Islam Was CREATED By The catholic church

Nope. I don't buy that garbage.

The Romans didn't "create" a religion.

Manuscript fragments of the New Testament date back to the late First Century AD.

There's more ancient manuscript evidence for Jesus than ANY other ancient person.

You blabber of "the lack of contemporary evidence" knowing FULL WELL that....

1. Starting after Jesus' death, the Pharisees did everything possible to derail the growth of Christianity.

AND the Romans spent the 250+ years between Christ's death and Contantine's "vision" KILLING Christians.

2. Manuscripts, at the least, have lasted through...

-the Roman destruction of Israel & other wars in the Middle East of the 1st / 2nd Century
-the 250+ years of Roman persecution of Christians and Hebrews that began with Nero
-the "trinitarian" changes made to the Bible beginning around Tertullian's time
-the invasions / expansion of Islam that began after Muhammad's death in 632 AD

Folks expect that Jesus' miracles to be recorded in a pile of ancient tabloid journals somewhere?

Even the Christ-hating Pharisees mention Jesus in the Talmud.

Even IF we didn't have manuscript fragments dating back to the 1st century, scholars could "piece together" the 4 Gospels just from the writings of various church fathers.

---AD 96 Clement Bishop of Rome quotes / refers to 11 books used for the New Testament including Matthew, Mark and Luke.

---AD 108 Ignatius Bishop of Antioch quotes / refers to 24 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels.

---AD 110 Polycarp Bishop of Smyrna quotes / refers to 18 books used for the New Testament including all 4 Gospels.

On TOP of that, there is a growing consensus that the first writings of the Gospels were in Hebrew & Aramaic.

Great post, except no "trinitarian" changes were made to the Bible. The doctrine of the Trinity was already in Sacred Scripture and was just made the official belief of Christianity at a Church council around Tertullian's time. The apostles knew about the Trinity from the moment the Holy Spirit descended on Pentecost.

Really?

1 John 5:7 (KJV version) IS NOT in the the oldest manuscripts.

"Godhead"?

The 3 "godhead" verses found in the KJV are either altered verses or mistranslated. Most newer translations don't use the word.

The trinity "concept" isn't actually in the Bible.

Matthew 28:18 is counter to 7 other verses in the NT concerning baptism "in Jesus' name".

Sorry, I shouldn't have started an argument. Your post was good. I think it's made pretty clear in the first verse of John though. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." And then a few verses later John says "And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us." That's how I see it at least.

No need to apologize.

God Himself didn't become "flesh". He SENT His Son.

The fact remains though that the "trinity" doctrine overlooks SEVERAL key verses said by Jesus Himself.

Thread: Son of God - Jesus' Relationship To The Father - John 17 and More - Bible Study

all of them evil, murderous religions of death and destruction

turkish buffet eaters

FIRST CENTURY ROMAN PAGANS WROTE "THE GOSPEL"

Islam has existed since the 7th century. That was way before the Catholic Church would become the far reaching power they became later. Like 600 years before. This is stupid.

UTTER NONSENSE.

yep all utter nonsense, sky man and his earth seed, mushroom eaters "talking" to the lord, penile mutilation, endless wars, misery, shame, false after death hope, shackels for the soul from the shekel makers, religion, evolution, all bait and switch crap for simple minds

Islam was created by Satan. And the Catholic Church is run by Satan. So I guess there is a connection. Prob not in the way you make it sound though.

You guys have no clue what you are talking about. Maybe you should have paid attention in history class. This is basics.

If you think Christianity was created by the Roman Catholic church, you are very ignorant of church history.

There were many patriarchs like the various orthodox churches. The Pope was just one patriarch.

The apostles and disciples traveled all over the world. They lost touch with England and when the Roman Catholics got around to do an official mission, when they arrived, found Christians already there.

I'll stick with Gibbons' account.

Judges 8:20-22 English Standard Version (ESV)

20 So he said to Jether his firstborn, “Rise and kill them!” But the young man did not draw his sword, for he was afraid, because he was still a young man. 21 Then Zebah and Zalmunna said, “Rise yourself and fall upon us, for as the man is, so is his strength.” And Gideon arose and killed Zebah and Zalmunna, and he took the crescent ornaments that were on the necks of their camels.

Gideon's Ephod

22 Then the men of Israel said to Gideon, “Rule over us, you and your son and your grandson also, for you have saved us from the hand of Midian.”

1300 years ago the Popes never left Rome, you couldn't travel to Mecca, it took a month. Yet, by some magical means the Pope made Mohammed make a religion .... and start Holy Wars.

Yeah, right.


The devil created Islam and now because he hates the ONE TRUE CHURCH (there is no other), the same devil tries to blame the Church.

Laughable really. And some of you actually believe this!

Pathetic

Catholics are satanists. There is nothing about them that is Christian at all. All of the secret societies emanate from the vatican.


Catholics that do not repent will burn in hell for eternity.

This thread is ridiculous. The Catholic Church did not create islam.

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catholic satanist SHILL!

Prayers m not catholic. I’m certainly not satanist. I am a Christian. That said the catholic hatred on this site needs to stop. The Catholic Church is wrong about some things but they aren’t “satanic”. They certainly did NOT create islam. Islam is the greatest deception in history and satan’s greatest victory-making all those poor lost souls think they are following God’s will.

Everyone who believes in Christ as the Savior is on the same team. Stop with this hatred.

CONTROLLED OPPOSITION THAT GOT OUT OF CONTROL
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DID THEY

FUCK THOSE WHO FOLLOW THE CROOKED KORANEY BALONEY

So this is why there are no Mass arrests.

BULL SHIT!

That would be the opposite of truth. There is only one church and one path to Heaven and that is through the ONE HOLY ROMAN CHURCH - the Catholic Church.

It was the Protest (nice name) ants - (Protestants) who left the Church in the 1500's and made up new religions, new methods, new beliefs, and new churches. None of them can forgive sin, none of them actually have a real Eucharist, and all of them are Satanic counterfeits designed to fool people and lead them away from the truth.

Just because Francis is an anti-Pope (the prophets told us an anti-Pope would come) and Rome is full of heretics who are not true Catholics, does not mean the religion is false. It means the faithful are being tested and purified.

The Next Pope will be the greatest in history. Count on that.

Last Edited by jlee2027 on 07/06/2020 02:11 AM