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User ID: 76158953 Canada 01/30/2018 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is he getting the money to buy alcohol and cigarettes every night? Quoting: Alivenz If he can afford those, he can afford to contribute to the household bills. And I agree with the other poster that you should set the 'misled' woman straight about what's actually going on. It sounds like your brother is living in a fantasy land, and I'm sorry, but you're enabling him. Good luck OP! He gets them from the women he talks to, after my husband and I have settled into our area of the house for the night. He lives on our back porch so he has his own door. I can't figure out what woman wouldn't be able to put two and two together...if he's asking them for money for stuff, it seems it would be obvious he has no money. Yeah Woman they get played! To Watch Is To Be Prepared Not Just During The Bad Times But In The Good Times As Well A Good Watchman Never Lets His Or Her Guard Down Never Gives Occasion To The Enemy. Can't Shoot a Gun, Bait a Hook, Bake or Cook, You City Bitch! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 31126728 United States 01/30/2018 05:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hes got to hit rock bottom and want to get help, otherwise he is sadly a lost cause at the moment. He wil lie and manipulate anyone he can to rationalise what he is doing. I know from experience, i personally hit rock bottom over christmas, have ended up in hospotal twice since and have seen how my selfish actions are destroying my loved ones. I have been to see my local alcohol support group today, and will hopefully be starting an in patient detox within the month. Not because i have too, but because ive finally realised i WANT too. Not just for myself but for those who mean a lot to me as well. I wish you and your brother all the best and i hope he realises before he leaves it as late as i did and nearly winds up dead. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73317728 Yeah, you can't fix these people, they have to fix themselves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72300469 United States 01/30/2018 06:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is he getting the money to buy alcohol and cigarettes every night? Quoting: Alivenz If he can afford those, he can afford to contribute to the household bills. And I agree with the other poster that you should set the 'misled' woman straight about what's actually going on. It sounds like your brother is living in a fantasy land, and I'm sorry, but you're enabling him. Good luck OP! He gets them from the women he talks to, after my husband and I have settled into our area of the house for the night. He lives on our back porch so he has his own door. I can't figure out what woman wouldn't be able to put two and two together...if he's asking them for money for stuff, it seems it would be obvious he has no money. 'I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.' Lol… you sound like typical sycophant/flying monkey betraying her husband… imho Are you SAHM (Stay-at-Home Mom)? If yes, be careful - your husband might kick both of you out or just walk out if he finds out you deceived him… |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76125749 United States 01/30/2018 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rehab or throw is drunk ass out. I have had the same problem in the past. Son wouldn't do rehab so out the door. He's now in prison for a few years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71038999 did the same with my stepson. tried to help him get on his feet for years but he would do nothing to help himself. called the cops one night when he went too far and he's been on his own since. lived in the woods for a while and now he's in jail. kicking them to the curb is all a family member can do anymore because you can't have them committed for treatment unless they go voluntarily. even then they can walk out anytime after a few days. even the courts can't make them stay if they have committed no crime. it's not illegal to be an alcoholic or crazy, unfortunately. That's a pretty scummy thing to do. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76125749 United States 01/30/2018 07:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house. Quoting: Spc__ Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him. He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't). I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it. Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense. I don't think I can let him live here anymore. Sit down with him when he's sober and tell him the truth. If that doesn't work...call the police and serve him with an eviction notice. :doitdoit: Really? Why call the police? What would you expect the police to do for your family's problems? |
Spc__
(OP) User ID: 76014135 United States 01/30/2018 07:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is he getting the money to buy alcohol and cigarettes every night? Quoting: Alivenz If he can afford those, he can afford to contribute to the household bills. And I agree with the other poster that you should set the 'misled' woman straight about what's actually going on. It sounds like your brother is living in a fantasy land, and I'm sorry, but you're enabling him. Good luck OP! He gets them from the women he talks to, after my husband and I have settled into our area of the house for the night. He lives on our back porch so he has his own door. I can't figure out what woman wouldn't be able to put two and two together...if he's asking them for money for stuff, it seems it would be obvious he has no money. 'I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.' Lol… you sound like typical sycophant/flying monkey betraying her husband… imho Are you SAHM (Stay-at-Home Mom)? If yes, be careful - your husband might kick both of you out or just walk out if he finds out you deceived him… No, we both work. I work when he is home and vice versa. "Rather than love, than money, than fame, give me truth." |
BRYinTX
User ID: 61595971 United States 01/30/2018 07:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rehab or throw is drunk ass out. I have had the same problem in the past. Son wouldn't do rehab so out the door. He's now in prison for a few years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71038999 did the same with my stepson. tried to help him get on his feet for years but he would do nothing to help himself. called the cops one night when he went too far and he's been on his own since. lived in the woods for a while and now he's in jail. kicking them to the curb is all a family member can do anymore because you can't have them committed for treatment unless they go voluntarily. even then they can walk out anytime after a few days. even the courts can't make them stay if they have committed no crime. it's not illegal to be an alcoholic or crazy, unfortunately. That's a pretty scummy thing to do. says you. live through it then tell me it was scummy. he is 26 years old. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 66624931 Lithuania 01/30/2018 07:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house. Quoting: Spc__ Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him. He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't). I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it. Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense. I don't think I can let him live here anymore. Sheesh, kick his ass to the street and get a restraining order for good measure. What a loser. |
BRYinTX
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76125749 United States 01/30/2018 07:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Rehab or throw is drunk ass out. I have had the same problem in the past. Son wouldn't do rehab so out the door. He's now in prison for a few years. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71038999 did the same with my stepson. tried to help him get on his feet for years but he would do nothing to help himself. called the cops one night when he went too far and he's been on his own since. lived in the woods for a while and now he's in jail. kicking them to the curb is all a family member can do anymore because you can't have them committed for treatment unless they go voluntarily. even then they can walk out anytime after a few days. even the courts can't make them stay if they have committed no crime. it's not illegal to be an alcoholic or crazy, unfortunately. That's a pretty scummy thing to do. says you. live through it then tell me it was scummy. he is 26 years old. Well I'm sure he's in a much better place now that he's out of the house. I'm also sure that criminal record will help him to quit drinking, too. |
BRYinTX
User ID: 61595971 United States 01/30/2018 07:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: BRYinTX did the same with my stepson. tried to help him get on his feet for years but he would do nothing to help himself. called the cops one night when he went too far and he's been on his own since. lived in the woods for a while and now he's in jail. kicking them to the curb is all a family member can do anymore because you can't have them committed for treatment unless they go voluntarily. even then they can walk out anytime after a few days. even the courts can't make them stay if they have committed no crime. it's not illegal to be an alcoholic or crazy, unfortunately. That's a pretty scummy thing to do. says you. live through it then tell me it was scummy. he is 26 years old. Well I'm sure he's in a much better place now that he's out of the house. I'm also sure that criminal record will help him to quit drinking, too. he's had a criminal record since he was 14 that just keeps getting longer and longer. again...you don't know the specifics. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76125749 United States 01/30/2018 07:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house. Quoting: Spc__ Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him. He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't). I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it. Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense. I don't think I can let him live here anymore. Sheesh, kick his ass to the street and get a restraining order for good measure. What a loser. You sound like a very loving and supportive family member? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76125749 United States 01/30/2018 07:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well I'm sure he's in a much better place now that he's out of the house. I'm also sure that criminal record will help him to quit drinking, too. he's had a criminal record since he was 14 that just keeps getting longer and longer. again...you don't know the specifics. Juvenile record seals at 18. No, I don't know the specifics, but turning your back on your son doesn't sound like the right thing to do to me. Your son is drinking/drugging for a reason. Most likely some form of depression or mental disorder. If your son had these problems when he was 14, then why didn't you get him the help he needed then, when it was your responsibility to do so? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76125749 United States 01/30/2018 07:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house. Quoting: Spc__ Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him. He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't). I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it. Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense. I don't think I can let him live here anymore. Sit down with him when he's sober and tell him the truth. If that doesn't work...call the police and serve him with an eviction notice. :doitdoit: Really? Why call the police? What would you expect the police to do for your family's problems? When you throw a drunk stupid fuck out of your house it could get nasty. Cops get called and the next thing you know you have a domestic violence charge on your record barring you from owning firearms. Besides...I think the OP is a female. It's a bad idea to recommend she confront him without some sort of backup. Personally, I wouldn't be involving the police until the situation warranted it, and only as a last resort. If I was a woman and thought the situation could be problematic, I would enlist the help of family members, but most certainly not the police. There won't be any domestic violence charges unless the police show up. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76125749 United States 01/30/2018 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76125749 Well I'm sure he's in a much better place now that he's out of the house. I'm also sure that criminal record will help him to quit drinking, too. he's had a criminal record since he was 14 that just keeps getting longer and longer. again...you don't know the specifics. Juvenile record seals at 18. No, I don't know the specifics, but turning your back on your son doesn't sound like the right thing to do to me. Your son is drinking/drugging for a reason. Most likely some form of depression or mental disorder. If your son had these problems when he was 14, then why didn't you get him the help he needed then, when it was your responsibility to do so? You're a little kumbaya fucktard. LOL. Dumber than a cow pie! probably still a virgin. :jay: Quit hijacking threads with really bad dispositions and shitty advice. I'm not a fan of lazy parenting or shifting the problem onto the public dole by way of the police and legal system. |
Philosopher Fry
User ID: 12343871 United States 01/30/2018 07:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe he doesn't want to live at all. I know, because it runs rampant in my family, that is on the very verge of crumbling. The main source of this dysfunction has actually been the alcohol, and it feels as if we are in its death throws. I refuse to give in to the drink. But watching all the bullshit really puts a spur in your craw. "In the future, everyone in the FUSA will be a warlord for 15 minutes." – Zombie Andy Warhol Be ready for a dumpster-fire 2018, and chuckle quietly if/when you are wrong. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 70273097 United States 01/30/2018 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house. Quoting: Spc__ Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him. He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't). I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it. Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense. I don't think I can let him live here anymore. [link to images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com (secure)] Find a copy somewhere (believe it is an online PDF). Yes it's a children's book but it appears to be a crucial lesson you missed at that age. Bottom line is that as long as you allow freeloaders to mooch off you due to an unwarranted sense of guilt on your part... they will. Do you want a solution, or sympathy? If you want a solution, the answer is obvious, and simple. But painful (more for him than for you). Your hurt will only deepen and become protracted the longer you dally with indecision. |
BRYinTX
User ID: 61595971 United States 01/30/2018 07:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Well I'm sure he's in a much better place now that he's out of the house. I'm also sure that criminal record will help him to quit drinking, too. he's had a criminal record since he was 14 that just keeps getting longer and longer. again...you don't know the specifics. Juvenile record seals at 18. No, I don't know the specifics, but turning your back on your son doesn't sound like the right thing to do to me. Your son is drinking/drugging for a reason. Most likely some form of depression or mental disorder. If your son had these problems when he was 14, then why didn't you get him the help he needed then, when it was your responsibility to do so? he's my step-son...whom i met when he was 19. and a parent cannot force an adult child into any kind of treatment. we tried numerous times...numerous. and he didn't stop committing crimes at 18...he stepped it up. |
Dr. Philco
User ID: 49335043 United States 01/30/2018 07:42 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house. Quoting: Spc__ Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him. He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't). I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it. Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense. I don't think I can let him live here anymore. you should kick d50 out Dont care what you think |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27169178 Canada 01/30/2018 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Maybe he doesn't want to live at all. I know, because it runs rampant in my family, that is on the very verge of crumbling. The main source of this dysfunction has actually been the alcohol, and it feels as if we are in its death throws. I refuse to give in to the drink. But watching all the bullshit really puts a spur in your craw. Quoting: Philosopher Fry My cousin was an alcoholic her entire adult life. She only stopped when she was diagnosed with cancer. Alcoholic and cancer. That was her "life." Also, OP, you SHOULD tell your husband. Who cares about the woman your brother is seeing? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75403762 United States 01/30/2018 07:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry BS not buying it. Women dont supply Cigarettes or booze to a loser living on a porch in the back of the house with no job unless he is a gigolo with a very huge cockatoo. Something does not add up, I think Op supplies the drugs before and now is sick of it but has been getting pissed that there drug expenses have shifted when his unemployment checks stop coming so she and everyone in the house expect it from the op and her partner. Suck up buttercup go to AA or Church with him as a prerequisite to you providing him a home and food and so called compassion that you clearly do not have. I think the key points is he does not watch your kids (fucking nice job mom) because he drinks too much, dont wanna pay 12 bucks a hour for a real one? Major BS I think I seen you on Springer! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72300469 United States 01/30/2018 07:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Where is he getting the money to buy alcohol and cigarettes every night? Quoting: Alivenz If he can afford those, he can afford to contribute to the household bills. And I agree with the other poster that you should set the 'misled' woman straight about what's actually going on. It sounds like your brother is living in a fantasy land, and I'm sorry, but you're enabling him. Good luck OP! He gets them from the women he talks to, after my husband and I have settled into our area of the house for the night. He lives on our back porch so he has his own door. I can't figure out what woman wouldn't be able to put two and two together...if he's asking them for money for stuff, it seems it would be obvious he has no money. 'I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.' Lol… you sound like typical sycophant/flying monkey betraying her husband… imho Are you SAHM (Stay-at-Home Mom)? If yes, be careful - your husband might kick both of you out or just walk out if he finds out you deceived him… No, we both work. I work when he is home and vice versa. I wish you could be SAHM, but why don’t you communicate with your husband if you have time to post here? Nobody wants to read the block of text and this man has definitely better skills in public speaking than me; [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75403762 United States 01/30/2018 07:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Spc__ He gets them from the women he talks to, after my husband and I have settled into our area of the house for the night. He lives on our back porch so he has his own door. I can't figure out what woman wouldn't be able to put two and two together...if he's asking them for money for stuff, it seems it would be obvious he has no money. 'I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.' Lol… you sound like typical sycophant/flying monkey betraying her husband… imho Are you SAHM (Stay-at-Home Mom)? If yes, be careful - your husband might kick both of you out or just walk out if he finds out you deceived him… No, we both work. I work when he is home and vice versa. I wish you could be SAHM, but why don’t you communicate with your husband if you have time to post here? Nobody wants to read the block of text and this man has definitely better skills in public speaking than me; [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] Because they are the original enablers and still are. Hubby must be a very weak man...and she dont work o no no |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 73094652 United States 01/30/2018 08:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sounds like he needs counseling or a intervention maybe your family should confront him all together..... If you are too hard on him he will only get worse and drink more...... Prayer is powerful. Make sure you pray that he quits drinking and loses the taste for alcohol.... God will intervene!!!.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 40546062 United States 01/30/2018 08:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I have experienced this kinda thing, not first hand but by watch my wife's crazy family. I will not allow them to even stay one night with me much less move it... No, I'm not a ass but I have a obligation to keep my family safe and insure peace in my house. I must make sure my kids are not influenced by redneck alcoholic crap! You need to look out for you, your kids and your husband. This is not fair to your husband and kids. Chances are your brother will get drunk, smoke in bed and burn your home down. Or your husband is gonna call BS and kick you both out! This exact situation happened to my wife's mother. Crazy drunk adult grand kids moved in, one week later burnt the house to the ground. Get the drunk out of your house OP. Do it tomorrow! Shame on you for doing this to your husband and kids. Shame on you! Only other option is your house, your rules. No drinking, no smoking, work and rent requirement. Tell your brother you owe your husband this... As soon as you require this of your brother, he will be gone in a few days... Problem solved. You cant help a drunk! |
SaveUSa
User ID: 76089780 United States 01/30/2018 08:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house. Quoting: Spc__ Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him. He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't). I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it. Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense. I don't think I can let him live here anymore. You’re enabling him by allowing him to stay. Tough love. Let him free to reap the results of his chosen lifestyle, and he might just be able to pull himself out of it. Your actions will only perpetuate his demise, and eventually become a risk to you and your children. If not already. Last Edited by SaveUSa on 01/30/2018 08:42 PM Within the surreal depths of "reality" lies the truth. |