No, working is NOT a normal human activity. It is a religious one. | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78015124 12/03/2019 01:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Animals only "work" as much as is needed each day to survive. That includes humans closest ancestors, the apes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12165082 Obsessing about "work" and working overlong hours everyday only really came about as religions starting preaching about how great it is. The religious "leader" con men needed others to overwork so they could be fooled into giving extra food to "god." As today, religious "leaders" really provide no tangible benefit other than just hypocritically lecturing others so they needed others to agree to feed them. Many of the few remaining self sustaining primitive tribes still adhere to this philosophy as well. They have zero stress because they only do enough to get by. Oh dear you're one lost individual. Keep trying to reassure yourself that you're correct and everyone else is wrong. Just because you say they've zero stress doesn't make it true. What's stopping you from living like the Amish? Ever think that it's just lazy jealousy that is your problem? Because it obviously is. The Amish are also hypocritical religious scammers. Religions are a lying scourge on humanity that are dominated by con men. amish = incest |
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User ID: 78003852 United States 12/03/2019 01:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Work is requisite even in atheistic societies so it's more of a social construct than a religious one. I do agree we obsess over work to an unhealthy point when we should spend more time enjoying the moment with family and friends. Gen. John B Gordon and Gen. Nathan Bedford Forrest were the finest citizen-soldiers birthed in America. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78221405 United States 12/03/2019 02:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Animals only "work" as much as is needed each day to survive. That includes humans closest ancestors, the apes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12165082 Obsessing about "work" and working overlong hours everyday only really came about as religions starting preaching about how great it is. The religious "leader" con men needed others to overwork so they could be fooled into giving extra food to "god." As today, religious "leaders" really provide no tangible benefit other than just hypocritically lecturing others so they needed others to agree to feed them. Many of the few remaining self sustaining primitive tribes still adhere to this philosophy as well. They have zero stress because they only do enough to get by. Actually, that is true. Religions/cults have been a curse on humanity for thousands of years. They serve no real purpose other than to incite hatred of other religions who want to take away their followers and "donations." This. And religions are the source of most wars in human history. Even "political" wars were really just clashes of cultures based on different religions. True. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78221405 United States 12/03/2019 02:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Even my cat used to work, OP. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37151107 She would be waiting at the door every morning for me to let her outside, eager to ensure that her territorial rubbings from the day before were still there. She expanded her territory daily, going further and further from her yard. During the day, she would only come home to eat and use the litter box. Then at nightfall, she'd come home and sleep like a log until the next morning. She was a hard worker and she was a CAT. When you say that animals only work enough to suit their needs, you obviously weren't talking about my cat. And humans aren't animals, OP. You may be lazy and unambitious, but society wasn't built by lazy and unambitious people. I hope some day when you grow up and actually have an informed opinion to share with others, you'll appreciate not only the value of work but the people who do the work. I am not OP of either of these threads but those OPs have more brains and common sense than you could ever dream of. It takes brains to actually think for yourself, it takes none to blindly follow ancient documents and pay con men. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78221405 United States 12/03/2019 02:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Animals only "work" as much as is needed each day to survive. That includes humans closest ancestors, the apes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12165082 Obsessing about "work" and working overlong hours everyday only really came about as religions starting preaching about how great it is. The religious "leader" con men needed others to overwork so they could be fooled into giving extra food to "god." As today, religious "leaders" really provide no tangible benefit other than just hypocritically lecturing others so they needed others to agree to feed them. Many of the few remaining self sustaining primitive tribes still adhere to this philosophy as well. They have zero stress because they only do enough to get by. "Natural laws" were eventually overridden by "religious laws" OP. That was the beginning of the stress filled world of today. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 71975244 United Kingdom 12/03/2019 02:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Working for others is the biggest cause of human misery that there is. Is it any wonder we drug ourselves with various substances both legal and illegal after being 'locked up' for 8 hours a day? We drug ourselves to numb the pain of being a slave. |
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User ID: 77541286 Canada 12/03/2019 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Working is for chumps who need to do it for material gains and feelings of self-worth and self-importance. The biblical "work" mentioned above was about volunteer work to serve others. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76539860 Yeah, I work for a living and that makes me a chump, too. I wish I had the guts to just quit and live in a commune, or something. No money, just doing chores to make the commune a better place for everyone. That would be great. Only I'd like an acerage, my animals, and husband. Micro dosing with lsd , smoking and toking, and GLP ing all day everyday. But such is life,,,,, |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 77451794 United States 12/03/2019 02:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All of that may be true, but Apes don't build houses. They don't have insurance. They don't have medical care. These things cost money. Get out and get a job, ya hippy. Or you can go climb trees and eat your own poo like an ape and see how far that gets you. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 71975244 United Kingdom 12/03/2019 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All of that may be true, but Apes don't build houses. They don't have insurance. They don't have medical care. These things cost money. Get out and get a job, ya hippy. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 77451794 Or you can go climb trees and eat your own poo like an ape and see how far that gets you. This is what real 'fear' looks like. |
Lizard King User ID: 31450951 United States 12/03/2019 03:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Animals only "work" as much as is needed each day to survive. That includes humans closest ancestors, the apes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12165082 Obsessing about "work" and working overlong hours everyday only really came about as religions starting preaching about how great it is. The religious "leader" con men needed others to overwork so they could be fooled into giving extra food to "god." As today, religious "leaders" really provide no tangible benefit other than just hypocritically lecturing others so they needed others to agree to feed them. Many of the few remaining self sustaining primitive tribes still adhere to this philosophy as well. They have zero stress because they only do enough to get by. OP, you are right! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 77572879 United States 12/03/2019 03:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can tell the OP is a communist by his attack on religion while leaving the government equivalent alone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76293530 No, I am talking about the very FIRST examples of encouraging overworking, not Communism, etc. The earliest versions of the Torah and Bible preach about how "godly" it is to work yourself to death. Of course, the priests and other leaders arent really doing any of the actual work, they are simply demanding donations from the workers. Sounds familier even for today. Religions only bring about misery for the followers. Always have, always will. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78223711 United States 12/07/2019 12:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Animals only "work" as much as is needed each day to survive. That includes humans closest ancestors, the apes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12165082 Obsessing about "work" and working overlong hours everyday only really came about as religions starting preaching about how great it is. The religious "leader" con men needed others to overwork so they could be fooled into giving extra food to "god." As today, religious "leaders" really provide no tangible benefit other than just hypocritically lecturing others so they needed others to agree to feed them. Many of the few remaining self sustaining primitive tribes still adhere to this philosophy as well. They have zero stress because they only do enough to get by. "Natural laws" were eventually overridden by "religious laws" OP. That was the beginning of the stress filled world of today. This. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78219237 United States 12/07/2019 01:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can tell the OP is a communist by his attack on religion while leaving the government equivalent alone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76293530 No, I am talking about the very FIRST examples of encouraging overworking, not Communism, etc. The earliest versions of the Torah and Bible preach about how "godly" it is to work yourself to death. Of course, the priests and other leaders arent really doing any of the actual work, they are simply demanding donations from the workers. Sounds familier even for today. Religions only bring about misery for the followers. Always have, always will. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72779180 United States 12/07/2019 01:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Animals only "work" as much as is needed each day to survive. That includes humans closest ancestors, the apes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12165082 Obsessing about "work" and working overlong hours everyday only really came about as religions starting preaching about how great it is. The religious "leader" con men needed others to overwork so they could be fooled into giving extra food to "god." As today, religious "leaders" really provide no tangible benefit other than just hypocritically lecturing others so they needed others to agree to feed them. Many of the few remaining self sustaining primitive tribes still adhere to this philosophy as well. They have zero stress because they only do enough to get by. Listen to me you stupid ignorant man you are not born from an ape a gorilla and orangutan they have nothing to do with what you are and what you were created to be it is people like you who are dead inside |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78219237 United States 12/07/2019 01:13 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Animals only "work" as much as is needed each day to survive. That includes humans closest ancestors, the apes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12165082 Obsessing about "work" and working overlong hours everyday only really came about as religions starting preaching about how great it is. The religious "leader" con men needed others to overwork so they could be fooled into giving extra food to "god." As today, religious "leaders" really provide no tangible benefit other than just hypocritically lecturing others so they needed others to agree to feed them. Many of the few remaining self sustaining primitive tribes still adhere to this philosophy as well. They have zero stress because they only do enough to get by. Listen to me you stupid ignorant man you are not born from an ape a gorilla and orangutan they have nothing to do with what you are and what you were created to be it is people like you who are dead inside So since OP pointed out a FACTUAL natural law, you have to insult him with religious bullshit. So in your view, some guy floating on a cloud invented humans just to overwork every day of their lives just to survive? Absurd. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27468824 United States 12/07/2019 01:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Work enough to house and feed yourself and your family, not lazy ass preachers who pretend to talk to "god" for you. um, preachers' do not force you to give money your satanic government forces you to give them money, that is why you need the protection of God, Jesus Christ will protect you from their tyranny. the bankers create all your money from nothing, not Preachers. they get all the money for free, a priest has to be godly and make you feel good to get money. he has to deliver a product. the bankers hate religion because real christians share things, and have everything in common. as it says in bible, if there are 4 or 5 of you who share your lives and your goods, your house, your car, etc, you will never been poor or wanting. I believe that is a contractual statement by the Holy Spirit. IF you do this, God will supernaturally ACT in your lives and make you wealthy if you share everything in common with 4 or 5 people, i think that means other than your family, too, of course families share , i think that means 4 or 5 other families |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27468824 United States 12/07/2019 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i will tell you how human beings evolved. it is not difficult to understand actually. chimps actually display the obvious behaviors that we can logically conclude, if all humans were wiped out, humans would evolve again from chimps in a few hundred thousand years, or possibly much less time the chimps that can carve arrow heads or weapons from rocks possess an ability to concentrate. what does that actually mean 'to concentrate'? why did they call it 'concentration? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27468824 United States 12/07/2019 01:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | it is not difficult to understand actually. chimps actually display the obvious behaviors that we can logically conclude, if all humans were wiped out, humans would evolve again from chimps in a few hundred thousand years, or possibly much less time the chimps that can carve arrow heads or weapons from rocks possess an ability to concentrate. what does that actually mean 'to concentrate'? why did they call it 'concentration? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78223711 United States 12/07/2019 01:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i will tell you how human beings evolved. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27468824 it is not difficult to understand actually. chimps actually display the obvious behaviors that we can logically conclude, if all humans were wiped out, humans would evolve again from chimps in a few hundred thousand years, or possibly much less time the chimps that can carve arrow heads or weapons from rocks possess an ability to concentrate. what does that actually mean 'to concentrate'? why did they call it 'concentration? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75686950 United States 12/07/2019 01:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Animals only "work" as much as is needed each day to survive. That includes humans closest ancestors, the apes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12165082 Obsessing about "work" and working overlong hours everyday only really came about as religions starting preaching about how great it is. The religious "leader" con men needed others to overwork so they could be fooled into giving extra food to "god." As today, religious "leaders" really provide no tangible benefit other than just hypocritically lecturing others so they needed others to agree to feed them. Many of the few remaining self sustaining primitive tribes still adhere to this philosophy as well. They have zero stress because they only do enough to get by. OP is correct. In 50 work will be obsoleted by machinery. What’s one’s purpose then? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27468824 United States 12/07/2019 01:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i will tell you how human beings evolved. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27468824 it is not difficult to understand actually. chimps actually display the obvious behaviors that we can logically conclude, if all humans were wiped out, humans would evolve again from chimps in a few hundred thousand years, or possibly much less time the chimps that can carve arrow heads or weapons from rocks possess an ability to concentrate. what does that actually mean 'to concentrate'? why did they call it 'concentration? well it's not so much weapons by which they evolved, starting wars is always the best way to get wiped out yourself. but they did learn to 'work' and build mud houses, dwellings, that kept them warm. they learned to make clothes. how to prepare foods that were more nutritious, and could be stored. chimps did this by learning to concentrate. concentration became a learned behavior, the children mimicked the behavior, it became inherited. this is how all creatures evolve, all life forms create themselves. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27468824 United States 12/07/2019 01:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Animals only "work" as much as is needed each day to survive. That includes humans closest ancestors, the apes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12165082 Obsessing about "work" and working overlong hours everyday only really came about as religions starting preaching about how great it is. The religious "leader" con men needed others to overwork so they could be fooled into giving extra food to "god." As today, religious "leaders" really provide no tangible benefit other than just hypocritically lecturing others so they needed others to agree to feed them. Many of the few remaining self sustaining primitive tribes still adhere to this philosophy as well. They have zero stress because they only do enough to get by. OP is correct. In 50 work will be obsoleted by machinery. What’s one’s purpose then? vanity. everyone you meet everyday, either decides you are better than them, or inferior to themselves. or possible an equal. they are constantly assessing themselves and their own goodness, greatness. all people judge you by your greatness, how much money you have, how attractive you are, what your credit score is, one of hundreds of little things that impress others with how cool you are. how worthy of vanity you are. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27468824 United States 12/07/2019 01:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i will tell you how human beings evolved. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27468824 it is not difficult to understand actually. chimps actually display the obvious behaviors that we can logically conclude, if all humans were wiped out, humans would evolve again from chimps in a few hundred thousand years, or possibly much less time the chimps that can carve arrow heads or weapons from rocks possess an ability to concentrate. what does that actually mean 'to concentrate'? why did they call it 'concentration? nasty little monkey wants to feel superior for sake of feeling superior. pure hollow vanity. con·cen·trate /ˈkänsənˌtrāt/ Learn to pronounce verb 1. focus one's attention or mental effort on a particular object or activity. what does it mean to focus mental effort on an activity? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78231435 Australia 12/07/2019 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Animals only "work" as much as is needed each day to survive. That includes humans closest ancestors, the apes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12165082 Obsessing about "work" and working overlong hours everyday only really came about as religions starting preaching about how great it is. The religious "leader" con men needed others to overwork so they could be fooled into giving extra food to "god." As today, religious "leaders" really provide no tangible benefit other than just hypocritically lecturing others so they needed others to agree to feed them. Many of the few remaining self sustaining primitive tribes still adhere to this philosophy as well. They have zero stress because they only do enough to get by. Scene from "When Women Lost Their Tails" (1972) [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] When Women Lost Their Tails [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] I believe Lando Buzzanca was blocked after this movie. It is about exactly what OP is talking about. I think this movie have achieved cult status with new generations. Great thread OP. Thank you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78231435 Australia 12/07/2019 02:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Animals only "work" as much as is needed each day to survive. That includes humans closest ancestors, the apes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12165082 Obsessing about "work" and working overlong hours everyday only really came about as religions starting preaching about how great it is. The religious "leader" con men needed others to overwork so they could be fooled into giving extra food to "god." As today, religious "leaders" really provide no tangible benefit other than just hypocritically lecturing others so they needed others to agree to feed them. Many of the few remaining self sustaining primitive tribes still adhere to this philosophy as well. They have zero stress because they only do enough to get by. Scene from "When Women Lost Their Tails" (1972) [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] When Women Lost Their Tails [link to en.wikipedia.org (secure)] I believe Lando Buzzanca was blocked after this movie. It is about exactly what OP is talking about. I think this movie have achieved cult status with new generations. Great thread OP. Thank you. b u m p |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 78214802 United States 12/07/2019 02:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I can tell the OP is a communist by his attack on religion while leaving the government equivalent alone. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76293530 No, I am talking about the very FIRST examples of encouraging overworking, not Communism, etc. The earliest versions of the Torah and Bible preach about how "godly" it is to work yourself to death. Of course, the priests and other leaders arent really doing any of the actual work, they are simply demanding donations from the workers. Sounds familier even for today. LOL, you must not actually read Torah/Bible very much or in CONTEXT!!! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 70718302 United States 12/07/2019 04:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Animals only "work" as much as is needed each day to survive. That includes humans closest ancestors, the apes. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12165082 Obsessing about "work" and working overlong hours everyday only really came about as religions starting preaching about how great it is. The religious "leader" con men needed others to overwork so they could be fooled into giving extra food to "god." As today, religious "leaders" really provide no tangible benefit other than just hypocritically lecturing others so they needed others to agree to feed them. Many of the few remaining self sustaining primitive tribes still adhere to this philosophy as well. They have zero stress because they only do enough to get by. Basically true. Humans manufactured the idea of working more than is actually needed to survive. And the earliest reasons for that was religions. Someone had to do extra work to pay for the non working "priests." |