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How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?

 
voiceinthewild
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How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?
1) There is no pre-tribulation rapture.
-We meet Jesus in the clouds upon his return and he doesn't return until he comes to overthrow the beast of revelation (the "antichrist") and set up his millennial reign.
-Jesus told us time and again to prepare for tribulation. Why would he tell us to prepare for trials, tribulations, and persecution if he was going to deliver us from those things?


2) We don't die and go to heaven or "hell" in a spirit form.
-We die and go to "sleep". We rest in death until our resurrection.
-Everyone will be resurrected. Some to eternal life, some to eternal death.


3) There is no such thing as eternal torment in a place called "hell."
-Those who are condemned will be resurrected for judgment and will be cast alive into the lake of fire and will be destroyed forever (the second death.)
-Eternal life is a gift from Jesus Christ. Eternal torment denotes eternal life (even if it is suffering), which means the condemned also have eternal life.
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Re: How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?
False.
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Re: How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?
Thread: What is The Purpose of the Bible's End Times Tribulation?
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Re: How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?
How do you resurrect after decomposing?

What if you were cremated?
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Re: How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?
There is no place for the Church of Believers to be in the Tribulation nor does Revelation mention them in the Tribulation.
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Re: How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?
Why did Jesus Christ die?

So you could do what?
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01/31/2018 10:45 AM
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Re: How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?
You are correct on all 3 points. I have a PhD in theology for all it matters.
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Re: How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?
You're gonna do what?

You're gonna prove what?


You do it and show it and prove it now..
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Re: How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?
#2 and #3 are wrong.

you guys are sounding like the pharisees touting your phd in theology..
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Re: How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?
The Second Coming you describe contains no element of "Like a thief in the night". Even the Antichrist will be waiting at Armageddon to do battle with Jesus Christ at the second coming and no one will be surprised when Jesus appears.

The "surprise" pre-tribulation appearance of Jesus Christ is the only thing that works to ensure what He told His followers - Watch I tell you for you know not what hour the master cometh.
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Re: How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?
The Second Coming you describe contains no element of "Like a thief in the night". Even the Antichrist will be waiting at Armageddon to do battle with Jesus Christ at the second coming and no one will be surprised when Jesus appears.

The "surprise" pre-tribulation appearance of Jesus Christ is the only thing that works to ensure what He told His followers - Watch I tell you for you know not what hour the master cometh.
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"LIKE" a thief in the night.

You know not what "HOUR"...

But He gave us great discourses and Revelation on all the signs of the times preceding his return and those things that will take place at his return.
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Re: How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?
#2 and #3 are wrong.

you guys are sounding like the pharisees touting your phd in theology..
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Are you certain I'm wrong? Are you 100% certain I'm wrong?

Think about how you answer given your judgement of how I'm "sounding like a pharisee in touting my phd in theology."
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Re: How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?
You are correct on all 3 points. I have a PhD in theology for all it matters.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75360815


Does your PhD make you an equal to the other PhD's that disagree with your position and the PhD's that believe that there is no God?

If yes, your opinion is duly noted.


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Re: How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?
OP, totally agree with point 1) and 2), still don't know about 3), even though you seem to be right as well for 3), (still not sure 100%)

And by the way your thread got 5* from me!
hf
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Re: How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?
OP, totally agree with point 1) and 2), still don't know about 3), even though you seem to be right as well for 3), (still not sure 100%)

And by the way your thread got 5* from me!
hf
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These things should preoccupy us not SOTU and other lesser and earthly things!
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Re: How many Christian scholars of eschatology agree with me?
OP, totally agree with point 1) and 2), still don't know about 3), even though you seem to be right as well for 3), (still not sure 100%)

And by the way your thread got 5* from me!
hf
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Thank you. God bless you brother (or sister).





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