How to disarm Americans by Dan Simpson | |
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User ID: 229373 United States 04/28/2007 12:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1000 dollars and a year in prison? woohoo! Im gonna be an outlaw! “The difference between combat and sport is that in combat you bury the guy who comes in second.” "The more skills you have,the less shit you need" Philosophy of Liberty: [link to illuminati-order.com] email anytime: [email protected] |
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User ID: 229373 United States 04/28/2007 12:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ET, i think its just a matter of resolve.. how much shit should we as Americans take before we start pushing back?Ron Paul has already said that our forefathers rebelled under less oppressive conditions than now... “The difference between combat and sport is that in combat you bury the guy who comes in second.” "The more skills you have,the less shit you need" Philosophy of Liberty: [link to illuminati-order.com] email anytime: [email protected] |
You da Mann, Dan. User ID: 159906 United States 04/28/2007 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Gosh, Dan, why don't you just kill anyone you catch with a gun or ammo? If some terrorist claimed some kind of Constitutional Right to have a gun, just blow the anarchist away. If he wasn't guilty, he wouldn't need a gun, right Dan? While we're at it, why don't you have them pick up a video camera when they are turning in their guns, and let them self-install the video cameras in their homes so we can watch them. Only a criminal with something to hide would object, right Dan? While you're at it, why not change the American flag to a more appropriate NWO flag, or maybe the white flag of surrender. [link to www.toledoblade.com] Quoting: Anonymous Coward 216987Article published Wednesday, April 25, 2007 The disarming of America Photo Dan Simpson, a retired diplomat, is a member of the editorial boards of The Blade and Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Zoom | Photo Reprints LAST week's tragedy at Virginia Tech in which a mentally disturbed person gunned down 32 of America's finest - intelligent young people with futures ahead of them - once again puts the phenomenon of an armed society into focus for Americans. The likely underestimate of how many guns are wandering around America runs at 240 million in a population of about 300 million. What was clear last week is that at least two of those guns were in the wrong hands. When people talk about doing something about guns in America, it often comes down to this: "How could America disarm even if it wanted to? There are so many guns out there." Because I have little or no power to influence the "if" part of the issue, I will stick with the "how." And before anyone starts to hyperventilate and think I'm a crazed liberal zealot wanting to take his gun from his cold, dead hands, let me share my experience of guns. As a child I played cowboys and Indians with cap guns. I had a Daisy Red Ryder B-B gun. My father had in his bedside table drawer an old pistol which I examined surreptitiously from time to time. When assigned to the American embassy in Beirut during the war in Lebanon, I sometimes carried a .357 Magnum, which I could fire accurately. I also learned to handle and fire a variety of weapons while I was there, including Uzis and rocket-propelled grenade launchers. I don't have any problem with hunting, although blowing away animals with high-powered weapons seems a pointless, no-contest affair to me. I suppose I would enjoy the fellowship of the experience with other friends who are hunters. Now, how would one disarm the American population? First of all, federal or state laws would need to make it a crime punishable by a $1,000 fine and one year in prison per weapon to possess a firearm. The population would then be given three months to turn in their guns, without penalty. Hunters would be able to deposit their hunting weapons in a centrally located arsenal, heavily guarded, from which they would be able to withdraw them each hunting season upon presentation of a valid hunting license. The weapons would be required to be redeposited at the end of the season on pain of arrest. When hunters submit a request for their weapons, federal, state, and local checks would be made to establish that they had not been convicted of a violent crime since the last time they withdrew their weapons. In the process, arsenal staff would take at least a quick look at each hunter to try to affirm that he was not obviously unhinged. It would have to be the case that the term "hunting weapon" did not include anti-tank ordnance, assault weapons, rocket-propelled grenade launchers, or other weapons of war. All antique or interesting non-hunting weapons would be required to be delivered to a local or regional museum, also to be under strict 24-hour-a-day guard. There they would be on display, if the owner desired, as part of an interesting exhibit of antique American weapons, as family heirlooms from proud wars past or as part of collections. Gun dealers could continue their work, selling hunting and antique firearms. They would be required to maintain very tight inventories. Any gun sold would be delivered immediately by the dealer to the nearest arsenal or the museum, not to the buyer. The disarmament process would begin after the initial three-month amnesty. Special squads of police would be formed and trained to carry out the work. Then, on a random basis to permit no advance warning, city blocks and stretches of suburban and rural areas would be cordoned off and searches carried out in every business, dwelling, and empty building. All firearms would be seized. The owners of weapons found in the searches would be prosecuted: $1,000 and one year in prison for each firearm. Clearly, since such sweeps could not take place all across the country at the same time. But fairly quickly there would begin to be gun-swept, gun-free areas where there should be no firearms. If there were, those carrying them would be subject to quick confiscation and prosecution. On the streets it would be a question of stop-and-search of anyone, even grandma with her walker, with the same penalties for "carrying." The "gun lobby" would no doubt try to head off in the courts the new laws and the actions to implement them. They might succeed in doing so, although the new approach would undoubtedly prompt new, vigorous debate on the subject. In any case, some jurisdictions would undoubtedly take the opportunity of the chronic slowness of the courts to begin implementing the new approach. America's long land and sea borders present another kind of problem. It is easy to imagine mega-gun dealerships installing themselves in Mexico, and perhaps in more remote parts of the Canadian border area, to funnel guns into the United States. That would constitute a problem for American immigration authorities and the U.S. Coast Guard, but not an insurmountable one over time. There could conceivably also be a rash of score-settling during hunting season as people drew out their weapons, ostensibly to shoot squirrels and deer, and began eliminating various of their perceived two-footed enemies. Given the general nature of hunting weapons and the fact that such killings are frequently time-sensitive, that seems a lesser sort of issue. That is my idea of how it could be done. The desire to do so on the part of the American people is another question altogether, but one clearly raised again by the Blacksburg tragedy. Dan Simpson, a retired diplomat, is a member of the editorial boards of The Blade and Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 159906 United States 04/28/2007 12:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The disarmament process would begin after the initial three-month amnesty. Special squads of police would be formed and trained to carry out the work. Then, on a random basis to permit no advance warning, city blocks and stretches of suburban and rural areas would be cordoned off and searches carried out in every business, dwelling, and empty building. All firearms would be seized. The owners of weapons found in the searches would be prosecuted: $1,000 and one year in prison for each firearm. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 216987Those would be Death Squads. |
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User ID: 206474 United States 04/28/2007 02:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | psychodogbitch said yesterday, "If it's time to bury your guns, it's time to dig them up." Quoting: Evil TwinWisest thing I've read here possibly ever. and as i replied, don't bury those holes, we will need them for something else "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
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User ID: 8404 United States 04/28/2007 02:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | psychodogbitch said yesterday, "If it's time to bury your guns, it's time to dig them up." Quoting: maluWisest thing I've read here possibly ever. and as i replied, don't bury those holes, we will need them for something else LOL, what for? Buzzard's gotta eat, same as worms! |
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User ID: 206474 United States 04/28/2007 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | personnel carriers are legal so are tanks if the main cannon is disarmed you can still mount an M2 50 cal belt fed in semi auto though, and of course a black powder cannon or flame thrower,, so i have heard,,:) "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
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User ID: 8404 United States 04/28/2007 03:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ~scary~slowly read last part~ Ambassador Dan Simpson is the foreign affairs associate editor and a member of the Editorial Board at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Prior to working at the Post-Gazette, he was a career diplomat who worked for every American administration from Lyndon Johnson through George W. Bush. He has served as U.S. Ambassador to several African nations including the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the Central African Republic, and Somalia. Mr. Simpson has also served as served as vice president of the National Defense University in Washington, DC, and as the Deputy Commandant for International Affairs of the U.S. Army War College. against enemies foreign and domestic- speak your mind~ but ride a fast horse |
Trench NLI User ID: 229373 United States 04/28/2007 03:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ~scary~slowly read last part~ Quoting: sheAmbassador Dan Simpson is the foreign affairs associate editor and a member of the Editorial Board at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Prior to working at the Post-Gazette, he was a career diplomat who worked for every American administration from Lyndon Johnson through George W. Bush. He has served as U.S. Ambassador to several African nations including the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the Central African Republic, and Somalia. Mr. Simpson has also served as served as vice president of the National Defense University in Washington, DC, and as the Deputy Commandant for International Affairs of the U.S. Army War College. against enemies foreign and domestic- |
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User ID: 206474 United States 04/28/2007 03:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Quoting: Evil Twin very nice,, very tempting,, that would cute on top of a tank.. "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 8404 United States 04/28/2007 03:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ~scary~slowly read last part~ Quoting: Trench NLI 229373Ambassador Dan Simpson is the foreign affairs associate editor and a member of the Editorial Board at the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. Prior to working at the Post-Gazette, he was a career diplomat who worked for every American administration from Lyndon Johnson through George W. Bush. He has served as U.S. Ambassador to several African nations including the Democratic Republic of the Congo, the Central African Republic, and Somalia. Mr. Simpson has also served as served as vice president of the National Defense University in Washington, DC, and as the Deputy Commandant for International Affairs of the U.S. Army War College. against enemies foreign and domestic- Fucker is a fascit...h i believe the current phrase they use is "third way" all used by the bushes, blair and clinton. think of politics as a big circle with small government-big freedom at the top. these people are at the bottom (opposite freedom) hey, wesley clark was in on waco and he's a hero~ where fascism and communism meet="third way" monopoly controlled (false) capitalism under communist law |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 229665 United States 04/28/2007 06:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i posted this yesterday, good luck dan Quoting: maluthere is not a snowballs chance in hell of this happening without a revolution what if they take it a step futher and lock down EVERY school in the country meaning day care to college and get on the idiot box and say bring us your guns and you can have your sons and daughters back. what would YOU do? i thank God i never brought any children into this world. |
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User ID: 206474 United States 04/28/2007 07:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i posted this yesterday, good luck dan Quoting: Anonymous Coward 229665there is not a snowballs chance in hell of this happening without a revolution what if they take it a step futher and lock down EVERY school in the country meaning day care to college and get on the idiot box and say bring us your guns and you can have your sons and daughters back. what would YOU do? i thank God i never brought any children into this world. "they" have children too what is good for the goose is good for the gander to say i would go beserko,, is an understatement "By way of deception, thou shalt do war." Israel's Mossad "The truth shall set you free." U.S. Central Intelligence Agency Motto |
Andofett User ID: 231384 United States 05/02/2007 05:29 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | To: All closet Nazis living in my beloved America From: Another American who will not put up with this bullshit. Try to take my guns = I'll fight you tooth and nail. Steal my guns = I'll steal them back and then some. Destroy my guns = I've got a machine shop and I'll build my own .50 cal full-auto rifles. Cops and Politicians don't get it. We're a nation of people who want to live free, that's why we don't have Kings or Queens. You start rattling our cages, you're going to end up with the same sleeping giant that kicked the shit out of the Nazis in WW2. This country was founded partially by utilizing guerrilla warfare tactics and we can do it all over again. Take your liberal nazi bullshit and go live in some fucked up country in Europe. |