nap feeling that way and then the pain started. Not a big fan of that feeling anymore lol.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it.

I am an evil giraffe, and I shall eat more leaves from this tree than perhaps I should, so that other giraffes may die.





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