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GLP Gardeners have begun planning my spring garden using Ollas for irrigation
Might be winter but have begun planning my garden for this spring and will be using the ancient concept of Ollas for irrigation to save water effort and time.

We have a raised bed garden, purchased three commercial Ollas for melons, okra and cucumbers, and found a website to make Ollas as a DIY project for other boxes.

For those who live in areas where the ground freezes the Ollas will need to be removed from the soil each fall otherwise they will break.

Spanish Colonial Olla Irrigation Makes a Comeback
[link to newscenter.nmsu.edu]

Homemade Ollas 101 (Irrigation)
[link to www.homegrown.org]

Make Your Own Ollas
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Native Seeds/SEARCH - How to Use Olla Irrigation
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Great links !!!
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Great links !!!
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Thanks, thought some gardeners would find this useful.
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I’m going coco noir this summer, first time trying it.

Hopefully better than last years crop, aphids killed me because I forgo the neem oil, relying on good microbe soil.

Never again!

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I’m going coco noir this summer, first time trying it.

Hopefully better than last years crop, aphids killed me because I forgo the neem oil, relying on good microbe soil.

Never again!


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For insect control Neem oil, Diatomaceous Earth, Garlic oil (also repels rabbits) and Mint oil and plants all keep insect populations down

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I’m going coco noir this summer, first time trying it.

Hopefully better than last years crop, aphids killed me because I forgo the neem oil, relying on good microbe soil.

Never again!

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For insect control Neem oil, Diatomaceous Earth, Garlic oil (also repels rabbits) and Mint oil and plants all keep insect populations down
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


And ladybugs!
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Thanks for the links! Have been thinking about an irrigation system myself and had not heard of this.
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Thanks for the links! Have been thinking about an irrigation system myself and had not heard of this.
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Hope it works well for you.
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I’m going coco noir this summer, first time trying it.

Hopefully better than last years crop, aphids killed me because I forgo the neem oil, relying on good microbe soil.

Never again!


 Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen



For insect control Neem oil, Diatomaceous Earth, Garlic oil (also repels rabbits) and Mint oil and plants all keep insect populations down
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


I usually spray every year with neem, but forgo it this year because I bought some soil from a soil farmer. Had great stuff in it but I think I over watered a few times and washed out the nutrients too fast, killing the microbes.

Thought about ordering the ladybugs but by the time they would have arrived it wouldn’t of mattered. We went to Yellowstone and left them under the care of my near blind father so by the time I got home and noticed the infestation it was beyond the point of no return. Was close to harvest, 3 weeks out.

My indoor was great, but outdoor has such a different turnout, even if it’s the same strain.

Thanks for the other recommendations though, will definitely try the garlic oil in my red chard and kale, damn bunnies love it.
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Thanks OP going to try this in my garden.
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I’m going coco noir this summer, first time trying it.

Hopefully better than last years crop, aphids killed me because I forgo the neem oil, relying on good microbe soil.

Never again!


 Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen



For insect control Neem oil, Diatomaceous Earth, Garlic oil (also repels rabbits) and Mint oil and plants all keep insect populations down
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


I usually spray every year with neem, but forgo it this year because I bought some soil from a soil farmer. Had great stuff in it but I think I over watered a few times and washed out the nutrients too fast, killing the microbes.

Thought about ordering the ladybugs but by the time they would have arrived it wouldn’t of mattered. We went to Yellowstone and left them under the care of my near blind father so by the time I got home and noticed the infestation it was beyond the point of no return. Was close to harvest, 3 weeks out.

My indoor was great, but outdoor has such a different turnout, even if it’s the same strain.

Thanks for the other recommendations though, will definitely try the garlic oil in my red chard and kale, damn bunnies love it.
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The bunnies and groundhogs hate mint plants also, we bordered our garden with live mint plants during the winter periodically spray my Thuja Green Giant Evergreen Trees with a mixture of mint and garlic to keep the deer away.
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I’m going coco noir this summer, first time trying it.

Hopefully better than last years crop, aphids killed me because I forgo the neem oil, relying on good microbe soil.

Never again!


 Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen



For insect control Neem oil, Diatomaceous Earth, Garlic oil (also repels rabbits) and Mint oil and plants all keep insect populations down
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Rabbits hate marigolds. Plant a line of them around your garden to keep them out. They look nice, and they keep the varmints away.
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I’m going coco noir this summer, first time trying it.

Hopefully better than last years crop, aphids killed me because I forgo the neem oil, relying on good microbe soil.

Never again!

itslegalnow
 Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen



For insect control Neem oil, Diatomaceous Earth, Garlic oil (also repels rabbits) and Mint oil and plants all keep insect populations down
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


And ladybugs!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75671798


Praying mantis are great insect control !
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I’m going coco noir this summer, first time trying it.

Hopefully better than last years crop, aphids killed me because I forgo the neem oil, relying on good microbe soil.

Never again!


 Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen



For insect control Neem oil, Diatomaceous Earth, Garlic oil (also repels rabbits) and Mint oil and plants all keep insect populations down
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Rabbits hate marigolds. Plant a line of them around your garden to keep them out. They look nice, and they keep the varmints away.
 Quoting: tiger1


Planted marigolds two years ago, they grew well but before I could harvest the seeds from the flowers the prolific deer in our area ate them. The border of mint plants keep rabbits, groundhogs and other rodents away from the garden which makes the area valuable even if I would prefer to grow something more useful in that area.

By the way, the garlic oil keeps mosquitoes away and under control as an added bonus of spraying for plant pest insect control.
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I’m going coco noir this summer, first time trying it.

Hopefully better than last years crop, aphids killed me because I forgo the neem oil, relying on good microbe soil.

Never again!

 Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen



For insect control Neem oil, Diatomaceous Earth, Garlic oil (also repels rabbits) and Mint oil and plants all keep insect populations down
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


And ladybugs!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75671798


Praying mantis are great insect control !
 Quoting: tiger1


Would not purchase beneficial insects such as ladybugs or praying mantis simply because of my use of Diatomaceous Earth (food grade) might be detrimental to these beneficial bugs.

Have found Diatomaceous Earth also controls grasshoppers and Japanese Beetles and use the bags to control the beetles.
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Thanks Silver Patriot, that is very interesting and I never heard of that before. Seems like it would be useful in a number of situations and looks cheap and easy to do.

The cylinder shape ones look practical if you have to dig them up in the fall so they don't break when they freeze. Would be the easiest shape to dig up.
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Thanks Silver Patriot, that is very interesting and I never heard of that before. Seems like it would be useful in a number of situations and looks cheap and easy to do.

The cylinder shape ones look practical if you have to dig them up in the fall so they don't break when they freeze. Would be the easiest shape to dig up.
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Still thinking, planning stage and have decided to purchase a siphon hand pump to empty remaining water from the buried Ollas for winter ground removal.
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I’m going coco noir this summer, first time trying it.

Hopefully better than last years crop, aphids killed me because I forgo the neem oil, relying on good microbe soil.

Never again!

itslegalnow
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I harvested a pound, dried in my legal state last year, using the no-dig method. I didn't water this plant at all. No bug issues at all.

Best place to get info on this method is:

www.charlesdowding.co.uk

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Nice! my seed order is en route...I like to start tomatoes and peppers earlier then suggested. About to put in fava beans so they can grow for a bit before I mow them down (yuck) and turn them into the soil. Olla's are awesome.
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Nice! my seed order is en route...I like to start tomatoes and peppers earlier then suggested. About to put in fava beans so they can grow for a bit before I mow them down (yuck) and turn them into the soil. Olla's are awesome.
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Fava is one of many beans that contain PHA a plant-produced insecticide that make the beans poisonous if consumed raw however, I know nothing of the contents of the leaves and stems.

We add seaweed, Icelandic kelp, earthworm castings and azomite to fertilize and return nutrients to the soil.
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Nice! my seed order is en route...I like to start tomatoes and peppers earlier then suggested. About to put in fava beans so they can grow for a bit before I mow them down (yuck) and turn them into the soil. Olla's are awesome.
 Quoting: Lancifer


Fava is one of many beans that contain PHA a plant-produced insecticide that make the beans poisonous if consumed raw however, I know nothing of the contents of the leaves and stems.

We add seaweed, Icelandic kelp, earthworm castings and azomite to fertilize and return nutrients to the soil.
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Great soil amendment choices. That Azomite is great stuff, are you able to purchase it locally or do you buy it online?

Another rock dust mineral source is Mezotrace, it is sold for animal feed supplementation and human consumption, it seems a little expensive but I've been taking it on and off for a while and I think it's helping my teeth. Now when I buy it I say "it's cheaper than the dentist" and I've noticed it seems to work synergistically with a probiotic. I'm going to step up my consumption of Mezotrace and see what happens.

I have some Azomite that I got for a tree I'm especially fond of. I put some on the roots last fall and I will do it again early this spring.
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For consideration
[link to www.dyarrow.org]

Interesting fellow Dr.Maynard Murray

[link to ratical.org (secure)]
Have a look, it has been tried and tested and almost sounds to good to be true but it is not!
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I’m going coco noir this summer, first time trying it.

Hopefully better than last years crop, aphids killed me because I forgo the neem oil, relying on good microbe soil.

Never again!

itslegalnow
 Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen


I grow (indoors and greenhouse) in coco...it is by far the best growing medium out there. We've run 900 lights with it (quit, big grows suck) and reused it for 6 years before adding the spent (50% coco/50% perlite) material into vegetable garden beds and they are doing great.

I'm going to experiment (we only have 40 lights now) with this, this year I think. One test plant, just add nitrogen.
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I’m going coco noir this summer, first time trying it.

Hopefully better than last years crop, aphids killed me because I forgo the neem oil, relying on good microbe soil.

Never again!

itslegalnow
 Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen


I grow (indoors and greenhouse) in coco...it is by far the best growing medium out there. We've run 900 lights with it (quit, big grows suck) and reused it for 6 years before adding the spent (50% coco/50% perlite) material into vegetable garden beds and they are doing great.

I'm going to experiment (we only have 40 lights now) with this, this year I think. One test plant, just add nitrogen.
[link to forum.grasscity.com (secure)]
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Are you serious? 6 years on coir? Talk about cost effective! Wow.

And 900 lights. Wow, again. I am currently looking into possibly running leds on rails in my vegetable greenhouse. Honestly, just vegetables, until they make cannabis legal here, I can't grow it. Did you use rails? Or do you have any experience with that?

I've mixed coir in with soil and it does wonders for the tilth.

There's another sea mineral company called Sea Minerals from Arkansas that is supposed to be good as well. We're you using Sea Minerals in the coir?

Also, for the ollas, I would imagine that coir would work great with those as well because it wicks moisture quite readily. We have entirely too many rocks to work with ollas, but we do raised beds with deep mulch and the garden doesn't need much water with that system as long as we have good spring rains.
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Planning my garden also. Tomatoes and Peppers. I use raised beds.
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I’m going coco noir this summer, first time trying it.

Hopefully better than last years crop, aphids killed me because I forgo the neem oil, relying on good microbe soil.

Never again!

itslegalnow
 Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen


I grow (indoors and greenhouse) in coco...it is by far the best growing medium out there. We've run 900 lights with it (quit, big grows suck) and reused it for 6 years before adding the spent (50% coco/50% perlite) material into vegetable garden beds and they are doing great.

I'm going to experiment (we only have 40 lights now) with this, this year I think. One test plant, just add nitrogen.
[link to forum.grasscity.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Lancifer


Are you serious? 6 years on coir? Talk about cost effective! Wow.

And 900 lights. Wow, again. I am currently looking into possibly running leds on rails in my vegetable greenhouse. Honestly, just vegetables, until they make cannabis legal here, I can't grow it. Did you use rails? Or do you have any experience with that?

I've mixed coir in with soil and it does wonders for the tilth.

There's another sea mineral company called Sea Minerals from Arkansas that is supposed to be good as well. We're you using Sea Minerals in the coir?

Also, for the ollas, I would imagine that coir would work great with those as well because it wicks moisture quite readily. We have entirely too many rocks to work with ollas, but we do raised beds with deep mulch and the garden doesn't need much water with that system as long as we have good spring rains.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


The thing about coir is that plant growth is not limited to bed/pot space. Growing in any other media the plant can only achieve a certain height and growth (normally determined by root restriction). Coir is kind of a hybrid of soil and hydroponics due to its ability to hold so much oxygen.
yes, 6 years is the max I have seen it reused, that was a dry-mix organic blend that only had various compost teas added during the growing season. It is best to water to achieve a 10-20% run off (if you are growing using Coco A and Coco B with Cal-Mag this gets a wee bit expensive but not so bad) I want to grow dry-mix organics.
This is (partially my sons site). [link to cannabis-world.org (secure)]
You will notice the 'Lancifers Plants' section...lol...I've never written there really.
I'm going to experiment with Sea-90 in the greenhouse this year for hot peppers and a few cannabis plants. I'm sure that all sea solids are pretty much created equal. I can see how a self feeding (via using solar to split water and get hydrogen) desalination plant could produce enough sea solids without using any outside power. Those plants could not only eliminate the need for aquifer draining (Nestle could buy a bunch for instance and keep selling water they made themselves), but they could remineralize the worlds soils.
How deep are your beds? Have you looked into the Len Pense method (I'm not getting younger so I'll probably build a few here soon)? [link to gardeningrevolution.com] ANd build the beds up to comfortable/no-bending over height.
And since I'm off work today, I'll throw in a neat video...
For dry-land gardeners/Permies...(I have 2 degrees and a Teachers Cert in Permaculture).
I won't embed it, it clutters threads but OP is more then welcome to
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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I’m going coco noir this summer, first time trying it.

Hopefully better than last years crop, aphids killed me because I forgo the neem oil, relying on good microbe soil.

Never again!

itslegalnow
 Quoting: Rorschach Watchmen


I grow (indoors and greenhouse) in coco...it is by far the best growing medium out there. We've run 900 lights with it (quit, big grows suck) and reused it for 6 years before adding the spent (50% coco/50% perlite) material into vegetable garden beds and they are doing great.

I'm going to experiment (we only have 40 lights now) with this, this year I think. One test plant, just add nitrogen.
[link to forum.grasscity.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Lancifer


Are you serious? 6 years on coir? Talk about cost effective! Wow.

And 900 lights. Wow, again. I am currently looking into possibly running leds on rails in my vegetable greenhouse. Honestly, just vegetables, until they make cannabis legal here, I can't grow it. Did you use rails? Or do you have any experience with that?

I've mixed coir in with soil and it does wonders for the tilth.

There's another sea mineral company called Sea Minerals from Arkansas that is supposed to be good as well. We're you using Sea Minerals in the coir?

Also, for the ollas, I would imagine that coir would work great with those as well because it wicks moisture quite readily. We have entirely too many rocks to work with ollas, but we do raised beds with deep mulch and the garden doesn't need much water with that system as long as we have good spring rains.
 Quoting: Fluffy Pancakes


The thing about coir is that plant growth is not limited to bed/pot space. Growing in any other media the plant can only achieve a certain height and growth (normally determined by root restriction). Coir is kind of a hybrid of soil and hydroponics due to its ability to hold so much oxygen.
yes, 6 years is the max I have seen it reused, that was a dry-mix organic blend that only had various compost teas added during the growing season. It is best to water to achieve a 10-20% run off (if you are growing using Coco A and Coco B with Cal-Mag this gets a wee bit expensive but not so bad) I want to grow dry-mix organics.
This is (partially my sons site). [link to cannabis-world.org (secure)]
You will notice the 'Lancifers Plants' section...lol...I've never written there really.
I'm going to experiment with Sea-90 in the greenhouse this year for hot peppers and a few cannabis plants. I'm sure that all sea solids are pretty much created equal. I can see how a self feeding (via using solar to split water and get hydrogen) desalination plant could produce enough sea solids without using any outside power. Those plants could not only eliminate the need for aquifer draining (Nestle could buy a bunch for instance and keep selling water they made themselves), but they could remineralize the worlds soils.
How deep are your beds? Have you looked into the Len Pense method (I'm not getting younger so I'll probably build a few here soon)? [link to gardeningrevolution.com] ANd build the beds up to comfortable/no-bending over height.
And since I'm off work today, I'll throw in a neat video...
For dry-land gardeners/Permies...(I have 2 degrees and a Teachers Cert in Permaculture).
I won't embed it, it clutters threads but OP is more then welcome to
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Lancifer



Done

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Nice! my seed order is en route...I like to start tomatoes and peppers earlier then suggested. About to put in fava beans so they can grow for a bit before I mow them down (yuck) and turn them into the soil. Olla's are awesome.
 Quoting: Lancifer


Fava is one of many beans that contain PHA a plant-produced insecticide that make the beans poisonous if consumed raw however, I know nothing of the contents of the leaves and stems.

We add seaweed, Icelandic kelp, earthworm castings and azomite to fertilize and return nutrients to the soil.
 Quoting: SilverPatriot


Great soil amendment choices. That Azomite is great stuff, are you able to purchase it locally or do you buy it online?

Another rock dust mineral source is Mezotrace, it is sold for animal feed supplementation and human consumption, it seems a little expensive but I've been taking it on and off for a while and I think it's helping my teeth. Now when I buy it I say "it's cheaper than the dentist" and I've noticed it seems to work synergistically with a probiotic. I'm going to step up my consumption of Mezotrace and see what happens.

I have some Azomite that I got for a tree I'm especially fond of. I put some on the roots last fall and I will do it again early this spring.
 Quoting: Vision Thing


For our own use, we take Fulvic Acid Minerals it as a road base of trace minerals and Willard Water. I spray the vegetables once a year with Willard Water, give my dogs, and cat some in their water daily.

Fulvic Acid Minerals
[link to www.fulvicminerals.org]

Willard's Water Information
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02/07/2018 02:36 PM

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Re: GLP Gardeners have begun planning my spring garden using Ollas for irrigation
Ok Lancifer. I now have homework! Lol.

The gardening revolution guy is in my neck of the woods. Very cool!

Our beds are 8-12 deep. Not really deep, but I find it is quite sufficient for all of your standard garden plants. We also have a veritably endless supply of manure, so the beds get covered in that, sometimes after it's composted and sometimes straight to the bed to sit and age over the winter.

Last year and the year before, our garden was taken over by bindweed. No fun at all. Have to re-do the entire thing, but have a plan for a chicken moat around it and that should prevent bindweed from creeping in. A reclamation project, if you will. Tried doing other beds scattered about, but it was too chaotic over three acres.

It's going to cost a couple hundred for the weed barrier I need, but it's really not optional. Have beds in the greenhouse and do alright with it, but it can't quite cover all of our needs.

Ok. Off to my homework.

Cool thread, Silver Patriot! Appreciate it!
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