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QAnon: It's on, don't panic ii

 
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What is plan B if Q turns out to be a psyop? This worries me about the movement, so many people have placed all their eggs in this basket, to fix the broken system. unfortunately the Q narrative fits perfectly in elite narrative, it pacifies the demographic with the most guns while 5g goes up and vaccines and tracking tats are deployed.

Seriously, what is the plan if Q does not work out? I have a hard time entrusting those who think I can not handle the truth with power. Really does not seem that different from what we already have, unfortunately.
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I share your concern about this.
 Quoting: Hooskerdoo


Brits are doing a good job burning down the 5g masts since they've been going up.
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I think that is great and hope we start doing the same. I like many people suffer from a constant ringing in my ears, often have pressure changes and very specific frequencies that are sent to either the left or the right ear. It makes it very difficult to sleep, I get headaches and am often very lethargic.

I just do not like the idea of armed revolution to implement change as I am not sure that has worked out for anyone anywhere in the world at this point. Essentially if Q fails, that seems to be our only fall back and I do not see how that raises up mankind. If this really is a prison planet, how do we ever escape if we can never put war and murder behind us?
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Checking in again from Kentucky. I don't post often but I play catch up every day with this thread and almost feel like I know many of you who post regularly. I feel fortunate to have found this thread only days after KB started it. It feels like a lifeline that keeps me from drowning some days.

I'm hoping the best for us all. I'm praying the best for us all. But knowing of the evils that have gone on in darkness for so long, killing, ensnaring and enslaving...I think of the victims. I think of where this is all going and all the trials we'll see before we reach the prize and it gets heavy on the mind.

I appreciate you all. I'm sending my love to anyone else reading who walks with that heaviness at times. To the watchers on the wall who discern and intercede, I'm lifting YOU in prayer today.
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cheers
hf
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I think everyone needs to understand the following:

THE SYSTEM IS NOT BROKEN

Please, say it a couple times, understand what I am saying.

It's a great system that was designed to prevent these exact things from happening. But that requires the PEOPLE in the system to do their jobs. It requires the people doing the "checking and balancing" to actually do so. Those people are not doing their jobs. They are not following the Constitution.

Look, for a simple corollary: Murder is illegal in every state and by federal law. However, murder still happens at a surprising rate. The problem isn't the laws, how they're written, or not having enough of them. The problem is that people sometimes murder other people for a myriad of reasons, regardless of the laws.

The people in our government have hijacked the system to their own will and cause, and they do it with complete knowledge of what they are doing.
 Quoting: Philly Special


If the system allows itself to be hijacked and corrupted with little to no oversight or recourse for the individual, how is this not broken? How do you magically find the good people to actually run for office and how can you be sure they are good when you will most likely not know them on a personal level?

To me what you have posted affirms to me the system is broken.
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Because you're missing the point. ANY system can fail no matter how elegant, robust, or well thought out.

The finest machine in the world would break in 10 seconds if you started replacing good parts with bad parts. That doesn't mean the machine is bad.

The answer to your question is TERM LIMITS for ALL elected officials. They added term limits to the office of POTUS after FDR became too powerful in that office being there for so long.

Why do we assume that the same doesn't hold true for senators or representatives? How about your state governor or town mayor? The same human nature applies, as it is humans occupying those offices. Power corrupts.

I mean seriously, do you think that Pelosi or McConnell or any of the other long tenured congress critters don't wield an amazing amount of power compared to their newer counterparts?

The incumbency rate for our elected officials is like 80-90%. So with every year you have a handful that are replaced (more often than not it's because the person who had been in that seat retired after being there for 20+ years) but the same people just keep getting elected. They functionally can not be voted out of office for a whole host of reasons.

You say "the system allowed it to be hijacked". The system is words on paper. Those words represent ideas and ideals. They can not defend themselves, nor prevent evil people from using them out of context or flat out ignoring them. Again, an engine can't fix itself, if a mechanic does a poor job the engine will break.

Back to term limits: I realize they won't happen in my lifetime without a major upheaval in our gov't or uprising of the people (the latter of which is the ultimate "check" of our governmental system that the Founders made sure was there). Congress has no reason to write a law forcing term limits on themselves, just like they won't ever write a bill to cut their own pay.

The only real recourse for it to happen is a constitutional convention of the states. If the states could get together and agree on an Amendment to the Constitution enforcing term limits there is nothing congress could do to stop it. They could challenge it in the SC, but they would lose because the term limits on POTUS is already deemed constitutional.

I hope you take no offense, I think the blame gets misplaced sometimes. Our system is a good system functionally that worked for a long time. It is a system worth fighting for.
 Quoting: Philly Special


How do terms limits actually affect the quality or content of character of those who would wish to be leaders? If as many of us believe politicians are just puppets, how can you prevent those who control the world from adapting and installing 'our' leaders more frequently?

No offense, you still have not fixed the system with term limits. That system like an engine that can not fix itself is a good analogy and I would submit you certainly will not end up with a system of good people putting others first when those who currently control it from top to bottom are evil.

Did you ever see the video of Ventura talking about the talking to he got from the seeeyeaye? I am not sure how you get this constitutional convention of the states when so many of the governors have so much to loose. And good luck getting enough good people to take up those offices to get that constitutional congress convened.

Like I asked Hankie, what is plan B if Q is not on our side or simply fails?
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Wish I knew how to parse quotes or delete all but the most recent reply on here.

The CIA and FBI are also problems, I never intended that term limits is the only fix needed, but it'd be a great start. I truly believe that JFK was killed because he intended to take down the CIA. They've been too powerful for too long.
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What is plan B if Q turns out to be a psyop? This worries me about the movement, so many people have placed all their eggs in this basket, to fix the broken system. unfortunately the Q narrative fits perfectly in elite narrative, it pacifies the demographic with the most guns while 5g goes up and vaccines and tracking tats are deployed.

Seriously, what is the plan if Q does not work out? I have a hard time entrusting those who think I can not handle the truth with power. Really does not seem that different from what we already have, unfortunately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73886010


I share your concern about this.
 Quoting: Hooskerdoo


Brits are doing a good job burning down the 5g masts since they've been going up.
 Quoting: keybored


I think that is great and hope we start doing the same. I like many people suffer from a constant ringing in my ears, often have pressure changes and very specific frequencies that are sent to either the left or the right ear. It makes it very difficult to sleep, I get headaches and am often very lethargic.

I just do not like the idea of armed revolution to implement change as I am not sure that has worked out for anyone anywhere in the world at this point. Essentially if Q fails, that seems to be our only fall back and I do not see how that raises up mankind. If this really is a prison planet, how do we ever escape if we can never put war and murder behind us?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73886010


I think the strength in numbers of people prepared to take to the streets in protest must have unnerved them a little as they are used to the majority being silent.

They need to keep the protests up and show they will not put up with the draconian and fascistic enforcement of quarantine.
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Checking in again from Kentucky. I don't post often but I play catch up every day with this thread and almost feel like I know many of you who post regularly. I feel fortunate to have found this thread only days after KB started it. It feels like a lifeline that keeps me from drowning some days.

I'm hoping the best for us all. I'm praying the best for us all. But knowing of the evils that have gone on in darkness for so long, killing, ensnaring and enslaving...I think of the victims. I think of where this is all going and all the trials we'll see before we reach the prize and it gets heavy on the mind.

I appreciate you all. I'm sending my love to anyone else reading who walks with that heaviness at times. To the watchers on the wall who discern and intercede, I'm lifting YOU in prayer today.
 Quoting: Hooskerdoo


Hey fellow Kentuckian, I do the same.

Although I have been posting a little bit.

hi
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Our Republic did not fail, it was overtaken by criminals period, it has to be added to not overthrown. If it gets clean up, you put a heavy penalty on anyone who even looks sideways on doing what was done in the dark of night. I think the death penalty is what would work. Our constitution is with the states, not the federal government. You need to read the founding fathers and understand how it was set up. It is the confederation documents that are the true ruling documents signed by every state. The federal government has taken what does not belong to it. Say this, the World Congress was set up in DC with a new name CFR institute, the state told them to abolish that thing and they put it in under a different name, it caught the name by watching videos from their sight from a woman who was running and running way behind others who called them the World Congress. So, now you know the culprit and this is where they got their marching orders! All the member of the CFR was involved with this. Most are freemasons.

Their counterpart in Great Britain is Chapman? house there.
Rockefeller Foundation set up the CFR here with others, also the ones in Great Britain were in the group there which are the same groups. They also set up all the other things after WW2 as the UN and other groups involved in every country with their members. It is all about money and control of the people.
 Quoting: hankie


What is plan B if Q turns out to be a psyop? This worries me about the movement, so many people have placed all their eggs in this basket, to fix the broken system. unfortunately the Q narrative fits perfectly in elite narrative, it pacifies the demographic with the most guns while 5g goes up and vaccines and tracking tats are deployed.

Seriously, what is the plan if Q does not work out? I have a hard time entrusting those who think I can not handle the truth with power. Really does not seem that different from what we already have, unfortunately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73886010


"Plan B" is actual revolution. That's how the Founders envisioned it. That's why they added the BOR. It's why they said "the power of the government comes at the consent of the governed".

There are no other baskets to put our eggs in. If Trump hadn't come along, we'd be a lot closer or already in a revolution. You won't get this done by a grassroots "outlaw political parties" movement.

I'm not at all saying I want or desire a revolution, I don't. But that's the situation we are in. Most people can tolerate an amount of corruption from the gov't, employers, etc. We get it, people in power are still people, and they will do right by themselves and their own people more often than not.

But it has gone too far. The corruption is too widespread, too obvious. So much so that I think they do it on purpose. They do it without a care if people find out because they know they can't be touched.
 Quoting: Philly Special


I appreciate this post, I agree with you, I am sure they do not care what we know at this point. They are so close to taking full control via 5g, vaccines, tracking tech etc that apparently Trump seems to be for. He has come out for 5g, he is supporting vaccines and he was from tracking technology for immigrants. How long that tracking tech goes from immigrants, to covid19 positives, to those who have/have not taken the vaccine to everyone???

I am sorry for us if the best we can come up with is violence as it will only beget more violence. It will reinforce we cant not and do not deserve any better then what we currently have. Every time we deny our current situation and justify someone else saving us, we put ourselves one step closer to full blown, non discreet slavery.
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I'm a bit of a student of history, so I can say that we are currently near the "weak people make for hard times" section of "Hard times makes strong people, strong people make good times, good times make weak people, weak people make hard times" maxim.

Violence is not desirable, but sometimes it is necessary. Our forefathers fought a revolution once. It was bloody, it was a lot of very hard years. Think about the people that were living 2, 3, 5 years before the revolution started? They didn't want a revolution. Many were killed for speaking of it at all. Families turned on each other.

But it happened whether they wanted it or not. They didn't know if they could trust Washington or Franklin or any of them, but many grabbed a musket and fought.

Made for some really good times, wouldn't you say?
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Did you ever see the video of Ventura talking about the talking to he got from the seeeyeaye? I am not sure how you get this constitutional convention of the states when so many of the governors have so much to loose. And good luck getting enough good people to take up those offices to get that constitutional congress convened.

Like I asked Hankie, what is plan B if Q is not on our side or simply fails?


Wish I knew how to parse quotes or delete all but the most recent reply on here.

The CIA and FBI are also problems, I never intended that term limits is the only fix needed, but it'd be a great start. I truly believe that JFK was killed because he intended to take down the CIA. They've been too powerful for too long.


Just Highlight and delete what you do not want as I did here for illustration
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POTUS
talking about US intelligence

They told me plenty, they told me plenty

:)
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I heard that. As he was finishing up he said something about some things that would be released tonight...
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I caught that too.
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hesright
His judgement cometh and that right soon
It's Satan's time--beware the Luciferians--their goal is elimination of all except followers of Satan
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How did me saying "outlaw political parties" and make them all independent, meaning NO F-ing parties, did you interpret that as a "one party state"??? Thought I was pretty clear...NO PARTIES (meaning none, zero) and no private dealing (punishable by imprisonment). All members can only act on their own behalf for their constituents.
 Quoting: Clair_Voyant


Thread: If you were to contribute to a new form of government, how would you like to see it structured.

Unfortunately our constitutional republic has failed us as it has allowed evil in on both sides. I started this thread some time ago in hopes that people would come together to come up with idea(l)s for a new government. I can not stop asking myself, with the arrival of the internet, why do I need a representative?

Personally I would like to see government that is grounded in wisdom, compassion and service to others and for the life of me, I do not see how that happens in our current forms of government. I would like to see government be something that lifts up humanity as a whole as opposed to what it does now and somehow it must be scale-able and optional.

I have stated a few times on this forum but was always rebuffed that we need to take control of government ourselves by creating an alternative from the personal and local levels on up. We can not create it top down, nor can we use violence to achieve the objective as this will simply get us more of the same.

Maybe someday folks will get fed up with the bread and circuses and decide to take control of their children's future.
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Our Republic did not fail, it was overtaken by criminals period, it has to be added to not overthrown. If it gets clean up, you put a heavy penalty on anyone who even looks sideways on doing what was done in the dark of night. I think the death penalty is what would work. Our constitution is with the states, not the federal government. You need to read the founding fathers and understand how it was set up. It is the confederation documents that are the true ruling documents signed by every state. The federal government has taken what does not belong to it. Say this, the World Congress was set up in DC with a new name CFR institute, the state told them to abolish that thing and they put it in under a different name, it caught the name by watching videos from their sight from a woman who was running and running way behind others who called them the World Congress. So, now you know the culprit and this is where they got their marching orders! All the member of the CFR was involved with this. Most are freemasons.

Their counterpart in Great Britain is Chapman? house there.
Rockefeller Foundation set up the CFR here with others, also the ones in Great Britain were in the group there which are the same groups. They also set up all the other things after WW2 as the UN and other groups involved in every country with their members. It is all about money and control of the people.
 Quoting: hankie


What is plan B if Q turns out to be a psyop? This worries me about the movement, so many people have placed all their eggs in this basket, to fix the broken system. unfortunately the Q narrative fits perfectly in elite narrative, it pacifies the demographic with the most guns while 5g goes up and vaccines and tracking tats are deployed.

Seriously, what is the plan if Q does not work out? I have a hard time entrusting those who think I can not handle the truth with power. Really does not seem that different from what we already have, unfortunately.
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The "Unthinkable"
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Interesting theory as to why POTUS says "invisible enemy"
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That is a load of crap....IMO it applies to "The Cabal"
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same difference

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OMG! I want that man in a full size poster over my bed!!!
Do you think he likes women in their 50s?
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Having been in the military, if you got a pulse and can laugh at his morbid sense of humor you'll be good... ;)
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"All that being said, I respect your position and I hope it work out for you the way that you desire. I myself want something better, something that elevates humanity to the point where we have no need of government or money or systems of control because we will have programmed ourselves with the morals and ethics we deem appropriate, not what someone else thinks is appropriate."
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You and Clair .... First I contend there is no problem with the Constitution as it is already written!!!!! It is fine but the idiots that are subverting it are not. Leave the Constitution alone ... there is nothing else that has not been addressed within that most important work of absolute genius!.
You have lofty aspirations and I agree with your desire to enter a new moral dimension. The Constitution still has already covered your needs to reestablish the governmental parameters. All you will have to do is wait long enough for the lazy humans to adjust their lazy morals and move off dead center of a type 0 civilization. I fear we have a few years yet to get there! Even type 1 is a distant whim, at this point! You and Michio Kaku could bounce ideas off eachother!
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To me, if those who would strive for a better tomorrow deemed the constitution as a starting point or even a part of, I would be all for it. I have never spoke of changing or getting rid of the constitution, just the 'democracy' and 'republic' it finds itself chained to.

I am unsure I want to talk with those who are attached to the system such as Michio with regards to how we should govern ourselves. I feel there is as much wisdom and intelligence to be found outside the system, my actual peers, then those who consider themselves elite to some degree or another. In other words, I care more about what you feel and have to say then Michio.
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What is plan B if Q turns out to be a psyop? This worries me about the movement, so many people have placed all their eggs in this basket, to fix the broken system. unfortunately the Q narrative fits perfectly in elite narrative, it pacifies the demographic with the most guns while 5g goes up and vaccines and tracking tats are deployed.

Seriously, what is the plan if Q does not work out? I have a hard time entrusting those who think I can not handle the truth with power. Really does not seem that different from what we already have, unfortunately.
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I share your concern about this.
 Quoting: Hooskerdoo


You prep for plan B, at this point you should at least know what that might entail and it ain't pretty, tough choices ahead of that's the case.

Prepare for the worst and hope for the best...
Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...They are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty ~ Thomas Jefferson
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What is plan B if Q turns out to be a psyop? This worries me about the movement, so many people have placed all their eggs in this basket, to fix the broken system. unfortunately the Q narrative fits perfectly in elite narrative, it pacifies the demographic with the most guns while 5g goes up and vaccines and tracking tats are deployed.

Seriously, what is the plan if Q does not work out? I have a hard time entrusting those who think I can not handle the truth with power. Really does not seem that different from what we already have, unfortunately.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 73886010


I share your concern about this.
 Quoting: Hooskerdoo


Brits are doing a good job burning down the 5g masts since they've been going up.
 Quoting: keybored


I think that is great and hope we start doing the same. I like many people suffer from a constant ringing in my ears, often have pressure changes and very specific frequencies that are sent to either the left or the right ear. It makes it very difficult to sleep, I get headaches and am often very lethargic.

I just do not like the idea of armed revolution to implement change as I am not sure that has worked out for anyone anywhere in the world at this point. Essentially if Q fails, that seems to be our only fall back and I do not see how that raises up mankind. If this really is a prison planet, how do we ever escape if we can never put war and murder behind us?
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I hear the frequencies too. I have for years. Two and sometimes three at a time. It has a myriad of effects upon the body and can become quite debilitating, at times.
I put myself through what you do to yourself, for years. In 2014 I wound up in the hosp 3 times in two months. I thought I was having Heart issues. I guess I was but it was in the way of horrible anxiety attacks. I had no idea they could be so serious.
I kept the pressure on myself for years. Obama just about killed me. I finally had to just stop everything and isolate myself for a while.
Your questions do not have a way to be neutralized. You will not allow a viable answer because you will continue to wonder what if. It is just how people, who yearn so much for justice and relief from the lack of such, push for the very thing they find so elusive.
You are on the right track, and you are not alone, so stop flogging the dead horse. The answers come when you stop asking fear based questions.
I still can't stop wishing and working toward goodness and understanding, I just don't let the lack of huge success make me crazy anymore. This is going to be a process ......
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Holy hell...that's a lot of fuckin' birds. And I feel that's still underplaying it.
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This is normal for these type birds they do this every year, they flock in large groups go down and feed then move in flocks to another location.
 Quoting: hankie


there was actually a huge thread on here regarding a swarm of birds like these in a Dallas parking lot.
Anyone else remember that one? :)
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I share your concern about this.
 Quoting: Hooskerdoo


Brits are doing a good job burning down the 5g masts since they've been going up.
 Quoting: keybored


I think that is great and hope we start doing the same. I like many people suffer from a constant ringing in my ears, often have pressure changes and very specific frequencies that are sent to either the left or the right ear. It makes it very difficult to sleep, I get headaches and am often very lethargic.

I just do not like the idea of armed revolution to implement change as I am not sure that has worked out for anyone anywhere in the world at this point. Essentially if Q fails, that seems to be our only fall back and I do not see how that raises up mankind. If this really is a prison planet, how do we ever escape if we can never put war and murder behind us?
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I hear the frequencies too. I have for years. Two and sometimes three at a time. It has a myriad of effects upon the body and can become quite debilitating, at times.
I put myself through what you do to yourself, for years. In 2014 I wound up in the hosp 3 times in two months. I thought I was having Heart issues. I guess I was but it was in the way of horrible anxiety attacks. I had no idea they could be so serious.
I kept the pressure on myself for years. Obama just about killed me. I finally had to just stop everything and isolate myself for a while.
Your questions do not have a way to be neutralized. You will not allow a viable answer because you will continue to wonder what if. It is just how people, who yearn so much for justice and relief from the lack of such, push for the very thing they find so elusive.
You are on the right track, and you are not alone, so stop flogging the dead horse. The answers come when you stop asking fear based questions.
I still can't stop wishing and working toward goodness and understanding, I just don't let the lack of huge success make me crazy anymore. This is going to be a process ......
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WOW< Ive been having the same problems as you two :( Severe ringing in head, worse at night. In fact last night was particularly bad, the ringing in head was so intense. It started for me when I was doing radiation last year, on the third week of the treatment it began.
It seems to get particularly bad when Im tired.
Its a horrible feeling and I cant seem to find any answers for it :(
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Brits are doing a good job burning down the 5g masts since they've been going up.
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I think that is great and hope we start doing the same. I like many people suffer from a constant ringing in my ears, often have pressure changes and very specific frequencies that are sent to either the left or the right ear. It makes it very difficult to sleep, I get headaches and am often very lethargic.

I just do not like the idea of armed revolution to implement change as I am not sure that has worked out for anyone anywhere in the world at this point. Essentially if Q fails, that seems to be our only fall back and I do not see how that raises up mankind. If this really is a prison planet, how do we ever escape if we can never put war and murder behind us?
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I hear the frequencies too. I have for years. Two and sometimes three at a time. It has a myriad of effects upon the body and can become quite debilitating, at times.
I put myself through what you do to yourself, for years. In 2014 I wound up in the hosp 3 times in two months. I thought I was having Heart issues. I guess I was but it was in the way of horrible anxiety attacks. I had no idea they could be so serious.
I kept the pressure on myself for years. Obama just about killed me. I finally had to just stop everything and isolate myself for a while.
Your questions do not have a way to be neutralized. You will not allow a viable answer because you will continue to wonder what if. It is just how people, who yearn so much for justice and relief from the lack of such, push for the very thing they find so elusive.
You are on the right track, and you are not alone, so stop flogging the dead horse. The answers come when you stop asking fear based questions.
I still can't stop wishing and working toward goodness and understanding, I just don't let the lack of huge success make me crazy anymore. This is going to be a process ......
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WOW< Ive been having the same problems as you two :( Severe ringing in head, worse at night. In fact last night was particularly bad, the ringing in head was so intense. It started for me when I was doing radiation last year, on the third week of the treatment it began.
It seems to get particularly bad when Im tired.
Its a horrible feeling and I cant seem to find any answers for it :(
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I too have the constant ringing. I read somewhere (maybe even on this thread...) to try this for temporary - sometimes very temporary relief. But it does work. Cup hands over ears with fingers toward and around the back of your head. Drum your ears with the palms of your hands evenly about twenty to thirty times. You should feel the suction from your palms when doing this. For me, this provides relief even if it just lessens the noise or changes the frequency and pitch.
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I share your concern about this.
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Brits are doing a good job burning down the 5g masts since they've been going up.
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I think that is great and hope we start doing the same. I like many people suffer from a constant ringing in my ears, often have pressure changes and very specific frequencies that are sent to either the left or the right ear. It makes it very difficult to sleep, I get headaches and am often very lethargic.

I just do not like the idea of armed revolution to implement change as I am not sure that has worked out for anyone anywhere in the world at this point. Essentially if Q fails, that seems to be our only fall back and I do not see how that raises up mankind. If this really is a prison planet, how do we ever escape if we can never put war and murder behind us?
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I think the strength in numbers of people prepared to take to the streets in protest must have unnerved them a little as they are used to the majority being silent.

They need to keep the protests up and show they will not put up with the draconian and fascistic enforcement of quarantine.
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I agree. I just can not help but think we need an alternate way of doing things if it all goes to poo. So often protests only lead to temporary relief. They play the long game, we should be too.

I used to liken my ideas to a Trojan horse of sorts as I always saw it implemented within a business model. I have never been in position to start my own business as I have always tried to live outside the system as much as possible however I can not help but think business is the perfect alpha testing grounds for a new form a government. Much like business is structured like government now, we should be 'infecting' our idea(l)s into business, creating a new way and exposing others to this new way.

I certainly have lots to say on the subject, some would not be popular or even considered practical or doable, however I have to say what I see headed our way concerns me way more then the objects we would have to over come as far as the 'how' to all of this.
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I too have the constant ringing. I read somewhere (maybe even on this thread...) to try this for temporary - sometimes very temporary relief. But it does work. Cup hands over ears with fingers toward and around the back of your head. Drum your ears with the palms of your hands evenly about twenty to thirty times. You should feel the suction from your palms when doing this. For me, this provides relief even if it just lessens the noise or changes the frequency and pitch.
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Thanks :) I just tried it, got suction from right ear only .
I feel mine is heart or blood pressure related. Heart rate when I got up this morning was 13 then went to 137.
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OMG! I want that man in a full size poster over my bed!!!
Do you think he likes women in their 50s?
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If he doesn't, the one on the right might ;)
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I'm too old I not blind they are cuties.
Sorry I got a headache

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I too have the constant ringing. I read somewhere (maybe even on this thread...) to try this for temporary - sometimes very temporary relief. But it does work. Cup hands over ears with fingers toward and around the back of your head. Drum your ears with the palms of your hands evenly about twenty to thirty times. You should feel the suction from your palms when doing this. For me, this provides relief even if it just lessens the noise or changes the frequency and pitch.
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Thanks :) I just tried it, got suction from right ear only .
I feel mine is heart or blood pressure related. Heart rate when I got up this morning was 13 then went to 137.
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oops meant 135 (not 13) ( Id be dead most likely, if it were 13 ) :)


wtf
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I agree with you totally. The Republic did not last long and was corrupted quite easily. We don't need that again. We need to go forward with a benevolent system where if any corruption happens it is known by the people instantly. I believe Govt's will all be a thing of the past because they have all proven to be totally corrupted. However, I do believe that Q, Trump and teams are leading us out of that corrupt system of slavery and control. I believe we are within the transition to real freedom. Technology that has been withheld is coming forward that will help in the transition. Eventually we will not need money.
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Hi Bluebird, from your heart to God's ear, I hope Q and the Trump connection are legit for the people. Some things have me questioning it, at this point I am on the fence, I feel like it could go either way.

I too am hoping that we can somehow do away with money, both physical and digital. The only way I see us doing that is by 'programming' ourselves knowingly with new (in many instances old) values, morals and high ideals. I cant help but see this being done on the internet much like I see the bad guys using it for their control grid, we too need to utilize it to institute what we want in government.
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Put on Martha Mccallum who had some chineses owner of a copany who manufactures a band that would force you to stay home and quarantine. He was giving her the for the good of everyone speech. If you took off the band the police would be notified.

So, since they have to tell us what is coming next, we already know about the drones and now they're telling us about the bands?

Insanity. The folks in blue states will get behind this right away they're screaming about cities opening beaches in florida and wishing ill on the protesters. How did we get to the point where we all see the same thing and they see it as one thing and we see it as another?
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Wish I knew how to parse quotes or delete all but the most recent reply on here.

The CIA and FBI are also problems, I never intended that term limits is the only fix needed, but it'd be a great start. I truly believe that JFK was killed because he intended to take down the CIA. They've been too powerful for too long.
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I agree, the secret services and societies are a huge problem with the current system as are banks, businesses, many non profits, etc etc etc. Big brother's tentacles reach far and deep, one of the reasons I cant help but think it would be easier to just start over by building something from the ground up that truly gives the power back to the people.

Do you think the founding fathers would approve of representatives if they had the internet? Has any democracy or representative form of government really considered the needed for elected officials since the internet came along? Do you think the black hat deep state folks have no intentions of using the internet as some form of control at some point?
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I think everyone needs to understand the following:

THE SYSTEM IS NOT BROKEN

Please, say it a couple times, understand what I am saying.

It's a great system that was designed to prevent these exact things from happening. But that requires the PEOPLE in the system to do their jobs. It requires the people doing the "checking and balancing" to actually do so. Those people are not doing their jobs. They are not following the Constitution.

Look, for a simple corollary: Murder is illegal in every state and by federal law. However, murder still happens at a surprising rate. The problem isn't the laws, how they're written, or not having enough of them. The problem is that people sometimes murder other people for a myriad of reasons, regardless of the laws.

The people in our government have hijacked the system to their own will and cause, and they do it with complete knowledge of what they are doing.
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If the system allows itself to be hijacked and corrupted with little to no oversight or recourse for the individual, how is this not broken? How do you magically find the good people to actually run for office and how can you be sure they are good when you will most likely not know them on a personal level?

To me what you have posted affirms to me the system is broken.
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Because you're missing the point. ANY system can fail no matter how elegant, robust, or well thought out.

The finest machine in the world would break in 10 seconds if you started replacing good parts with bad parts. That doesn't mean the machine is bad.

The answer to your question is TERM LIMITS for ALL elected officials. They added term limits to the office of POTUS after FDR became too powerful in that office being there for so long.

Why do we assume that the same doesn't hold true for senators or representatives? How about your state governor or town mayor? The same human nature applies, as it is humans occupying those offices. Power corrupts.

I mean seriously, do you think that Pelosi or McConnell or any of the other long tenured congress critters don't wield an amazing amount of power compared to their newer counterparts?

The incumbency rate for our elected officials is like 80-90%. So with every year you have a handful that are replaced (more often than not it's because the person who had been in that seat retired after being there for 20+ years) but the same people just keep getting elected. They functionally can not be voted out of office for a whole host of reasons.

You say "the system allowed it to be hijacked". The system is words on paper. Those words represent ideas and ideals. They can not defend themselves, nor prevent evil people from using them out of context or flat out ignoring them. Again, an engine can't fix itself, if a mechanic does a poor job the engine will break.

Back to term limits: I realize they won't happen in my lifetime without a major upheaval in our gov't or uprising of the people (the latter of which is the ultimate "check" of our governmental system that the Founders made sure was there). Congress has no reason to write a law forcing term limits on themselves, just like they won't ever write a bill to cut their own pay.

The only real recourse for it to happen is a constitutional convention of the states. If the states could get together and agree on an Amendment to the Constitution enforcing term limits there is nothing congress could do to stop it. They could challenge it in the SC, but they would lose because the term limits on POTUS is already deemed constitutional.

I hope you take no offense, I think the blame gets misplaced sometimes. Our system is a good system functionally that worked for a long time. It is a system worth fighting for.
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How do terms limits actually affect the quality or content of character of those who would wish to be leaders? If as many of us believe politicians are just puppets, how can you prevent those who control the world from adapting and installing 'our' leaders more frequently?

No offense, you still have not fixed the system with term limits. That system like an engine that can not fix itself is a good analogy and I would submit you certainly will not end up with a system of good people putting others first when those who currently control it from top to bottom are evil.

Did you ever see the video of Ventura talking about the talking to he got from the seeeyeaye? I am not sure how you get this constitutional convention of the states when so many of the governors have so much to loose. And good luck getting enough good people to take up those offices to get that constitutional congress convened.

Like I asked Hankie, what is plan B if Q is not on our side or simply fails?
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Term limits are a bandaid fix. As our government was originally designed, term limits are unessesary.

The job of representing the republic shouldn't involve lifetime perks... No retirement, no benefits period... They should follow the same laws as the common folk. No insider trading, you should not get rich being in that job.

As designed, you make your livelyhood in the private sector, you as a rep, represent your constituents for a few months in DC, pass some bills etc, then take your happy ass back to private sector until the next session, if you get reelected. Senators should be appointed by state legislature and can be recalled by said legislature immediately if your not representing your state as they thought you would.

The job of representing your state was never meant to enrich you, it was meant to be a duty to your people period.

Get rid of the perks, go back to original design.

Hell they built the Capitol in the swamp because they (founders) wanted you to be miserable, get your job done, and get back to your daily life.

As far as I'm concerned, we need to go back to senators being appointed by the state, reps remain as a popular vote.

President pay = mean wage of country
Senator pay = mean wage of your state
Rep pay = mean wage of your district

You want a pay raise, lift all boats!

Pay for their travel expenses, but not first class, they can fly coach like the rest of us... They are not special! They can't afford a place to live, then they can stay in barracks, if it works for our troops it works for them.

No retirement, PERIOD!

Medical benefits are their responsibility.

You are there to represent, NOT make a career of it!

This is just the tip of the iceberg to get rid or at least minimize corruption.

There's nothing wrong with our constitution or bill of rights, if they just stick to what's in there. Amendments beyond the 10th need to be looked at. You need to have skin in the game to vote, just because you have a pulse and can fill in a bubble does not inheritly qualify you to vote.

Get the government out of all facets of life!

Marriage is a religious practice... Leave it the fuck alone! Civil contracts should not be conflated with religious doctrine at all!

Get out of education. Leave that to parents and their local community, if that causes a community to create a bunch of retards that can't think so be it! We always need low skilled workers. Kiss my ass with your it takes a village mentality.

Unless you're a sheriff or US Marshal then your department is unconstitutional and needs to be abolished.

End the war on drugs!
Bring our troops home!
Abolish DOE, IRS, DEA, FBI, ATF, EPA and every other fucking alaphbet agency out there, you're not needed not matter how many fucking statistics you lie to us with!

tl;dr - take us back to constitutional law as originally intended and let's see how it can actually work, especially since we only got about 100 years under that system before it was hijacked.

Apologies for grammar and spelling, I'm in a mobile device.

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I agree with you totally. The Republic did not last long and was corrupted quite easily. We don't need that again. We need to go forward with a benevolent system where if any corruption happens it is known by the people instantly. I believe Govt's will all be a thing of the past because they have all proven to be totally corrupted. However, I do believe that Q, Trump and teams are leading us out of that corrupt system of slavery and control. I believe we are within the transition to real freedom. Technology that has been withheld is coming forward that will help in the transition. Eventually we will not need money.
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Hi Bluebird, from your heart to God's ear, I hope Q and the Trump connection are legit for the people. Some things have me questioning it, at this point I am on the fence, I feel like it could go either way.

I too am hoping that we can somehow do away with money, both physical and digital. The only way I see us doing that is by 'programming' ourselves knowingly with new (in many instances old) values, morals and high ideals. I cant help but see this being done on the internet much like I see the bad guys using it for their control grid, we too need to utilize it to institute what we want in government.
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Have someone reading some stuff now, just came back to me ans said something about q knowing about events like shootings and how does that sit with me. Have to talk to them about this later and they need to show me exactly what they are talking about. They also threw at me the trump was a democrat so they are doing their agenda and using trump either willingly or through coercion. Did not have the patience at the time to answer back. I said write down your questions and we'll talk later. There's a lot of this going on, people cunningly taking things from q and flipping them in the favor of the bad guys, very convincing.

Like the tweet today that folks in the white house are trying to discourage the POTUS from stopping immigration. Many said it should have been done months ago and it was disappointing that he has continued to allow H1B visas especially since so many American workers have been forced to train their foreign replacements and then are let go. That's like a slave system. How those folks survived that is beyond me, however, I was reminded by an engineer that engineering school is hell and if you can make it through that you can make it through anything lol. Guess they were right but it leave a bad taste in the mouths of the American people that companies we considered good like disney would do that.
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Wish I knew how to parse quotes or delete all but the most recent reply on here.

The CIA and FBI are also problems, I never intended that term limits is the only fix needed, but it'd be a great start. I truly believe that JFK was killed because he intended to take down the CIA. They've been too powerful for too long.
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I agree, the secret services and societies are a huge problem with the current system as are banks, businesses, many non profits, etc etc etc. Big brother's tentacles reach far and deep, one of the reasons I cant help but think it would be easier to just start over by building something from the ground up that truly gives the power back to the people.

Do you think the founding fathers would approve of representatives if they had the internet? Has any democracy or representative form of government really considered the needed for elected officials since the internet came along? Do you think the black hat deep state folks have no intentions of using the internet as some form of control at some point?
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OMG! I want that man in a full size poster over my bed!!!
Do you think he likes women in their 50s?
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Having been in the military, if you got a pulse and can laugh at his morbid sense of humor you'll be good... ;)
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Thank you! And thank you for your service! Can you tell us ladies what those pieces are attached? One looks like a flashlight (left) that tube near shoulder looks like you blow in for a life preserver? What is the object on his right shoulder? Looks like an all-purpose type tool? I find men in uniform so stirring!
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I think everyone needs to understand the following:

THE SYSTEM IS NOT BROKEN

Please, say it a couple times, understand what I am saying.

It's a great system that was designed to prevent these exact things from happening. But that requires the PEOPLE in the system to do their jobs. It requires the people doing the "checking and balancing" to actually do so. Those people are not doing their jobs. They are not following the Constitution.

Look, for a simple corollary: Murder is illegal in every state and by federal law. However, murder still happens at a surprising rate. The problem isn't the laws, how they're written, or not having enough of them. The problem is that people sometimes murder other people for a myriad of reasons, regardless of the laws.

The people in our government have hijacked the system to their own will and cause, and they do it with complete knowledge of what they are doing.
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If the system allows itself to be hijacked and corrupted with little to no oversight or recourse for the individual, how is this not broken? How do you magically find the good people to actually run for office and how can you be sure they are good when you will most likely not know them on a personal level?

To me what you have posted affirms to me the system is broken.
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An interesting quote from the first page of the Bloodlines of Illuminati which I think fits in this conversation. The book was linked here within the last few pages, Fitz Springmeier, 1995.

I do not fear the Illuminati taking over this country and doing away with the Constitution, because they took over this country long ago, and the Constitution has not technically been in effect due to Presidential emergency decrees since W.W. II. Being a follower of Christ does not mean we should fear. Perfect love for Almighty God casts out our fear for the situation He has place us in. Don’t think for a moment you are going to vote the Illuminati out of office. They control the major and minor political parties. They control the process of government, they control the process of information flow, they control the process of creating money and finally they control Christendom. (However,God controls the hearts of His people.)
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If a system can be so corrupted, how is it not broken?
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We go through difficulties during their overlay of our true gov. they have to hide to run anything, that covering is being pulled back, sort of showing Satan without his covering. If you know some states have taken back their statehood during recent years you should read the confederation documents. They are breaking laws that they can be sent to jail for the rest of their natural life. It fine let them think what they please, it not going to help them any. I wait for their demise. Our rights come from God who was put in charge of our country and he gives them time and then pop goes the weasels. If you want to go biblical then read the word and it is going to talk about what happens to those groups of people, just change the names to know the punishment, think Jezebel and Ahab, think of all that has been going on during their time so know where and what their punishment will look much as was done before.
Sorry I got a headache

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Tucker was just talking to ted cruz and apparently there's a loophole in the immigration eo that had tucker so upset that he asked ted cruz if the President was for American jobs. Wish I'd heard it all, tucker seems just as upset as we are.





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