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HPV Vaccines Safe And Effective

 
Reality420  (OP)

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vaccinemercury
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51000 ppm is still classified as just a "trace".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75506446


No, it is not. A "trace" is 0-1ppm and below the detection limit. In vaccines listed as having a "trace" it usually means 0 (zero).

Mikey "The Death Ranger" came up with 51,000 ppb because he's an uneducated ignoramus who doesn't know how to operate his AA-MS. He got close but his stupidity is clear to anyone who has ever used on of these instruments.


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Stay far away from this vaccine its very sinister
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How so?
Please elaborate in light of the Cochrane study discussed in the OP which showed it is very, very safe. Even looking at 73,000 subjects no serious side-effects were noted.
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Do you have data that conflicts with this or is your statement just another anti-science, anti-vax opinion?
Please produce it.


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Now OP, you know that GLPers will only accept health and medical information from known con artists like Mike Adams or Mercola.
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um, drug companies make more money the sicker you are

can you do math?
 Quoting: Catseye


Can you?
Why don't you show us by answering the questions I posed to Trained Noticer in this post:
[link to www.godlikeproductions.com]
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I shall await your answers. Be sure to show your math...


R.
 Quoting: Reality420



you conveniently neglected my point
Forgive your enemies, it messes with their heads.

Thoughts create, mind them well.
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You have presented nothing to discuss on the OP topic of the HPV vaccines, snowflake.
You have merely presented your emotional opinion that 'I hates teh vaccines and teh companies that make them!', and 'I don't like vaccines unless there is an epidemic."
Whatever that means.
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Back to your safe space, snowflake.


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 Quoting: Reality420

Polio, retard. Smallpox. Those are epidemics. Afflictions that threaten populations en masse.

You know, the entire basis of the vaccine industry's creation?

The simple fact is that epidemics are rare, so an industry was invented to level out the peaks and valleys.

You work for a strawman, a modem day snake oil salesmen, and here you are in the most destitute of corners trying to spread your groupthink marketing to drunken doomtards that don't give a fuck.

It's incredibly entertaining to see you here screaming to a room full of anti-vaxers as if we're all listening.

You're almost cringe-worthy with the name calling & shit; you're not good at it.

-Snowflake is played
-the ketteh thing makes me think you're 12
-drooling; that's good, but only if you had any wisdom or intellect to share

The emotion is in the Merck commercial, not in my posts.

But hey, Reality420 knows SCIENCE, bitches!!

Bongtime!
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Meanwhile, this study was retracted:

[link to www.sciencemag.org]

Interesting thing about that study was that they used pertussis toxin to increase the permeability of the blood-brain barrier. Connect the dots on that one gasp
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it would help if the government put a board of US Citizens on these studies to validate their information.


when i say US Citizens, i mean parents of 14 year old daughters .who are not paid by anybody including the government or pharma companies.
Evil controls the ignorant... Climate change is a hoax so is the vax you have been fear-porned into compliance!

Definition Satan from the bible: Satan (Rev 12:7) exercising his subtle (indirect) impact on heathen governments (powers) – i.e. accomplishing his hellish agenda from "behind the scenes."
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Vaccines don't cause autism? Think again

The secret vaccine courts are paying out billions of dollars to vaccine damaged children

Vaccine Court Awards Millions to Two Children with Autism
By Da__d K_rb_
01/14/2013

The federal Vaccine Injury Compensation Program, better known as “vaccine court,” has just awarded millions of dollars to two children with autism for “pain and suffering” and lifelong care of their injuries, which together could cost tens of millions of dollars.

The government did not admit that vaccines caused autism, at least in one of the children. Both cases were “unpublished,” meaning information is limited, and access to medical records and other exhibits is blocked. Much of the information presented here comes from documents found at the vaccine court website.

Some observers will say the vaccine-induced encephalopathy (brain disease) documented in both children is unrelated to their autism spectrum disorder (ASD). Others will say there is plenty of evidence to suggest otherwise.

What’s more, these cases fit the pattern of other petitions, (i.e., Poling and Banks) in which the court ruled (or the government conceded) that vaccines had caused encephalopathy, which in turn produced permanent injury, including symptoms of autism and ultimately an ASD diagnosis.

And most of these children now have taxpayer dollars earmarked for applied behavioral analysis (ABA), an effective therapy specifically designed to treat ASD.
Meanwhile, parents, grandparents, friends and neighbors of both children testified they were developmentally normal, if not advanced for their age when they developed seizures, spiking fevers and other adverse reactions to their vaccines. According to these eyewitnesses, the children never fully recovered, and instead began losing vocabulary, eye contact and interest in others around them, all classic symptoms of regressive autism.

In the first case, involving a 10-year-old boy from Northern California named Ryan Mojabi, the parents allege that “all the vaccinations” received from 2003-2005, and “more specifically, measles-mumps-rubella (MMR) vaccinations,” caused a “severe and debilitating injury to his brain, described as Autism Spectrum Disorder (‘ASD’).”
The parents, who did not want to be interviewed, specifically asserted that Ryan “suffered a Vaccine Table Injury, namely, an encephalopathy” as a result of his MMR vaccination on December 19, 2003.” (“Table injuries” are known, compensable adverse reactions to immunizations.)
Alternatively, they claim that “as a cumulative result of his receipt of each and every vaccination between March 25, 2003 and February 22, 2005, Ryan has suffered . . . neuroimmunologically mediated dysfunctions in the form of asthma and ASD.”

In vaccine court, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services acts as the defendant and Justice Department attorneys act as counsel.

In 2009, Ryan’s case was transferred to vaccine court’s Autism Omnibus Proceedings, according to the docket. A year-and-a-half later, the government conceded that MMR vaccine had indeed caused Ryan’s encephalopathy.
HHS agreed that “Ryan suffered a Table injury under the Vaccine Act — namely, an encephalitis within five to fifteen days following receipt,” of MMR, records show. “This case is appropriate for compensation.”

Whether HHS agreed with Ryan’s parents that his vaccine-induced brain disease led to ASD is unknown. The concession document is under seal.
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Top 8 “immunity builders” that actually contain insanely dangerous ingredients
Monday, November 27, 2017 by: S.D. Wells

#1. Rotateq Rotavirus Vaccine

This insane jab literally contains two strains of circovirus – a deadly disease (that has “mysteriously” spread to America) that kills pigs. This porcine virus has NEVER been tested for safety on human babies and is proven to cause intussusception, which is the twisting and contorting of your intestines that blocks them and can cause death. Pigs in China are dying by the thousands from circovirus, but no human baby has ever been tested for it nor for the effects of the deadly vaccine that contains it.

#2. Flu Shot (aka influenza vaccine)


Yes, the CDC outright lied to every American a decade ago and said mercury was removed from all childhood vaccines, while keeping it in high doses in most multi-dose vials of flu shots, and then recommending them for babies older than six months and pregnant mothers. High mercury content can cause brain damage and central nervous system damage. This is a scientific fact. Plus, no flu shot has ever been proven effective and it says so right on the vaccine insert sheet, that no doctor or nurse ever reads to the patients. The “Fluad” version contains squalene, an oil-based adjuvant linked to chronic inflammation (rheumatoid arthritis).

#3. Small Pox vaccine

Contains infected African Green monkey kidney cells. This insane vaccination also contains modified medium from an eagle, serum from a calf, embalming fluid for the dead and antibiotics. Got allergies?

#4. Meningococcal vaccine

Contains E. coli. Yes, if you’re afraid of eating tainted meat, be very afraid of getting injected with E. coli directly into your muscle tissue and bloodstream, causing your immune system to attack itself while trying to fight the invading deadly pathogens, yet to no avail. No medical doctor has ever or will ever discuss this vaccine danger with the parents of infants and children.

#5. Rabies Vaccine


Contains human albumin. That means you are engaging in cannibalism if you get injected with this vaccine, taking a chance of getting infected by another human’s blood – someone you’ve never met who could have suffered from AIDS, hepatitis B, STDs, and all the infectious diseases you’re trying to avoid by getting vaccinated in the first place. How ironic!

#6. Varicella (Chicken Pox Vaccine)

The most useless, unnecessary, experimental vaccine ever created. This nightmare concoction contains guinea pig cell cultures, human diploid cell cultures, monosodium glutamate (Yes, MSG that gives babies brain damage), fetal bovine serum and antibiotics to boot. Ask your doctor if injecting neurotoxins and blood cells from other babies directly into your baby’s muscle tissue is right for your family’s needs.

#7. Shingles Vaccine (Zoster)


Pay some freaks in white lab coats to mix together some hydrolyzed porcine gelatin (boiled pigs hooves), MRC-5 abortion cells, urea (yes, animal urine), MSG, and inject it into as many black babies as possible, then call it disease prevention. Welcome to America, home of ethnic “cleansing” (population control and reduction) via experimental inoculations.

#8. MMRV

Oh yes, the measles, mumps, rubella and varicella (chicken pox) combo jab contains human lung diploid fibroblasts – a fancy name for the cells taken from an aborted baby that was stolen from the mother and used for experimentation without her permission, or yours for that matter (aka WI-38). Add in some hydrolyzed gelatin, recombinant human albumin (that means genetically modified) and you’ve got a violent, expensive, deadly allergic reaction just waiting to happen.

Want some immunity help that’s not linked to $3 billion in Big Pharma damage payouts? Go get some natural immune building supplements like garlic, oil of oregano, vitamin C, vitamin D3 (especially in winter), colloidal silver, aloe, chlorella, spirulina, and of course, turmeric.

Check out NaturalPedia.com for other natural remedies you won’t find using the infamous and censored “Google” search scheme.

Sources for this article include:

TheDoctorWithin.com

CDC.gov

CDC.news

NCBI.nlm.nih.gov
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epiclol
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Laughing at the title of the thread, not the post above mine
Reality420  (OP)

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I'll note that in all the whiny, fact-free responses to the OP not one person has presented any argument that the high quality study is in error.
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They've all just trolled my thread with idiotic memes and angry anti-vaccine statements...

Just like you'd expect from members of a cult.
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The only one to give a semblance of a reason for their response, which really did not address the OP and the study, was Fret_Wiz who finally and honestly said he just doesn't like vaccines and that HPV infection didn't qualify for his arbitrary "epidemic" status that would require a vaccine.
One wonders how 12000 cancers and 4000 deaths caused by HPV, as well as tens of thousands of CIN 2+ diagnoses that require looping or coning or ablation of the cervix and years of pap smears every 6 months to try and catch the cervical cancer before it becomes invasive, do not qualify as enough cases.
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The rest are so dim they couldn't even come up with a coherent reason they were upset with the study and the OP.
They hate vaccines so they'd rather convince women to get cervical cancer and die rather than get the great ebil and bad juju that their grade-school edumacation has convinced them of.

You know - just like tards.
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Once again - People should not get their medical/scientific information from internet loons. Why would you believe ignoramuses who believe in Flat Earth, PlanetX/Nibiru, Every Comet/Asteroid is Going to Kill Us!!!, the Illuminutty, etc.?
Get your information from recognized experts and your physician.


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it would help if the government put a board of US Citizens on these studies to validate their information.


when i say US Citizens, i mean parents of 14 year old daughters .who are not paid by anybody including the government or pharma companies.
 Quoting: jake


This but it will never happen. Big Pharma is MEGA BIG business.

they don't care about the cattle..they think...so what if it kills a few thousand.
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People have a right to decide to do what they want with their own bodies.
Self agency.
If you want the vaccines get them.
What others do is none of your business.


The very real truth is many people are not injured by vaccines -
but SOME are definitely injured/disabled - even die. Its a quandary isn't it.

Vaccine injuries, drug injuries, drugs that make some more sick then the original issue are unfortunate a fact of introducing substances to your body that are not natural to said body. Chemo and radiation - some seem to remiss - well others die from the treatment.

Before being judgmental and dismissive of people who desire agency over their very own bodies - have a look at something beside this vaccine - and consider history - history where things didn't work out so well -

Research -
Cipro and tendon ruptures
For extra credit: Thalidomide


^^^
These two little issues should give you some pause in your blanket judgements against people who do not want to give agency of their own bodies over to "scientists and doctors" ~
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I'll note that in all the whiny, fact-free responses to the OP not one person has presented any argument that the high quality study is in error.
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They've all just trolled my thread with idiotic memes and angry anti-vaccine statements...

Just like you'd expect from members of a cult.
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The only one to give a semblance of a reason for their response, which really did not address the OP and the study, was Fret_Wiz who finally and honestly said he just doesn't like vaccines and that HPV infection didn't qualify for his arbitrary "epidemic" status that would require a vaccine.
One wonders how 12000 cancers and 4000 deaths caused by HPV, as well as tens of thousands of CIN 2+ diagnoses that require looping or coning or ablation of the cervix and years of pap smears every 6 months to try and catch the cervical cancer before it becomes invasive, do not qualify as enough cases.
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The rest are so dim they couldn't even come up with a coherent reason they were upset with the study and the OP.
They hate vaccines so they'd rather convince women to get cervical cancer and die rather than get the great ebil and bad juju that their grade-school edumacation has convinced them of.

You know - just like tards.
.
Once again - People should not get their medical/scientific information from internet loons. Why would you believe ignoramuses who believe in Flat Earth, PlanetX/Nibiru, Every Comet/Asteroid is Going to Kill Us!!!, the Illuminutty, etc.?
Get your information from recognized experts and your physician.


R.
K00ks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420


You are just a nasty piece of projecting work OP.
I am in a "cult" of questioning big Pharma for 2 reasons - my dad made his fortune working for big Pharma and I sat at the dinner table growing up listening to how they manipulated the public to move product. And 2 - it turns out that its genetically verified that I happen to be a person who cannot metabolize many medications - to the point that I am vaccine disabled.

Oh and my disablement is not all in my head, but verified by doctors the the point I have documentation from the Department of Defense stating my injury is vaccine related. (Anthrax)

Don't be so nasty in your approach - all you do is strengthen the resolve of individuals that have lost trust in the "magical" pharmaceutical industry.
Your approach is certainly not going to change minds.

You so very obviously wanted a nice good fight today and that is why you started this thread to begin with. Either you are getting paid for this or you are just an arbitrary mother fucker who rolled out of bed this morning and thought you would come on over to GLP and give people the "what for" - on a subject you know is contentious.

What is your motive OP?
Besides picking a fight and hollering out that those that disagree with you or question the subject matter are just a bunch of cultists who are stupid.
Do you have anything of value to contribute or do you just enjoy trolling?
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[link to www.bbc.com]
BBC NEWS
Health 9 May 2018
"HPV jab safe and effective, study finds
The analysis by the Cochrane Group provides solid evidence that should reassure parents considering having their daughters immunised, say experts.

It looked at 26 trials involving more than 73,000 girls and women.

Serious side-effects following the vaccine were rare.
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What is the HPV vaccine?
Human Papilloma Virus (HPV) - which can cause abnormal changes to the cells of the cervix or neck of the womb that, if untreated, can lead to cancer."

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Medical Xpress
May 8, 2018, Wiley
"Does HPV vaccination prevent the development of cervical cancer?
New evidence published today in the Cochrane Library shows that human papilloma virus (HPV) vaccines protect against cervical lesions in young women, particularly in those who are vaccinated between the ages of 15 and 26. It also summarizes findings on harms that have been assessed in randomized controlled trials.
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There are many different types of HPV. ... Two of these high-risk types (HPV16 and HPV18) account for about 70% all cases of cervical cancer worldwide. ... Because cervical cancer can take several years to develop, regulatory bodies and international health agencies such as the World Health Organization (WHO) regard cervical lesions as the preferred outcome measure for HPV vaccine trials.

A team of Cochrane researchers has summarized results of 26 studies in 73,428 women conducted across all continents over the last eight years. ... The studies were well-designed, randomizing the women to either HPV vaccine or a placebo.
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The review looked at two groups of people: women who are free of high-risk HPV at the time of vaccination and all women regardless of HPV status at vaccination.
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... They found that in young women who did not carry HPV, vaccination reduced the risk of developing precancer. About 164 per 10,000 women who got placebo and 2 per 10,000 women who got the vaccine went on to develop cervical precancer.

The researchers also looked at data from all enrolled women regardless whether they were free of high-risk HPV at vaccination or not. Among women aged 15 to 26 years, vaccines reduced the risk of cervical precancer associated with HPV16/18 from 341 to 157 per 10,000. HPV vaccination reduced also the risk for any precancer lesions from 559 to 391 per 10,000.
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The evidence also shows that the vaccines do not appear to increase the risk of serious side effects which was about 7% in both HPV vaccinated or control groups."

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Cochrane Press Release:
[link to www.cochrane.org]
Cochrane
News and Events
Does HPV vaccination prevent the development of cervical cancer? Are there harms associated with being vaccinated?

10.1002/14651858.CD009069.pub3
New evidence published today in the Cochrane Library shows that human papilloma virus (HPV) vaccines protect against cervical lesions in young women, particularly in those who are vaccinated between the ages of 15 and 26. It also summarizes findings on harms that have been assessed in randomized controlled trials.
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A team of Cochrane researchers has summarized results of 26 studies in 73,428 women conducted across all continents over the last eight years. Most women in the studies were under the age of 26 years old, although three trials recruited women between 25 and 45 years. The studies were well-designed, randomizing the women to either HPV vaccine or a placebo.
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The review looked at two groups of people: women who are free of high-risk HPV at the time of vaccination and all women regardless of HPV status at vaccination. The effects of the vaccine were measured as precancer associated with HPV16/18 and precancer irrespective of HPV type. The review looked at data from ten trials assessing cervical lesion data at between three and a half to eight years after vaccination.

... They found that in young women who did not carry HPV, vaccination reduced the risk of developing precancer. About 164 per 10,000 women who got placebo and 2 per 10,000 women who got the vaccine went on to develop cervical precancer."

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The abstract for the actual Cochrane study:
[link to cochranelibrary-wiley.com]
Cochrane Library
Cochrane Database of Systematic Reviews
Prophylactic vaccination against human papillomaviruses to prevent cervical cancer and its precursors

Marc Arbyn, Lan Xu, Cindy Simoens, Pierre PL Martin-Hirsch
First published: 9 May 2018
DOI: 10.1002/14651858.CD009069.pub3

"Abstract
Background

Persistent infection with high-risk human papillomaviruses (hrHPV) types is causally linked with the development of cervical precancer and cancer. HPV types 16 and 18 cause approximately 70% of cervical cancers worldwide.
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Main results
We included 26 trials (73,428 participants). Ten trials, with follow-up of 1.3 to 8 years, addressed protection against CIN/AIS. Vaccine safety was evaluated over a period of 6 months to 7 years in 23 studies. Studies were not large enough or of sufficient duration to evaluate cervical cancer outcomes. All but one of the trials was funded by the vaccine manufacturers. We judged most included trials to be at low risk of bias.
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hrHPV negative
HPV vaccines reduce CIN2+, CIN3+, AIS associated with HPV16/18 compared with placebo in adolescent girls and women aged 15 to 26. There is high-certainty evidence that vaccines lower CIN2+ from 164 to 2/10,000 (RR 0.01 (0 to 0.05)) and CIN3+ from 70 to 0/10,000 (RR 0.01 (0.00 to 0.10). There is moderate-certainty evidence that vaccines reduce the risk of AIS from 9 to 0/10,000 (RR 0.10 (0.01 to 0.82).

HPV vaccines reduce the risk of any CIN2+ from 287 to 106/10,000 (RR 0.37 (0.25 to 0.55), high certainty) and probably reduce any AIS lesions from 10 to 0/10,000 (RR 0.1 (0.01 to 0.76), moderate certainty)."

>>>>> Note: In high risk HPV negative patients (hrHPV) the vaccine virtually eliminated CIN associated with HPV types 16/18: 164-->2 per 10,000 for CIN2+ and 70-->0 per 10,000 for CIN3+. It also reduced CIN2+ caused by any cause, any HPV type, any random precancerous mutation from 287-->106 per 10,000.
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"HPV16/18 negative
In those aged 15 to 26 years, vaccines reduce CIN2+ associated with HPV16/18 from 113 to 6 /10,000
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Vaccines reduce any CIN2+ from 231 to 95/10,000"

>>>>> Note: In HPV16/18 negative patients the vaccine again virtually eliminated CIN2+ caused by HPV Type 16/18 from 113-->6 per 10,000. It also reduces the rate of CIN 2+ due to any cause from 231-->95 per 10,000.
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"Adverse effects
The risk of serious adverse events is similar between control and HPV vaccines in women of all ages (669 versus 656/10,000 ... Mortality was 11/10,000 in control groups compared with 14/10,000 (9 to 22) with HPV vaccine (RR 1.29 [0.85 to 1.98]"

>>>>> Note: Serious adverse events and mortality were the same in the control and treated groups. IOW - the vaccine is not associated with serious adverse events or mortality.
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"Pregnancy outcomes
Among those who became pregnant during the studies, we did not find an increased risk of miscarriage (1618 versus 1424/10,000, RR 0.88 (0.68 to 1.14), high certainty) or termination (931 versus 838/10,000 RR 0.90 (0.80 to 1.02), high certainty). The effects on congenital abnormalities and stillbirths are uncertain (RR 1.22 (0.88 to 1.69), moderate certainty and (RR 1.12 (0.68 to 1.83), moderate certainty, respectively)."

>>>>> Note: Miscarriage or termination of pregnancy had the same rate in the control and vaccinated groups meaning the vaccine is not associated with miscarriage. As noted they found that congenital abnormalities and stillbirths are uncertain (RR 1.22 (0.88 to 1.69), moderate certainty and (RR 1.12 (0.68 to 1.83), moderate certainty). If you note that both confidence ranges (0.88 to 1.69, and 0.68 to 1.83) extend from <1.0 (not associated) to >1.0 (associated). Under situations like this the best that can be said is that there is no association shown with the current data.
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"Authors' conclusions
There is high-certainty evidence that HPV vaccines protect against cervical precancer in adolescent girls and young women aged 15 to 26.
The effect is higher for lesions associated with HPV16/18 than for lesions irrespective of HPV type.
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We did not find an increased risk of serious adverse effects. Although the number of deaths is low overall, there were more deaths among women older than 25 years who received the vaccine. ... Increased risk of adverse pregnancy outcomes after HPV vaccination cannot be excluded, although the risk of miscarriage and termination are similar between trial arms. Long-term of follow-up is needed to monitor the impact on cervical cancer, occurrence of rare harms and pregnancy outcomes."

>>>>> Note: Those long term follow up studies searching for "rare harms" are even now being conducted as in the USA the FDA requires surveillance of the safety and efficacy of any vaccine after it is licensed for use in the US. This monitoring is ongoing year after year after year.
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This is just more evidence to add to the huge stack of studies/evidence that the HPV vaccines are both effective and safe.
We have anti-cancer vaccines which can stop women from contracting cervical cancer and either suffering death or a hysterectomy.
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It boggles the mind that there are folks who ignorantly campaign against these vaccines and for cervical cancer...
But, then again, there are morans who advocate for a Flat Earth and for Khemtrailz and Planet X so I guess there are folks that pig-ignorant.
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Have your kids vaccinated against HPV. It is the sane thing to do.
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Have fun.


R.
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Actually they aren't and never will be safe. That's not the point.
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Oh OP - here is another little vaccine problem from History -
So you see History does not speak with 100% feel good accuracy that everything is A-Ok concerning Vaccines.


People have a right to agency over their own bodies. Oh I got distracted, here is a link for you -
[link to www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov (secure)]
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^^^ Notice that link is from a Government Agency.
We can trust them right?
Or are they a Cult?
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Oh this is from that linked article OP - the one from the Government:
US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health:


These data suggest that there may be an increased incidence of certain cancers among the 98 million persons exposed to contaminated polio vaccine in the U.S.; further investigations are clearly justified.



^^^^ Of course the HPV Vaccine is totally safe and effective right?
I mean there has never been a Vaccine problem that has affected 98 million persons before, right???
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Now I dismiss you 420 man - just as I would dismiss anyone who talks nonsense and then just uses personal attacks to rebut conversational concern over said subject.

You are not even worthy of dialog - the links are for others frustrated by your type, the type that may or may not be paid to gaslight a rational thinking mind. I am out of the shot line and walking the other way OP. Bye bye now.
Reality420  (OP)

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People have a right to decide to do what they want with their own bodies.
Self agency.
If you want the vaccines get them.
What others do is none of your business.
 Quoting: Starbird

Of course adults have that right. What is your point?
Do you have any facts or evidence that the study in the OP is in error or are you just whining that someone has intruded on your anti-vaccine safe space?

The very real truth is many people are not injured by vaccines -
but SOME are definitely injured/disabled - even die. Its a quandary isn't it.
 Quoting: Starbird

No, it is not. The very real truth is that virtually no one is seriously injured by vaccines. The rate of serious injury from vaccines is < 1:1,000,000 - much, much, much less than the diseases they prevent.

Vaccine injuries, drug injuries, drugs that make some more sick then the original issue are unfortunate a fact of introducing substances to your body that are not natural to said body. Chemo and radiation - some seem to remiss - well others die from the treatment.
 Quoting: Starbird

I'm having trouble even parsing this into comprehensible English.
You seem to be invoking the Gnaturalistic Fallacy. Just remember that Lead, Mercury, Arsenic, Radium, Cobra Venom, Botulinum toxin, etc., etc. etc. are All Gnatural too.
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Folks take medicines because they have serious diseases and conditions. Medicines that actually have an active ingredient (i.e. - aren't worthless supplements or homeopathetic concoctions) have the ability to harm if taken improperly or cause a bad reaction. They are studied so that they have a known beneficial effect which outweigh the known deleterious effects. That is more than supplements and herbs and phony medicines can say - isn't it? They have never been studied for safety and effectiveness, have they?

Folks get Chemo and Radiation to try and save their lives rather than dying from cancer. The treatments aren't pleasant but they are better than the alternative.

Again - What is your point?

Before being judgmental and dismissive of people who desire agency over their very own bodies - have a look at something beside this vaccine - and consider history - history where things didn't work out so well -

Research -
Cipro and tendon ruptures
For extra credit: Thalidomide

^^^
These two little issues should give you some pause in your blanket judgements against people who do not want to give agency of their own bodies over to "scientists and doctors" ~
 Quoting: Starbird

"have a look at something beside this vaccine"
Why? This post is about this vaccine and, more exactly, this study which shows HPV vaccines are safe and effective.
Why do you want to change the subject?
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BTW - Thalidomide was never approved for use in the USA.
That near-miss 60 years ago is why we have the FDA being so strict with drugs requiring trials that cost $100s of millions of dollars to bring a drug to market.
Of course worthless supplements and herbs get a free pass thanks to Orin Hatch (Utah - The All Gnatural Mormon State and nexus of the Big-Supplement industry.)
They don't have to show they are safe...
Doesn't that make you feel secure when you take your supplements?
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Have any fact or evidence based objection to the OP and the study it discusses?
No?
Didn't think so.


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how would the OP explain countries like japan who've BANNED the MMR vaccine after careful research?

then there's news like this:
[link to www.irishtimes.com (secure)]

some like to "err on the side of caution" with this. that does NOT mean they deny the principle of vaccination, it just means they don't trust big pharma.
why did i send myself to this world?? there must have been a reason.
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Why are they vaccinating boys too?

What about serious complications some girls have had?

What about the lower fertility rate of those vaccinated?

Has ANYONE told these kids that HPV is from GENITAL WARTS and is SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED!?!?

They have known this for 50 years - nuns and celibate don't get it- neither do monogamous couples

Poor old gorgeous actress Farah Fawcett got the anal Cancer from anal warts HPV and died young ... Watch your ass!
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You are just a nasty piece of projecting work OP.
I am in a "cult" of questioning big Pharma for 2 reasons - my dad made his fortune working for big Pharma and I sat at the dinner table growing up listening to how they manipulated the public to move product. And 2 - it turns out that its genetically verified that I happen to be a person who cannot metabolize many medications - to the point that I am vaccine disabled.
 Quoting: Starbird

Let me guess -
You have a MTHFR mutation... just like all the rest of the anti-vaccine loons. You may want to look up what that is since your grade school education seems to have failed you.
Try non-kook sites and real doctors/scientists:
[link to sciencebasedmedicine.org (secure)]
and:
[link to www.skepticalraptor.com (secure)]
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Oh and my disablement is not all in my head, but verified by doctors the the point I have documentation from the Department of Defense stating my injury is vaccine related. (Anthrax)
 Quoting: Starbird

Sure you do.

<snip angry lunacy>
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What is your motive OP?
Besides picking a fight and hollering out that those that disagree with you or question the subject matter are just a bunch of cultists who are stupid.
Do you have anything of value to contribute or do you just enjoy trolling?
 Quoting: Starbird


What is your motive, Starbird? Beside getting mad that someone would make a pro-science, pro-vaccine post with an actual study by respected scientists as evidence that the HPV vaccines are safe and effective.
Do you have anything of value to contribute?


R.
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Now OP, you know that GLPers will only accept health and medical information from known con artists like Mike Adams or Mercola.
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Better than a satanic troll.

Anyone who can't "see" what vaccines are really being used for is, at this point, a satanic troll.
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You are just a nasty piece of projecting work OP.
I am in a "cult" of questioning big Pharma for 2 reasons - my dad made his fortune working for big Pharma and I sat at the dinner table growing up listening to how they manipulated the public to move product. And 2 - it turns out that its genetically verified that I happen to be a person who cannot metabolize many medications - to the point that I am vaccine disabled.
 Quoting: Starbird

Let me guess -
You have a MTHFR mutation... just like all the rest of the anti-vaccine loons. You may want to look up what that is since your grade school education seems to have failed you.
Try non-kook sites and real doctors/scientists:
[link to sciencebasedmedicine.org (secure)]
and:
[link to www.skepticalraptor.com (secure)]
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Oh and my disablement is not all in my head, but verified by doctors the the point I have documentation from the Department of Defense stating my injury is vaccine related. (Anthrax)
 Quoting: Starbird

Sure you do.

<snip angry lunacy>
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What is your motive OP?
Besides picking a fight and hollering out that those that disagree with you or question the subject matter are just a bunch of cultists who are stupid.
Do you have anything of value to contribute or do you just enjoy trolling?
 Quoting: Starbird


What is your motive, Starbird? Beside getting mad that someone would make a pro-science, pro-vaccine post with an actual study by respected scientists as evidence that the HPV vaccines are safe and effective.
Do you have anything of value to contribute?


R.
K00ks lie. Constantly. It's part of the job description.
 Quoting: Reality420


Yes, vaccines really are pro-science, the tech modern vaccines use to destroy people is the most advanced there is. Am I some sort of bottom feeder for rejecting that science?

Go ahead, say it, you filthy "high tech" know it all destroyer!
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Now OP, you know that GLPers will only accept health and medical information from known con artists like Mike Adams or Mercola.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9205517


Better than a satanic troll.

Anyone who can't "see" what vaccines are really being used for is, at this point, a satanic troll.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76553687


Yes that veil has been lifted

We all struggle to research and find the best way to stay healthy and deal with illness when it occurs

The ROCKEFELLER owned medical system is not where we would look anymore
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The ROCKEFELLER owned medical system is not where we look anymore
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Reality420  (OP)

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Oh this is from that linked article OP - the one from the Government:
US National Library of Medicine National Institutes of Health:

These data suggest that there may be an increased incidence of certain cancers among the 98 million persons exposed to contaminated polio vaccine in the U.S.; further investigations are clearly justified.


^^^^ Of course the HPV Vaccine is totally safe and effective right?
I mean there has never been a Vaccine problem that has affected 98 million persons before, right???
 Quoting: Starbird


Ah yes, the SV40 lunacy.
I'm so old I had the Salk IPV in the 1950s and the Sabin OPV in the early 1960s.
Contrary to your one-off cite, there has been no increase in cancers in the population exposed. In fact, the detection of SV40 in those early studies was more than likely false positives.
Try this:
[link to www.skepticalraptor.com (secure)]
and this:
[link to www.skepticalraptor.com (secure)]
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BTW - The injected Salk vaccine was treated with formaldehyde to kill the polio virus which also would kill most of the SV40 virus - big revelation to a researcher like you, isn't it?
Also, eating a virus such as SV40 tends to destroy it via digestion and, since it isn't a gastrointestinal virus, any that remain pass through the digestive system and do not infect. Another big revelation to a researcher like you, isn't it?
Also, humans are exposed to many, many viruses daily which aren't human viruses and therefore do not affect us. Another revelation, huh?
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SV40 is sooooo 1960s.
It is laughable the anti-vaccine cult has to resort to using 60 year old stories to scaremonger about vaccines.


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Reality420  (OP)

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^^^ Notice that link is from a Government Agency.
We can trust them right?
Or are they a Cult?
 Quoting: Starbird


That is not "a Government Agency", tard.
That is a NIH library.
You do know what a library is, don't you?
Libraries do not write the books, they catalogue them by author and subject.
That you think your cite means the article was from a government agency tells me all I need to know about your knowledge of science and research...
My cat knows more than you.


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