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Interfacing With Sleep: MIT Researchers Develop System For Dream Control During Hypnagogic Consciousness

 
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"There is a borderland between waking life and the uncharted wilderness of sleep that we all traverse each night, but we rarely stop to marvel at the strangeness of this liminal world. If we do, we find that it is full of hallucinations both wonderful and terrifying, a mental goulash of reality and fantasy.

Usually we pass through this state of half-wakefulness on our way to deep sleep within minutes. We may experience microdreams during the transition, but the content of these microdreams appear to be random and we usually don’t have any memory of them when we wake. A team of researchers led by MIT master's student Adam Horowitz wants to change that.

Horowitz and his colleagues at the MIT Media Lab have developed a relatively simple device called Dormio to interface with this unique stage of sleep. Their hypothesis is that this liminal period between wakefulness and sleep is a fount of creativity that is usually lost in the ocean of sleep. The thinking is that if you’re able to descend into that stage of sleep and return to consciousness without descending deeper into sleep, you will benefit from the intensely associative thinking that characterizes the strange microdreams experienced during the transition to sleep.

So far Horowitz has tested the device on 8 subjects and found that it is able to reliably maximize the amount of time users spend suspended between wakefulness and sleep, as well as shape the content of the microdreams they experience. In other words, these MIT researchers have developed a low cost device that allows users to interface with sleep.

The technical name for the awareness of the brief period between wakefulness and sleep is hypnagogia, and its something of a mystery for neuroscientists. The reason for this is that determining when someone is actually asleep is a matter of debate among scientists. It’s kind of like trying to determine when someone is ‘actually’ dead: Is it when the heart stops beating, when they lose consciousness, or when cells finally stop replicating?

“Hypnagogic imagery or hallucinations is a normal state of consciousness in the transition from wakefulness to sleep,” Vladas Noreika, a psychologist at Cambridge who was not involved with Dormio, told me in an email. Unlike other sleep states that allow for awareness, such as lucid dreaming during REM sleep, hypnagogia doesn’t require special training to induce its effects. It’s a common phenomenon that is a natural part of the circadian rhythm.

“The big questions are whether we become more creative in this state of consciousness, and why in some cases hypnagogia leads to a full-fledged dreaming, whereas in other cases to dreamless sleep,” Noreika added.

These strange experiences explain why hypnagogic consciousness has been coveted by some of the most brilliant scientific and artistic minds in history. Thomas Edison, Edgar Allen Poe, Vladimir Nabokov, Mary Shelley, Albert Einstein, Salvador Dali, August Kekule, and Richard Wagner all expressed their fascination with hypnagogia and claimed that their experiences in this twilight zone of the mind resulted in sudden bursts of creativity or mental clarity. The idea that “conscious access to underlying, unconscious forces” is at the root of creativity was also echoed and reformulated in a more scientifically rigorous way by the Nobel biophysicist Eric Kandel in the 90s.

In any case, it’s hardly surprising that many of these same thinkers developed a life hack to induce hypnagogic consciousness at will to reap its creative benefits.

"I felt I was nowhere really, in this kind of nowhere space where all of these ideas exist."

The most famous example of purposely induced hypnagogia is probably Thomas Edison’s steel balls trick. According to possibly apocryphal tales, Edison was able to reliably induce hypnagogia by falling asleep with steel balls in his hand. As he drifted off to sleep, his muscles would relax and he would inevitably drop the balls on the floor and the noise from the fall would jolt him back to wakefulness. During these micronaps Edison would never fully fall asleep, but he would experience the strange hallucinations and insights characteristic of hypnagogia.

Dormio has now gone through two iterations, and Horowitz said he and his collaborators are now at work on a third. The first generation of Dormio consisted of an Arduino microcontroller mounted to a glove with a small pressure sensor in the palm that Horowitz designed with his colleagues Ishaan Grover, Sophia Yang and Pedro Reynolds Cuéllar.

Horowitz said the third generation will work just by monitoring eyelid movement in sleeping subjects. The goal is to make Dormio as comfortable, cheap, and non-invasive as possible to make it easier for users to fall asleep while using it."

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"Current HCI research overlooks an opportunity to create human-machine interaction within the unique cognition ongoing during dreams and drowsiness. During sleep onset, a window of opportunity arises in the form of Hypnagogia, a semi-lucid sleep state where we begin dreaming before we fall fully unconscious. To access this state, we developed Dormio, the first interactive interface for sleep, designed for use across levels of consciousness. Here we present evidence for a first use case, directing dream content to augment human creativity. The system enables future HCI research into Hypnagogia, extending interactive technology across levels of consciousness."

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Meddling with powers they don't understand...
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Most people will have no idea what that even means but it is potentially one of the most important discoveries/developments in human history.
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Meddling with powers they don't understand...
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Humans have been exploring the hypnogogic state for at least 10,000 years.

We fully understand. At least those of us who don’t choose ignorance.
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I love this subject, I have had sleep paralysis often throughout my life, I used to fight it, now I let go and enter a realm I control...I write the script. It works every time.
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Shouldn't that be illegal to access someone's sleep cycle, interfere with it, couldn't that dangerous?
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This is knowledge ancient as mankind, not 'new'. And yes, they do not understand what they are doing with these borderland states, which are realms of witchcraft and sorcery. You can trigger this state at will, and exist there as long as you need. But it is usually not a pleasant place to be. The realms of the spectral hyena, pale grey landscapes lit by baleful moons, strange birds and owls, other nightside creatures. The crossroads of the sabbath are also here, as well as certain doors, and entities.
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Lucid dreaming is ok, but you'll eventually run into the problem that while you can exert control over the environment and have godlike power, that once you reach lucidity all the NPC's become hostile.
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Did someone say Hypnagogic consciousness? I've only written about it spanning over 20 years.

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It's about time! I know that Stephen LaBerge has been studying Lucid Dreaming at Stanford for over two decades now. I still use my Nova Dreamer that I bought from the Lucidity Institute in the mid to late 90's. Welcome to Oneironism!!!!

Apparently after two decades, there is a new "mask" out there but I think it does the same thing. Now, however, it can easily be connected to a computer and your dreaming cycles will be recorded from the outside.

A small computer board slides into the mask and it can be programmed to give you Lucid Dreaming cues- it has REM sensors so when you fall into REM sleep and begin to dream, it "notifies" the dreamer to check their state of reality by flashing red LED lights and buzzing- it's up to the individual to decide how bright or how loud it should be- just enough to get your attention and remind your dreaming self that your body is in bed, but you're in another world where you don't have to be tethered by gravity or any other laws of earthly physics.

When I see flashing red lights anywhere, I check my state of awareness. Unfortunately, my brain associates flashing red lights with cops, medics or firefighters, so I'm often torn between reacting to emergency lights and giving my state of reality a quick check- I'll find something to read- anything. If the words smear and blur and the letters change before your "dream" eyes, you might realize you're dreaming. Or I'll try to use my phone or turn on a light switch- that kind of thing never works in my dreams. I'll do something to check my state of reality.

LaBerge performed experiments with his best lucid dreamers. Once the subject realized that they were dreaming, they would communicate with the waking world. The rem eye movements are monitored. When you look left or right in your dream, your eyes will move left or right as well. It's the signal to the lab that the Oneironaut is now dreaming lucidly and about to perform some "experiments" in their dreams. Lucid dream sex studies were fascinating! The dreamers were hooked up to all kinds of "equipment" to measure the physical response to sexual stimulus in the waking world.

Orgasms in the dream world are very real and extremely powerful compared to waking orgasms.

I love my Nova Dreamer. I would link to a photo or a video, but I don't know the godlike link rules.

Dreaming is my favorite science.
Like a river, or maybe a dream...
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This needs to be pinned.

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Oh gee I'm sure that won't be used for nefarious purposes or anything...

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Shouldn't that be illegal to access someone's sleep cycle, interfere with it, couldn't that dangerous?
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it sounds like the user accesses their own sleep state.
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Edison was able to reliably induce hypnagogia by falling asleep with steel balls in his hand. As he drifted off to sleep, his muscles would relax and he would inevitably drop the balls on the floor and the noise from the fall would jolt him back to wakefulness. During these micronaps Edison would never fully fall asleep, but he would experience the strange hallucinations and insights characteristic of hypnagogia.


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That must be when he came up with the great idea to fuck Tesla over lol
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Same thing as sleep apnea only this
method is some kind of spinoff of a
DARPA torture device...
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Yup. Good movie.
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Meddling with powers they don't understand...
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There may be good reasons to pass through this stage of consciousness as quickly as possible.

Or not.
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they've been sending out Dream Spam for ten years already!
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It's about time! I know that Stephen LaBerge has been studying Lucid Dreaming at Stanford for over two decades now. I still use my Nova Dreamer that I bought from the Lucidity Institute in the mid to late 90's. Welcome to Oneironism!!!!

Apparently after two decades, there is a new "mask" out there but I think it does the same thing. Now, however, it can easily be connected to a computer and your dreaming cycles will be recorded from the outside.

A small computer board slides into the mask and it can be programmed to give you Lucid Dreaming cues- it has REM sensors so when you fall into REM sleep and begin to dream, it "notifies" the dreamer to check their state of reality by flashing red LED lights and buzzing- it's up to the individual to decide how bright or how loud it should be- just enough to get your attention and remind your dreaming self that your body is in bed, but you're in another world where you don't have to be tethered by gravity or any other laws of earthly physics.

When I see flashing red lights anywhere, I check my state of awareness. Unfortunately, my brain associates flashing red lights with cops, medics or firefighters, so I'm often torn between reacting to emergency lights and giving my state of reality a quick check- I'll find something to read- anything. If the words smear and blur and the letters change before your "dream" eyes, you might realize you're dreaming. Or I'll try to use my phone or turn on a light switch- that kind of thing never works in my dreams. I'll do something to check my state of reality.

LaBerge performed experiments with his best lucid dreamers. Once the subject realized that they were dreaming, they would communicate with the waking world. The rem eye movements are monitored. When you look left or right in your dream, your eyes will move left or right as well. It's the signal to the lab that the Oneironaut is now dreaming lucidly and about to perform some "experiments" in their dreams. Lucid dream sex studies were fascinating! The dreamers were hooked up to all kinds of "equipment" to measure the physical response to sexual stimulus in the waking world.

Orgasms in the dream world are very real and extremely powerful compared to waking orgasms.

I love my Nova Dreamer. I would link to a photo or a video, but I don't know the godlike link rules.

Dreaming is my favorite science.
 Quoting: Pandora Petal

Also a NOva owner.
Have been waiting for better tech for more success.
Details of the new version.
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Most intelligent people can control their day dreaming and don't need some retarded device to aid them.
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It's about time! I know that Stephen LaBerge has been studying Lucid Dreaming at Stanford for over two decades now. I still use my Nova Dreamer that I bought from the Lucidity Institute in the mid to late 90's. Welcome to Oneironism!!!!

Apparently after two decades, there is a new "mask" out there but I think it does the same thing. Now, however, it can easily be connected to a computer and your dreaming cycles will be recorded from the outside.

A small computer board slides into the mask and it can be programmed to give you Lucid Dreaming cues- it has REM sensors so when you fall into REM sleep and begin to dream, it "notifies" the dreamer to check their state of reality by flashing red LED lights and buzzing- it's up to the individual to decide how bright or how loud it should be- just enough to get your attention and remind your dreaming self that your body is in bed, but you're in another world where you don't have to be tethered by gravity or any other laws of earthly physics.

When I see flashing red lights anywhere, I check my state of awareness. Unfortunately, my brain associates flashing red lights with cops, medics or firefighters, so I'm often torn between reacting to emergency lights and giving my state of reality a quick check- I'll find something to read- anything. If the words smear and blur and the letters change before your "dream" eyes, you might realize you're dreaming. Or I'll try to use my phone or turn on a light switch- that kind of thing never works in my dreams. I'll do something to check my state of reality.

LaBerge performed experiments with his best lucid dreamers. Once the subject realized that they were dreaming, they would communicate with the waking world. The rem eye movements are monitored. When you look left or right in your dream, your eyes will move left or right as well. It's the signal to the lab that the Oneironaut is now dreaming lucidly and about to perform some "experiments" in their dreams. Lucid dream sex studies were fascinating! The dreamers were hooked up to all kinds of "equipment" to measure the physical response to sexual stimulus in the waking world.

Orgasms in the dream world are very real and extremely powerful compared to waking orgasms.

I love my Nova Dreamer. I would link to a photo or a video, but I don't know the godlike link rules.

Dreaming is my favorite science.
 Quoting: Pandora Petal

Also a NOva owner.
Have been waiting for better tech for more success.
Details of the new version.
[link to lucidity.com]
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That's awesome! I don't know anyone else who has a nova dreamer. I feel less alone in the world today. I try to explain how it works, but it's difficult, especially when most people have never even heard of lucid dreaming! I've shown it to only a few people and not a single person knew what I was talking about. You're my Oneironaut friend now! I'll watch for you in the dreaming (the last time I used my nova dreamer I dreamed I was swimming and breathing in kaleidescopic waters! I set mine to the very brightest setting, but I don't use the beeper. That's just really cool to know that you use the Nova Dreamer too, whoever you are! The new one looks very interesting.
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