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Larry D. Croc

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02/23/2018 09:57 PM

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Case in point for gun safety.

Was just over at my wife's grandparents' house. Turns out he has a 10/22, so I fired a few shots. Nice gun.

Anyway, he was showing off a couple of pistols he has, a 380 and a 9mm.

For some God-only-knows reason, he chambered a round into the 9, ejected it, forgot the loaded clip was still in, and pulled the trigger. Gun goes off right there in his room, me standing beside him, my daughter in the other room.

Thankfully no one was hurt.

Don't do that.

UPDATE: The bullet hit a 1-inch water pipe. The basement is flooding. I'm heading over to help carry up buckets of water.
 Quoting: The Original Mind


Always, Always, Always treat every gun like it's loaded. Even if you have to check it a dozen times. It's lucky Gramps didn't kill someone. Luck doesn't always appear.

If you want to get along with the gunnies here, never refer to the magazine as a "clip".
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Yeah, that's solid advice.

So what's the difference between a magazine and a clip?
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A magazine is a "container" into which shells are loaded. When you see a detective on tv push a button and a metal thing falls from the base of his pistol and he then pushes another, identical advice, this one loaded with more shells, into the base of the pistol and uses his palm to push up and "seat it" in the pistol, that's a magazine.

A clip is a much smaller piece of metal, typically, that holds shells in a configuration that allows them to be loaded into the magazine; most commonly but not exclusively a rifle.

The SKS mentioned earlier, normally has a fixed magazine and the user carries extra rounds on 'stripper clips' which, once positioned properly over the magazine can, with finger pressure, be 'stripped' from the clip into the magazine so the rifle is again ready to be fired.

Idiots refer to magazines as "clips", it's a sign of stupidity and disrespect to the firearm.
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Case in point for gun safety.

Was just over at my wife's grandparents' house. Turns out he has a 10/22, so I fired a few shots. Nice gun.

Anyway, he was showing off a couple of pistols he has, a 380 and a 9mm.

For some God-only-knows reason, he chambered a round into the 9, ejected it, forgot the loaded clip was still in, and pulled the trigger. Gun goes off right there in his room, me standing beside him, my daughter in the other room.

Thankfully no one was hurt.

Don't do that.

UPDATE: The bullet hit a 1-inch water pipe. The basement is flooding. I'm heading over to help carry up buckets of water.
 Quoting: The Original Mind


Oh no!
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You take the cartridges from a clip and then load them into your magazine. Military ammo comes on a clip when you're loading your M16 mags
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The M1 Garand rifle is actually directly loaded using clips.

The M1A is an upgraded version that is magazine fed.

If you google these two rifles, you will see what the difference between a clip and magazine are.
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You take the cartridges from a clip and then load them into your magazine. Military ammo comes on a clip when you're loading your M16 mags
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The M1 Garand rifle is actually directly loaded using clips.

The M1A is an upgraded version that is magazine fed.

If you google these two rifles, you will see what the difference between a clip and magazine are.
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The Garand has an internal magazine that is loaded by clips.

The M1A has a removable magazine that when installed can also be loaded by clips.

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You take the cartridges from a clip and then load them into your magazine. Military ammo comes on a clip when you're loading your M16 mags
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Kamala Harris is not a Natural Born Citizen. She's illegally running.

Used by the Founders...
Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives”
reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to
its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in
the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by
the children of the citizens
, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all
their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel

Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day...
America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments...
1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year.
2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges.
3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set.
4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit.

Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates.

Democrats are a WMD, literally.

Let Justice Be Done Though The Heavens Fall.
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Normally I don’t post to threads like this but I thought what the heck.

My advice comes from 25 years shooting as a uspsa, 3 gun, sheriff deputy, and now firearm trainer for snipers.

Get a Glock 19, put xs big dot sites on it, buy an incog holster and mag holder, get an soe gun belt, 5 magazines and 1 k rounds. Then go to your local range and take a few small classes that don’t cost much.

Master this.
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Normally I don’t post to threads like this but I thought what the heck.

My advice comes from 25 years shooting as a uspsa, 3 gun, sheriff deputy, and now firearm trainer for snipers.

Get a Glock 19, put xs big dot sites on it, buy an incog holster and mag holder, get an soe gun belt, 5 magazines and 1 k rounds. Then go to your local range and take a few small classes that don’t cost much.

Master this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64931238


For the pistol part of your arsenal, OP, this is very sound advice.
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First question. I've seen people recommending a 308 bolt action rifle for training. Why that gun? How can I tell a good 308 from a bad 308?
 Quoting: The Original Mind


Price really. These weapons operate at high pressures and exert a lot of force onto the moving parts. Tool Steele is not cheap and having MPI inspected parts insures there are no cracks from the forging or tooling process. Palmetto state armory may b the only exception to the rule as you can get quality parts and weapons for 10-15% less than the "name brand" manufacturer.

Ammo is just as important. Find what ammo fits your needs and practice with cheaper ammo with the same specs. Tulammo is a good practice round but very dirty.
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If your new to guns and maybe have weak hands for whatever reason, take a look at the new M&P Shield 380 Easy. Its very easy to rack the slide and has a regular safety as well as a grip safety. Very little recoil as well.
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Jesus no! 380 is a crap round and a terrible first gun. The damage a 380 does is about as practical as attacking with a toothpick. 9mm is the smallest caliber anyone should carry. Though the projectile is the same the powder charge makes all the difference. It's no different than a .40 vs 10mm only .40 will rock your world when hit.
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Normally I don’t post to threads like this but I thought what the heck.

My advice comes from 25 years shooting as a uspsa, 3 gun, sheriff deputy, and now firearm trainer for snipers.

Get a Glock 19, put xs big dot sites on it, buy an incog holster and mag holder, get an soe gun belt, 5 magazines and 1 k rounds. Then go to your local range and take a few small classes that don’t cost much.

Master this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64931238


Smith and Wesson m&p sheild .40 performance center edition add a tlr 6 weapons light and laser with a tulster IWB holster and get you concealed carry permit. Practice drawing and getting on target when you have spare time (no ammo needed) and dry fire the piss out of it keeping focus on how your front sight moves. Learn to keep it steady throughout the pull of the trigger. Then do the same at the range(with ammo) you will be proficient in no time.
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Also OP welcome to your new addiction. Hoe you got money to spare cause this spit ain't cheap.
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Normally I don’t post to threads like this but I thought what the heck.

My advice comes from 25 years shooting as a uspsa, 3 gun, sheriff deputy, and now firearm trainer for snipers.

Get a Glock 19, put xs big dot sites on it, buy an incog holster and mag holder, get an soe gun belt, 5 magazines and 1 k rounds. Then go to your local range and take a few small classes that don’t cost much.

Master this.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64931238


I don't particularly endorse any specific firearm, as choices of firearms are really up to the individual. That being said, I can say that the Glock 19 is a good choice. Glocks are well constructed and can put a multitude of rounds downrange with very few or no failures.

Should anyone choose to select that particular firearm, I heartily recommend spending time at the range to become familiar with it. It is not only important to become familiar with the characteristics and behavior of the firearm, but it is also fun! I always like to challenge myself to achieve the best shot groups during every range adventure.
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