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What happened 125 years ago on 1/13/1893 in Hawaii?

 
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What happened in Hawaii on January 13th 1893
US Marines landed in Hawaii to confront the Queen of Hawaii.

[link to thepandorasociety.com]

But what happened on the 125th anniversay?
A false alarm?
[link to www.navytimes.com (secure)]

hiding
 Quoting: WinterStone


Didn’t the annexation of Hawaii happen on Jan 17th?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 49684662


Yes, it did.


However,
on 1/13/1893 apparently 300 Marines landed in Honolulu, Hawaii.. to prevent the Queen of Hawaii from abrogating the Bayonet Constitution. But was said Marines were there to just protect American citizens.
Cleveland the Democratic President
wanted bring her to the point of surrender but wanted to do it without force.
[link to thepandorasociety.com]

This happened on 1/14/1893
[link to www.loc.gov (secure)]

Then, on 1/17/1893
[link to www.hawaii-nation.org (secure)]
[link to hawaiiankingdom.org]
This was done during a Democratic Administration and so was the Atomic Bomb Attack on Japan in 1945.

READ YOUR HISTORY.
[link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)]
Pearl Harbor in Hawaii was also preformed during a Democratic Administration...Also the 3/11/11 in Japan occurred during the Obama Administration who claimed to be from Hawaii.
Crazy times we live in.

Just saying..

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Globalists always pick special dates and places for their false flag events whether they be anniversaries or satanic dates or numbers.
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It was a red flag reminder for sure!!! 125 year anniversary same day!
 Quoting: WinterStone


A lot of interesting legal battles regarding sovereignty and ceded land titles going on currently. The symbolism is significant.
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Yup, those evil bastards gonna pay
Hesher was here! Fuck You!
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125 is their code for writing EL

12 = L
5 = E
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Extinction level?
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It would have only been a matter of time before Hawaii was colonized by one of the contemporary powers.

Europe wasn't mostly ruled by cuckolds at the time.

thinkab0utit7
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Age old excuse but once you learn the real history, you'll find that not to be so.
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Would you be kind enough to share the real history with us?
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It's complicated but here are some brief tidbits.

Hawaii was a neutral nation under the protection of Great Britain - hence the flag similarities.

Hawaii, Japan and China were in negotiations to form a united Pacific Union but delayed due to outside influences creating trouble for Japan's emperor and thus distracting his attention.

At the time of the overthrow, Hawaii was the most literate nation on earth - 99% rate. It was also the most hitech with electricity and indoor plumbing long before the Whitehouse or Buckingham Palace.
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Britain easily had the most powerful navy in the world at that time. What exactly did they do to protect Hawaii?

Hawaii had almost no ability to defend themselves notwithstanding your point that they were literate and enjoyed modern amenities.

Hawaii, with all its beauty and pleasant weather, had a relatively small population, limited resources, and no heavy industry.

Perhaps I am more cynical than you, but I still believe it was only a question of when.
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What happened in Hawaii on January 13th 1893
US Marines landed in Hawaii to confront the Queen of Hawaii.


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obamagay2
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Yes, I know and I was just speaking of the Obama Administration in which was in office during the 3/11/11 Japan catastrophic meltdown.
Odd connection between Hawaii, our democratic government and Japan over the years..

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USA-193 shot down
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The Blount Report "first provided evidence that officially identified the United States' complicity in the lawless overthrow of the lawful, peaceful government of Hawaii."

Blount concluded that U.S. Minister to Hawaii John L. Stevens had carried out unauthorized partisan activities, including the landing of U.S. Marines under a false or exaggerated pretext, to support the anti-royalist conspirators; that these actions were instrumental to the success of the revolution; and that the revolution was carried out against the wishes of a majority of the population of Hawaii.

The Blount Report was followed in 1894 by the Morgan Report, which contradicted Blount's report by concluding that all participants except for Queen Liliʻuokalani were "not guilty"[3], and therefore concluded that the U.S. Government and its agents were not to blame in the conspiracy to overthrow the monarchy.

NOT related to JP Morgan? Right? Ha-Ha-Ha...?

Like King of the Psychopath Murderers of his time?

Sheeeeit, no conspiracy there?
?
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The Blount Report "first provided evidence that officially identified the United States' complicity in the lawless overthrow of the lawful, peaceful government of Hawaii."

Blount concluded that U.S. Minister to Hawaii John L. Stevens had carried out unauthorized partisan activities, including the landing of U.S. Marines under a false or exaggerated pretext, to support the anti-royalist conspirators; that these actions were instrumental to the success of the revolution; and that the revolution was carried out against the wishes of a majority of the population of Hawaii.

The Blount Report was followed in 1894 by the Morgan Report, which contradicted Blount's report by concluding that all participants except for Queen Liliʻuokalani were "not guilty"[3], and therefore concluded that the U.S. Government and its agents were not to blame in the conspiracy to overthrow the monarchy.

NOT related to JP Morgan? Right? Ha-Ha-Ha...?

Like King of the Psychopath Murderers of his time?

Sheeeeit, no conspiracy there?
?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6229397


Should we tell them about the bio)warfare used to attempt genocide of the Hawaiian people - especially the royal family?
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

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or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

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WELL WITH THE GROWIN POWER O JAPAN THEY KNEW WULD REQUIRE OUTBASES AN AFTER SPANISH AMERICAN WAR THEY TOOK PHILLIPINES TO BLOCK JAPANES SUPPLY LINES.
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Age old excuse but once you learn the real history, you'll find that not to be so.
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


Would you be kind enough to share the real history with us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75946570


It's complicated but here are some brief tidbits.

Hawaii was a neutral nation under the protection of Great Britain - hence the flag similarities.

Hawaii, Japan and China were in negotiations to form a united Pacific Union but delayed due to outside influences creating trouble for Japan's emperor and thus distracting his attention.

At the time of the overthrow, Hawaii was the most literate nation on earth - 99% rate. It was also the most hitech with electricity and indoor plumbing long before the Whitehouse or Buckingham Palace.
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


Britain easily had the most powerful navy in the world at that time. What exactly did they do to protect Hawaii?

Hawaii had almost no ability to defend themselves notwithstanding your point that they were literate and enjoyed modern amenities.

Hawaii, with all its beauty and pleasant weather, had a relatively small population, limited resources, and no heavy industry.

Perhaps I am more cynical than you, but I still believe it was only a question of when.
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BECAUSE BRITAIN KNEW IT COULD NOT DEFEND ALL THIS TERRITORY AN ITS COLONNNS IN SOUTH ASIA AN WAS GONNA NEED USNAVY TO HELP.
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Would you be kind enough to share the real history with us?
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It's complicated but here are some brief tidbits.

Hawaii was a neutral nation under the protection of Great Britain - hence the flag similarities.

Hawaii, Japan and China were in negotiations to form a united Pacific Union but delayed due to outside influences creating trouble for Japan's emperor and thus distracting his attention.

At the time of the overthrow, Hawaii was the most literate nation on earth - 99% rate. It was also the most hitech with electricity and indoor plumbing long before the Whitehouse or Buckingham Palace.
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


Britain easily had the most powerful navy in the world at that time. What exactly did they do to protect Hawaii?

Hawaii had almost no ability to defend themselves notwithstanding your point that they were literate and enjoyed modern amenities.

Hawaii, with all its beauty and pleasant weather, had a relatively small population, limited resources, and no heavy industry.

Perhaps I am more cynical than you, but I still believe it was only a question of when.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75946570


BECAUSE BRITAIN KNEW IT COULD NOT DEFEND ALL THIS TERRITORY AN ITS COLONNNS IN SOUTH ASIA AN WAS GONNA NEED USNAVY TO HELP.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76103107


WHICH ALL PPPPROVED PRETTY INNEFFECTIVE WHEN JAPAN LAUNCHED ITS CAMPAIGN.
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Perhaps protection was provided that stopped an event...


Deleted it...

I generally support your threads, WinterStone...but
to post something that suggests something like this
coming from President Trump is off the wall--why in the
name of everything that is HOLY would Trump want to
freak-out the citizens of Hawaii with a false flag...or
even do something violent.

I truly do NOT think President Trump or anyone in his
admin would declare WAR on Hawaii. Are you smoking that
funny vegetable again!?? lol! ( would delete that post
(and mine, of course.) Just sayin.

cheers
O'sCookie
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They posters were suggesting that the Trump Administration might have intercepted a possible attempt... Not that he was responsible for the false alarm... I hope he did intercept an attack.. It would be awesome if he had a hand in stopping harm to the Hawaii citizens..

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The Blount Report "first provided evidence that officially identified the United States' complicity in the lawless overthrow of the lawful, peaceful government of Hawaii."

Blount concluded that U.S. Minister to Hawaii John L. Stevens had carried out unauthorized partisan activities, including the landing of U.S. Marines under a false or exaggerated pretext, to support the anti-royalist conspirators; that these actions were instrumental to the success of the revolution; and that the revolution was carried out against the wishes of a majority of the population of Hawaii.

The Blount Report was followed in 1894 by the Morgan Report, which contradicted Blount's report by concluding that all participants except for Queen Liliʻuokalani were "not guilty"[3], and therefore concluded that the U.S. Government and its agents were not to blame in the conspiracy to overthrow the monarchy.

NOT related to JP Morgan? Right? Ha-Ha-Ha...?

Like King of the Psychopath Murderers of his time?

Sheeeeit, no conspiracy there?
?
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Should we tell them about the bio)warfare used to attempt genocide of the Hawaiian people - especially the royal family?
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


Do you have links? That would be aweful if they had a hand in something like that!
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Thread: Clinton's were in Hawaii day before false alarm!! (Page 2)

And Clinto was the one that signed the Apology Bill in 1993

Things that make you go hmmm...
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Thats interesting!!!
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The Blount Report "first provided evidence that officially identified the United States' complicity in the lawless overthrow of the lawful, peaceful government of Hawaii."

Blount concluded that U.S. Minister to Hawaii John L. Stevens had carried out unauthorized partisan activities, including the landing of U.S. Marines under a false or exaggerated pretext, to support the anti-royalist conspirators; that these actions were instrumental to the success of the revolution; and that the revolution was carried out against the wishes of a majority of the population of Hawaii.

The Blount Report was followed in 1894 by the Morgan Report, which contradicted Blount's report by concluding that all participants except for Queen Liliʻuokalani were "not guilty"[3], and therefore concluded that the U.S. Government and its agents were not to blame in the conspiracy to overthrow the monarchy.

NOT related to JP Morgan? Right? Ha-Ha-Ha...?

Like King of the Psychopath Murderers of his time?

Sheeeeit, no conspiracy there?
?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6229397


Should we tell them about the bio)warfare used to attempt genocide of the Hawaiian people - especially the royal family?
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


Do you have links? That would be aweful if they had a hand in something like that!
 Quoting: WinterStone


Not offhand. I learned about it while doing indepth genealogy research on my husband's family. I've read a lot of newspaper articles and personal accounts from that time period - things you won't find in standard history books.

It would be good to put it all together - may do that as soon as I get back into finishing up my research. I have to make a trip to the Bishop Museum on Oahu to fill in the missing names and dates. My husband's family is from a kapu (forbidden) genealogy line. The museum has the entire lineage in a book, owned by Kamehameha schools, that only descendants can view and no cameras but you can take notes. They had to hide the royal heirs because of assassinations and still do. Bernice Bishop was not the last of the Kamehamehas - that was an outright lie. There are many direct legitimate descendants of Kamehaneha the Great and a good percentage are nearly pure blooded kanaka maoli.
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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The Blount Report "first provided evidence that officially identified the United States' complicity in the lawless overthrow of the lawful, peaceful government of Hawaii."

Blount concluded that U.S. Minister to Hawaii John L. Stevens had carried out unauthorized partisan activities, including the landing of U.S. Marines under a false or exaggerated pretext, to support the anti-royalist conspirators; that these actions were instrumental to the success of the revolution; and that the revolution was carried out against the wishes of a majority of the population of Hawaii.

The Blount Report was followed in 1894 by the Morgan Report, which contradicted Blount's report by concluding that all participants except for Queen Liliʻuokalani were "not guilty"[3], and therefore concluded that the U.S. Government and its agents were not to blame in the conspiracy to overthrow the monarchy.

NOT related to JP Morgan? Right? Ha-Ha-Ha...?

Like King of the Psychopath Murderers of his time?

Sheeeeit, no conspiracy there?
?
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Should we tell them about the bio)warfare used to attempt genocide of the Hawaiian people - especially the royal family?
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


Do you have links? That would be aweful if they had a hand in something like that!
 Quoting: WinterStone


Not offhand. I learned about it while doing indepth genealogy research on my husband's family. I've read a lot of newspaper articles and personal accounts from that time period - things you won't find in standard history books.

It would be good to put it all together - may do that as soon as I get back into finishing up my research. I have to make a trip to the Bishop Museum on Oahu to fill in the missing names and dates. My husband's family is from a kapu (forbidden) genealogy line. The museum has the entire lineage in a book, owned by Kamehameha schools, that only descendants can view and no cameras but you can take notes. They had to hide the royal heirs because of assassinations and still do. Bernice Bishop was not the last of the Kamehamehas - that was an outright lie. There are many direct legitimate descendants of Kamehaneha the Great and a good percentage are nearly pure blooded kanaka maoli.
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It seems so many have an agenda for this and that. Our world is completely out of control. It would be good to compile research just for your own information, Im thinking. It seems anything you, me or others try to do for good..is used against us, family or nations. Talk about feeling beat down. It seems that's what these groups want is to beat people into submission to become a One World Gov.. Put us all in a blender and make us one. Get rid of pure blood lines.. I think we can look at the UN being the root of the movement. blackeye

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Should we tell them about the bio)warfare used to attempt genocide of the Hawaiian people - especially the royal family?
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


Do you have links? That would be aweful if they had a hand in something like that!
 Quoting: WinterStone


Not offhand. I learned about it while doing indepth genealogy research on my husband's family. I've read a lot of newspaper articles and personal accounts from that time period - things you won't find in standard history books.

It would be good to put it all together - may do that as soon as I get back into finishing up my research. I have to make a trip to the Bishop Museum on Oahu to fill in the missing names and dates. My husband's family is from a kapu (forbidden) genealogy line. The museum has the entire lineage in a book, owned by Kamehameha schools, that only descendants can view and no cameras but you can take notes. They had to hide the royal heirs because of assassinations and still do. Bernice Bishop was not the last of the Kamehamehas - that was an outright lie. There are many direct legitimate descendants of Kamehaneha the Great and a good percentage are nearly pure blooded kanaka maoli.
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


It seems so many have an agenda for this and that. Our world is completely out of control. It would be good to compile research just for your own information, Im thinking. It seems anything you, me or others try to do for good..is used against us, family or nations. Talk about feeling beat down. It seems that's what these groups want is to beat people into submission to become a One World Gov.. Put us all in a blender and make us one. Get rid of pure blood lines.. I think we can look at the UN being the root of the movement. blackeye
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Before diving into Hawaiian royal genealogy, I had worked with some sovereignty leaders providing historical and legal research. I stopped when they turned to the UN for help and warned them it was a trap.

tarp
“If we are peaceful, if we are happy, we can smile and blossom like a flower, and everyone in our family, our entire society, will benefit from our peace.”
Thich Nhat Hanh, Being Peace

"But ask the animals, and they will teach you,
or the birds in the sky, and they will tell you;
or speak to the earth, and it will teach you,
or let the fish in the sea inform you." - Job 12:7,8

"When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro." - Hunter S. Thompson



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Do you have links? That would be aweful if they had a hand in something like that!
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Not offhand. I learned about it while doing indepth genealogy research on my husband's family. I've read a lot of newspaper articles and personal accounts from that time period - things you won't find in standard history books.

It would be good to put it all together - may do that as soon as I get back into finishing up my research. I have to make a trip to the Bishop Museum on Oahu to fill in the missing names and dates. My husband's family is from a kapu (forbidden) genealogy line. The museum has the entire lineage in a book, owned by Kamehameha schools, that only descendants can view and no cameras but you can take notes. They had to hide the royal heirs because of assassinations and still do. Bernice Bishop was not the last of the Kamehamehas - that was an outright lie. There are many direct legitimate descendants of Kamehaneha the Great and a good percentage are nearly pure blooded kanaka maoli.
 Quoting: Rev Woo-Woo


It seems so many have an agenda for this and that. Our world is completely out of control. It would be good to compile research just for your own information, Im thinking. It seems anything you, me or others try to do for good..is used against us, family or nations. Talk about feeling beat down. It seems that's what these groups want is to beat people into submission to become a One World Gov.. Put us all in a blender and make us one. Get rid of pure blood lines.. I think we can look at the UN being the root of the movement. blackeye
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Before diving into Hawaiian royal genealogy, I had worked with some sovereignty leaders providing historical and legal research. I stopped when they turned to the UN for help and warned them it was a trap.

tarp
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ABSOLUTELY!!!!
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