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American Citizenship is a Curse

 
Kiwi25
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As an expat American, I pay taxes in 2 countries, report bank accounts, and have no access to welfare benefits or Medicare. Tax treaties do not alwasys eliminate double taxation and rules can be extremely unfair. Also, a spouse with significant savings has the same reporting requirements whether a citizen or not. Hence marriage is problematic for expats.

If I were NOT a citizen, I would pay no USA taxes or have no reporting requirements.

Also, while I can vote,it seems that many non-citizens do so also. And if they go back to Mexico or wherever, they pay no taxes, fill out no forms and have no accountanct costs.

Their spouses come into the USA free..without huge expense.

Renouncing citizenship now costs thousands of dollars and then one may encounter problems dealing with family business in the USA the future. Suggestions were made by some Congressmen that such individuals should be penalized.

Geez, I think I'd rather be an illegal getting free education for my kids, living on cash payments and enjoying a less complicated and more carefree life instead of dealing with mountains of paperwork. Time is a precious resource and the government is stealing mine.

It's easy to see why so many thousand of Americans are renouncing their citizenship.

Last Edited by Kiwi25 on 01/12/2018 03:05 PM
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Expats only pay taxes for 10 years unless changes were made.
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It's easy to see why so many thousand of Americans are renouncing their citizenship.
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Good riddance.
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It's easy to see why so many thousand of Americans are renouncing their citizenship.
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Good riddance.
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CONFISCATE THEIR COATS!

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Did you even read your own data? Obviously, renouncing US citizenship is a dumb idea. It's double taxation, difficult to accomplish, certainly needless government bureaucracy. But everyone eventually wants back in. Moral-- US citizenship is a huge blessing. You shouldn't have screwed with it.

THe bureaucracy sucks ass, but everyone smart is trying to get here. Because they're stupid? No. Whenever I am forced to travel, for the past 30 years, all I hear is the USA sucks, how can I live there?
"Aside from the small band of Forteans scattered around the world, nobody seems to notice all aspects of this phantasmagoria."
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hate to see ya go...BYE!
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You must file every year, but if you make under around 99,000$ in your host country a year you pay no taxes to the US.

They do this to go after tax evaders and rich Americans who live in other countries and have properties, etc.

If you are just a normal person who makes under 100,000 K a year it shouldn't affect you, although you must file
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The land of the slaves
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...you can check out anytime you want, but you can never leave.
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"Citizen" (of any country) is synonymous with "slave". Only brain dead yahoos run around puffing out their chest and say they are downright PROUD to be a US citizen.
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if you arent on psychiatry and the singer to ostrich the band doesnt live across a canal from you dont worry too much
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"Citizen" (of any country) is synonymous with "slave". Only brain dead yahoos run around puffing out their chest and say they are downright PROUD to be a US citizen.
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You can always get the fuck out also...Just sayin.
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"Citizen" (of any country) is synonymous with "slave". Only brain dead yahoos run around puffing out their chest and say they are downright PROUD to be a US citizen.
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Exactly even border jumpers know better.

It is akin to choosing a God.


God or government.

Lots of really dumb and brainwashed idiot all over.
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"Citizen" (of any country) is synonymous with "slave". Only brain dead yahoos run around puffing out their chest and say they are downright PROUD to be a US citizen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 901453


You can always get the fuck out also...Just sayin.
 Quoting: BrokenTech


You are very stupid.

Here listen up if you don't feel like eating paint chips for a few minutes.

[link to georgegordon.org]
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"Citizen" (of any country) is synonymous with "slave". Only brain dead yahoos run around puffing out their chest and say they are downright PROUD to be a US citizen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 901453


You can always get the fuck out also...Just sayin.
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You are very stupid.

Here listen up if you don't feel like eating paint chips for a few minutes.

[link to georgegordon.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73235049


So move to Mars or the Moon.
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Expats only pay taxes for 10 years unless changes were made.
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Nope...For a lifetime. Check it out.





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