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Alcoholic brother

 
Anonymous Coward
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01/30/2018 08:59 PM
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What a dick - tell that lady the truth. He's talking shit about you, talk shit back. Maybe he'll get pissed and move.

And f that lady anyway. What kind of girlfriend has to stick up for her boyfriend that way...involving herself in a family matter. What a cunt.
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'I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.'

Lol… you sound like typical sycophant/flying monkey betraying her husband… imho

Are you SAHM (Stay-at-Home Mom)?
If yes, be careful - your husband might kick both of you out or just walk out if he finds out you deceived him…
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72300469


No, we both work. I work when he is home and vice versa.
 Quoting: Spc__

I wish you could be SAHM, but why don’t you communicate with your husband if you have time to post here?

Nobody wants to read the block of text and this man has definitely better skills in public speaking than me;


[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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Because they are the original enablers and still are. Hubby must be a very weak man...and she dont work o no no

hesright
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Who is THEY here? 1st Engrish grammar puppet…, was this post for me or OP?

Please expand…
Joe in JT
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01/30/2018 09:55 PM
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My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house.

Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him.

He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't).

I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.

Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense.

I don't think I can let him live here anymore.
 Quoting: Spc__


First of all you are a wonderful sister. You already let him stay for two years.

You should convince him to go to AA. You might want to go with him for the first month or so until he can get a sponsor.

Then help him find a little job somewhere and get a small apartment. Find out what benefits he might be eligible for like food stamps. You can go to your local social services center. They have an excellent job finder section there too...with many jobs printed up on the board. Real good city and country jobs that pay real well.

Please don't judge your brother to harshly while he's drunk or hung over. After he's sober for about one month you will see the brother you knew when you were kids. Best of luck to you .hfpeace
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My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house.

Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him.

He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't).

I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.

Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense.

I don't think I can let him live here anymore.
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you should kick d50 out
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YOU SHOULD KICK D50 OUT !!!!!

I just shit my pants laughing !Calln-Bs1
Joe in JT
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01/30/2018 10:17 PM
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WOW! After reading everyone's comments I've come to the conclusion most of you are cold hearted bastards. You would throw your own brother out in the cold....kick him into the curb. His disease is alcoholism. Would you do the same if he had Multiple Sirosis or Lou Geriggs disease? The solution here is to take the brother to AA. Take him by the hand. Tell him no more alcohol in the house. Set up tuff rules. Tough love. But don't ditch the poor guy. Jesus....rant
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01/30/2018 10:23 PM
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Kick him out. Your kids come first.
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01/30/2018 10:27 PM
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WOW! After reading everyone's comments I've come to the conclusion most of you are cold hearted bastards. You would throw your own brother out in the cold....kick him into the curb. His disease is alcoholism. Would you do the same if he had Multiple Sirosis or Lou Geriggs disease? The solution here is to take the brother to AA. Take him by the hand. Tell him no more alcohol in the house. Set up tuff rules. Tough love. But don't ditch the poor guy. Jesus....rant
 Quoting: Joe in JT 75049243


No, it is true to make him go. No more enabling. Alcholics take theirself to AA or they don't go. It doesn't work like that where y ok take them. Addiction is a tier. Sobriety is a tier. Even approached as a disease the person has to want treatment. People refuse cancer treatments too.

When your sanity is on the line? The drunk has to go!

Please don't guilt this person. Their brother has to go. They are AN enabler at this point.
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01/30/2018 10:28 PM
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My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house.

Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him.

He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't).

I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.

Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense.

I don't think I can let him live here anymore.
 Quoting: Spc__


you should kick d50 out
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LOLOLOLOLOOL....
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01/30/2018 10:32 PM
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WOW! After reading everyone's comments I've come to the conclusion most of you are cold hearted bastards. You would throw your own brother out in the cold....kick him into the curb. His disease is alcoholism. Would you do the same if he had Multiple Sirosis or Lou Geriggs disease? The solution here is to take the brother to AA. Take him by the hand. Tell him no more alcohol in the house. Set up tuff rules. Tough love. But don't ditch the poor guy. Jesus....rant
 Quoting: Joe in JT 75049243


Sorry dont go along with the disease theory...You cant just stop a disease. If you have a real disease you cant just stop having it. Alcoholism is a choice my son is an ex alchoholic and he will tell you its not a disease it a choice. when he decided to be sober cause he did not like all the bad crap happening to him he quit drinking. cant do that with cancer...
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01/30/2018 10:33 PM
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Once everyone quits helping him and he hits rock bottom bet he quits
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01/30/2018 10:34 PM
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WOW! After reading everyone's comments I've come to the conclusion most of you are cold hearted bastards. You would throw your own brother out in the cold....kick him into the curb. His disease is alcoholism. Would you do the same if he had Multiple Sirosis or Lou Geriggs disease? The solution here is to take the brother to AA. Take him by the hand. Tell him no more alcohol in the house. Set up tuff rules. Tough love. But don't ditch the poor guy. Jesus....rant
 Quoting: Joe in JT 75049243


Sorry dont go along with the disease theory...You cant just stop a disease. If you have a real disease you cant just stop having it. Alcoholism is a choice my son is an ex alchoholic and he will tell you its not a disease it a choice. when he decided to be sober cause he did not like all the bad crap happening to him he quit drinking. cant do that with cancer...
 Quoting: Southern Man 75098604


THIS^^^

Calling it a disease is a cop-out. Just quit drinking. Yes...I HAVE done it and it took a week to clean up. The rest was just making the right choice.
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Make him angry when he is drunk to the point he gets arrested and he will stay somewhere else. They cant stand people or places that make getting their drunk on uncomfortable. Unplug the fridge. Say it broke. I guarantee they will start crashing somewhere else. I got rid of one by removing the tv's from my house. I stored tyhem and said I had to sell thedm because I needed money. They coujldnt be without tv drunk or especially when hungover. They even complained??? Yet never helped, ate my food, trashed my house, slept on furniture etc. Played radio too loud in car drunk the n had turn tv loud to hear it. I couldn't stand it one more second.
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01/30/2018 10:37 PM
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Where is he getting the money to buy alcohol and cigarettes every night?

If he can afford those, he can afford to contribute to the household bills.

And I agree with the other poster that you should set the 'misled' woman straight about what's actually going on. It sounds like your brother is living in a fantasy land, and I'm sorry, but you're enabling him.

Good luck OP!
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He gets them from the women he talks to, after my husband and I have settled into our area of the house for the night. He lives on our back porch so he has his own door. I can't figure out what woman wouldn't be able to put two and two together...if he's asking them for money for stuff, it seems it would be obvious he has no money.
 Quoting: Spc__


'I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.'

Lol… you sound like typical sycophant/flying monkey betraying her husband… imho

Are you SAHM (Stay-at-Home Mom)?
If yes, be careful - your husband might kick both of you out or just walk out if he finds out you deceived him…
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72300469


No, we both work. I work when he is home and vice versa.
 Quoting: Spc__


Do you have any common goals how to raise your children?
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Also most alcoholics feeet and shoes stink sdo bad that if someone chooses to drink and keep that door you don't even feel sorry forr their stank self.
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Re: Alcoholic brother
WOW! After reading everyone's comments I've come to the conclusion most of you are cold hearted bastards. You would throw your own brother out in the cold....kick him into the curb. His disease is alcoholism. Would you do the same if he had Multiple Sirosis or Lou Geriggs disease? The solution here is to take the brother to AA. Take him by the hand. Tell him no more alcohol in the house. Set up tuff rules. Tough love. But don't ditch the poor guy. Jesus....rant
 Quoting: Joe in JT 75049243


Sorry dont go along with the disease theory...You cant just stop a disease. If you have a real disease you cant just stop having it. Alcoholism is a choice my son is an ex alchoholic and he will tell you its not a disease it a choice. when he decided to be sober cause he did not like all the bad crap happening to him he quit drinking. cant do that with cancer...
 Quoting: Southern Man 75098604


THIS^^^

Calling it a disease is a cop-out. Just quit drinking. Yes...I HAVE done it and it took a week to clean up. The rest was just making the right choice.
 Quoting: BRYinTX


trying clean up without medication is dangerous though, depending on the severity of the drinker. i went 20 hours without a drink the other week and ended up in hospital after having three seizures and nearly biting my tongue in half.
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He must have some redeeming qualities if he can convince women to give him money for alcohol and cigs. It is not a good idea to have a family member living for free with you though...alc or not. He will survive just fine it sounds like, outside of your home.
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Sorry for the tough situation both you and your brother in. I will pray for both of you that something will change. i went through it with a family member and unfortunately it didn't end well. I am sure a lot of people understand exactly the difficult place that your brother has placed you.
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Give the guy a choice, Either dry up or move out.

It is pretty simple.
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My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house.

Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him.

He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't).

I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.

Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense.

I don't think I can let him live here anymore.
 Quoting: Spc__


Your brother is committing slow suicide, you have to decide if you are going to continue to aid him in his success.
FACTS Don't Give a DAMN about your FEELINGS!
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My older brother has lived with me for 2 years. He drinks every night and sleeps all day. I let it slide that he doesn't pay bills or babysit or do anything around the house.

Today a woman he's been talking to messaged me about how I needed to find my own place to live and take care of my own kids because I'm taking advantage of him.

He's been telling her that this is his house (it isn't) and he does all the work (he doesn't) and takes care of the kids all day every day (he doesn't).

I'm not sure what to do. I am infuriated but he has nowhere else to go. He's 45 years old without a job, doesn't know how to cook for himself. I haven't told my husband about the messages because I know he won't stand for it.

Last night he got so drunk he lost his phone and cigarettes. He woke me up, basically calling me a thief, along with a slew of other insulting things that didn't make any sense.

I don't think I can let him live here anymore.
 Quoting: Spc__


Agreed.

And tell that woman you agree something needs to change, & briefly explain the real situation.
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Cock block the poor drunk? You sir are a real piece of shit!

Talk your brother up, maybe she will let him move in.
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Haha! That would work even better!
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He's ill. He needs treatment. See if you can find a live in program he can get into. Maybe you can get your husband and that woman to help you.
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you need to get him off the stupid juice.
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You are very kind

The world needs more people like you.
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Kick his ass out! Really, I speak from the experience of having an alcoholic family member. They will devour your emotions, use you as a resouce and when they have gotten everything you have to give --they will find another person to sponge upon. When you've been consumed, broken and torn apart they will never give you a second thought.
 Quoting: Angryhomo


That goes for all drug addicts and they will lie and lie and lie and justify every single thing they take from you, and turn you into the bad guy so they can be the eternal victim and protect their addiction at all costs.
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Kick his ass out! Really, I speak from the experience of having an alcoholic family member. They will devour your emotions, use you as a resouce and when they have gotten everything you have to give --they will find another person to sponge upon. When you've been consumed, broken and torn apart they will never give you a second thought.
 Quoting: Angryhomo


That goes for all drug addicts and they will lie and lie and lie and justify every single thing they take from you, and turn you into the bad guy so they can be the eternal victim and protect their addiction at all costs.
 Quoting: Vision Thing


addiction is horrid, the poor bloke is going through more shit than many of you ever will. try it, find out for yourselves. its fucking terrible. also alcohol is the only drug that can kill you by going cold turkey from. lock a crack head in a room, he wont die. lock a smack head in a room, he wont die. you lock a piss head in a room he will be dead within 72 hours
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Kick his ass out! Really, I speak from the experience of having an alcoholic family member. They will devour your emotions, use you as a resouce and when they have gotten everything you have to give --they will find another person to sponge upon. When you've been consumed, broken and torn apart they will never give you a second thought.
 Quoting: Angryhomo


That goes for all drug addicts and they will lie and lie and lie and justify every single thing they take from you, and turn you into the bad guy so they can be the eternal victim and protect their addiction at all costs.
 Quoting: Vision Thing


addiction is horrid, the poor bloke is going through more shit than many of you ever will. try it, find out for yourselves. its fucking terrible. also alcohol is the only drug that can kill you by going cold turkey from. lock a crack head in a room, he wont die. lock a smack head in a room, he wont die. you lock a piss head in a room he will be dead within 72 hours
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How to break it to him so he doesn't break stuff on the way out and steal your stuff (all alcoholics steal!) :

Brother, we need to talk. I'm going to move you out immediately. If there's no place you have to go then I am going to drop you off at (insert place here).
I hope you will go to AA and get some help, there are meetings at (time) (place) and you can call (number) to get a ride. There is also a rehab location at (address).
Pack your stuff, we are leaving NOW, or I can box it up and deliver it to you at a later time.

Then write all that down and give him a copy.
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How to break it to him so he doesn't break stuff on the way out and steal your stuff (all alcoholics steal!) :

Brother, we need to talk. I'm going to move you out immediately. If there's no place you have to go then I am going to drop you off at (insert place here).
I hope you will go to AA and get some help, there are meetings at (time) (place) and you can call (number) to get a ride. There is also a rehab location at (address).
Pack your stuff, we are leaving NOW, or I can box it up and deliver it to you at a later time.

Then write all that down and give him a copy.
 Quoting: MissCleo


Fuck AA they are all religious nut jobs. Trust me, i know. To quit drink you have to WANT to quit drink. If he has become physically dependent, then he will need medication because alcohol withdrawal can and will cause serious medical issues or kill him. If he is not ready to quit yet, give him time and try sort him out with a place to crash elsewhere. If he cant be bothered about getting help, then he aint ready.
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hf
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Kick his ass out! Really, I speak from the experience of having an alcoholic family member. They will devour your emotions, use you as a resouce and when they have gotten everything you have to give --they will find another person to sponge upon. When you've been consumed, broken and torn apart they will never give you a second thought.
 Quoting: Angryhomo


That goes for all drug addicts and they will lie and lie and lie and justify every single thing they take from you, and turn you into the bad guy so they can be the eternal victim and protect their addiction at all costs.
 Quoting: Vision Thing


addiction is horrid, the poor bloke is going through more shit than many of you ever will. try it, find out for yourselves. its fucking terrible. also alcohol is the only drug that can kill you by going cold turkey from. lock a crack head in a room, he wont die. lock a smack head in a room, he wont die. you lock a piss head in a room he will be dead within 72 hours
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