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QAnon: It's on, don't panic ii

 
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WATCH: Crazed SUV Driver Tries to Crash Head-On With President Trump’s Motorcade

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It was an accident due to the car in front slowing down to watch, causing the one behind to brake and swerve.
 Quoting: keybored


Please can you tell me where the evidence is for this?

I’m not being deliberately argumentative about this but several mods etc all said the same with no proof apart from someone claiming they knew the person.
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Was talking to my friend about what's going on in the country and what q anon is and I found myself saying to them, a hillary voting ny dem, that this is not republicans/conservatives are all good and dems/lefties/libs are all bad. This is there are good honest people working together to fight the folks who travel in the darkest areas of life.

They were surprised I said this because they thought the republicans versus dems made it a political thing. I actually said to them, hey listen, it's possible when this is over we are going to find out that good dems worked with good republicans to save the country.

I think this was a great way to approach this because they're going to do some q research now and watch the videos I've sent.

wanted to share because this may help others here.
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now that folks...

is how you butter your bread!!!
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WATCH: Crazed SUV Driver Tries to Crash Head-On With President Trump’s Motorcade

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36729630


It was an accident due to the car in front slowing down to watch, causing the one behind to brake and swerve.
 Quoting: keybored


Please can you tell me where the evidence is for this?

I’m not being deliberately argumentative about this but several mods etc all said the same with no proof apart from someone claiming they knew the person.
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There's a link posted a couple of pages back.
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WATCH: Crazed SUV Driver Tries to Crash Head-On With President Trump’s Motorcade

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36729630


It was an accident due to the car in front slowing down to watch, causing the one behind to brake and swerve.
 Quoting: keybored


Please can you tell me where the evidence is for this?

I’m not being deliberately argumentative about this but several mods etc all said the same with no proof apart from someone claiming they knew the person.
 Quoting: eightleggeddj


couple pages back someone posted a comment from the young girls parents
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dasbier AC630!
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WATCH: Crazed SUV Driver Tries to Crash Head-On With President Trump’s Motorcade

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36729630


It was an accident due to the car in front slowing down to watch, causing the one behind to brake and swerve.
 Quoting: keybored


Please can you tell me where the evidence is for this?

I’m not being deliberately argumentative about this but several mods etc all said the same with no proof apart from someone claiming they knew the person.
 Quoting: eightleggeddj


I stated it was an accident even before that person posted claiming to know the driver.

You just have to watch the car in front slow down and the one behind's reaction to see it was just an accident.

I've spent many years on the road as an HGV driver, so my perception of other vehicles and how they react in situations is much better than the average persons.
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RACISM IS ARROGANT
‏@Dangerangel

Replying to @XavierGGarza3 @ccross5882 @RebekahRachel01
Huber doesn’t have hundreds of FBI agents investigating the Democrats. How do we know? Their payroll is public. His payroll hasn’t increased. Go look. #QAnon is full of crap.

1:13 PM - 10 Mar 2019
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The q anon twitter feed is suddenly being flooded by the dem paid brigade. More than I've ever seen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36729630


So the facts like public payroll don't mean a thing when some anonymous larper on the net makes wild claims?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74955467


If they are already employed by the FBI but were reassigned, they would already be on the payroll, no?
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RACISM IS ARROGANT
‏@Dangerangel

Replying to @XavierGGarza3 @ccross5882 @RebekahRachel01
Huber doesn’t have hundreds of FBI agents investigating the Democrats. How do we know? Their payroll is public. His payroll hasn’t increased. Go look. #QAnon is full of crap.

1:13 PM - 10 Mar 2019
[link to twitter.com (secure)]

The q anon twitter feed is suddenly being flooded by the dem paid brigade. More than I've ever seen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36729630


So the facts like public payroll don't mean a thing when some anonymous larper on the net makes wild claims?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74955467


If they are already employed by the FBI but were reassigned, they would already be on the payroll, no?
 Quoting: keybored


Yes, it's like all their arguments on that thread. On the face they look reasonable until you think about it a little bit. They would never make anything obvious. Maybe that's why it was done there?
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WATCH: Crazed SUV Driver Tries to Crash Head-On With President Trump’s Motorcade

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36729630


It was an accident due to the car in front slowing down to watch, causing the one behind to brake and swerve.
 Quoting: keybored


Please can you tell me where the evidence is for this?

I’m not being deliberately argumentative about this but several mods etc all said the same with no proof apart from someone claiming they knew the person.
 Quoting: eightleggeddj


I stated it was an accident even before that person posted claiming to know the driver.

You just have to watch the car in front slow down and the one behind's reaction to see it was just an accident.

I've spent many years on the road as an HGV driver, so my perception of other vehicles and how they react in situations is much better than the average persons.
 Quoting: keybored


Once I watched the video, I agree it was an accident. Instead of continuing toward the motorcade, the drive turns away from it.
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WATCH: Crazed SUV Driver Tries to Crash Head-On With President Trump’s Motorcade

[link to truepundit.com (secure)]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36729630


It was an accident due to the car in front slowing down to watch, causing the one behind to brake and swerve.
 Quoting: keybored


Please can you tell me where the evidence is for this?

I’m not being deliberately argumentative about this but several mods etc all said the same with no proof apart from someone claiming they knew the person.
 Quoting: eightleggeddj


I stated it was an accident even before that person posted claiming to know the driver.

You just have to watch the car in front slow down and the one behind's reaction to see it was just an accident.

I've spent many years on the road as an HGV driver, so my perception of other vehicles and how they react in situations is much better than the average persons.
 Quoting: keybored


I believed you when you said it, however, I was bringing the comments over because they would not let it drop. And it was very annoying.
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WATCH: Crazed SUV Driver Tries to Crash Head-On With President Trump’s Motorcade

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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36729630


It was an accident due to the car in front slowing down to watch, causing the one behind to brake and swerve.
 Quoting: keybored


Please can you tell me where the evidence is for this?

I’m not being deliberately argumentative about this but several mods etc all said the same with no proof apart from someone claiming they knew the person.
 Quoting: eightleggeddj


I stated it was an accident even before that person posted claiming to know the driver.

You just have to watch the car in front slow down and the one behind's reaction to see it was just an accident.

I've spent many years on the road as an HGV driver, so my perception of other vehicles and how they react in situations is much better than the average persons.
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So no actual evidence then?
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Are you a lawyer? Why does it matter?
You think she was trying to hit the motorcade?
She was on her phone. Duh.
Water is the only drink for a wise man.
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RACISM IS ARROGANT
‏@Dangerangel

Replying to @XavierGGarza3 @ccross5882 @RebekahRachel01
Huber doesn’t have hundreds of FBI agents investigating the Democrats. How do we know? Their payroll is public. His payroll hasn’t increased. Go look. #QAnon is full of crap.

1:13 PM - 10 Mar 2019
[link to twitter.com (secure)]

The q anon twitter feed is suddenly being flooded by the dem paid brigade. More than I've ever seen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36729630


So the facts like public payroll don't mean a thing when some anonymous larper on the net makes wild claims?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74955467


If they are already employed by the FBI but were reassigned, they would already be on the payroll, no?
 Quoting: keybored


and maybe a few semi retired patriots working pro bono. its pretty obvious this decades in the making...

'13 superbowl Maserati commercial comes to mind. As a lil black girl speaks this;
"Strike"

The world is full of giants.
They have always been here, lumbering in the schoolyards, limping through the alleys.
We had to learn how to deal with them, how to overcome them.
We were small but fast, remember?
We were like a wind appearing out of nowhere.
We knew that being clever was more important than being the biggest kid in the neighborhood.

As long as we keep our heads down, as long as we work hard,
trust what we feel in our guts, our hearts,
Then we're ready.
We wait until they get sleepy,
wait until they get so big they can barely move,
and then walk out of the shadows,
quietly walk out of the dark—and strike."

Zoinx
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Are you a lawyer? Why does it matter?
You think she was trying to hit the motorcade?
She was on her phone. Duh.
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Evidence? What is the problem?
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It was an accident due to the car in front slowing down to watch, causing the one behind to brake and swerve.
 Quoting: keybored


Please can you tell me where the evidence is for this?

I’m not being deliberately argumentative about this but several mods etc all said the same with no proof apart from someone claiming they knew the person.
 Quoting: eightleggeddj


I stated it was an accident even before that person posted claiming to know the driver.

You just have to watch the car in front slow down and the one behind's reaction to see it was just an accident.

I've spent many years on the road as an HGV driver, so my perception of other vehicles and how they react in situations is much better than the average persons.
 Quoting: keybored


So no actual evidence then?
 Quoting: eightleggeddj


What were you expecting? 2 years's worth of text messages plotting it?

I presented evidence, which is different than proof. I cannot prove it was an accident because I would have to have been able to prove a motive but anyone that has spent extended time on the road and has seen how accidents happen (from an elevated position) can look at it and see the cause and effect which appears to be simply an accident.

What would you do if you were driving the speed limit and the car in front suddenly decelerates for no reason? You brake and try and steer clear. Sometimes the braking sends you off to one side.
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Are you a lawyer? Why does it matter?
You think she was trying to hit the motorcade?
She was on her phone. Duh.
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20 years ago, was her age at the beach. had a friend in the passenger seat who pointed out some girl with ridiculously huge boobs, back when fake ones weren't a billion dollar industry, coming out of a store in a string bikini. the light turned red. I couldn't stop in time... kissed the lil sedans trunk enough need a fixin lol

so my 20 year old adhd self might of hit the guard rail too seeing the trump train. if someone was going to try that on purpose, they'd of planned/tried going thru where guardrails are not. which is prob covered. Trump is driving in a bomb proof car. only thing that could hurt him on the road is himself. that suv prob bounce off trumps beast
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Please can you tell me where the evidence is for this?

I’m not being deliberately argumentative about this but several mods etc all said the same with no proof apart from someone claiming they knew the person.
 Quoting: eightleggeddj


I stated it was an accident even before that person posted claiming to know the driver.

You just have to watch the car in front slow down and the one behind's reaction to see it was just an accident.

I've spent many years on the road as an HGV driver, so my perception of other vehicles and how they react in situations is much better than the average persons.
 Quoting: keybored


So no actual evidence then?
 Quoting: eightleggeddj


What were you expecting? 2 years's worth of text messages plotting it?

I presented evidence, which is different than proof. I cannot prove it was an accident because I would have to have been able to prove a motive but anyone that has spent extended time on the road and has seen how accidents happen (from an elevated position) can look at it and see the cause and effect which appears to be simply an accident.

What would you do if you were driving the speed limit and the car in front suddenly decelerates for no reason? You brake and try and steer clear. Sometimes the braking sends you off to one side.
 Quoting: keybored


No I’m not expecting 2 years worth of text messages. I’m expecting us “patriots” where ever we are to investigate things and not blindly accept.

The fact is this. No one has any evidence this was an accident or a plotted assignation attempt. Not here any way, and yet the forum owner and mods all called bullshit without any facts.

And yes I’ve put in hundreds of thousands of miles so please don’t try to condescend me.

This whole thing is about opinions and not facts.

I don’t wish to be a pain, I just want the truth, with facts, like we all do hopefully.
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Re: QAnon: It's on, don't panic ii
Are you a lawyer? Why does it matter?
You think she was trying to hit the motorcade?
She was on her phone. Duh.
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Evidence? What is the problem?
 Quoting: eightleggeddj


The video IS evidence. Actual video evidence is usually the BEST possible evidence you can have (eyes on the scene, at the right time). People can make-up their own mind what they see. The driver could always lie you know, but the video doesn't (unless it's doctored) which makes it more credible.
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OMG.....ok, folks if this is real we HAVE to talk to our congressfolk, strongly!! and if you feel, as I do, that it beyond that, then speak up ever7where, and prepare/
Tell me this isn't happening, please. *says the person who knows we are in the ultimate battle of good/evil*
I am trusting that God's got this, but we gotta keep our vibrations up!
Send a note, an email, tell them, as they are clueless, zombies, and not evil, and we can shift it by giving it light.
Amen.
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hf
George Orwell was right..Black is White, Up is Down, War is Peace...

"Never believe anything until it has been officially denied."

Yesterday is history.......Tomorrow a mystery.......Today is a gift......thats why we call it the Present!!!
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RACISM IS ARROGANT
‏@Dangerangel

Replying to @XavierGGarza3 @ccross5882 @RebekahRachel01
Huber doesn’t have hundreds of FBI agents investigating the Democrats. How do we know? Their payroll is public. His payroll hasn’t increased. Go look. #QAnon is full of crap.

1:13 PM - 10 Mar 2019
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The q anon twitter feed is suddenly being flooded by the dem paid brigade. More than I've ever seen.
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So the facts like public payroll don't mean a thing when some anonymous larper on the net makes wild claims?
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We'll find out exactly how corrupt the FBI is or isn't depending on the answers I get from them concerning my case. Involves terrorism and more, Obama era and I will report back if bad.
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Are you a lawyer? Why does it matter?
You think she was trying to hit the motorcade?
She was on her phone. Duh.
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Evidence? What is the problem?
 Quoting: eightleggeddj


The video IS evidence. Actual video evidence is usually the BEST possible evidence you can have (eyes on the scene, at the right time). People can make-up their own mind what they see. The driver could always lie you know, but the video doesn't (unless it's doctored) which makes it more credible.
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Well the folks on the q anon twitter feed seem to make a comment about every 10 to 15 tweets. I'm trying to figure out what their point actually is.
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WATCH: Crazed SUV Driver Tries to Crash Head-On With President Trump’s Motorcade

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It was an accident due to the car in front slowing down to watch, causing the one behind to brake and swerve.
 Quoting: keybored


Please can you tell me where the evidence is for this?

I’m not being deliberately argumentative about this but several mods etc all said the same with no proof apart from someone claiming they knew the person.
 Quoting: eightleggeddj


This guy knows the people involved in the accident. I think there is proof in the thread.

Thread: Heres what I know about the car wreck that happened when POTUS came to Alabama this week.
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‏@Dangerangel

Replying to @XavierGGarza3 @ccross5882 @RebekahRachel01
Huber doesn’t have hundreds of FBI agents investigating the Democrats. How do we know? Their payroll is public. His payroll hasn’t increased. Go look. #QAnon is full of crap.

1:13 PM - 10 Mar 2019
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The q anon twitter feed is suddenly being flooded by the dem paid brigade. More than I've ever seen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36729630


So the facts like public payroll don't mean a thing when some anonymous larper on the net makes wild claims?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74955467




We'll find out exactly how corrupt the FBI is or isn't depending on the answers I get from them concerning my case. Involves terrorism and more, Obama era and I will report back if bad.
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Unless I'm dead.
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Bush Master has literally known that girl her whole life.
I assume you read his postings, if not, do so.
I hate to think how many similar accidents happen in this country daily.

The other day I was the next car in line behind a rear-ender.
I tapped the brake light and calmly pulled around them, along with everyone else.
There was a cop watching traffic literally 50 yds. behind us.

Last Edited by hillbilly on 03/10/2019 05:42 PM
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Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin
Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran
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‏@Dangerangel

Replying to @XavierGGarza3 @ccross5882 @RebekahRachel01
Huber doesn’t have hundreds of FBI agents investigating the Democrats. How do we know? Their payroll is public. His payroll hasn’t increased. Go look. #QAnon is full of crap.

1:13 PM - 10 Mar 2019
[link to twitter.com (secure)]

The q anon twitter feed is suddenly being flooded by the dem paid brigade. More than I've ever seen.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36729630


So the facts like public payroll don't mean a thing when some anonymous larper on the net makes wild claims?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74955467


is there some possibility of military investigators being used?

asking sincerely.
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Anyone notice if POTUS fleet altered formation, due to reaction?
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They see it everywhere they go, no doubt.
They were on the Interstate.

Last Edited by hillbilly on 03/10/2019 05:46 PM
Water is the only drink for a wise man.
Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin
Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi
Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans.
An old broom knows all the corners.
Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast.
Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son.
The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran
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Bush Master has literally known that girl her whole life.
I assume you read his postings, if not, do so.
I hate to think how many similar accidents happen in this country daily.

The other day I was the next car in line behind a rear-ender.
I tapped the brake light and calmly pulled around them, along with everyone else.
There was a cop watching traffic literally 50 yds. behind us.
 Quoting: hillbilly


Seriously? We are now quoting potential car accidents in defence.

There are a lot of people jumping to all kinds of arguments without a single bit of evidence. I though q told us to think for ourselves?
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I stated it was an accident even before that person posted claiming to know the driver.

You just have to watch the car in front slow down and the one behind's reaction to see it was just an accident.

I've spent many years on the road as an HGV driver, so my perception of other vehicles and how they react in situations is much better than the average persons.
 Quoting: keybored


So no actual evidence then?
 Quoting: eightleggeddj


What were you expecting? 2 years's worth of text messages plotting it?

I presented evidence, which is different than proof. I cannot prove it was an accident because I would have to have been able to prove a motive but anyone that has spent extended time on the road and has seen how accidents happen (from an elevated position) can look at it and see the cause and effect which appears to be simply an accident.

What would you do if you were driving the speed limit and the car in front suddenly decelerates for no reason? You brake and try and steer clear. Sometimes the braking sends you off to one side.
 Quoting: keybored


No I’m not expecting 2 years worth of text messages. I’m expecting us “patriots” where ever we are to investigate things and not blindly accept.

The fact is this. No one has any evidence this was an accident or a plotted assignation attempt. Not here any way, and yet the forum owner and mods all called bullshit without any facts.

And yes I’ve put in hundreds of thousands of miles so please don’t try to condescend me.

This whole thing is about opinions and not facts.

I don’t wish to be a pain, I just want the truth, with facts, like we all do hopefully.
 Quoting: eightleggeddj


It's a pointless exercise asking anyone on GLP for the facts of what happened as the only person who really knows is the driver. Ask the driver if you want the truth.

I wasn't being condescending. I was being sarcastic (which, being English, we are prone to do occasionally).

Just stating that anyone with enough years on the road knows what an accident looks like is merely pointing out that you see things differently.

I was stating what it looked like to me. Not everything is a conspiracy.
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Seriously? We are now quoting potential car accidents in defence.
 Quoting: eightleggeddj
I was paying attention to the traffic light that turned red in front of us.
I've rear-ended people myself that merely took their foot off the gas, no brake lights.
That young lady learned a CHEAP, valuable lesson about following distance and awareness.
SERIOUSLY, why are you so hung up on this?
Take it Bush Master's thread.

Last Edited by hillbilly on 03/10/2019 06:08 PM
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Re: QAnon: It's on, don't panic ii
Bush Master has literally known that girl her whole life.
I assume you read his postings, if not, do so.
I hate to think how many similar accidents happen in this country daily.

The other day I was the next car in line behind a rear-ender.
I tapped the brake light and calmly pulled around them, along with everyone else.
There was a cop watching traffic literally 50 yds. behind us.
 Quoting: hillbilly


Seriously? We are now quoting potential car accidents in defence.

There are a lot of people jumping to all kinds of arguments without a single bit of evidence. I though q told us to think for ourselves?
 Quoting: eightleggeddj


Some of us are thinking for ourselves. Just because you don't like our conclusions isn't out fault.

If you have any evidence to show it wasn't an accident then please do present it.

I concluded it was an accident on viewing the video based on my experience because that seemed the most logical explanation, as opposed to that other video where the car drives out of the trees (and into the ditch). Now that one looked like a deliberate attempt which thankfully failed.





GLP