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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 46146227 United States 02/28/2018 10:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives Correct. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76304814 Free market. Supply and demand. They supply what you demand. Don't demand it, they can't supply it. Capitalism. Deal with it. Boycott if you don't like it. That ^ Sick of all the fake libertarians that get butthurt about this shit and there are PLENTY of them here. |
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The Deplorable Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator 02/28/2018 10:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives Correct. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76304814 Free market. Supply and demand. They supply what you demand. Don't demand it, they can't supply it. Capitalism. Deal with it. Boycott if you don't like it. That ^ Sick of all the fake libertarians that get butthurt about this shit and there are PLENTY of them here. Oh my, how simple minded you really are... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76275595 United States 02/28/2018 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives When the content is generated by users, the sites shouldn't be legally classified as private. Sorry OP, your argument is based on these sites being private property when they are really a co-creation, and should be recognized as such legally. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76304814 France 02/28/2018 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives Correct. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76304814 Free market. Supply and demand. They supply what you demand. Don't demand it, they can't supply it. Capitalism. Deal with it. Boycott if you don't like it. Boycott or create your own business. Agreed. Those who think YouTube should be held to standards other than their own are really fascist is disguise. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 46146227 United States 02/28/2018 11:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives Correct. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76304814 Free market. Supply and demand. They supply what you demand. Don't demand it, they can't supply it. Capitalism. Deal with it. Boycott if you don't like it. That ^ Sick of all the fake libertarians that get butthurt about this shit and there are PLENTY of them here. Oh my, how simple minded you really are... If you don't like it, start your own video hosting site. Snowflakes cry and whine. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 46146227 United States 02/28/2018 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives When the content is generated by users, the sites shouldn't be legally classified as private. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76275595 Sorry OP, your argument is based on these sites being private property when they are really a co-creation, and should be recognized as such legally. It's still their business. They own it, they can do as they please. You sir, are NOT a true libertarian. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76275595 United States 02/28/2018 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives With user generated content, the conditions under which the site was co-created should be seen as a contract. Therefore when the owner starts censoring a site, the users who helped create that site should have legal recourse. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76275595 United States 02/28/2018 11:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives When the content is generated by users, the sites shouldn't be legally classified as private. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76275595 Sorry OP, your argument is based on these sites being private property when they are really a co-creation, and should be recognized as such legally. It's still their business. They own it, they can do as they please. You sir, are NOT a true libertarian. It is not their business, the business was co-created. SOrry sir, but your premise is wrong and your argument is invalied. |
The Deplorable Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator 02/28/2018 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives Maybe, just maybe, you DO have a surviving neuron in that head of yours after all! Now think, real hard, if you boycott someone, doesn't that generally mean you "have an issue" with their activities? So you just admitted that it's ok for libertarians to "have an issue with YouTube for banning them" and even to call for boycotts against them... Maybe there's hope for you yet. In the meantime, many channels ARE migrating to different video platforms. A consensus seems to be forming that Bitchute is the best YouTube alternative out there right now. They certainly seem to be in greater favor of free speech than YouTube. If they offered live streaming I would jump on it myself, but that does seem to be in their future plans. When they implement that, I may leave YouTube as well. |
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Senior Forum Moderator 02/28/2018 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives Correct. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76304814 Free market. Supply and demand. They supply what you demand. Don't demand it, they can't supply it. Capitalism. Deal with it. Boycott if you don't like it. That ^ Sick of all the fake libertarians that get butthurt about this shit and there are PLENTY of them here. Oh my, how simple minded you really are... If you don't like it, start your own video hosting site. Snowflakes cry and whine. I don't have the money needed to provide my own hosting for that level of bandwidth. Believe it or not, you CAN take issue with YouTube without being a snowflake, or a hypocrite. I thought there might be hope for you, guess I was wrong. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76304814 France 02/28/2018 11:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives With user generated content, the conditions under which the site was co-created should be seen as a contract. Therefore when the owner starts censoring a site, the users who helped create that site should have legal recourse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76275595 You gave them consent to use and host your video on their server, and they pay to do so. Therefore, once you give them that right, they now own and can discard and reject what you legally gave consent for them to have. Don't want issues, keep your bits and bytes to yourself, or choose another server. Create one, if you can. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 46146227 United States 02/28/2018 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives Maybe, just maybe, you DO have a surviving neuron in that head of yours after all! Now think, real hard, if you boycott someone, doesn't that generally mean you "have an issue" with their activities? So you just admitted that it's ok for libertarians to "have an issue with YouTube for banning them" and even to call for boycotts against them... Maybe there's hope for you yet. In the meantime, many channels ARE migrating to different video platforms. A consensus seems to be forming that Bitchute is the best YouTube alternative out there right now. They certainly seem to be in greater favor of free speech than YouTube. If they offered live streaming I would jump on it myself, but that does seem to be in their future plans. When they implement that, I may leave YouTube as well. Boycott doesn't have to mean start your own mass movement and bitch about it all day on an internet forum or in the street, as you're trying to portray it. Boycott simply means remove your monetary support. Nice try. Run along. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76304814 France 02/28/2018 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives You can always tell who the loser in an argument is, the one who starts the name calling. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76304814 They really think that elevates them in putting others down. And your bitching and moaning really adds value doesnt it... You call stating an observation as moaning? You try too hard, and always fall short. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76275595 United States 02/28/2018 11:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives With user generated content, the conditions under which the site was co-created should be seen as a contract. Therefore when the owner starts censoring a site, the users who helped create that site should have legal recourse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76275595 You gave them consent to use and host your video on their server, and they pay to do so. Therefore, once you give them that right, they now own and can discard and reject what you legally gave consent for them to have. Don't want issues, keep your bits and bytes to yourself, or choose another server. Create one, if you can. Their terms and conditions change all the time. Users made the site popular under a certain set of terms and conditions. Therefore the site was co-created. The original conditions should be the contract. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76304814 France 02/28/2018 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives Maybe, just maybe, you DO have a surviving neuron in that head of yours after all! Now think, real hard, if you boycott someone, doesn't that generally mean you "have an issue" with their activities? So you just admitted that it's ok for libertarians to "have an issue with YouTube for banning them" and even to call for boycotts against them... Maybe there's hope for you yet. In the meantime, many channels ARE migrating to different video platforms. A consensus seems to be forming that Bitchute is the best YouTube alternative out there right now. They certainly seem to be in greater favor of free speech than YouTube. If they offered live streaming I would jump on it myself, but that does seem to be in their future plans. When they implement that, I may leave YouTube as well. Boycott doesn't have to mean start your own mass movement and bitch about it all day on an internet forum or in the street, as you're trying to portray it. Boycott simply means remove your monetary support. Nice try. Run along. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76304814 France 02/28/2018 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives With user generated content, the conditions under which the site was co-created should be seen as a contract. Therefore when the owner starts censoring a site, the users who helped create that site should have legal recourse. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76275595 You gave them consent to use and host your video on their server, and they pay to do so. Therefore, once you give them that right, they now own and can discard and reject what you legally gave consent for them to have. Don't want issues, keep your bits and bytes to yourself, or choose another server. Create one, if you can. Their terms and conditions change all the time. Users made the site popular under a certain set of terms and conditions. Therefore the site was co-created. The original conditions should be the contract. Nope. Each time they make changes you agree to the changes. Don't agree, pull your videos and channel once the changes become effective. Your argument is null and void. |
The Deplorable Astromut
Senior Forum Moderator 02/28/2018 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives Maybe, just maybe, you DO have a surviving neuron in that head of yours after all! Now think, real hard, if you boycott someone, doesn't that generally mean you "have an issue" with their activities? So you just admitted that it's ok for libertarians to "have an issue with YouTube for banning them" and even to call for boycotts against them... Maybe there's hope for you yet. In the meantime, many channels ARE migrating to different video platforms. A consensus seems to be forming that Bitchute is the best YouTube alternative out there right now. They certainly seem to be in greater favor of free speech than YouTube. If they offered live streaming I would jump on it myself, but that does seem to be in their future plans. When they implement that, I may leave YouTube as well. Boycott doesn't have to mean start your own mass movement Bahahaha! That is rather the point of a boycott. Yes, you remove your money and you encourage others to as well. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 46146227 United States 02/28/2018 11:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives When the content is generated by users, the sites shouldn't be legally classified as private. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76275595 Sorry OP, your argument is based on these sites being private property when they are really a co-creation, and should be recognized as such legally. It's still their business. They own it, they can do as they please. You sir, are NOT a true libertarian. It is not their business, the business was co-created. SOrry sir, but your premise is wrong and your argument is invalied. They don't make their money from your videos. They make money from advertising clicks that they get from the page that THEY gave to you at no charge. Remove the content as you see fit. Sorry but you're wrong. Soon, the judges ruling on all of this will back me as well. Lawsuits have been filed. Bookmark the page, you can apologize later for being an ass. |
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Senior Forum Moderator 02/28/2018 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives Maybe, just maybe, you DO have a surviving neuron in that head of yours after all! Now think, real hard, if you boycott someone, doesn't that generally mean you "have an issue" with their activities? So you just admitted that it's ok for libertarians to "have an issue with YouTube for banning them" and even to call for boycotts against them... Maybe there's hope for you yet. In the meantime, many channels ARE migrating to different video platforms. A consensus seems to be forming that Bitchute is the best YouTube alternative out there right now. They certainly seem to be in greater favor of free speech than YouTube. If they offered live streaming I would jump on it myself, but that does seem to be in their future plans. When they implement that, I may leave YouTube as well. Boycott doesn't have to mean start your own mass movement and bitch about it all day on an internet forum or in the street, as you're trying to portray it. Boycott simply means remove your monetary support. Nice try. Run along. :heswrong: |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 32797668 United States 02/28/2018 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives You can always tell who the loser in an argument is, the one who starts the name calling. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76304814 They really think that elevates them in putting others down. And your bitching and moaning really adds value doesnt it... You call stating an observation as moaning? You try too hard, and always fall short. Here you go again adding nothing. Keep feedin that ego ;) |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 75290368 United States 02/28/2018 11:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives I put those communication lines in..I should be able to cut what I don't like and who uses it. That road you use ..I may have built it..Stay off. That water your drinking..Put in the mainlines stop drinking. OP. Just being a libertarian like you. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76275595 United States 02/28/2018 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives When the content is generated by users, the sites shouldn't be legally classified as private. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76275595 Sorry OP, your argument is based on these sites being private property when they are really a co-creation, and should be recognized as such legally. It's still their business. They own it, they can do as they please. You sir, are NOT a true libertarian. It is not their business, the business was co-created. SOrry sir, but your premise is wrong and your argument is invalied. They don't make their money from your videos. They make money from advertising clicks that they get from the page that THEY gave to you at no charge. Remove the content as you see fit. Sorry but you're wrong. Soon, the judges ruling on all of this will back me as well. Lawsuits have been filed. Bookmark the page, you can apologize later for being an ass. I have no doubt the judges will rule as you say. The judges are corrupt. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76304814 France 02/28/2018 11:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: If you're a true libertarian, you should have no issue with Youtube and other social media sites choosing to censor conservatives ... Quoting: The Deplorable Astromut Maybe, just maybe, you DO have a surviving neuron in that head of yours after all! Now think, real hard, if you boycott someone, doesn't that generally mean you "have an issue" with their activities? So you just admitted that it's ok for libertarians to "have an issue with YouTube for banning them" and even to call for boycotts against them... Maybe there's hope for you yet. In the meantime, many channels ARE migrating to different video platforms. A consensus seems to be forming that Bitchute is the best YouTube alternative out there right now. They certainly seem to be in greater favor of free speech than YouTube. If they offered live streaming I would jump on it myself, but that does seem to be in their future plans. When they implement that, I may leave YouTube as well. Boycott doesn't have to mean start your own mass movement and bitch about it all day on an internet forum or in the street, as you're trying to portray it. Boycott simply means remove your monetary support. Nice try. Run along. :heswrong: |