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Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life

 
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Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
Frederik Schulz, a postdoc at the Department of Energy Joint Genome Institute in Walnut Creek, California, and colleagues weren't planning to test the fourth domain scenario when they teamed up with Austrian scientists to investigate the microbes residing in sludge from the Klosterneuburg plant. They used a method known as metagenomics, which involves sequencing all the DNA in a sample to identify the genomic fingerprints of new organisms, rather than directly isolating cells or viruses. Viral DNA fragments kept turning up. When the team assembled some of these fragments into a genome, they concluded that it belongs to a new giant virus, which they named Klosneuvirus. By applying the same techniques to samples from other locales, the team pieced together genomes of three kindred viruses.

These Klosneuviruses stood out because their genomes are more cell-like than those of any previous giant viruses. For example, cells stitch together proteins from 20 types of amino acids, and each has a different enzyme that affixes it to a carrier molecule for delivery to sites of protein synthesis. Other giant viruses carry genes for seven varieties of the attachment enzymes, but between them the Klosneuviruses have genes for all 20.

[link to www.sciencemag.org]
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 Quoting: SARCGASMS

"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

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"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
Interdasting... kinda scary but interdasting. hmm
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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
when viruses start genetically modifying
themselves humans time on this planet
will be short lived
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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
when viruses start genetically modifying
themselves humans time on this planet
will be short lived
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What's really disturbing is that they're doing it in sewage AKA human waste so they've got a jump start on the process. hiding
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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
I don't like the sound of this at all.hf
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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
God's creation is more wonderful and varied than we can imagine.

He created all that is seen and unseen.
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God's creation is more wonderful and varied than we can imagine.

He created all that is seen and unseen.
 Quoting: Vodalus Loves Thecla


Errr.... nope.
"The world will soon wake up to the reality that everyone is broke and can collect nothing from the bankrupt, who are owed unlimited amounts by the insolvent, who are attempting to make late payments on a bank holiday in the wrong country, with an unacceptable currency, against defaulted collateral, of which nobody is sure who holds title."

Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.

The woman who is not pursued sets up the doctrine that pursuit is offensive to her sex, and wants to make it a felony. No genuinely attractive woman has any such desire. - H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women
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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
Sure is some scary shit, either way you look at it

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God's creation is more wonderful and varied than we can imagine.

He created all that is seen and unseen.
 Quoting: Vodalus Loves Thecla


Errr.... nope.
 Quoting: Face Palmer


Logically that's the only conclusion, a creator.

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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
Sure is some scary shit, either way you look at it

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Trillions of viruses rain down on us everyday.
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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
Frederik Schulz, a postdoc at the Department of Energy Joint Genome Institute in Walnut Creek, California, and colleagues weren't planning to test the fourth domain scenario when they teamed up with Austrian scientists to investigate the microbes residing in sludge from the Klosterneuburg plant. They used a method known as metagenomics, which involves sequencing all the DNA in a sample to identify the genomic fingerprints of new organisms, rather than directly isolating cells or viruses. Viral DNA fragments kept turning up. When the team assembled some of these fragments into a genome, they concluded that it belongs to a new giant virus, which they named Klosneuvirus. By applying the same techniques to samples from other locales, the team pieced together genomes of three kindred viruses.

These Klosneuviruses stood out because their genomes are more cell-like than those of any previous giant viruses. For example, cells stitch together proteins from 20 types of amino acids, and each has a different enzyme that affixes it to a carrier molecule for delivery to sites of protein synthesis. Other giant viruses carry genes for seven varieties of the attachment enzymes, but between them the Klosneuviruses have genes for all 20.

[link to www.sciencemag.org]
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2500 Genes ! Damn
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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
Giant poo-eating virusses. Sounds like libtards... angryface
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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
Giant poo-eating virusses. Sounds like libtards... angryface
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nvf
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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
Knowing those silly Aussies they should call them kleenexuviruses...that’s where all the dna coming from.
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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
God's creation is more wonderful and varied than we can imagine.

He created all that is seen and unseen.
 Quoting: Vodalus Loves Thecla


Errr.... nope.
 Quoting: Face Palmer


Logically that's the only conclusion, a creator.
 Quoting: BRIEF


No, it is not. The big bang, and a creator are both illogical.
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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
Giant poo-eating virusses. Sounds like libtards... angryface
 Quoting: Chaos Replicator


:nvf:
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epiclol
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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
Giant poo-eating virusses. Sounds like libtards... angryface
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ohyeah
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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
God's creation is more wonderful and varied than we can imagine.

He created all that is seen and unseen.
 Quoting: Vodalus Loves Thecla


Errr.... nope.
 Quoting: Face Palmer


Logically that's the only conclusion, a creator.
 Quoting: BRIEF


No, it is not. The big bang, and a creator are both illogical.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 2342099


Don't waste your words, Brief.
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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
This is going to be so much fun to troll Australians with...
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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
Could be one of those "the meek shall inherit the earth" moments...
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Re: Giant viruses found in Austrian sewage fuel debate over potential fourth domain of life
This is going to be so much fun to troll Australians with...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76147018


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