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| Clair_Voyant
User ID: 61021459 United States04/05/2019 06:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A bit of info from another thread about Mueller. Mr. Pepperroni thinks that Trump told Mueller that very first day, either you gdo what I say because I have this, this and this on you. If you don’t want to be put to death, you will play the game. Quoting: Pepperroni I’m not sure what all laws if any Assangebreally broke but it is obvious the dirt bags of the world are scared shitless that someone like Assange could get their digital info and expose their lies, crimes and atrocities. Quoting: Deplorable Xeven Assange is sort of the information Robin Hood. First off jewilan assange goes with the official version of Sept 11 2001. He's no patriot Second Robert mueller was always a clean up man. After a 12-year stint leading the Bureau, the longest ever since J. Edgar Hoover, Mueller is now seen by many as an honest man serving the interest of the American public. However, that perception cannot be defended once one knows about Mueller’s past. What some people don’t know about Mueller is that he has a long history of leading government investigations that were diversions or cover-ups. These include the investigation into the 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103, the investigation into the terrorist financing Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), and the FBI investigations into the crimes of September 11th, 2001. Today the public is beginning to realize that Mueller’s investigation into Russian alleged collusion with the Trump campaign is a similar diversion. Mueller’s talents were noticed early in his career at the Justice Department. As a U.S. Attorney in Boston during the mid-80s, he helped falsely convict four men for murders they didn’t commit in order to protect a powerful FBI informant—mobster James “Whitey” Bulger.” According to the Boston Globe, Mueller was then appointed as chief investigator of the 1988 bombing of Pan Am 103 in Scotland. The account Mueller produced was a flimsy story that accused a Libyan named Megrahi of coordinating placement of a suitcase bomb that allegedly traveled unaccompanied through several airports to find its way to the doomed flight. Despite Mueller’s persistent defense of this unbelievable tale, Megrahi was released from prison in 2009 and died three years later in Libya. With the Pan Am 103 case, Mueller was covering up facts related to some of the of victims of the bombing—a group of U.S. intelligence specialists led by Major Charles McKee of the Defense Intelligence Agency. McKee had gone to Beirut to find and rescue hostages and, while there, learned about CIA involvement in a drug smuggling operation run through an agency project called COREA. As TIME magazine reported, the likely explanation for the bombing, supported by independent intelligence experts, was that U.S. operatives “targeted Flight 103 in order to kill the hostage-rescue team.” This would prevent disclosure of what McKee’s team had learned. That theory was also supported by the fact that the CIA showed up immediately at the scene of the crash, took McKee’s briefcase, and returned it empty. Mueller’s diversions led to his leadership of the Criminal Division at the U.S. Department of Justice, putting him in charge of investigations regarding BCCI. When Mueller started in that role, members of Congress and the media were already critical of the government’s approach to the BCCI affair. Mueller came into the picture telling the Washington Post that there was an “appearance of, one, foot-dragging; two, perhaps a cover-up.” Later he denied the cover-up claim and the suggestion that the CIA may have collaborated with BCCI operatives. But again, Mueller was simply brought in to accomplish the cover-up. The facts were that BCCI was used by the CIA to operate outside of the rule of law through funding of terrorists and other criminal operatives. The bank network was at the root of some of the greatest crimes against the public in the last 50 years, including the Savings & Loan scandal, the Iran-Contra affair, and the creation of the al-Qaeda terrorist network. Mueller was instrumental in obstructing the BCCI investigation led by Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau. During this time, Justice Department prosecutors were instructed not to cooperate with Morgenthau. Describing Mueller’s obstruction of Morgenthau, the Wall Street Journal reported that, “documents were withheld, and attempts were made to block other federal agencies from cooperating.” Describing Mueller’s role in the BCCI cover-up more clearly, reporter Chris Floyd wrote: “When a few prosecutors finally began targeting BCCI’s operations in the late Eighties, President George Herbert Walker Bush boldly moved in with a federal probe directed by Justice Department investigator Robert Mueller. The U.S. Senate later found that the probe had been unaccountably ‘botched’–witnesses went missing, CIA records got ‘lost,’… Lower-ranking prosecutors told of heavy pressure from on high to ‘lay off.’ Most of the big BCCI players went unpunished or, like [Khalib bin] Mahfouz, got off with wrist-slap fines and sanctions. Mueller, of course, wound up as head of the FBI, appointed to the post in July 2001–by George W. Bush.” Yes, in the summer of 2001, when the new Bush Administration suspected it would soon need a cover-up, Mueller was brought in for the job. Although suspect Louis Freeh was FBI Director in the lead-up to the crimes, Mueller knew enough to keep things under wraps. He also had some interesting ties to other 9/11 suspects like Rudy Giuliani, whose career paralleled Mueller’s closely during the Reagan and first Bush administrations. Under Mueller, the FBI began the whitewash of 9/11 immediately. Mueller himself lied repeatedly in the direct aftermath with respect to FBI knowledge of the accused hijackers. He claimed that the alleged hijackers left no paper trail, and suggested that they exercised “extraordinary secrecy” and “discipline never broke down.” In fact, “ring leader” Mohamed Atta went to great lengths to draw attention to himself prior to the attacks. Moreover, the evidence the accused men supposedly left behind was obvious and implausibly convenient for the FBI. Meanwhile, Mueller’s FBI immediately seized control of the investigations at the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and in Shanksville, PA where United Flight 93 was destroyed. Under Mueller, leaders of the Bureau went on to arrest and intimidate witnesses, destroy or withhold evidence, and prevent any independent investigation. With Mueller in the lead, the FBI failed to cooperate with the government investigations into 9/11 and failed miserably to perform basic investigatory tasks. Instead, Mueller celebrated some of the most egregious pre-9/11 failures of the FBI by giving those involved promotions, awards, and cash bonuses. As FBI whistleblower Coleen Rowley later wrote with regard to 9/11, “Robert Mueller (and James Comey as deputy attorney general) presided over a cover-up.” So you are accusing the president of coercion and blackmail? The legal system calls it a "plea deal" "Time hustles those who wait to die" "The eyes are useless when the mind is blind" GOD WINS! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36729630 United States04/05/2019 07:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After reading pepperoni's post it makes you wonder why this wasn't brought up before. It also makes you wonder why POTUS would have Guiliani anywhere near him, let alone as his personal lawyer through this entire russia russia russia hoax. And now you wonder about jay sekulow? And you wonder if there are any, any honest men and women in DC and for that matter in the blue cities. |
| Renaissance Woman
User ID: 74808330 United States04/05/2019 07:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After reading pepperoni's post it makes you wonder why this wasn't brought up before. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36729630 It also makes you wonder why POTUS would have Guiliani anywhere near him, let alone as his personal lawyer through this entire russia russia russia hoax. And now you wonder about jay sekulow? And you wonder if there are any, any honest men and women in DC and for that matter in the blue cities. What are your thoughts about Giuliani in this regard? He knows stuff and is a) helping POTUS with this whole thing, or b) he has bad intent to continue the coverup? "For with thee is the fountain of life: in thy light shall we see light." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36729630 United States04/05/2019 07:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Went to Sekulow's wiki page and now I'm wondering if SDNY is building a case against him for what was reported in the guardian? Or is the justice system really that it's "Just us" that don't have to follow the law and that includes all the high power legal eagles? Maybe this is why Victoria and Joe seemed to take a pass on this case? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36729630 United States04/05/2019 08:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jimmy Ed ‏@JimmyEd5 Grassley: Mueller Team Mischaracterized Trump Campaign Emails In Court Filing | The Daily Caller [link to dailycaller.com (secure)] … #MuellerReport #QAnon 4:27 PM - 5 Apr 2019 [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
| bigD111
User ID: 65945302 United States04/05/2019 08:15 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jimmy Ed Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36729630 ‏@JimmyEd5 Grassley: Mueller Team Mischaracterized Trump Campaign Emails In Court Filing | The Daily Caller [link to dailycaller.com (secure)] … #MuellerReport #QAnon 4:27 PM - 5 Apr 2019 [link to twitter.com (secure)] It will be like sound bites on the evening news, where the meaning can easily be misconstrued, because we did not hear the context in which it was said! More dem fuggery! deplorably republican |
| Vasily
User ID: 72304389 United States04/05/2019 08:17 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A bit of info from another thread about Mueller. Mr. Pepperroni thinks that Trump told Mueller that very first day, either you gdo what I say because I have this, this and this on you. If you don’t want to be put to death, you will play the game. Quoting: Pepperroni ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8916905 First off jewilan assange goes with the official version of Sept 11 2001. He's no patriot Second Robert mueller was always a clean up man. After a 12-year stint leading the Bureau, the longest ever since J. Edgar Hoover, Mueller is now seen by many as an honest man serving the interest of the American public. However, that perception cannot be defended once one knows about Mueller’s past. What some people don’t know about Mueller is that he has a long history of leading government investigations that were diversions or cover-ups. These include the investigation into the 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103, the investigation into the terrorist financing Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), and the FBI investigations into the crimes of September 11th, 2001. Today the public is beginning to realize that Mueller’s investigation into Russian alleged collusion with the Trump campaign is a similar diversion. Mueller’s talents were noticed early in his career at the Justice Department. As a U.S. Attorney in Boston during the mid-80s, he helped falsely convict four men for murders they didn’t commit in order to protect a powerful FBI informant—mobster James “Whitey” Bulger.” According to the Boston Globe, Mueller was then appointed as chief investigator of the 1988 bombing of Pan Am 103 in Scotland. The account Mueller produced was a flimsy story that accused a Libyan named Megrahi of coordinating placement of a suitcase bomb that allegedly traveled unaccompanied through several airports to find its way to the doomed flight. Despite Mueller’s persistent defense of this unbelievable tale, Megrahi was released from prison in 2009 and died three years later in Libya. With the Pan Am 103 case, Mueller was covering up facts related to some of the of victims of the bombing—a group of U.S. intelligence specialists led by Major Charles McKee of the Defense Intelligence Agency. McKee had gone to Beirut to find and rescue hostages and, while there, learned about CIA involvement in a drug smuggling operation run through an agency project called COREA. As TIME magazine reported, the likely explanation for the bombing, supported by independent intelligence experts, was that U.S. operatives “targeted Flight 103 in order to kill the hostage-rescue team.” This would prevent disclosure of what McKee’s team had learned. That theory was also supported by the fact that the CIA showed up immediately at the scene of the crash, took McKee’s briefcase, and returned it empty. Mueller’s diversions led to his leadership of the Criminal Division at the U.S. Department of Justice, putting him in charge of investigations regarding BCCI. When Mueller started in that role, members of Congress and the media were already critical of the government’s approach to the BCCI affair. Mueller came into the picture telling the Washington Post that there was an “appearance of, one, foot-dragging; two, perhaps a cover-up.” Later he denied the cover-up claim and the suggestion that the CIA may have collaborated with BCCI operatives. But again, Mueller was simply brought in to accomplish the cover-up. The facts were that BCCI was used by the CIA to operate outside of the rule of law through funding of terrorists and other criminal operatives. The bank network was at the root of some of the greatest crimes against the public in the last 50 years, including the Savings & Loan scandal, the Iran-Contra affair, and the creation of the al-Qaeda terrorist network. Mueller was instrumental in obstructing the BCCI investigation led by Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau. During this time, Justice Department prosecutors were instructed not to cooperate with Morgenthau. Describing Mueller’s obstruction of Morgenthau, the Wall Street Journal reported that, “documents were withheld, and attempts were made to block other federal agencies from cooperating.” Describing Mueller’s role in the BCCI cover-up more clearly, reporter Chris Floyd wrote: “When a few prosecutors finally began targeting BCCI’s operations in the late Eighties, President George Herbert Walker Bush boldly moved in with a federal probe directed by Justice Department investigator Robert Mueller. The U.S. Senate later found that the probe had been unaccountably ‘botched’–witnesses went missing, CIA records got ‘lost,’… Lower-ranking prosecutors told of heavy pressure from on high to ‘lay off.’ Most of the big BCCI players went unpunished or, like [Khalib bin] Mahfouz, got off with wrist-slap fines and sanctions. Mueller, of course, wound up as head of the FBI, appointed to the post in July 2001–by George W. Bush.” Yes, in the summer of 2001, when the new Bush Administration suspected it would soon need a cover-up, Mueller was brought in for the job. Although suspect Louis Freeh was FBI Director in the lead-up to the crimes, Mueller knew enough to keep things under wraps. He also had some interesting ties to other 9/11 suspects like Rudy Giuliani, whose career paralleled Mueller’s closely during the Reagan and first Bush administrations. Under Mueller, the FBI began the whitewash of 9/11 immediately. Mueller himself lied repeatedly in the direct aftermath with respect to FBI knowledge of the accused hijackers. He claimed that the alleged hijackers left no paper trail, and suggested that they exercised “extraordinary secrecy” and “discipline never broke down.” In fact, “ring leader” Mohamed Atta went to great lengths to draw attention to himself prior to the attacks. Moreover, the evidence the accused men supposedly left behind was obvious and implausibly convenient for the FBI. Meanwhile, Mueller’s FBI immediately seized control of the investigations at the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and in Shanksville, PA where United Flight 93 was destroyed. Under Mueller, leaders of the Bureau went on to arrest and intimidate witnesses, destroy or withhold evidence, and prevent any independent investigation. With Mueller in the lead, the FBI failed to cooperate with the government investigations into 9/11 and failed miserably to perform basic investigatory tasks. Instead, Mueller celebrated some of the most egregious pre-9/11 failures of the FBI by giving those involved promotions, awards, and cash bonuses. As FBI whistleblower Coleen Rowley later wrote with regard to 9/11, “Robert Mueller (and James Comey as deputy attorney general) presided over a cover-up.” So you are accusing the president of coercion and blackmail? No More like a plea deal, if it happened. And, if the Q narrative is real, there have been many thousands of plea deals. Nice try though (not really), Anonymous Coward 68124708 with your characterization. It reveals much about you. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 66363991  Canada04/05/2019 08:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A bit of info from another thread about Mueller. Mr. Pepperroni thinks that Trump told Mueller that very first day, either you gdo what I say because I have this, this and this on you. If you don’t want to be put to death, you will play the game. Quoting: Pepperroni ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8916905 First off jewilan assange goes with the official version of Sept 11 2001. He's no patriot Second Robert mueller was always a clean up man. After a 12-year stint leading the Bureau, the longest ever since J. Edgar Hoover, Mueller is now seen by many as an honest man serving the interest of the American public. However, that perception cannot be defended once one knows about Mueller’s past. What some people don’t know about Mueller is that he has a long history of leading government investigations that were diversions or cover-ups. These include the investigation into the 1988 bombing of Pan Am Flight 103, the investigation into the terrorist financing Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), and the FBI investigations into the crimes of September 11th, 2001. Today the public is beginning to realize that Mueller’s investigation into Russian alleged collusion with the Trump campaign is a similar diversion. Mueller’s talents were noticed early in his career at the Justice Department. As a U.S. Attorney in Boston during the mid-80s, he helped falsely convict four men for murders they didn’t commit in order to protect a powerful FBI informant—mobster James “Whitey” Bulger.” According to the Boston Globe, Mueller was then appointed as chief investigator of the 1988 bombing of Pan Am 103 in Scotland. The account Mueller produced was a flimsy story that accused a Libyan named Megrahi of coordinating placement of a suitcase bomb that allegedly traveled unaccompanied through several airports to find its way to the doomed flight. Despite Mueller’s persistent defense of this unbelievable tale, Megrahi was released from prison in 2009 and died three years later in Libya. With the Pan Am 103 case, Mueller was covering up facts related to some of the of victims of the bombing—a group of U.S. intelligence specialists led by Major Charles McKee of the Defense Intelligence Agency. McKee had gone to Beirut to find and rescue hostages and, while there, learned about CIA involvement in a drug smuggling operation run through an agency project called COREA. As TIME magazine reported, the likely explanation for the bombing, supported by independent intelligence experts, was that U.S. operatives “targeted Flight 103 in order to kill the hostage-rescue team.” This would prevent disclosure of what McKee’s team had learned. That theory was also supported by the fact that the CIA showed up immediately at the scene of the crash, took McKee’s briefcase, and returned it empty. Mueller’s diversions led to his leadership of the Criminal Division at the U.S. Department of Justice, putting him in charge of investigations regarding BCCI. When Mueller started in that role, members of Congress and the media were already critical of the government’s approach to the BCCI affair. Mueller came into the picture telling the Washington Post that there was an “appearance of, one, foot-dragging; two, perhaps a cover-up.” Later he denied the cover-up claim and the suggestion that the CIA may have collaborated with BCCI operatives. But again, Mueller was simply brought in to accomplish the cover-up. The facts were that BCCI was used by the CIA to operate outside of the rule of law through funding of terrorists and other criminal operatives. The bank network was at the root of some of the greatest crimes against the public in the last 50 years, including the Savings & Loan scandal, the Iran-Contra affair, and the creation of the al-Qaeda terrorist network. Mueller was instrumental in obstructing the BCCI investigation led by Manhattan District Attorney Robert Morgenthau. During this time, Justice Department prosecutors were instructed not to cooperate with Morgenthau. Describing Mueller’s obstruction of Morgenthau, the Wall Street Journal reported that, “documents were withheld, and attempts were made to block other federal agencies from cooperating.” Describing Mueller’s role in the BCCI cover-up more clearly, reporter Chris Floyd wrote: “When a few prosecutors finally began targeting BCCI’s operations in the late Eighties, President George Herbert Walker Bush boldly moved in with a federal probe directed by Justice Department investigator Robert Mueller. The U.S. Senate later found that the probe had been unaccountably ‘botched’–witnesses went missing, CIA records got ‘lost,’… Lower-ranking prosecutors told of heavy pressure from on high to ‘lay off.’ Most of the big BCCI players went unpunished or, like [Khalib bin] Mahfouz, got off with wrist-slap fines and sanctions. Mueller, of course, wound up as head of the FBI, appointed to the post in July 2001–by George W. Bush.” Yes, in the summer of 2001, when the new Bush Administration suspected it would soon need a cover-up, Mueller was brought in for the job. Although suspect Louis Freeh was FBI Director in the lead-up to the crimes, Mueller knew enough to keep things under wraps. He also had some interesting ties to other 9/11 suspects like Rudy Giuliani, whose career paralleled Mueller’s closely during the Reagan and first Bush administrations. Under Mueller, the FBI began the whitewash of 9/11 immediately. Mueller himself lied repeatedly in the direct aftermath with respect to FBI knowledge of the accused hijackers. He claimed that the alleged hijackers left no paper trail, and suggested that they exercised “extraordinary secrecy” and “discipline never broke down.” In fact, “ring leader” Mohamed Atta went to great lengths to draw attention to himself prior to the attacks. Moreover, the evidence the accused men supposedly left behind was obvious and implausibly convenient for the FBI. Meanwhile, Mueller’s FBI immediately seized control of the investigations at the World Trade Center, the Pentagon, and in Shanksville, PA where United Flight 93 was destroyed. Under Mueller, leaders of the Bureau went on to arrest and intimidate witnesses, destroy or withhold evidence, and prevent any independent investigation. With Mueller in the lead, the FBI failed to cooperate with the government investigations into 9/11 and failed miserably to perform basic investigatory tasks. Instead, Mueller celebrated some of the most egregious pre-9/11 failures of the FBI by giving those involved promotions, awards, and cash bonuses. As FBI whistleblower Coleen Rowley later wrote with regard to 9/11, “Robert Mueller (and James Comey as deputy attorney general) presided over a cover-up.” So you are accusing the president of coercion and blackmail? The legal system calls it a "plea deal" What is your evidence that the President has prosecutorial jurisdiction to personally offer a plea deal? |
| Pepperroni
Fck mean people. User ID: 77318231 United States04/05/2019 08:25 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 3 MILLION views Keyboard!! We’ve hit a milestone Patriots!  I’ve always told a ya, the media’s not your friend.” ~ Chris Cuomo … The same media that told you all these lies for the last at least 50 years, is telling you that Joey Bribes won. For by pharmakeia, were all nations deceived. |
| Pepperroni
Fck mean people. User ID: 77318231 United States04/05/2019 08:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A bit of info from another thread about Mueller. Mr. Pepperroni thinks that Trump told Mueller that very first day, either you gdo what I say because I have this, this and this on you. If you don’t want to be put to death, you will play the game. Quoting: Pepperroni ... So you are accusing the president of coercion and blackmail? The legal system calls it a "plea deal" What is your evidence that the President has prosecutorial jurisdiction to personally offer a plea deal? He is the Commander in Chief.  I’ve always told a ya, the media’s not your friend.” ~ Chris Cuomo … The same media that told you all these lies for the last at least 50 years, is telling you that Joey Bribes won. For by pharmakeia, were all nations deceived. |
| Vasily
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36729630 United States04/05/2019 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is your evidence that the President has prosecutorial jurisdiction to personally offer a plea deal? The president has the power to pardon, which is a bit more powerful than prosecutorial jurisdiction, wouldn't you say? Yes, but only for federal crimes which is why SDNY is working on many cases. If he pardons, they wil hit the person with the new case, which may be why he's not pardoning anyone or talking about pardoning. Don't know what the legal answer is to SDNY. I know some will say that Barr is involved with the SDNY because he can tell them not to prosecute something, however, that has never stopped them because they use the power of the press and they're not above discrediting their boss. What's he going to do, fire them? You saw what happened when comey was fired. Barr would be treated worse than the President. The more we see, the more we realize this is a tough game going on. It's been way too quiet today, way too quiet. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36729630 United States04/05/2019 09:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm wondering what is going on with assange. Is he considered a good guy or a bad guy? There's a thread that he was given immunity (by who) and that comey took that immunity away. But that would have been in bo's administration so what did he do for them that they granted him immunity? Especially since her nibs said something about droning him? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36729630 United States04/05/2019 09:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ‏Verified account @SaraCarterDC .@CapitalOne Says ‘No’ to Democrats 'Informal' Request For @realDonaldTrump Records. "You have to use subpoena to get them" | #MuellerReport #WitchHunt 6:10 PM - 5 Apr 2019 [link to twitter.com (secure)] |
| Vasily
User ID: 72304389 United States04/05/2019 09:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What is your evidence that the President has prosecutorial jurisdiction to personally offer a plea deal? The president has the power to pardon, which is a bit more powerful than prosecutorial jurisdiction, wouldn't you say? Yes, but only for federal crimes which is why SDNY is working on many cases. If he pardons, they wil hit the person with the new case, which may be why he's not pardoning anyone or talking about pardoning. Don't know what the legal answer is to SDNY. I know some will say that Barr is involved with the SDNY because he can tell them not to prosecute something, however, that has never stopped them because they use the power of the press and they're not above discrediting their boss. What's he going to do, fire them? You saw what happened when comey was fired. Barr would be treated worse than the President. The more we see, the more we realize this is a tough game going on. It's been way too quiet today, way too quiet. My point is that if the President was made aware of some federal crimes committed by Mueller, it does not seem too farfetched to me that some negotiating could take place to gain Mueller's cooperation in exchange for the guarantee of a pardon for those federal crimes. Admittedly, I have zero experience in the legal field, and am thus speculating entirely. With regards to SDNY, it may not have anything to do with Mueller, right? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36729630 United States04/05/2019 10:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 66363991 What is your evidence that the President has prosecutorial jurisdiction to personally offer a plea deal? The president has the power to pardon, which is a bit more powerful than prosecutorial jurisdiction, wouldn't you say? Yes, but only for federal crimes which is why SDNY is working on many cases. If he pardons, they wil hit the person with the new case, which may be why he's not pardoning anyone or talking about pardoning. Don't know what the legal answer is to SDNY. I know some will say that Barr is involved with the SDNY because he can tell them not to prosecute something, however, that has never stopped them because they use the power of the press and they're not above discrediting their boss. What's he going to do, fire them? You saw what happened when comey was fired. Barr would be treated worse than the President. The more we see, the more we realize this is a tough game going on. It's been way too quiet today, way too quiet. My point is that if the President was made aware of some federal crimes committed by Mueller, it does not seem too farfetched to me that some negotiating could take place to gain Mueller's cooperation in exchange for the guarantee of a pardon for those federal crimes. Admittedly, I have zero experience in the legal field, and am thus speculating entirely. With regards to SDNY, it may not have anything to do with Mueller, right? Well all those guys, including BARR have a history, a long history. Heck when I read about sekulow I was disappointed by the wiki page and sorry to hear he was a big romney supporter. I often wonder how POTUS picks his folks and who recommends them. Anyway, by stating what pepperoni said it's a double edged sword because mueller is cited as a "fixer" brought in to make sure the desired outcome is reached. Imagine if you are a dem reading that, you'd pick up on it right away and assume he was doing his regular "fixer" role but this time for POTUS and that's not what just went on for two years. A better bet is that POTUS, knowing all the dirty laundry, deliberately appointed mueller fully knowing that he and the campaign were cleaner than a hound's tooth. Put mueller in the situation and watch what he does. If he's truly "the fixer" it would give a birds eye view into how he "fixes". We've gotten some hints that Barr got vignettes that looked more like material to cast doubt and for impeachment purposes. Mueller expected him to put it right out there and in so doing, since it's been rumored that the vignettes were sprinkled with grand jury stuff and other stuff that had to remain hidden or barr would go to jail, and don't kid yourself, they'd love to put Barr in jail, assumed Barr would trust him and as one of the group long term, would just send it out there. Ergo the dems could yell impeachment and barr could be discredited all in one fell swoop. Heard one congressman say that mueller was "leaving the judgement of whether or not there was obstruction up to congress". A lot comes out on twitter and if you take all these little clues folks are throwing out I don't think you'd think that the POTUS offered anyone any deals to play along. Rather he may have given the whole mueller team a chance to hang themselves. One giant clue was the reaction of the house and the senate. Demanding they see the report, demanding the American people see the report. After the first guy to say that everyone should see the report was President Trump, weeks before they even thought of it. But yet, they ignored him. A congressman on fox tonight kept insisting that congress and the senate see classified material all the time and the entire unredacted report should be given to them. He was adamant even as the host said but it can't contain grand jury information and it can't contain classified information. Began to wonder if he wanted to see the report to make sure there's nothing about him or his congress and senate colleagues in there because he never seemed to hear the host telling him the things that barr may not release by law, a law they made. It's just my take on it based on reading various tweets, seeing various interviews and hearing regular people call in to talk radio, my humble opinion. |
| Vasily
User ID: 72304389 United States04/05/2019 10:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Vasily The president has the power to pardon, which is a bit more powerful than prosecutorial jurisdiction, wouldn't you say? Yes, but only for federal crimes which is why SDNY is working on many cases. If he pardons, they wil hit the person with the new case, which may be why he's not pardoning anyone or talking about pardoning. Don't know what the legal answer is to SDNY. I know some will say that Barr is involved with the SDNY because he can tell them not to prosecute something, however, that has never stopped them because they use the power of the press and they're not above discrediting their boss. What's he going to do, fire them? You saw what happened when comey was fired. Barr would be treated worse than the President. The more we see, the more we realize this is a tough game going on. It's been way too quiet today, way too quiet. My point is that if the President was made aware of some federal crimes committed by Mueller, it does not seem too farfetched to me that some negotiating could take place to gain Mueller's cooperation in exchange for the guarantee of a pardon for those federal crimes. Admittedly, I have zero experience in the legal field, and am thus speculating entirely. With regards to SDNY, it may not have anything to do with Mueller, right? Well all those guys, including BARR have a history, a long history. Heck when I read about sekulow I was disappointed by the wiki page and sorry to hear he was a big romney supporter. I often wonder how POTUS picks his folks and who recommends them. Anyway, by stating what pepperoni said it's a double edged sword because mueller is cited as a "fixer" brought in to make sure the desired outcome is reached. Imagine if you are a dem reading that, you'd pick up on it right away and assume he was doing his regular "fixer" role but this time for POTUS and that's not what just went on for two years. A better bet is that POTUS, knowing all the dirty laundry, deliberately appointed mueller fully knowing that he and the campaign were cleaner than a hound's tooth. Put mueller in the situation and watch what he does. If he's truly "the fixer" it would give a birds eye view into how he "fixes". We've gotten some hints that Barr got vignettes that looked more like material to cast doubt and for impeachment purposes. Mueller expected him to put it right out there and in so doing, since it's been rumored that the vignettes were sprinkled with grand jury stuff and other stuff that had to remain hidden or barr would go to jail, and don't kid yourself, they'd love to put Barr in jail, assumed Barr would trust him and as one of the group long term, would just send it out there. Ergo the dems could yell impeachment and barr could be discredited all in one fell swoop. Heard one congressman say that mueller was "leaving the judgement of whether or not there was obstruction up to congress". A lot comes out on twitter and if you take all these little clues folks are throwing out I don't think you'd think that the POTUS offered anyone any deals to play along. Rather he may have given the whole mueller team a chance to hang themselves. One giant clue was the reaction of the house and the senate. Demanding they see the report, demanding the American people see the report. After the first guy to say that everyone should see the report was President Trump, weeks before they even thought of it. But yet, they ignored him. A congressman on fox tonight kept insisting that congress and the senate see classified material all the time and the entire unredacted report should be given to them. He was adamant even as the host said but it can't contain grand jury information and it can't contain classified information. Began to wonder if he wanted to see the report to make sure there's nothing about him or his congress and senate colleagues in there because he never seemed to hear the host telling him the things that barr may not release by law, a law they made. It's just my take on it based on reading various tweets, seeing various interviews and hearing regular people call in to talk radio, my humble opinion. Excellent post, 630. |
| Jroy
User ID: 75042949 United States04/05/2019 10:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Vasily The president has the power to pardon, which is a bit more powerful than prosecutorial jurisdiction, wouldn't you say? Yes, but only for federal crimes which is why SDNY is working on many cases. If he pardons, they wil hit the person with the new case, which may be why he's not pardoning anyone or talking about pardoning. Don't know what the legal answer is to SDNY. I know some will say that Barr is involved with the SDNY because he can tell them not to prosecute something, however, that has never stopped them because they use the power of the press and they're not above discrediting their boss. What's he going to do, fire them? You saw what happened when comey was fired. Barr would be treated worse than the President. The more we see, the more we realize this is a tough game going on. It's been way too quiet today, way too quiet. My point is that if the President was made aware of some federal crimes committed by Mueller, it does not seem too farfetched to me that some negotiating could take place to gain Mueller's cooperation in exchange for the guarantee of a pardon for those federal crimes. Admittedly, I have zero experience in the legal field, and am thus speculating entirely. With regards to SDNY, it may not have anything to do with Mueller, right? Well all those guys, including BARR have a history, a long history. Heck when I read about sekulow I was disappointed by the wiki page and sorry to hear he was a big romney supporter. I often wonder how POTUS picks his folks and who recommends them. Anyway, by stating what pepperoni said it's a double edged sword because mueller is cited as a "fixer" brought in to make sure the desired outcome is reached. Imagine if you are a dem reading that, you'd pick up on it right away and assume he was doing his regular "fixer" role but this time for POTUS and that's not what just went on for two years. A better bet is that POTUS, knowing all the dirty laundry, deliberately appointed mueller fully knowing that he and the campaign were cleaner than a hound's tooth. Put mueller in the situation and watch what he does. If he's truly "the fixer" it would give a birds eye view into how he "fixes". We've gotten some hints that Barr got vignettes that looked more like material to cast doubt and for impeachment purposes. Mueller expected him to put it right out there and in so doing, since it's been rumored that the vignettes were sprinkled with grand jury stuff and other stuff that had to remain hidden or barr would go to jail, and don't kid yourself, they'd love to put Barr in jail, assumed Barr would trust him and as one of the group long term, would just send it out there. Ergo the dems could yell impeachment and barr could be discredited all in one fell swoop. Heard one congressman say that mueller was "leaving the judgement of whether or not there was obstruction up to congress". A lot comes out on twitter and if you take all these little clues folks are throwing out I don't think you'd think that the POTUS offered anyone any deals to play along. Rather he may have given the whole mueller team a chance to hang themselves. One giant clue was the reaction of the house and the senate. Demanding they see the report, demanding the American people see the report. After the first guy to say that everyone should see the report was President Trump, weeks before they even thought of it. But yet, they ignored him. A congressman on fox tonight kept insisting that congress and the senate see classified material all the time and the entire unredacted report should be given to them. He was adamant even as the host said but it can't contain grand jury information and it can't contain classified information. Began to wonder if he wanted to see the report to make sure there's nothing about him or his congress and senate colleagues in there because he never seemed to hear the host telling him the things that barr may not release by law, a law they made. It's just my take on it based on reading various tweets, seeing various interviews and hearing regular people call in to talk radio, my humble opinion. Good Job! I like hearing how you put all the info you gathered and gift us a viewpoint of your current universe. Bravo!  Jroy |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36729630 United States04/05/2019 10:32 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Barr is part of the same group he was always part of and we are going to find this out at some point then they'll try and let SDNY do their dirty work and finish off the remainder of the trump folks financially. And they'll go after POTUS and family too. If he's not then maybe they ought to be worrying about that? |
| hillbilly
User ID: 75829441 United States04/05/2019 10:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Indeed, nice job 630. Trump is giving these people the chance to make up for their pasts. Best way to find the bodies is to make the gravediggers a better offer. Water is the only drink for a wise man. Call me a pot but heat me not.-Putin Silence is where God speaks. Anything else is but a poor translation. -Rumi Wanna hear God laugh? Just talk about your plans. An old broom knows all the corners. Slow is steady; steady is smooth; smooth is fast. Success has a thousand fathers but failure only one son. The deeper that sorrow carves into your being, the more joy you can contain.-Gibran |
| Cameldriver
User ID: 76945939 United States04/05/2019 10:52 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't notice you asked about SDNY. That's a horse of another color. That's shoo mer's province and don't forget comey worked there and POTUS fired preet who thought he had everything all sewn up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36729630 If Barr is part of the same group he was always part of and we are going to find this out at some point then they'll try and let SDNY do their dirty work and finish off the remainder of the trump folks financially. And they'll go after POTUS and family too. If he's not then maybe they ought to be worrying about that? Who has Weiner’s Computer? I just remember that the police were sickened and crying about what they saw. Could it be that SDNY has nothing to do with a Trump? Could they be investigating what they found on the computer? Dunno. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 36729630 United States04/05/2019 10:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I didn't notice you asked about SDNY. That's a horse of another color. That's shoo mer's province and don't forget comey worked there and POTUS fired preet who thought he had everything all sewn up. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36729630 If Barr is part of the same group he was always part of and we are going to find this out at some point then they'll try and let SDNY do their dirty work and finish off the remainder of the trump folks financially. And they'll go after POTUS and family too. If he's not then maybe they ought to be worrying about that? Who has Weiner’s Computer? I just remember that the police were sickened and crying about what they saw. Could it be that SDNY has nothing to do with a Trump? Could they be investigating what they found on the computer? Dunno. Have always assumed that the q anon team has weiner's laptop. They have it all but remember something being said that they specifically have that computer. |
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| Pepperroni
Fck mean people. User ID: 74285753 United States04/06/2019 12:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Vasily The president has the power to pardon, which is a bit more powerful than prosecutorial jurisdiction, wouldn't you say? Yes, but only for federal crimes which is why SDNY is working on many cases. If he pardons, they wil hit the person with the new case, which may be why he's not pardoning anyone or talking about pardoning. Don't know what the legal answer is to SDNY. I know some will say that Barr is involved with the SDNY because he can tell them not to prosecute something, however, that has never stopped them because they use the power of the press and they're not above discrediting their boss. What's he going to do, fire them? You saw what happened when comey was fired. Barr would be treated worse than the President. The more we see, the more we realize this is a tough game going on. It's been way too quiet today, way too quiet. My point is that if the President was made aware of some federal crimes committed by Mueller, it does not seem too farfetched to me that some negotiating could take place to gain Mueller's cooperation in exchange for the guarantee of a pardon for those federal crimes. Admittedly, I have zero experience in the legal field, and am thus speculating entirely. With regards to SDNY, it may not have anything to do with Mueller, right? Well all those guys, including BARR have a history, a long history. Heck when I read about sekulow I was disappointed by the wiki page and sorry to hear he was a big romney supporter. I often wonder how POTUS picks his folks and who recommends them. Anyway, by stating what pepperoni said it's a double edged sword because mueller is cited as a "fixer" brought in to make sure the desired outcome is reached. Imagine if you are a dem reading that, you'd pick up on it right away and assume he was doing his regular "fixer" role but this time for POTUS and that's not what just went on for two years. A better bet is that POTUS, knowing all the dirty laundry, deliberately appointed mueller fully knowing that he and the campaign were cleaner than a hound's tooth. Put mueller in the situation and watch what he does. If he's truly "the fixer" it would give a birds eye view into how he "fixes". We've gotten some hints that Barr got vignettes that looked more like material to cast doubt and for impeachment purposes. Mueller expected him to put it right out there and in so doing, since it's been rumored that the vignettes were sprinkled with grand jury stuff and other stuff that had to remain hidden or barr would go to jail, and don't kid yourself, they'd love to put Barr in jail, assumed Barr would trust him and as one of the group long term, would just send it out there. Ergo the dems could yell impeachment and barr could be discredited all in one fell swoop. Heard one congressman say that mueller was "leaving the judgement of whether or not there was obstruction up to congress". A lot comes out on twitter and if you take all these little clues folks are throwing out I don't think you'd think that the POTUS offered anyone any deals to play along. Rather he may have given the whole mueller team a chance to hang themselves. One giant clue was the reaction of the house and the senate. Demanding they see the report, demanding the American people see the report. After the first guy to say that everyone should see the report was President Trump, weeks before they even thought of it. But yet, they ignored him. A congressman on fox tonight kept insisting that congress and the senate see classified material all the time and the entire unredacted report should be given to them. He was adamant even as the host said but it can't contain grand jury information and it can't contain classified information. Began to wonder if he wanted to see the report to make sure there's nothing about him or his congress and senate colleagues in there because he never seemed to hear the host telling him the things that barr may not release by law, a law they made. It's just my take on it based on reading various tweets, seeing various interviews and hearing regular people call in to talk radio, my humble opinion.  I’ve always told a ya, the media’s not your friend.” ~ Chris Cuomo … The same media that told you all these lies for the last at least 50 years, is telling you that Joey Bribes won. For by pharmakeia, were all nations deceived. |
| Pepperroni
Fck mean people. User ID: 74285753 United States04/06/2019 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | @georgepapa19 If the president doesn’t sit down with the leaders of Italy, the U.K. and Australia and have them tell the world how their countries were involved in spying on the Trump team in 2016, the president risks having it done all over again to him in 2020. [link to twitter.com] Exactly. This and more. If these people are not prosecuted, this will happen again. I’ve always told a ya, the media’s not your friend.” ~ Chris Cuomo … The same media that told you all these lies for the last at least 50 years, is telling you that Joey Bribes won. For by pharmakeia, were all nations deceived. |
| Pepperroni
Fck mean people. User ID: 74285753 United States04/06/2019 12:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | After reading pepperoni's post it makes you wonder why this wasn't brought up before. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 36729630 It also makes you wonder why POTUS would have Guiliani anywhere near him, let alone as his personal lawyer through this entire russia russia russia hoax. And now you wonder about jay sekulow? And you wonder if there are any, any honest men and women in DC and for that matter in the blue cities. What are your thoughts about Giuliani in this regard? He knows stuff and is a) helping POTUS with this whole thing, or b) he has bad intent to continue the coverup? 1180 Rudy Giuliani & Wiener/Abedin Laptop Insurance File Q !xowAT4Z3VQ 19 Apr 2018 - 4:50:50 PM Rudy. NYC. Relationships High. “Insurance File.” Quiet until now. Join POTUS’ legal team. Direct discussions avail [now] w/ Mueller. Enjoy the show. They never thought she would lose. CARELESS. Q I’ve always told a ya, the media’s not your friend.” ~ Chris Cuomo … The same media that told you all these lies for the last at least 50 years, is telling you that Joey Bribes won. For by pharmakeia, were all nations deceived. |
| VetsMom
User ID: 76736558 Canada04/06/2019 12:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I took me a bit to figure out what tossing hair had to do with it. Since it's a slow day, from the Cobang 25th anniversary thread: Grunge brought back male singers who sang like men, not women. Quoting: hillbilly In the spirit of healing the wounds of the Clinton years, I offer this selection that's gaining popularity here. It's reminiscent of one from an artist long ago who went too soon, Jim Croce.  [link to www.youtube.com (secure)] I like this song.That is a nice song; liked the video too! "The willingness with which our young people are likely to serve in any war, no matter how justified, shall be directly proportional as to how they perceive the veterans of earlier wars were Treated and Appreciated by their nation." ~ George Washington |
