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For a move to Canada with small family ... What's the score re - rent, jobs, lifestyle, weather, n guns (lol)

 
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I'd bet you a house that land can be MUCH cheaper in Canada than in NZ.

The more remote; the cheaper and easier you could acquire it.
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I was talking about land in Tasmania, not NZ, but you are right in saying that land tends to be cheaper the more remote from civilization it is. That is why I suggested Northern Tasmania, because it has easy access to cities such as Melbourne and Sydney, but it is also remote because it is an island.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Tas - 68k square kilometers total.

Canada - 9.9 million square kilometers.

It might be cheap now; but Canada will stay cheaper for longer. We probably have more fresh water too.
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Canada: Peoplekind

Australia: People
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Lol yeah. Thanks Trudope. You should probably add deadly snakes and insects to that list for Aus though.
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I was talking about land in Tasmania, not NZ, but you are right in saying that land tends to be cheaper the more remote from civilization it is. That is why I suggested Northern Tasmania, because it has easy access to cities such as Melbourne and Sydney, but it is also remote because it is an island.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Tas - 68k square kilometers total.

Canada - 9.9 million square kilometers.

It might be cheap now; but Canada will stay cheaper for longer. We probably have more fresh water too.
 Quoting: SocialEnigma 74927374



Canada: Peoplekind

Australia: People
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


I had to look that up lol
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so your a white male i would choose somewhere else
your wife will be fine here she will have what we call special rights as a female
she can commit any crimes she likes and will get a one tenth sentence if that plus she would be an immigrant so even less of a sentence
you are probable use to being the head of your household forget about that she is the new boss women are in charge of all sexual familial and monetary arraignments
you as a white male or as canadians refer to them as the taxpayers will be considered a half human or second class citizen
if your wife is unhappy with you she will take half of anything you ever saw or owned and you will only be able to see your children every other weekend but you will be busy working anyway

if you have the slightest problem with any of that the cuckstone police will beat you about the head till you agree or they will throw you in jail till you do
other than that welcome to the gynocracy youll get used to having no rights
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Think twice about moving to a colder country. I should know!

Wouldn't Australia/NZ be more appealing?
 Quoting: Tess.


Hiya Tess, yeah i love the cold lol, and daughter also i reckon but wife not so much.

Aus i like but i REALLY hate the heat mate lol.

Maybe NZ is a good compromise? Will look at it hf

ps - is Ireland that cold?
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Ireland isn't freezing, but it is cold and never stops raining. The constant damp gets into your bones.
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your happy perfect wife will be westernized it takes 6 months to 3 years max good luck
your gonna need it
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I was talking about land in Tasmania, not NZ, but you are right in saying that land tends to be cheaper the more remote from civilization it is. That is why I suggested Northern Tasmania, because it has easy access to cities such as Melbourne and Sydney, but it is also remote because it is an island.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Tas - 68k square kilometers total.

Canada - 9.9 million square kilometers.

It might be cheap now; but Canada will stay cheaper for longer. We probably have more fresh water too.
 Quoting: SocialEnigma 74927374



Canada: Peoplekind

Australia: People
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Lol yeah. Thanks Trudope. You should probably add deadly snakes and insects to that list for Aus though.
 Quoting: SocialEnigma 74927374



Yeah, I agree that there are plenty of crocodiles, venomous snakes and spiders, but that is on the main island. I believe that there are a couple of venomous snakes in Tasmania, but no crocs or deadly spiders. You sound very patriotic, fair enough, but I am not trying to have a Canada versus Australia argument with you. I am as super critical of Australia as I am of whatever country I live in. I am the same age as the OP and I have lived and worked in plenty of countries (not including Canada), for half of my life. I am just wanting to show another option to the OP that is much cheaper than Canada, and probably an option that he has not considered.
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Think twice about moving to a colder country. I should know!

Wouldn't Australia/NZ be more appealing?
 Quoting: Tess.


Hiya Tess, yeah i love the cold lol, and daughter also i reckon but wife not so much.

Aus i like but i REALLY hate the heat mate lol.

Maybe NZ is a good compromise? Will look at it hf

ps - is Ireland that cold?
 Quoting: curry nosher


Ireland isn't freezing, but it is cold and never stops raining. The constant damp gets into your bones.
 Quoting: Tess.


Tess, Ireland is cold but it is not cold enough to cancel out all of the good things about the country.

OP, I hate the heat as well, that is why I moved to TAS.
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Tas - 68k square kilometers total.

Canada - 9.9 million square kilometers.

It might be cheap now; but Canada will stay cheaper for longer. We probably have more fresh water too.
 Quoting: SocialEnigma 74927374



Canada: Peoplekind

Australia: People
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Lol yeah. Thanks Trudope. You should probably add deadly snakes and insects to that list for Aus though.
 Quoting: SocialEnigma 74927374



Yeah, I agree that there are plenty of crocodiles, venomous snakes and spiders, but that is on the main island. I believe that there are a couple of venomous snakes in Tasmania, but no crocs or deadly spiders. You sound very patriotic, fair enough, but I am not trying to have a Canada versus Australia argument with you. I am as super critical of Australia as I am of whatever country I live in. I am the same age as the OP and I have lived and worked in plenty of countries (not including Canada), for half of my life. I am just wanting to show another option to the OP that is much cheaper than Canada, and probably an option that he has not considered.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Eh; not super patriotic. But my blood has been here longer than the governments. So maybe it's just bias.

I started looking up Tasmania; seems like a nice place.
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Canada sucks stay away, 50k is not even close to enough.
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Think twice about moving to a colder country. I should know!

Wouldn't Australia/NZ be more appealing?
 Quoting: Tess.


Hiya Tess, yeah i love the cold lol, and daughter also i reckon but wife not so much.

Aus i like but i REALLY hate the heat mate lol.

Maybe NZ is a good compromise? Will look at it hf

ps - is Ireland that cold?
 Quoting: curry nosher


Ireland isn't freezing, but it is cold and never stops raining. The constant damp gets into your bones.
 Quoting: Tess.


Tess, Ireland is cold but it is not cold enough to cancel out all of the good things about the country.

OP, I hate the heat as well, that is why I moved to TAS.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


I know, that's why I stay. But for someone moving from such a hot climate I think it'd be too much.
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Canada is becoming a third world shithole. Also, if you're not Muslim or black you will be given nothing and treated like a second class citizen.
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For you and your family $50k would be just barely above poverty level in Canada.
30% goes to taxes right off the bat and here in Ontario you pay another 13% sales tax when you buy anything.
And if you are not Muslim good luck getting in.
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Canada: Peoplekind

Australia: People
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Lol yeah. Thanks Trudope. You should probably add deadly snakes and insects to that list for Aus though.
 Quoting: SocialEnigma 74927374



Yeah, I agree that there are plenty of crocodiles, venomous snakes and spiders, but that is on the main island. I believe that there are a couple of venomous snakes in Tasmania, but no crocs or deadly spiders. You sound very patriotic, fair enough, but I am not trying to have a Canada versus Australia argument with you. I am as super critical of Australia as I am of whatever country I live in. I am the same age as the OP and I have lived and worked in plenty of countries (not including Canada), for half of my life. I am just wanting to show another option to the OP that is much cheaper than Canada, and probably an option that he has not considered.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Eh; not super patriotic. But my blood has been here longer than the governments. So maybe it's just bias.

I started looking up Tasmania; seems like a nice place.
 Quoting: SocialEnigma 74927374


About 20 years ago I was determined that I was going to end up living in Canada. Life interrupted that idea and I ended up elsewhere. Still love the rugged beauty of the land, but as with most western nations, I believe that government social engineering is killing of people who hold the land in their blood.
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So what can i do? Is it even possible? Can say $50k Canadian make a good life? Can i own land? Can i get a loan etc ...

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For a Certified Trades person in Canada...the big buck are O&G in northern Alberta.

50k/yr?...Canadian Funds?...with a family?...no way.
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Tas - 68k square kilometers total.

Canada - 9.9 million square kilometers.

It might be cheap now; but Canada will stay cheaper for longer. We probably have more fresh water too.
 Quoting: SocialEnigma 74927374



Canada: Peoplekind

Australia: People
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


I had to look that up lol
 Quoting: curry nosher

so your a white male i would choose somewhere else
your wife will be fine here she will have what we call special rights as a female
she can commit any crimes she likes and will get a one tenth sentence if that plus she would be an immigrant so even less of a sentence
you are probable use to being the head of your household forget about that she is the new boss women are in charge of all sexual familial and monetary arraignments
you as a white male or as canadians refer to them as the taxpayers will be considered a half human or second class citizen
if your wife is unhappy with you she will take half of anything you ever saw or owned and you will only be able to see your children every other weekend but you will be busy working anyway

if you have the slightest problem with any of that the cuckstone police will beat you about the head till you agree or they will throw you in jail till you do
other than that welcome to the gynocracy youll get used to having no rights
 Quoting: dean007


This is the truth.
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My advice would be to consider Ireland FWIW.
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Think twice about moving to a colder country. I should know!

Wouldn't Australia/NZ be more appealing?
 Quoting: Tess.


Hiya Tess, yeah i love the cold lol, and daughter also i reckon but wife not so much.

Aus i like but i REALLY hate the heat mate lol.

Maybe NZ is a good compromise? Will look at it hf

ps - is Ireland that cold?
 Quoting: curry nosher


Ireland isn't freezing, but it is cold and never stops raining. The constant damp gets into your bones.
 Quoting: Tess.


Yeah i know that one mate, last few yrs in UK i did with no C heating and was a bummer tbh but weirdly same temp as here inside, see your breath stuff but dry here and damp there so was worse.
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your happy perfect wife will be westernized it takes 6 months to 3 years max good luck
your gonna need it
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Mate, we are good... I could explain but i shouldn't need to so no worries hf
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Moved out of my town years ago because there was no work. Tried going back a few times over the years but the job always dries up and I end up back in Hongcouver. Now it's to the point that even a $20 an hour job won't get you into a nice neighborhood, everyone I know is struggling, businesses going under because they can't afford the leases and property taxes.
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Moved out of my town years ago because there was no work. Tried going back a few times over the years but the job always dries up and I end up back in Hongcouver. Now it's to the point that even a $20 an hour job won't get you into a nice neighborhood, everyone I know is struggling, businesses going under because they can't afford the leases and property taxes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30776013


That sounds exactly like London. All my family have had to move out to the suburbs, which are still pretty expensive. But in London itself you have million pound houses being lived in rent free by immigrants.

Makes my blood boil. I could never go back, I'd end up in jail for assault or murder.
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Tas - 68k square kilometers total.

Canada - 9.9 million square kilometers.

It might be cheap now; but Canada will stay cheaper for longer. We probably have more fresh water too.
 Quoting: SocialEnigma 74927374



Canada: Peoplekind

Australia: People
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Lol yeah. Thanks Trudope. You should probably add deadly snakes and insects to that list for Aus though.
 Quoting: SocialEnigma 74927374



Yeah, I agree that there are plenty of crocodiles, venomous snakes and spiders, but that is on the main island. I believe that there are a couple of venomous snakes in Tasmania, but no crocs or deadly spiders. You sound very patriotic, fair enough, but I am not trying to have a Canada versus Australia argument with you. I am as super critical of Australia as I am of whatever country I live in. I am the same age as the OP and I have lived and worked in plenty of countries (not including Canada), for half of my life. I am just wanting to show another option to the OP that is much cheaper than Canada, and probably an option that he has not considered.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


And i REALLY appreciate that from both of you hf

Fwiw i just got off the blower with the old man and he said much the same, go Aus way. Then skype to mum and she wants us in Uk lol but then it's all about my daughter really for mum. Probably be better in Aus for the missus being used to the warm etc and she did say Aus rather than Canada.... So much for weekend boarding lol.

Glad their are no crocs there cos they are pretty much the only thing i am truly scared of. Weird but any animal like big cats n snakes i dont feel scared off (we have Leopards coming and taking puppies etc) but crocs... nah man!

Anyway guys thanks for the advice, lots to ponder and will update as and when hf
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Canada sucks stay away, 50k is not even close to enough.
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Oh, ok bummer i guess, 20k is non taxable and 35k from Canada income but sounds expensive tbh?
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Canada is becoming a third world shithole. Also, if you're not Muslim or black you will be given nothing and treated like a second class citizen.
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Yeah used to that lol, but is shit if you want work etc cos overlooked for cheap labour?

Last time i tried to get UK work was with an agency and they refused to take me on cos i had been out of work for more than 6 months.... WHILE in the reception they were filling out the forms for new off the boat Afghans that didnt speak a word of English and it was pitiful to watch the interaction while i walked out the door having been denied access to the very form being filled out on there part!

That is what the UK has become.....
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Your age is fine. But if you are a white male, it will be very hard for you to find a job.

Ever since trudope became PM, he has ruined everything. The mass immigration has made it where jobs are lost to the migrants who are rapidly being hired due to the benefits employers get for hiring them.
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Moved out of my town years ago because there was no work. Tried going back a few times over the years but the job always dries up and I end up back in Hongcouver. Now it's to the point that even a $20 an hour job won't get you into a nice neighborhood, everyone I know is struggling, businesses going under because they can't afford the leases and property taxes.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 30776013


That sounds exactly like London. All my family have had to move out to the suburbs, which are still pretty expensive. But in London itself you have million pound houses being lived in rent free by immigrants.

Makes my blood boil. I could never go back, I'd end up in jail for assault or murder.
 Quoting: Tess.


Yeah it's crackers Tess!

Two of my sisters live in London and both are doing very well career wise and oblivious to this kind of crap.

Funny, i was on the other end of the scale when in London and staying in Centerpoint and 91 Dean st when not on the st.... long time ago though lol.

You sound like you are better off where you are tbh hf
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Your age is fine. But if you are a white male, it will be very hard for you to find a job.

Ever since trudope became PM, he has ruined everything. The mass immigration has made it where jobs are lost to the migrants who are rapidly being hired due to the benefits employers get for hiring them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76224969


Sounds like the UK then, no jobs for older people unless very specific skillsets, otherwise fucked and no chance of a career change at this age even if qualified?

One thing i have is health and safety qualifications which when i was working was always an older guy?
Maybe that is still good?
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Lol yeah. Thanks Trudope. You should probably add deadly snakes and insects to that list for Aus though.
 Quoting: SocialEnigma 74927374



Yeah, I agree that there are plenty of crocodiles, venomous snakes and spiders, but that is on the main island. I believe that there are a couple of venomous snakes in Tasmania, but no crocs or deadly spiders. You sound very patriotic, fair enough, but I am not trying to have a Canada versus Australia argument with you. I am as super critical of Australia as I am of whatever country I live in. I am the same age as the OP and I have lived and worked in plenty of countries (not including Canada), for half of my life. I am just wanting to show another option to the OP that is much cheaper than Canada, and probably an option that he has not considered.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Eh; not super patriotic. But my blood has been here longer than the governments. So maybe it's just bias.

I started looking up Tasmania; seems like a nice place.
 Quoting: SocialEnigma 74927374


About 20 years ago I was determined that I was going to end up living in Canada. Life interrupted that idea and I ended up elsewhere. Still love the rugged beauty of the land, but as with most western nations, I believe that government social engineering is killing of people who hold the land in their blood.
 Quoting: Sutton Coldfield


Also known as "Colonialism".
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As a Brit you should move to Bermuda. No taxes. Commonwealth so you should be able to land a job
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Canada sucks stay away, 50k is not even close to enough.
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Oh, ok bummer i guess, 20k is non taxable and 35k from Canada income but sounds expensive tbh?
 Quoting: curry nosher


That's not uniform across Canada. And then there's tax brackets. Alberta has the lowest taxes; and the territories are all lower than the rest of the provinces too.

As for people not hiring older white males. That's probably culture and age bias. Unless you're willing to get back into your trade of experience; a lot of employers would rather take the chance of training up a much younger person than an older one.
It's pretty much always been that way (Master/Apprentice) though.

I mean at my local McDonalds there's like 4 people from the UK working there and they are all Caucasian.

50k for a family of 4 might get a little tight at times; but you could swing it. Especially if you live out in the country instead of a city like I was saying earlier.

We have a lot of colored immigrants lately; but it's not closed off to whites lol.
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Immigrating to Canada is no easy task, we have some pretty robust immigration laws!

It's a good place to live, and you could live in the Rockies if you wanted to remain in a familiar environment heh

50k$ Canadian is alright, for a single person, in a big city, well at least the nicer parts of it. You can technically by land and a tinyhome kind of place, perhaps.. typically it's more like 300 to 600 thousand for a basic house, depending.. more like 1 million in Vancouver lol
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You have not indicated that you have any assets or savings only a "pension" but no clear indication of how much that actually is a month...at 51 You shouldn't even need a mortgage at 51 !!

As things stand at the moment you do not qualify to immigrate to Canada as a "skilled worker", as an entrepreneur or as a refugee.

TBH Your wife has better chance applying and a Nepalese Refugee and dragging you along with her. Make certain she gets a direct flight....or transits properly.

No money, no means to support yourself and your family. I am assuming your spouse has few marketable skills.

You cannot/will not work in the industry where you have demonstrable experience that would be considered to be an asset in the resource areas of the country. What do you plan on doing?

Your best bet is to go somewhere in S. America witha good USA?UK expat community where your pension may stretch enough to provide a decent/comfortable lifestyle until you can sort out things financially and you have access to "4 seasons" to play in. Patagonia, Ecuador, Chile. Panama even...

This website is useful, if not precise, when looking how far your pension funds will go. I'm certain you can google immigration to Canada, average salaries and our basic income and sales tax rates.


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