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LiteaFart
(OP) User ID: 71960652 United States 04/03/2018 12:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump- an economic disaster "Stocks' Second-Quarter Start Is the Worst Since the Great Depression You DO understand that what you call a Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65291295 "trade war" will push more industry onto our shores. Goods might cost more, but employment will be higher. BS. We are not going to build factories to make more goods here like in China. TVs, microwaves, MAGA hats, Ivanka shoes..... We can't compete economically unless we pay our workers cents on the dollar. And it would years to get them up and running. And then they would be staffed by robots! This is nonsense! Last Edited by LiteaFart on 04/03/2018 12:08 AM |
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(OP) User ID: 71960652 United States 04/03/2018 12:07 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump- an economic disaster "Stocks' Second-Quarter Start Is the Worst Since the Great Depression You DO understand that what you call a Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65291295 "trade war" will push more industry onto our shores. Goods might cost more, but employment will be higher. No, I do not and you have a comically simplistic view of economics. And it does NOT happen that way. Look, this all started because of Trump's punitive tariffs on Chinese steel. Do you know that Chinese steel accounts for 2% of our steel imports? Anyway, how will we magically grow new steel factories in the next few months? How much will it cost? A hell of a lot more than imports and product prices shoot up. Inflation. Discretionary spending drops. Durable good orders collapse. Our exports drop because China has retaliated with their tariffs Nobody, and I mean nobody believes that anyone can win a trade war between the world's tow biggest economies. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65291295 United States 04/03/2018 12:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump- an economic disaster "Stocks' Second-Quarter Start Is the Worst Since the Great Depression You DO understand that what you call a Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65291295 "trade war" will push more industry onto our shores. Goods might cost more, but employment will be higher. No, I do not and you have a comically simplistic view of economics. And it does NOT happen that way. Look, this all started because of Trump's punitive tariffs on Chinese steel. Do you know that Chinese steel accounts for 2% of our steel imports? Anyway, how will we magically grow new steel factories in the next few months? How much will it cost? A hell of a lot more than imports and product prices shoot up. Inflation. Discretionary spending drops. Durable good orders collapse. Our exports drop because China has retaliated with their tariffs Nobody, and I mean nobody believes that anyone can win a trade war between the world's tow biggest economies. It will be a process to regrow our industry. This will not happen all at once. China's additional tariffs will just bring more manufacturing to our shores. And yes, there will be trade-offs. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 37381437 United States 04/03/2018 12:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump- an economic disaster "Stocks' Second-Quarter Start Is the Worst Since the Great Depression You DO understand that what you call a Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65291295 "trade war" will push more industry onto our shores. Goods might cost more, but employment will be higher. No, I do not and you have a comically simplistic view of economics. And it does NOT happen that way. Look, this all started because of Trump's punitive tariffs on Chinese steel. Do you know that Chinese steel accounts for 2% of our steel imports? Anyway, how will we magically grow new steel factories in the next few months? How much will it cost? A hell of a lot more than imports and product prices shoot up. Inflation. Discretionary spending drops. Durable good orders collapse. Our exports drop because China has retaliated with their tariffs Nobody, and I mean nobody believes that anyone can win a trade war between the world's tow biggest economies. It will be a process to regrow our industry. This will not happen all at once. China's additional tariffs will just bring more manufacturing to our shores. And yes, there will be trade-offs. That can never happen. Do you honestly believe that anyone wants to invest billions of dollars in steel mills that produce steel that is so expensive that it could never be exported anywhere? How long will that take? America isn't that kind of economy anyway, and hasn't been for 60 years. And you are OK with the cost of that steel causing everything from washing machines to cars to rise in price? Meanwhile, we lose exports on 128 items that the Chinese tariff, including agricultural and pork which will hurt family farms and cause layoffs for other products if they can't find a market. And don't forget...the EU hasn't fired back...yet. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 37381437 United States 04/03/2018 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump- an economic disaster "Stocks' Second-Quarter Start Is the Worst Since the Great Depression As David Rosenberg (@EconguyRosie) summed up so precisely: New math: every tweet by @realDonaldTrump subtracts another 70 points off the Dow. [link to www.zerohedge.com (secure)] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 65291295 United States 04/03/2018 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump- an economic disaster "Stocks' Second-Quarter Start Is the Worst Since the Great Depression You DO understand that what you call a Quoting: Anonymous Coward 65291295 "trade war" will push more industry onto our shores. Goods might cost more, but employment will be higher. No, I do not and you have a comically simplistic view of economics. And it does NOT happen that way. Look, this all started because of Trump's punitive tariffs on Chinese steel. Do you know that Chinese steel accounts for 2% of our steel imports? Anyway, how will we magically grow new steel factories in the next few months? How much will it cost? A hell of a lot more than imports and product prices shoot up. Inflation. Discretionary spending drops. Durable good orders collapse. Our exports drop because China has retaliated with their tariffs Nobody, and I mean nobody believes that anyone can win a trade war between the world's tow biggest economies. It will be a process to regrow our industry. This will not happen all at once. China's additional tariffs will just bring more manufacturing to our shores. And yes, there will be trade-offs. That can never happen. Do you honestly believe that anyone wants to invest billions of dollars in steel mills that produce steel that is so expensive that it could never be exported anywhere? How long will that take? America isn't that kind of economy anyway, and hasn't been for 60 years. And you are OK with the cost of that steel causing everything from washing machines to cars to rise in price? Meanwhile, we lose exports on 128 items that the Chinese tariff, including agricultural and pork which will hurt family farms and cause layoffs for other products if they can't find a market. And don't forget...the EU hasn't fired back...yet. Maybe a little protectionism(there's an old word/concept) is just what we need. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76409738 United States 04/03/2018 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump- an economic disaster "Stocks' Second-Quarter Start Is the Worst Since the Great Depression ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 37381437 No, I do not and you have a comically simplistic view of economics. And it does NOT happen that way. Look, this all started because of Trump's punitive tariffs on Chinese steel. Do you know that Chinese steel accounts for 2% of our steel imports? Anyway, how will we magically grow new steel factories in the next few months? How much will it cost? A hell of a lot more than imports and product prices shoot up. Inflation. Discretionary spending drops. Durable good orders collapse. Our exports drop because China has retaliated with their tariffs Nobody, and I mean nobody believes that anyone can win a trade war between the world's tow biggest economies. It will be a process to regrow our industry. This will not happen all at once. China's additional tariffs will just bring more manufacturing to our shores. And yes, there will be trade-offs. That can never happen. Do you honestly believe that anyone wants to invest billions of dollars in steel mills that produce steel that is so expensive that it could never be exported anywhere? How long will that take? America isn't that kind of economy anyway, and hasn't been for 60 years. And you are OK with the cost of that steel causing everything from washing machines to cars to rise in price? Meanwhile, we lose exports on 128 items that the Chinese tariff, including agricultural and pork which will hurt family farms and cause layoffs for other products if they can't find a market. And don't forget...the EU hasn't fired back...yet. Maybe a little protectionism(there's an old word/concept) is just what we need. Exactly what they said in 1929. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 68027902 United Kingdom 04/03/2018 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump- an economic disaster "Stocks' Second-Quarter Start Is the Worst Since the Great Depression U.S. stocks had their worst April start since 1929, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. The S&P 500 index slumped 2.2 percent, a rout exceeded only by its 2.5 percent decline 89 years ago, a prelude to the devastating crash later that year that brought on the Great Depression. Quoting: LiteaFart It's the old system defending itself. The FED will drop the economy on Trumps head if it feels it's power slipping away. The FED is the boogie man everyone (like you) seem to ignore in this game of thrones. They are guarding all the doors and they are holding all the keys. The care not about the impact on the people, the care about power and control. The head of the swap.... Trump wasn't wise explains why the economy shot up because he was elected as he also left himself open to blame. Blame is important. Cause something and point as many fingers in a direction you as possible to demonise then create a desired result. Until the FED is dealt with, or at least people wake up to the economics and control it has, then debt slavery booms and bust cycles on the whim of a small group of very powerful men will continue depressing the people in to poverty. The fools will likely blame Trump and follow the herd in to debt slavery (and he certainly didn't help himself) but the wise will know who and why such problems are being manufactured but because the fools outnumber the wise, it won't ever change. Trump may be the only president ever to go against the FED in your lifetime (if he does) and with your help and blind allegiance to the current system, you would gladly swat him away because of a manufactured and propagated outrage based on nonsense and feelings. |
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User ID: 75034715 United States 11/23/2018 08:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump- an economic disaster "Stocks' Second-Quarter Start Is the Worst Since the Great Depression If you are going to spread libtard crap, at least make sure it is "real". Hell, we have been finally waiting for this correction. It's about damn time Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak |
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User ID: 77204470 Germany 12/15/2018 10:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump- an economic disaster "Stocks' Second-Quarter Start Is the Worst Since the Great Depression Didn't you know? Drudge has turned anti-Trump now. "Fiery the Angels rose, & as they rose deep thunder roll'd Around their shores: indignant burning with the fires of Orc" - William Blake, America a Prophecy (...also misquoted in Blade Runner by Roy Batty) "Tempus est optimus iudex" - "Time is the best judge" "The very word "'secrecy'" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings." - John F. Kennedy, New York City, April 27, 1961 |
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User ID: 75282507 United States 12/15/2018 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump- an economic disaster "Stocks' Second-Quarter Start Is the Worst Since the Great Depression He has no freaking clue what he is doing. How does anyone bankrupt a casino? Crops are rotting in the fields. Quoting: LiteaFart What crops? Where? Why? How is it Trump's fault? Do you have pics? The crack down on immigrants. [link to www.politifact.com] There are examples like this all over the country. Do you even read the bullshit you post? GFY! Make no assumptions! Good For You! Don't be a useful idiot, supporting GOVERNMENT CORRUPTION, like a partisan . . . . r E j E c T |
Spaginal
User ID: 72948601 United States 12/15/2018 11:06 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump- an economic disaster "Stocks' Second-Quarter Start Is the Worst Since the Great Depression Stock markets tumble because democrats and the media are unhinged lunatics being exposed for the fact that they are seditious moronic lunatics willing to destroy this country to get their ideology and agenda across. You only see retractions with uncertainty, it’s purely paychological, and the soft coup doesn’t inspire confidence that we are moving in a positive direction. Honestly, if Trump dropped the hammer, you’d likely see the biggest single day gain shortly after. |
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User ID: 77204998 United States 12/15/2018 11:09 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump- an economic disaster "Stocks' Second-Quarter Start Is the Worst Since the Great Depression I restructured my purchasing plans for the year and halted all planned hiring. With the dems at the helm of the house, I expect my costs to rise. liberals are awful for small business climate. if tax increases come up, the 2 clowns with the Democrat stickers are first to go. Last Edited by HoldMyBeer... on 12/15/2018 11:11 AM You heard the man. |
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User ID: 77205116 United States 12/15/2018 11:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump- an economic disaster "Stocks' Second-Quarter Start Is the Worst Since the Great Depression Stock markets tumble because democrats and the media are unhinged lunatics being exposed for the fact that they are seditious moronic lunatics willing to destroy this country to get their ideology and agenda across. Quoting: Spaginal You only see retractions with uncertainty, it’s purely paychological, and the soft coup doesn’t inspire confidence that we are moving in a positive direction. Honestly, if Trump dropped the hammer, you’d likely see the biggest single day gain shortly after. For the last two years, Republicans have had control of: The House of Representatives The Senate The Presidency |
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User ID: 72948601 United States 12/15/2018 11:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump- an economic disaster "Stocks' Second-Quarter Start Is the Worst Since the Great Depression I restructured my purchasing plans for the year and halted all planned hiring. With the dems at the house, I expect my costs to rise. Quoting: SuperEliteSpaceForce Exactly, my small business reeled in after the mid term, I don’t like what is coming down the road with democrats in charge of the house. We had to put up with their lunatic antics for two years when they weren’t in power, everything is going to grind to a halt or retract with the upcoming epic shit show. If you are in the business of selling guns you may see an uptick though. |
Spaginal
User ID: 72948601 United States 12/15/2018 11:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Trump- an economic disaster "Stocks' Second-Quarter Start Is the Worst Since the Great Depression Stock markets tumble because democrats and the media are unhinged lunatics being exposed for the fact that they are seditious moronic lunatics willing to destroy this country to get their ideology and agenda across. Quoting: Spaginal You only see retractions with uncertainty, it’s purely paychological, and the soft coup doesn’t inspire confidence that we are moving in a positive direction. Honestly, if Trump dropped the hammer, you’d likely see the biggest single day gain shortly after. For the last two years, Republicans have had control of: The House of Representatives The Senate The Presidency Markets went up because the people on the streets and the non rent seeking business environment seemed to be in a positive mood. Trumps stated agenda IS good for the country. I won’t deny that the RINOs in congress were utter disappointments, but as bad as they did their job the last two years, the markets were gaining until the specter of democrats running the house kicked in along with their incessisant non stop 25/8 hate fest, lies, and misrepresentations. Spending all day talking about how you will unseat a duly elected president for no reason does not create a rich and flourishing economic environment. Businesses want political stability, not the horse shit you morons are causing. |
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