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GLP Gardeners have begun planning my spring garden using Ollas for irrigation

 
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02/07/2018 02:40 PM
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I’m going coco noir this summer, first time trying it.

Hopefully better than last years crop, aphids killed me because I forgo the neem oil, relying on good microbe soil.

Never again!


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For insect control Neem oil, Diatomaceous Earth, Garlic oil (also repels rabbits) and Mint oil and plants all keep insect populations down
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I usually spray every year with neem, but forgo it this year because I bought some soil from a soil farmer. Had great stuff in it but I think I over watered a few times and washed out the nutrients too fast, killing the microbes.

Thought about ordering the ladybugs but by the time they would have arrived it wouldn’t of mattered. We went to Yellowstone and left them under the care of my near blind father so by the time I got home and noticed the infestation it was beyond the point of no return. Was close to harvest, 3 weeks out.

My indoor was great, but outdoor has such a different turnout, even if it’s the same strain.

Thanks for the other recommendations though, will definitely try the garlic oil in my red chard and kale, damn bunnies love it.
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same here. outdoor pested. indoor fine.
heat stress and dry air= lots of pests
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02/07/2018 02:49 PM
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Ok Lancifer. I now have homework! Lol.

The gardening revolution guy is in my neck of the woods. Very cool!

Our beds are 8-12 deep. Not really deep, but I find it is quite sufficient for all of your standard garden plants. We also have a veritably endless supply of manure, so the beds get covered in that, sometimes after it's composted and sometimes straight to the bed to sit and age over the winter.

Last year and the year before, our garden was taken over by bindweed. No fun at all. Have to re-do the entire thing, but have a plan for a chicken moat around it and that should prevent bindweed from creeping in. A reclamation project, if you will. Tried doing other beds scattered about, but it was too chaotic over three acres.

It's going to cost a couple hundred for the weed barrier I need, but it's really not optional. Have beds in the greenhouse and do alright with it, but it can't quite cover all of our needs.

Ok. Off to my homework.

Cool thread, Silver Patriot! Appreciate it!
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You can plant in your chicken moat (I have a design with plantings but it is for a Temperate Rainforest). All sorts of berries, inside the moat itself. On the outer edges Illinois Everbearing Mulberries, Russian Olive, etc.
If you want to build the moat high enough you can string some aviation wire over the center of the run (so you can walk under it) and put in grapes/hardy kiwis etc to protect the chickens from too much sun and predators. In other words put in an arbor over the run itself. Try and make the chickens as self-sufficient in feed as possible.
On the outer edge of the run, you could fence in areas and grow amaranth which requires little soil and is highly drought resistant. The greens are edible so you can let the chickens in once the plants are high enough to be over their heads, to graze. Then harvest the heads at the appropriate time and dry them out whole to feed the chickens with later.
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As long as I planted Kiwi on the garden side of the moat, that should work out well. This bindweed is pretty insane, and the garden spot is the only pretty level and good sun place we have. I was planning on using shade cloth over part of the moat.

I'll watch your video later tonight. Really good info.

Hope everyone has great gardens this year!
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As long as I planted Kiwi on the garden side of the moat, that should work out well. This bindweed is pretty insane, and the garden spot is the only pretty level and good sun place we have. I was planning on using shade cloth over part of the moat.

I'll watch your video later tonight. Really good info.

Hope everyone has great gardens this year!
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


I got distracted...hardy kiwi is a semi-shade plant anyhow, it will grow in full light of course but the leaves turn a wondrous mottled white, pink and light green...'obviously' not something you would want as a feature plant. If you get the Arctic Beauty (look for online nurseries not 'one off sites') it is absolutely gorgeous. And they love (unlike some other kiwi's) high nitrogen....
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Nice! my seed order is en route...I like to start tomatoes and peppers earlier then suggested. About to put in fava beans so they can grow for a bit before I mow them down (yuck) and turn them into the soil. Olla's are awesome.
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Fava is one of many beans that contain PHA a plant-produced insecticide that make the beans poisonous if consumed raw however, I know nothing of the contents of the leaves and stems.

We add seaweed, Icelandic kelp, earthworm castings and azomite to fertilize and return nutrients to the soil.
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Great soil amendment choices. That Azomite is great stuff, are you able to purchase it locally or do you buy it online?

Another rock dust mineral source is Mezotrace, it is sold for animal feed supplementation and human consumption, it seems a little expensive but I've been taking it on and off for a while and I think it's helping my teeth. Now when I buy it I say "it's cheaper than the dentist" and I've noticed it seems to work synergistically with a probiotic. I'm going to step up my consumption of Mezotrace and see what happens.

I have some Azomite that I got for a tree I'm especially fond of. I put some on the roots last fall and I will do it again early this spring.
 Quoting: Vision Thing


Use Endo Mycorrhizae on roots when transplanting into the garden from our greenhouses.

We purchase Azomite along with Earthworm Castings, kelp and seaweed fertilizer online it is easier and cheaper than hunting store to store.

Try some kelp on your favorite tree boosting the nutrients on the soil always helps just spread it wide and soak the soil.

Mycorrhizal Applications
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