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How YouTube ruined binaural beats and alt-help
Guys I am trying hard to relocate old YouTube channels where the binaural beats, rife frequencies and the like brainwave entertainment videos really helped me. Most of the new ones are totally fake, especially the ones with subliminals. In fact after starting those subliminals videos my life turned to worse, I guess they put non-desired subliminals inside, demonic even. The rest new videos are ineffective meditation music, nothing else but a nice, slow music posing as waves, you can barely hear any waves, isochronic tones or binaural beats.

I want to warn you most of the post-2014 videos on YouTube are either demonic or fake.

I've been using brainwave entertainment since about 2008 on and off but recently I've found out the only ones that work are all ones I downloaded from YouTube before 2014 or their reposts by someone else as sometimes videos got deleted and channels closed. But the original, post-2014 ones are crap.

I think the brainwave entertainment thing has become an industry and unfortunately lots of scammers have jumped on the bandwagon. Let me summarize:

Then (2000s to 2014): Mostly pure binaural beats, rife frequencies, brainwaves, isochronic tones mostly about treating anxiety, depression, diabetes, sinus problems, colds, against viruses and ilnesses, etc.

Now (since 2014): All kinds of meditation music and subliminals masked as binaural beats claiming ridiculous things like "changing hair color", "changing race", "making your balls/boobs huge" (lol!), etc. Some of them even make anxiety/depression worse.

Too much saturation, bandwagon jumping and ridiculous requests by YouTube comments have made finding good new binaural beats etc. very difficult.

Here's a good chanell from back then with many videos with pure rife frequencies:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Compare this:


To this - one of the less effective new ones:


It's not just pure vs fancy music either as back then even the fancy music ones were more effective:


This is a repost from 2015, but the original was uploaded somewhere in 2011-2013. Compare it to this new one which is much louder but less effective:

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Re: How YouTube ruined binaural beats and alt-help
The pure beats and waves are still around. I only listen to them last night.
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^They are, but the thing is YouTube's search engine is notoriously bad with dates so it's kinda very hard to find old ones just by condition keywords as the more recent ones usually come first.

Too bad I actually fance some of the claimed effects some newish ones have like teeth straightening or big muscles, the thing is so far I've seen they do not work. All they do is make my depression or anxiety worse, just like pop music so I assume they put not good subliminals in them.
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check this out OP:

[link to solar-center.stanford.edu]
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Also, why do pop and dance music especially trigger my anxiety? Fast songs especially can make me have a panic attack. But why? Why do they affect the HPA axis?
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very cool thread but i always thought none of the youtube binaurals could offer benefits since the audio is ultra slimmed down mp3 or worse. don't they need to be lossless to be truly effective?
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very cool thread but i always thought none of the youtube binaurals could offer benefits since the audio is ultra slimmed down mp3 or worse. don't they need to be lossless to be truly effective?
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Well apparently not in my experience. The early videos are very effective. They help me stay sane as I'm off antidepressants (I have melancholic depression caused by biology - my adrenals are naturally producing less norepinephrine apparently as tricyclic antidepressants help me but SSRIs do not). Without them I can barely fnction in an office environent where there are so many anxiety triggers.
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Re: How YouTube ruined binaural beats and alt-help
most are absolutely great

a few are not that great and some may be fake

you can always buy them instead of listening to them on youtube

there are still plenty of straight of theta wave out there, but many have overlaid other music on top to make it even more pleasing and effective

be sure you are listening to actual youtubes with frequencies associated...,read the description and even the comments if you hear one and find you have questions

they are quite powerful and not evil at all

stop fear mongering and stop spreading lies and deceit
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Also with the early allergy/sinusitis ones I could feel my sinuses let go of tension. With the crappy new ones nothing like that happens. In fact the subliminal ones could cause all kinds of troubles like panic attacks, attracting starnge noises in my house etc.

Too bad they are hard to find in the sea of crap being posted lately.
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Re: How YouTube ruined binaural beats and alt-help
most are absolutely great

a few are not that great and some may be fake

you can always buy them instead of listening to them on youtube

there are still plenty of straight of theta wave out there, but many have overlaid other music on top to make it even more pleasing and effective

be sure you are listening to actual youtubes with frequencies associated...,read the description and even the comments if you hear one and find you have questions

they are quite powerful and not evil at all

stop fear mongering and stop spreading lies and deceit
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76302653


yeah, they have weird ones related to sex, too

so, i do agree with this part of your post, some of them are fake:

Now (since 2014): All kinds of meditation music and subliminals masked as binaural beats claiming ridiculous things


there is such a thing as mind over matter though, but that comes from within, not from some deceiver just trying to scam you for money
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It's not lies, it's the truth - almost everything made since 2015 is crap. The late 2010s are terrible in music as well, as well as in tech (flat GUI, really?!) and cars are uglier.
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very cool thread but i always thought none of the youtube binaurals could offer benefits since the audio is ultra slimmed down mp3 or worse. don't they need to be lossless to be truly effective?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 75732628


Well apparently not in my experience. The early videos are very effective. They help me stay sane as I'm off antidepressants (I have melancholic depression caused by biology - my adrenals are naturally producing less norepinephrine apparently as tricyclic antidepressants help me but SSRIs do not). Without them I can barely fnction in an office environent where there are so many anxiety triggers.
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glad you have some that help you
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It's not lies, it's the truth - almost everything made since 2015 is crap. The late 2010s are terrible in music as well, as well as in tech (flat GUI, really?!) and cars are uglier.
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i'm not looking at dates, but the ones that help and resonate with me and others in my environment usually have huge view count numbers

like i wrote i hv discovered ones tnat dont seem effective, but in my searches those hv been far and few between the others

there are medical doctors who use theta waves to treat patients
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this one is good




[link to youtu.be (secure)]
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bump

By all means, let's keep this thread going.

OP, will you please post the youtube links under those good videos you like instead of just embedding them? That way, we can keep those links until later and don't have to go to the youtube site and wait (forever) for it to load in order to get them.

Today, it feels like the entire Southwest is being carried off by high winds and that plays hell with our connection so it was a waste of time for me trying to get youtube to give me those links.
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Re: How YouTube ruined binaural beats and alt-help
The ones with all the bells and whistles (key words like: reiki, chants, singing bowls, zen music, meditation music, angels, spiritual cleansing, karma cleansing) are usually crap in my experience. At worst they might make things worse, those Indian ones turned my life upside down once, they might be demonic and non-Christian.

The simple ones like pure tones/waves/rife frequencies or ones with waves+wind or/and rain, birds, light music are usually the ones that work good.
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I'd also suggest avoiding those with subliminals, you never know what subliminals they put in there. They also made my depression worse, in fact all those fancy subliminals, bowls, chants, Indian crap made my depression 100 times worse and induced psychosis and negative energy instead of cleansing.

Meanwhile the "old" ones I have from before like Rife frequencies for specific dis-eases and problems and positive vibes melodies work. There's an obvious decline in quality as many people I know into brainwave entertainment and alternative health claim the same.
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Many of the new ones are more focused on praying on people's insecurities like suppposedly changing eye/hair color, making your sexual organs larger, making muscles, losing weight, making your nose smaller, changing your height/gender, teeth whiter, etc. I've tried many for detoxing xenoestrogens like plastic and they didn't do anything.
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where is the procrastination cure binaural?
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Those OM mani whatever vids have no effect whatsoever on me.
Yet, this has:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Always uplifts me. It was originally posted in the early 2010s like 2011 to 2013. I first saw it and downloaded it back in 2013 or 2014. I remember back then almost every video worked on me, now only those old ones work. The few new videos that work are those that are just pure tones.

The positive energy/vibes ones have gone into hippy/granola/yoga practicer territory.
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this one is good




[link to youtu.be (secure)]
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good meditation





[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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05/21/2018 05:58 AM
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Some early ones that work:
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Good, they surpress, not cure, which leads to greater problems down the line.
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use this tone generator;

[link to www.szynalski.com]

UT - 396 Hz - Liberating Guilt and Fear
RE - 417 Hz - Undoing Situations and Facilitating Change
MI - 528 Hz - Transformation and Miracles (DNA Repair)
FA - 639 Hz - Connecting/Relationships
SOL - 741 Hz - Awakening Intuition
LA - 852 Hz - Returning to Spiritual Order

[link to www.szynalski.com]

and

111hz

or

8hz

this tone generator is better than any youtube vid cause it dont compress like yt. pure sound
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Thanks for the information. Will go through all the posts later.
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Try magnetic minds binaural beats on Youtube. Coincidentally I am listening to one of them right now while reading this post. The You-tube comments are very positive for these particular binaural beats.
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]
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[link to www.transparentcorp.com (secure)]

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Re: How YouTube ruined binaural beats and alt-help
Guys I am trying hard to relocate old YouTube channels where the binaural beats, rife frequencies and the like brainwave entertainment videos really helped me. Most of the new ones are totally fake, especially the ones with subliminals. In fact after starting those subliminals videos my life turned to worse, I guess they put non-desired subliminals inside, demonic even. The rest new videos are ineffective meditation music, nothing else but a nice, slow music posing as waves, you can barely hear any waves, isochronic tones or binaural beats.

I want to warn you most of the post-2014 videos on YouTube are either demonic or fake.

I've been using brainwave entertainment since about 2008 on and off but recently I've found out the only ones that work are all ones I downloaded from YouTube before 2014 or their reposts by someone else as sometimes videos got deleted and channels closed. But the original, post-2014 ones are crap.

I think the brainwave entertainment thing has become an industry and unfortunately lots of scammers have jumped on the bandwagon. Let me summarize:

Then (2000s to 2014): Mostly pure binaural beats, rife frequencies, brainwaves, isochronic tones mostly about treating anxiety, depression, diabetes, sinus problems, colds, against viruses and ilnesses, etc.

Now (since 2014): All kinds of meditation music and subliminals masked as binaural beats claiming ridiculous things like "changing hair color", "changing race", "making your balls/boobs huge" (lol!), etc. Some of them even make anxiety/depression worse.

Too much saturation, bandwagon jumping and ridiculous requests by YouTube comments have made finding good new binaural beats etc. very difficult.

Here's a good chanell from back then with many videos with pure rife frequencies:
[link to www.youtube.com (secure)]

Compare this:


To this - one of the less effective new ones:


It's not just pure vs fancy music either as back then even the fancy music ones were more effective:


This is a repost from 2015, but the original was uploaded somewhere in 2011-2013. Compare it to this new one which is much louder but less effective:


 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 59853926


Thank you. I read this thread last week and was trying to find it yesterday morning. No such luck. I had meant to bookmark the youtube page you linked and now I'm able to. I also noticed the same exact thing with Binaural beats. And yes, I believe you are right about the old ones compared tot he new ones.
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Well it's easy to make your own if you gave an old copy of cooledit pro. You can fully control it and put waves in by modulation of pink noise. You can adjust the frequency of the very lowest carrier tones, the lower the stronger the binaural effect.
Any some idiotic company bought cooledit pro and so it immediately turned to shit and became unavailable.
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I listened to this one on 300mcg LSD and, among other effects, I felt like I was going to have a heart attack... [link to www.youtube.com (secure)]





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