The difference between Judah/Israel and Jacob/Israel...Do you know the difference?

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Where is your best friend partner? Did your book produce him and you didn’t recognize him as Elijah/messiah Ben Joseph as he is well known for showing up and people not recognizing him...lol...nah wait a lil longer maybe some stranger will arrive and it will make sense to one who is promised blindness to recognize his partner til the fullness of the gentiles....cross ya fingers best friend..even though those two kingdoms you can see Jacob/ Israel and Judah/ israel are at odds God wouldn’t make you as representative to judah/ Israel blind to seeing the representative to Jacob/Israel...you’re his favorite right? just as judah/Israel the nation thinks they are the favorite...the southern kingdom is know as the house of Judah....the line david is from...the northern kingdom is know as the house of ephraim/Jacob/Joseph..the line the other witness is from...you are representative to judah...not Jacob/Joseph/Ephraim...those are northern kingdom people...but that representative will push them toward you because that is what is written....you think God will send you a best friend at the last minute when the the two kingdoms(Judah and Jacob/Joseph) have been at odds with each other for over 2500 years...you think the representatives of those two kingdoms/ houses/families are going to be instant best friends? You have to experience your house to represent your house. The way you feel toward me is the way j.e.w.s feel toward Christians If you were Joseph you would be able to see your brother by now...David isn’t from the line of Joseph he is from the line who dont like Joseph the line of Judah who sees no one but himself. That is how you know you are judah because there are 2 anointed and Judah places himself in 1st born/ 2nd born..kingship/ priesthood..Sceptre/ birthright..masculine/ feminine every position... both birth order...both offices and Both spiritual gender..eve the mother of creation just disappears...really that was the plan of God to just make the 2nd born disappear.. bring about the kingdom and just off the partner?...that is disturbing .hmmm wake up your partner has been here the whole time...you just have to read...Judah will be blind to seeing Joseph...you aren’t Joseph you can’t see anyone else..you are judah the plow...Joseph is the one you shared sweet council with and the turned your heel against...the teacher is the one who turns his heel against the other after the sweet council they share psalm 55.




SERIOUSLY ASK YOURSELF WHY WOULD YOU NOT BE ABLE TO SEE YOUR PARTNER THIS LATE IN YOUR LIFE. UNLESS OF COURSE YOU WERE JUDAH( the line david is from)..WHEN YOU GOT A GUY OVER HERE SCREAMING FOR YEARS “ IM YOUR PARTNER I CAN SEE YOU WAKE UP!!!”....why?...because you want to be Joseph and have the birthright...you can’t be happy with what judah is promised the Sceptre and the whole world you want the birthright and the priesthood also...but the things of earth are less than the things of heaven so those offices of kingship and high priest are to be divided on earth....fortunately you have a 2nd anointed to fill the birthright/ priesthood position 1 chronicles 5:2


Your either from the line of Judah where David has to come from to sit on the throne or the line of Joseoh(1 chronicles 5:2)who is the other witness who has the birthright but you can’t be from both lines...even Jesus couldn’t pull that off.....look at the judah personality...you have it!

The guy who caused you to know your place you ignore and look for another....there is no other coming.







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I don't feel ill will toward you waterman. Only sorrow for you being so easily mislead when it comes to scripture. It was I who gave you a hug when we last meant, yet no kind response came from you in return.

Should I agree with you and call God a liar for making promises he expects me to believe on and continue to follow in those beliefs, he has entrusted me with. Of course I shall remain faithful to him and not accuse him of giving me a false report; as you wish me to do by agreeing with your weak scriptural advice/folly.

If we are seriously asking ourselves questions, as you requested of me, then answer me this.

Why if Joseph is separate from his consanguineous brethren in birth, distance, and place? You have no such claim concerning your brethren, as does the true Joseph.

If you were whom you claim, why do you have no/witnesses confirmation concerning these beliefs? As the true Joseph has had many all along as to who he is.

And saying b/c Israel/Jacob is blind-deaf (Isa.42:19KJV)) is simply b/c you don't understand the whole concept of the fullness of the Word, as usual. That man is not blind/deaf but a few chapters over (Isa.48.5KJV) when God began to reveal all these mysteries to him he was shown/saw/seen these things, and he was made to hear the meanings of the Words (Thou has heard) (Isa.48:6KJV). So according to scripture that man sees and hears just fine from the point God revealed to him who and what he was several decades ago!

How come Joseph is consider a Royal princely figure in the bible Just under the King/Pharaoh. Yet, no Priestly figure as you claim Joseph represented, was/is ever considered after the royal bloodline lineage. A priest is not a prince as you claim regardless what you were told...but he is a priest..so seeing the word the Prince in the book of Danial (chapter 9) is not referring to some form of a priest as you believe. Don't you understand you twist the Word to fit your own interpretation of a biblical concept never instituted by the Holy Spirit's inspiration.

For someone who is no longer concerned whether I believe you or not, as you posted a few post earlier. It seems you can't help yourself in trying to convince me otherwise. Forget it I understand scripture much better than you, and that is because I read the whole meaning of the Word, not just the portion that fits my fancy at the moment...lol.

You can’t be king and high priest on earth those two offices are separate. The only way to qualify for being high priest is to be from the line of Levi or be in position of having the firstborn birthright as Joseph does( judah has the Sceptre Joseph has the firstborn birthright 1 chronicles 5:2)

Ezekiel 37 shows us the two representatives. Joseph ( firstborn birthright holder and then it shows us David the Sceptre holder from a whle different tribe...the tribe of Judah and it shows us the two kingdom representative are divided

By the way what promise were you made besides you would sing praises in the midst of the congregation? Did he say he was going to make you a 2nd Jesus both king and high priest on earth when we know those offices are divided in the millennial kingdom as they are davidic and levitic according to Jeremiah and Ezekiel not the higher heavenly office of melchelzedek order Jesus himself owns..he is higher than both witnesses in throne as is he is both king and high priest and the two witnesses divide the two offices on earth...one king and the other high priest.



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Where is old man Hillel at Davids Line? Christians always bring up Jesus as some Mystery son of David. Ofcourse theres about 10 things i could argue here in this thread but im annoyed with the above

You can’t be king and high priest on earth those two offices are separate. The only way to qualify for being high priest is to be from the line of Levi or be in position of having the firstborn birthright as Joseph does( judah/david has the Sceptre Joseph has the firstborn birthright 1 chronicles 5:2)

Ezekiel 37 shows us the two representatives. Joseph ( firstborn birthright holder and then it shows us David the Sceptre holder from a whole different tribe...the tribe of Judah and it shows us the two kingdom representative are divided



This is how I know you are judah/israel and not Jacob/israel:

Judah/israel has the Sceptre blessing(kingship)
Jacob/ israel has the firstborn birthright and was a second born. This is how I know none of the 2 Nd born birthright holding positions can be part of any 1 st born judah/israel Sceptre holding “ surnames” because both Jacob/ israel and Judah / israel are surnamed in the volume of the book so Jacob Joseph and ephraim all birthright holders can’t be referring to judah/ Israel as his surname they are the other witnesses surnames


As far as Joseph having many brothers...you look at the physical rather than the spiritual. God shows physical first Joseph had a lot of brothers in the Old Testament those brothers are spiritual brothers in the end



Just as the prince who is playing the part of high priest ( so it can’t be david)in Ezekiel 46 is able to give gifts to his sons....does this mean a couple two or three sons are going to get extra blessing....no it is speaking spiritual sons ...the prince is Joseph and his sons are ephraim and mannaseah those are the ones who can inherit from Joseph the prince

Ezekiel 46
16Thus saith the Lord God; If the prince give a gift unto any of his sons, the inheritance thereof shall be his sons'; it shall be their possession by inheritance.


p.s:
You do realize the man you say who is not blind in isaiah 48 is jacob/israel the birthright holder not judah isreal the sceptre holder right?

The 1st borns always think God wont blind them
Til the fullness of the gentiles....even though he tells them he will...lol..it’s crazy they read it yet don't think it will apply to them...if God said he will do it,,,if you are a firstborn Adam or Judah you are going to be blind to seeing your brother Jacob/ Joseph/ ephraim til the fullness of the gentiles God don’t lie..you will think you are 1st born and 2 Nd born...masculine and feminine...Sceptre and birthright...mother and father of creation...kingship and priesthood ruler...you will see yourself as everything with no room or position for the other witness...you will become the 2 Nd Jesus..through your own blindness til the fulness of the gentiles..lol just like in the 6 th day of creation eve saw Adam before Adam saw eve...so will the 2 Nd born see the first born before he sees him in the 6000 th year( a day is as a year and a year as a thousand)...just as Joseph could see his brothers before they could see him...it repeats as Solomon said there is nothing new under the sun



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Waterman = Judaized dumb ass who is confused and has no idea what hes talking about.

jesus is a lie, not king not priest and has nothing to do with the blessings of Israel and the first born issue.

waterman, youre just making a salad of half truths and lies.

remember the time I stomped you regarding the Ben Joseph issue? and you said you have no answer but you want to continue believe regardless? this means you are a liar.

Show me the post if you aren’t a liar yourself.....guess what there is no post that says anything like that....produce it if you can....and you wish there was no Jesus as he gave the 2nd born the birthright.....wanna Back him up sword...seems anyone who comes against me is a friend of yours...lol..it seems sword is not quite on your side yet israel he doesnt yet realize Jesus gave the 2 Nd born the birthright...and he is also a firstborn who thinks he has the birthright when time and time again it shows the 2 Nd born gets the birthright

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2 Timothy 2:24

The Lord's bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged,


2 Timothy 2:14

Remind them of these things, and solemnly charge them in the presence of God not to wrangle about words, which is useless and leads to the ruin of the hearers


Philippians 2:14

Do all things without grumbling or disputing;

Proverbs 15:1

A gentle answer turns away wrath, But a harsh word stirs up anger.


1 Corinthians 3:3

for you are still fleshly. For since there is jealousy and strife among you, are you not fleshly, and are you not walking like mere men?

Titus 3:9

But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and strife and disputes about the Law, for they are unprofitable and worthless.

1 Timothy 6:3-5
If anyone advocates a different doctrine and does not agree with sound words, those of our Lord Jesus Christ, and with the doctrine conforming to godliness, he is conceited and understands nothing; but he has a morbid interest in controversial questions and disputes about words, out of which arise envy, strife, abusive language, evil suspicions, and constant friction between men of depraved mind and deprived of the truth, who suppose that godliness is a means of gain

yeah Im not going to search for one of your many threads from 2 years ago.

jesus gave birthright to who how when?

Jesus himself said his kingdom is not of this earth. Jesus’ priesthood is higher than the levitic priesthood as the things of heaven are higher than the things of earth therefore the melchelzedek priesthood is Jesus’ priesthood ruling from heaven as both King and High priest as that is allowed in the higher heavenly melchelzedek order priesthood /kingship The mistake Christians make is they think Jesus will rule on earth during the 1000 years....Jesus doesn’t rule on earth til the end of the 1000 years after David the king and Joseph the high priest have finished their rule and the new heaven and new earth come and there is no sun and moon...Messiah Ben David can be king because he is from the line of Judah...messiah Ben Joseph can qualify to be high priest because he has the firstborn birth right according to 1 chronicles 5:2.... but j.e.w.s aren’t privy to that yet...they can’t figure out what the purpose of the 2nd anointed messiah Ben Joseph is...they know one is king..yet can’t seem to figure out the other is high priest because they look for a Levite to be high priest...and we know the levites were simply a substitute for the firstborns...therefore after messiah Ben Joseph has completed his mission and is raised from the dead by messiah Ben David then messiah Ben Joseph will qualify for high priest with the zaddock levites working with him in the third temple





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jesus gave birth right to who when and how???

show me where scriptures talk about Messiah Ben Joseph!

Go study some two house...go find the post of mine that you claim there is and then maybe we can chit chat...otherwise eh you don't interest me that much...you really have nothing to add to the subject but insults so you add nothing and I think nothing about you...but it is nice to know you remember me from 2 years ago apparently...lol

why do you assume I dont know about the two houses!

I asked 2 very relevant questions.

jesus gave the birthright to who when and how?

where do you read about Messiah Ben Joseph in the Bible?

and I add a third one, what does jesus have to do with the 2 houses?

and a 4th, what does the priesthood have to do with separation of the houses?

please answer these questions!

Go get my post that you claim exists then we chit chat...I don’t see it...and you and me both know it don’t exist...lol

Im not going to search your threads and the many pages in them.

this is irrelevant now, Ive asked you very relevant questions pertaining to your thread and topic, Im not derailing, Im not changing subjects.

Until you find the thread you accuse me of saying I’m done with you...so if you want to chit chat go find it otherwise eh see ya later

why are you afraid of answering legitimate questions?

I’m not I just want you to own up to the aquisations you make...go find it I want to see it otherwise you are on ignore....or you can just say you were lying like we both know you were...lol

fine I lied, we have never spoken before in other threads... happy?

now please answer my questions.

jesus gave the birthright to who when and how?

where do you read about Messiah Ben Joseph in the Bible?

and I add a third one, what does jesus have to do with the 2 houses?

and a 4th, what does the priesthood have to do with separation of the houses?

if you want you can answer one question and we shall exhaust it and then move to another question.

No I want you to show me the post....you shoul be proud of that moment...but there is no moment...lol

When you realize there is no possible way there is another possible partner than the one you already have this late in the program even though you search back 40 years for a time of walking the wood a fleeting glimpse of someone you didn’t even know to look for a partner more submissive and they still don’t contact you...you wait and wait and yet it will still be the one who told you it was him that will take the world stage as your forerunner...20 years (1998)we have been discussing this ...really a 5 minute stand in is going to be your partner?...lol..ridiculous. It will not happen.wait for it and you still won’t recognize it til the fulness of the gentiles because it is written that way and Judah’s weakness is pride..If you didn’t share sweet council with this partner at one time then he isn’t the one....good luck finding that requirement at this time....after that you need to turn your heel against him...that is the easier part for a judah and Joseph scenario...lol..exactly what happened friend how do you not see it?

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