10 to the 164th power. Oh oh Mr Darwin, maybe you should have studied science instead of sci-Fy fairy tales?

An analogy of the "precision form" as christians see it: Look at this rain puddle! Isn't it amazing that the water fill every single space and curve in the hole in the ground? This whole was created exactly for this water portion! One more drop and it would spill, but the magic pixies made it perfectly fit for the water portion it holds! Pixies are really great creators!

That's your vision, that's what we read when you "question" science.

you see what you are selling? buy creationism vs evolution.
You did not even grasp that I'm not supporting evolution theory. If someone think Trump is evil than he must support Hillary. You really cannot get outside this tricky paradigme to the point you are parroting it everywhere.

both you and Darwin are right and wrong at certain degrees but still refuse to see the rest if the picture out if the fact that you bought into a cult, and dogma is your science.
You don't want to fibd truth but just reinforce that your cukt in right and the best way to do it is to concentrate on the flaws of the opposite cult.

when you'll get the science on why Darwin was brought to think it's evolution you will see also why you are mislead as well.

but you dont care. each one of your threads are the sanctification of creation without critic sense.

it would be refreshing if you would able to criticize creationism in the same way you do with evolutionism. But you wont, because you are not in a quest for truth. Differently you would had stopped these ossessive threads and start to look for answers.

And another logical fallacy: "I don't understand it, thus its a lie". If you study just a little bit, you'll see how many logical fallacies you commit. That's why we all laugh at you. Sometimes you get into 2 different fallacies in one single phrase. You're an unreasonable man, no wonder your faith is so fervent. Faith and reason are inversely proportional.

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Ironically Mr. Darwin's degree was in Theology.

He did study plenty of science though, unlike the OP who confuses the rather simple concept of improbable with impossible.
Frankly, that's rather stupid.

The odds of a single protein forming by pure chance rather than deliberate intelligent construction by a ribosome are 1 in 10 to 163 power.

I never said that is impossible, sound like the logical explanation, what other options are there?.

Allegedly...

Neither relevant nor, considering your source is creatardic propaganda, reliable.



That sentence doesn't eve make sense.

What IS your argument?
Do you have one?
Do you actually understand your sources?
Or do you just mindlessly spam them, since they confirm your preconceived notion?

You have been here for over a decade arguing against the science, and you ar still UTTERLY ignorant of the science.
You should be embarrassed. Everybody who knows you should be embarrassed.
Your fellow cult-members should be embarrassed because you make them look like idiot.

You are the most counter-productive proselytiser the universe has ever seen...

Jaba I can understand your believing you being intelligently created is propaganda but the odds of just one of our proteins appearing from nothing by chance is math. BTW walked on the moon lately?

Everything is "math" if you go far enough down. Also the chances of a protein forming don't take into account ALL the bio-molecules on Earth, just a single set of them to create a protein, nor do they take into account environmental conditions, selection, and other events that will drastically increase the chances of a protein forming.

Everything has information, information is stored and released as hawking radiation in black holes (at least it should be, there is some math indicating information is destroyed by a black hole.)

Also, DGN, things can happen without a real cause. Virtual particles are, as we know of them now, proof of this.

Means that the chances of it forming are NOT 10^164 but much lower.

Everything is "math" if you go far enough down. Also the chances of a protein forming don't take into account ALL the bio-molecules on Earth, just a single set of them to create a protein, nor do they take into account environmental conditions, selection, and other events that will drastically increase the chances of a protein forming.

Everything has information, information is stored and released as hawking radiation in black holes (at least it should be, there is some math indicating information is destroyed by a black hole.)

Also, DGN, things can happen without a real cause. Virtual particles are, as we know of them now, proof of this.

Same can be said for anyone that studies fairy tales like the bible .

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Everything is "math" if you go far enough down. Also the chances of a protein forming don't take into account ALL the bio-molecules on Earth, just a single set of them to create a protein, nor do they take into account environmental conditions, selection, and other events that will drastically increase the chances of a protein forming.

Everything has information, information is stored and released as hawking radiation in black holes (at least it should be, there is some math indicating information is destroyed by a black hole.)

Also, DGN, things can happen without a real cause. Virtual particles are, as we know of them now, proof of this.

Holy smoking meatballs.

Please enlighten us all about these 'uncaused causes'.

The proof is in the pudding. Cells certainly do exist. And 10 to the 164th power would stump even God wouldn't it?

Just boring now.

"Also, DGN, things can happen without a real cause"
Here's who believes even one single protein formed by chance

Fuck me bro.

I can't wait for the guy to come back and explain away some more uncaused causes.

Evidently not, the atoms that form the stars which form billions of galaxies into the precision form and function of spirals didn't appear and arrange by chance.

No, it was mainly gravity.

Didn't evolve from monkeys or cavemen.
There were 6 or 7 different species of cavemen already in existence when we were created. We were created separate from them by means of genetic manipulation.
Evolution exists on the small scheme of things. Things evolve over time. Species evolve over time. Species do not evolve into completely different and new species though.

Simple fact, yet billions of people on Earth cannot discern this simple fact. There is obviously variation within species, but no possibility of one species evolving into another species.

OMG such a huge number I cant comprehend... fuck numbers that must be fake, obviously it was a dude in a cloud with seriously magical powers, a car battery and some jumper cables... yea that makes sense.

Simple fact, yet billions of people on Earth cannot discern this simple fact. There is obviously variation within species, but no possibility of one species evolving into another species.

Right that is why there is zero transitional fossils, Professor Darwin's hoax is one of the greatest deceptions the world loves and promotes insuring the total meaningless futility of their fleeting existence.

Stupid. A "transitional fossil" is neither here nor there. We need to keep looking for fossils created by living plants and animals from the past, which are simply rare. Do you even know where your great grandfather is buried?