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Deplorable Azila_Again
(OP) User ID: 75557433 United States 05/18/2018 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I now your pain hospitality sector small business owner if I gave employee s health care I'd make 0-4$ an hour myself Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22114872 I pay $65 a week for minimal care, high deductible. That's just for myself. Family coverage is ridiculous. I don't blame her. We try and ease the burden by paying 80%. It's still outrageous. It's ridiculous. I need to edit this. * it went to $85 a week, last week. Last Edited by Departing Azila_Again on 05/18/2018 09:01 PM The real question is, do you even doodle Bro? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11417276 United States 05/18/2018 08:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She is a wonderful girl, treated her like a daughter. Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again Being in small business in the private sector, health care is outrageous for us. She found a position with a local municipality. Healthcare is cheaper. We can't compete with health care costs. That is the only reason she left, so she could afford family health care. my company already pays 80% of employee costs, which is outrageous. This makes me sick to my stomach. Small business has a hard enough time as it is. Sad times in America for sure. It breaks my heart. Failed Economics did ya...LOL So she was your best employee...ok Let's look at it from an output standpoint Say she produced 100 widgets a day and had no returns your next best can only produce 60 and has 5 returns(55 net) You now hire another with no experience... you've got 2 options: you let 2nd best train them or you take the time to train them, and forgo getting your other duties done...making you have to work later and later So, the smart play was to cover her HC I think the cost of Health care is the least of your worries . |
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Deplorable Azila_Again
(OP) User ID: 75557433 United States 05/18/2018 08:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She is a wonderful girl, treated her like a daughter. Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again Being in small business in the private sector, health care is outrageous for us. She found a position with a local municipality. Healthcare is cheaper. We can't compete with health care costs. That is the only reason she left, so she could afford family health care. my company already pays 80% of employee costs, which is outrageous. This makes me sick to my stomach. Small business has a hard enough time as it is. Sad times in America for sure. It breaks my heart. Failed Economics did ya...LOL So she was your best employee...ok Let's look at it from an output standpoint Say she produced 100 widgets a day and had no returns your next best can only produce 60 and has 5 returns(55 net) You now hire another with no experience... you've got 2 options: you let 2nd best train them or you take the time to train them, and forgo getting your other duties done...making you have to work later and later So, the smart play was to cover her HC I think the cost of Health care is the least of your worries . Than obviously, you're not in small business. Yes, I will train her replacement. Not a problem, as I'm not afraid of work. You pay for one health insurance, you set yourself up for a discrimination suit by not paying everyone's. Also, she was not educated, but did a damn good job. Started at $20 an hour. Did you fail HR? The real question is, do you even doodle Bro? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 64419656 United States 05/18/2018 08:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the problem with being a job creator. All of a sudden you are also on the hook for their healthcare, sickness, retirement, ect just because you could create something from nothing and give someone a job. It's almost like punishment for trying. |
Deplorable Azila_Again
(OP) User ID: 75557433 United States 05/18/2018 08:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the problem with being a job creator. All of a sudden you are also on the hook for their healthcare, sickness, retirement, ect just because you could create something from nothing and give someone a job. It's almost like punishment for trying. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64419656 Absolutely correct. It's incredibly difficult to juggle it all. The real question is, do you even doodle Bro? |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11417276 United States 05/18/2018 08:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She is a wonderful girl, treated her like a daughter. Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again Being in small business in the private sector, health care is outrageous for us. She found a position with a local municipality. Healthcare is cheaper. We can't compete with health care costs. That is the only reason she left, so she could afford family health care. my company already pays 80% of employee costs, which is outrageous. This makes me sick to my stomach. Small business has a hard enough time as it is. Sad times in America for sure. It breaks my heart. Failed Economics did ya...LOL So she was your best employee...ok Let's look at it from an output standpoint Say she produced 100 widgets a day and had no returns your next best can only produce 60 and has 5 returns(55 net) You now hire another with no experience... you've got 2 options: you let 2nd best train them or you take the time to train them, and forgo getting your other duties done...making you have to work later and later So, the smart play was to cover her HC I think the cost of Health care is the least of your worries . Than obviously, you're not in small business. Yes, I will train her replacement. Not a problem, as I'm not afraid of work. You pay for one health insurance, you set yourself up for a discrimination suit by not paying everyone's. Also, she was not educated, but did a damn good job. Started at $20 an hour. Did you fail HR? Own 2 business myself, I just know how to retain my 'Best' moneymakers. . |
Wondering Mind
User ID: 73265267 United States 05/18/2018 08:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In the long run they all just opted out it and none are going to take it out again it costs them a lot for nothing. It is better for them to at least keep their wages instead of wasting them on a huge nothing burger. They need their earned income. It is huge insurance mess as though it turned into a racket scheme and never got stopped. The most precious things are the simple things in life, always present in the simplest of minds. |
Deplorable Azila_Again
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 64419656 United States 05/18/2018 08:56 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the problem with being a job creator. All of a sudden you are also on the hook for their healthcare, sickness, retirement, ect just because you could create something from nothing and give someone a job. It's almost like punishment for trying. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64419656 Absolutely correct. It's incredibly difficult to juggle it all. Better to just stay small in a area where all you need is yourself. Like heating and cooling or lawn care. Then you don't have to do all the workers comp ect. But then there is that catch that you can't even provide decent insurance for yourself......the whole system is geared against job creators which always has been the driving force of the economy. Sucks. |
Deplorable Azila_Again
(OP) User ID: 75557433 United States 05/18/2018 08:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She is a wonderful girl, treated her like a daughter. Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again Being in small business in the private sector, health care is outrageous for us. She found a position with a local municipality. Healthcare is cheaper. We can't compete with health care costs. That is the only reason she left, so she could afford family health care. my company already pays 80% of employee costs, which is outrageous. This makes me sick to my stomach. Small business has a hard enough time as it is. Sad times in America for sure. It breaks my heart. Failed Economics did ya...LOL So she was your best employee...ok Let's look at it from an output standpoint Say she produced 100 widgets a day and had no returns your next best can only produce 60 and has 5 returns(55 net) You now hire another with no experience... you've got 2 options: you let 2nd best train them or you take the time to train them, and forgo getting your other duties done...making you have to work later and later So, the smart play was to cover her HC I think the cost of Health care is the least of your worries . Than obviously, you're not in small business. Yes, I will train her replacement. Not a problem, as I'm not afraid of work. You pay for one health insurance, you set yourself up for a discrimination suit by not paying everyone's. Also, she was not educated, but did a damn good job. Started at $20 an hour. Did you fail HR? Own 2 business myself, I just know how to retain my 'Best' moneymakers. . I have 3. With that being said, I do it legally. Which is becoming harder and harder. Whatever tactics you use, more power to you. The real question is, do you even doodle Bro? |
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Deplorable Azila_Again
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11417276 United States 05/18/2018 09:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11417276 Failed Economics did ya...LOL So she was your best employee...ok Let's look at it from an output standpoint Say she produced 100 widgets a day and had no returns your next best can only produce 60 and has 5 returns(55 net) You now hire another with no experience... you've got 2 options: you let 2nd best train them or you take the time to train them, and forgo getting your other duties done...making you have to work later and later So, the smart play was to cover her HC I think the cost of Health care is the least of your worries . Than obviously, you're not in small business. Yes, I will train her replacement. Not a problem, as I'm not afraid of work. You pay for one health insurance, you set yourself up for a discrimination suit by not paying everyone's. Also, she was not educated, but did a damn good job. Started at $20 an hour. Did you fail HR? Own 2 business myself, I just know how to retain my 'Best' moneymakers. . I have 3. With that being said, I do it legally. Which is becoming harder and harder. Whatever tactics you use, more power to you. Trust me, I'm HIGHLY regulated by my state's licensing board. I just don't buy a new boat or Jag every other year. . |
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Deplorable Azila_Again
(OP) User ID: 75557433 United States 05/18/2018 09:10 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again Than obviously, you're not in small business. Yes, I will train her replacement. Not a problem, as I'm not afraid of work. You pay for one health insurance, you set yourself up for a discrimination suit by not paying everyone's. Also, she was not educated, but did a damn good job. Started at $20 an hour. Did you fail HR? Own 2 business myself, I just know how to retain my 'Best' moneymakers. . I have 3. With that being said, I do it legally. Which is becoming harder and harder. Whatever tactics you use, more power to you. Trust me, I'm HIGHLY regulated by my state's licensing board. I just don't buy a new boat or Jag every other year. . Nor do I. I live in a modest home and drive a modest vehicle. Nothing different than you would find my employees having. I don't own a boat nor a Jag, nor would I ever feel the need to. Apparently you do? You just don't swap out for new every other year? Regardless, this isn't a pissing match, I could care less what you do or how you do it. It's harder and harder to be a small business owner in America today. The real question is, do you even doodle Bro? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11417276 United States 05/18/2018 09:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11417276 Own 2 business myself, I just know how to retain my 'Best' moneymakers. . I have 3. With that being said, I do it legally. Which is becoming harder and harder. Whatever tactics you use, more power to you. Trust me, I'm HIGHLY regulated by my state's licensing board. I just don't buy a new boat or Jag every other year. . Nor do I. I live in a modest home and drive a modest vehicle. Nothing different than you would find my employees having. I don't own a boat nor a Jag, nor would I ever feel the need to. Apparently you do? You just don't swap out for new every other year? Regardless, this isn't a pissing match, I could care less what you do or how you do it. It's harder and harder to be a small business owner in America today. All you made this thread for is to bitch about the "cost" of Healthcare, Instead of going after the true culprits Here's the rub, If Obamacare was enacted or not, your 'best' employee would still need Health insurance due to it's rising cost Your obvious Obama hate is Obvious...and misplaced . |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76584093 United States 05/18/2018 09:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I now your pain hospitality sector small business owner if I gave employee s health care I'd make 0-4$ an hour myself Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22114872 I pay $65 a week for minimal care, high deductible. That's just for myself. Family coverage is ridiculous. I don't blame her. We try and ease the burden by paying 80%. It's still outrageous. It's ridiculous. I need to edit this. * it went to $85 a week, last week. So your best employee wasn't worth an extra $85 a week to you? |
Deplorable Azila_Again
(OP) User ID: 75557433 United States 05/18/2018 09:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Deplorable Azila_Again I have 3. With that being said, I do it legally. Which is becoming harder and harder. Whatever tactics you use, more power to you. Trust me, I'm HIGHLY regulated by my state's licensing board. I just don't buy a new boat or Jag every other year. . Nor do I. I live in a modest home and drive a modest vehicle. Nothing different than you would find my employees having. I don't own a boat nor a Jag, nor would I ever feel the need to. Apparently you do? You just don't swap out for new every other year? Regardless, this isn't a pissing match, I could care less what you do or how you do it. It's harder and harder to be a small business owner in America today. All you made this thread for is to bitch about the "cost" of Healthcare, Instead of going after the true culprits Here's the rub, If Obamacare was enacted or not, your 'best' employee would still need Health insurance due to it's rising cost Your obvious Obama hate is Obvious...and misplaced . No Sir, it's not. Our healthcare increased close to 500% under Obamacare. Get your $3.50 and be on your way. The real question is, do you even doodle Bro? |
MissCleo
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11417276 United States 05/18/2018 09:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I now your pain hospitality sector small business owner if I gave employee s health care I'd make 0-4$ an hour myself Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22114872 I pay $65 a week for minimal care, high deductible. That's just for myself. Family coverage is ridiculous. I don't blame her. We try and ease the burden by paying 80%. It's still outrageous. It's ridiculous. I need to edit this. * it went to $85 a week, last week. So your best employee wasn't worth an extra $85 a week to you? Yea, She's NOT really a business owner...All she posted this for was a Obammy Bash . |
Deplorable Azila_Again
(OP) User ID: 75557433 United States 05/18/2018 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I now your pain hospitality sector small business owner if I gave employee s health care I'd make 0-4$ an hour myself Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22114872 I pay $65 a week for minimal care, high deductible. That's just for myself. Family coverage is ridiculous. I don't blame her. We try and ease the burden by paying 80%. It's still outrageous. It's ridiculous. I need to edit this. * it went to $85 a week, last week. So your best employee wasn't worth an extra $85 a week to you? Yea, She's NOT really a business owner...All she posted this for was a Obammy Bash . $85 a week is for single coverage. Not family. The real question is, do you even doodle Bro? |
hershy
User ID: 76542590 United States 05/18/2018 09:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm with you op I have a small business and i work for a cancer unit,they just got bought out by a bigger health care provider.Many people just lost their jobs and mine also got canned,my job ends June 1 got a 60 day notice this came out of nowhere sucks. hershy |
Deplorable Azila_Again
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Trained Noticer
Forum Moderator User ID: 76014573 United States 05/18/2018 09:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is the problem with being a job creator. All of a sudden you are also on the hook for their healthcare, sickness, retirement, ect just because you could create something from nothing and give someone a job. It's almost like punishment for trying. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 64419656 Absolutely correct. It's incredibly difficult to juggle it all. For those who believe, no proof is necessary. For those who don't believe, no proof is possible. (Stuart Chase) It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled. (Mark Twain) |
Deplorable Azila_Again
(OP) User ID: 75557433 United States 05/18/2018 09:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'm with you op I have a small business and i work for a cancer unit,they just got bought out by a bigger health care provider.Many people just lost their jobs and mine also got canned,my job ends June 1 got a 60 day notice this came out of nowhere sucks. Quoting: hershy I'm sorry to hear that. It's horrible what's happening to people trying to make a living. I too, am trying to make it and trying to help those who also try, to make it. It sucks. The real question is, do you even doodle Bro? |