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The difference between Judah/Israel and Jacob/Israel...Do you know the difference?

 
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Judah - usually rich white Je/ws or Christians like Putin etc...

Israel - a lot of American and European whites are from Israeli descent but are not of Judah, while other whites (example "trailer trash drug addicts") etc... are from Moab and Ammon,

Edom - (Esau) white people who usually don't mention God and are lawless, like Seth Macfarlane, Stephen Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon, Jim Carey, Charlie Sheen, Ray Romano, Christy Carlson Romano, Lady Gaga (Stefani Germonatta) etc..

Ishmael- Islamic people some of whom are white which are mixed with Egyptians

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"Sarai was 75 years old and had yet to bear Abraham a child. She had the idea to offer her Egyptian handmaiden Hagar to her husband, so that they could have a child by her. Abraham took Hagar as his wife,[4] and conceived a child with her
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Wrong edom is not white people, they were tent dwelling

Arabs in the desert north of Saudi Arabia

had nothing to do with white people

Sheba and Dedan are still located in Saudi Arabia

Educate yourself

They now own all the oil companies in the ME
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thanks, I have educated myself and

NO you are thinking of Ishmael, Jacob was the tent dweller, not Esau

Genesis 25:27
When the boys grew up, Esau was a skillful hunter, a man of the field, while Jacob was a quiet man, dwelling in tents.

Esau is also white just like Jacob,

Esau Is the brother of Jacob, I never have seen a blood brother who is a different race than his brother, like you say, White vs. Arab

Esau has the same knowledge of the scriptures but Usually just mocks them, Esau usually has family history in Roman Catholicism just like the people I mentioned above in my first post above yours


example watch the end of this video, a perfect example of Esau, and Edom also has the financial blessing of Abraham like Judah and Israel, and usually are not poor people

Lady Gaga ROMA ROMA

Seth MacFarlane



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example Jacobs's descendants Judah and Israel



Edom's descendants





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if you want you can answer one question and we shall exhaust it and then move to another question.
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Love this. You are making people think and that is all good. So, when does Joseph take over from Judah? I am a Jewish convert. It is quite clear that Judah gains control then loses it in Torah. I believe it will be handed to Joseph based on blessings, etc. Do you see it?
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Does the term born again Christian tie into this somehow?
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That was the purpose of Jesus coming...to give the 2nd born the birthright..that is why 1st born j.e.w.s dont appreciate Jesus giving th 2nd born the birthright
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very interesting
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You should have asked if I give a damn...i don't so why not take your anti Semite BS some place else freaking hippie liberal
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The story of Israel is told in the Prodigal son. The first son is Judah. The second son is Joseph/Gentiles who run away and spend their birth right. When Joseph comes back the Father is exceedingly happy but Judah is jealous.
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lol....no it's not.
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lolsign....yes it is.


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Thought yhis was settled

Joshua was the one who made the decision

He said the god on the other side of the jordan was a different god then the one they should be praying to

God did noy talk directly to joshua about this

He made it up
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The title of Israel has already been handed over to Joseph's sons Ephraim and Manasseh. Try reading Genesis.
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The beginning of the Bible starts with the first born and second born and the word tells us God tells us the end from the beginning..the volume of the book about the first born and 2nd born...the end of the book is about the 1st born and 2 Nd born....the volume of the book is about them...but only the 2nd born will be able to see that....as the 1st born is promised blindness to seeing the 2 Nd born until the fullness of the gentiles....to see who is blind you have to know who is 1st born judah/ Israel and who is 2 Nd born Jacob/ Israel...you have to know who started out in sweet union and became separated...the nations and the 2 witnesses are of no diffenece as both are 1st borns and 2nd borns...unified and then divided before unification


:dividedkingdom:

The mother and father the masculine and the feminine of society...you can’t have one without the other or you have no family...no kingdom..no perfect plan of God....even the Hebrew language is divided between masculine and feminine language

Jacob is a second born who had to be given the birthright to become a israel birthright possessor

Judah/ Israel is already a firstborn and has no need to struggle with the firstborn or God to be given the name Israel as he is already first born and already called Israel...the only one firstborn judah struggled with was the one given 2 Nd born birthright Joseph 1 chronicles 5:2...judah the Sceptre..Joseph the birthright...if you are the the plow you are judah/ Israel....if you are the clod breaker( blessing divider) you are Jacob/ Israel....1st born...2nd born all day long every day for as long as you wanna look...it don’t change in the volume of the book



:Joseph and Judah:

:nuclear:
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Your bible .. all of it is flawed and you cannot there for use it for such a DUMB discussion OP.

Most of your OT is Anunnaki.
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Your bible .. all of it is flawed and you cannot there for use it for such a DUMB discussion OP.

Most of your OT is Anunnaki.

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The bible isn't flawed, but you certainly are.
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The beginning of the Bible starts with...
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the human mind conflates fiction with reality when its bored
or threatened when in grouos

***has been covered in human shit for as long as Man can remember....before that?


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The beginning of the Bible starts with the first born and second born and the word tells us God tells us the end from the beginning..the volume of the book about the first born and 2nd born...the end of the book is about the 1st born and 2 Nd born....the volume of the book is about them...but only the 2nd born will be able to see that....as the 1st born is promised blindness to seeing the 2 Nd born until the fullness of the gentiles....to see who is blind you have to know who is 1st born judah/ Israel and who is 2 Nd born Jacob/ Israel...you have to know who started out in sweet union and became separated...the nations and the 2 witnesses are of no diffenece as both are 1st borns and 2nd borns...unified and then divided before unification


dividedkingdom

The mother and father the masculine and the feminine of society...you can’t have one without the other or you have no family...no kingdom..no perfect plan of God....even the Hebrew language is divided between masculine and feminine language

Jacob is a second born who had to be given the birthright to become a israel birthright possessor

Judah/ Israel is already a firstborn and has no need to struggle with the firstborn or God to be given the name Israel as he is already first born and already called Israel...the only one firstborn judah struggled with was the one given 2 Nd born birthright Joseph 1 chronicles 5:2...judah the Sceptre..Joseph the birthright...if you are the the plow you are judah/ Israel....if you are the clod breaker( blessing divider) you are Jacob/ Israel....1st born...2nd born all day long every day for as long as you wanna look...it don’t change in the volume of the book



Joseph and Judah

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5* op.

Judah isn't even the imposters claiming they are Judah today in the corporate nation state calling themselves Israel.

Lotta lying deception going on in Christian churches today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76238605


What do you mean by imposters? Do you think that the people in Israel today are not from Judah?
 Quoting: Achduke7


YES!

John 8:44 (KJV)

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

The Pharisees and Sadducees (Khazar/Ashkenazim impostors) prosecuted and killed Yashuah for "naming and shaming" them.

Revelation 2:9 (KJV)

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Juws, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan".

Revelation 3:9 (KJV)

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Juws, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

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The beginning of the Bible starts with the first born and second born and the word tells us God tells us the end from the beginning..the volume of the book about the first born and 2nd born...the end of the book is about the 1st born and 2 Nd born....the volume of the book is about them...but only the 2nd born will be able to see that....as the 1st born is promised blindness to seeing the 2 Nd born until the fullness of the gentiles....to see who is blind you have to know who is 1st born judah/ Israel and who is 2 Nd born Jacob/ Israel...you have to know who started out in sweet union and became separated...the nations and the 2 witnesses are of no diffenece as both are 1st borns and 2nd borns...unified and then divided before unification


:dividedkingdom:

The mother and father the masculine and the feminine of society...you can’t have one without the other or you have no family...no kingdom..no perfect plan of God....even the Hebrew language is divided between masculine and feminine language

Jacob is a second born who had to be given the birthright to become a israel birthright possessor

Judah/ Israel is already a firstborn and has no need to struggle with the firstborn or God to be given the name Israel as he is already first born and already called Israel...the only one firstborn judah struggled with was the one given 2 Nd born birthright Joseph 1 chronicles 5:2...judah the Sceptre..Joseph the birthright...if you are the the plow you are judah/ Israel....if you are the clod breaker( blessing divider) you are Jacob/ Israel....1st born...2nd born all day long every day for as long as you wanna look...it don’t change in the volume of the book



:Joseph and Judah:

:nuclear:
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5* op.

Judah isn't even the imposters claiming they are Judah today in the corporate nation state calling themselves Israel.

Lotta lying deception going on in Christian churches today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76238605


What do you mean by imposters? Do you think that the people in Israel today are not from Judah?
 Quoting: Achduke7


YES!

John 8:44 (KJV)

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

The Pharisees and Sadducees (Khazar/Ashkenazim impostors) prosecuted and killed Yashuah for "naming and shaming" them.

Revelation 2:9 (KJV)

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Juws, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan".

Revelation 3:9 (KJV)

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Juws, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

peace
 Quoting: Atlas Wept



False.You are taking scripture out of context. This is referring to the last days.


Jeremiah 3:18 King James Version (KJV)

18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.


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Who is this Messiah Ben David that you speak of ?
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Who is this Messiah Ben David that you speak of ?
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Yeshua
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Jacob is the father of all the tribes and Judah represents only one tribe! Firstborn or not - Jacob was named Israel by God, Judah wasn't!
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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Who is this Messiah Ben David that you speak of ?
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Well it isn’t Jesus because Jesus himself said his kingdom is not of this world and this David rules as king on earth during the millennium and according to Ezekiel the levitic priesthood is reinstated and Hebrews 8 tells us if there is another priesthood on earth Jesus couldn’t even be priest on earth so why would Jesus want to rule on earth if he couldn’t even be priest as Jesus’ priesthood is the higher heavenly priesthood melchelzedek order both King and High Priest therefore Jesus will rule from heaven and David will have the Sceptre on earth

John 18:36:


"My kingdom is not of this world," said Jesus. "If My kingdom were of this world, My servants would fight, so that I wouldn't be handed over to the J.e.w.s. As it is, My kingdom does not have its origin here."


Hebrews 8:4: (Jesus can’t be priest on earth during the millennium)

4 For if he were on earth, he should not be a priest, seeing that there are priests that offer gifts according to the law:

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tribe of Judah left Israel so they could worship satan

they still do

its that easy
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5* op.

Judah isn't even the imposters claiming they are Judah today in the corporate nation state calling themselves Israel.

Lotta lying deception going on in Christian churches today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76238605


What do you mean by imposters? Do you think that the people in Israel today are not from Judah?
 Quoting: Achduke7


YES!

John 8:44 (KJV)

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

The Pharisees and Sadducees (Khazar/Ashkenazim impostors) prosecuted and killed Yashuah for "naming and shaming" them.

Revelation 2:9 (KJV)

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Juws, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan".

Revelation 3:9 (KJV)

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Juws, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

peace
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False.You are taking scripture out of context. This is referring to the last days.


Jeremiah 3:18 King James Version (KJV)

18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.


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What do you mean by imposters? Do you think that the people in Israel today are not from Judah?
 Quoting: Achduke7


YES!

John 8:44 (KJV)

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

The Pharisees and Sadducees (Khazar/Ashkenazim impostors) prosecuted and killed Yashuah for "naming and shaming" them.

Revelation 2:9 (KJV)

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Juws, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan".

Revelation 3:9 (KJV)

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Juws, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

peace
 Quoting: Atlas Wept



False.You are taking scripture out of context. This is referring to the last days.


Jeremiah 3:18 King James Version (KJV)

18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.


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 Quoting: Tavor


applause2
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Blow it out your ASS YOU DEPRAVED, CHILD-RAPING DELI MEAT HUFFER! You obviously IGNORED JOHN 8:44!

John 8:44 (KJV)

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

The Pharisees and Sadducees (Khazar/Ashkenazim impostors) prosecuted and killed Yashuah for "naming and shaming" them.

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YES!

John 8:44 (KJV)

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

The Pharisees and Sadducees (Khazar/Ashkenazim impostors) prosecuted and killed Yashuah for "naming and shaming" them.

Revelation 2:9 (KJV)

"I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Juws, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan".

Revelation 3:9 (KJV)

"Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Juws, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee."

peace
 Quoting: Atlas Wept



False.You are taking scripture out of context. This is referring to the last days.


Jeremiah 3:18 King James Version (KJV)

18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.


.
 Quoting: Tavor


applause2
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Blow it out your ASS YOU DEPRAVED, CHILD-RAPING DELI MEAT HUFFER! You obviously IGNORED JOHN 8:44!

John 8:44 (KJV)

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

The Pharisees and Sadducees (Khazar/Ashkenazim impostors) prosecuted and killed Yashuah for "naming and shaming" them.


 Quoting: Atlas Wept


I would reply but from the looks of your karma feedback you have reported every abusive post on the glp forum...wouldn't want ya gettin all offended...lol

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This is exactly why Jesus always had problems with the Pharisees and Saduccees. He even sated they were Satanists.
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False.You are taking scripture out of context. This is referring to the last days.


Jeremiah 3:18 King James Version (KJV)

18 In those days the house of Judah shall walk with the house of Israel, and they shall come together out of the land of the north to the land that I have given for an inheritance unto your fathers.


.
 Quoting: Tavor


applause2
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Blow it out your ASS YOU DEPRAVED, CHILD-RAPING DELI MEAT HUFFER! You obviously IGNORED JOHN 8:44!

John 8:44 (KJV)

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

The Pharisees and Sadducees (Khazar/Ashkenazim impostors) prosecuted and killed Yashuah for "naming and shaming" them.


 Quoting: Atlas Wept


I would reply but from the looks of your karma feedback you have reported every abusive post on the glp forum...wouldn't want ya gettin all offended...lol

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Typical response when an ASSWIPE LIKE YOU LOSES AN ARGUMENT -- is to INSULT!

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If we can determine the difference between the house of Judah geographical Israel and the house of Jacob we can understand much more scripture. We see geographical Judah/Israel it is 85 miles wide and 270 miles long. The Israel that most people can't see is Jacob/Isreal. Judah/Israel is the firstborn sceptre holder..Jacob/Israel is the 2nd born birthright holder. The birthright holder gets the double portion. What nation in the entire world can we see who is the most powerful and blessed nation in the world or as we say what nation has the double portion...find that and you find Jacob/Israel nation..it is none other than the 2680 mile wide 1582 mile long united states

When we realize jacob/israel is the united states if puts a whole new meaning to the "time of jacobs trouble." The 10 nations that come against jacob/israel aren't coming against tiny geographical Judah/Israel...they are coming against the most powerful nation that once knew God and turned away from God Jacob/Israel(the united states)

Psalm 83 war is with the "hidden ones"...how is Israel hidden if it is speaking about Judah/Israel we can see them just fine...because it is speaking of Jacob/israel not judah/israel

Psalm 83:

3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

same with ezekiel 38 gog and magog war...this is not describing tiny always at war judah/israel who has walls all over its country:

Ezekiel 38:

11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.


Once we know who Jacob/Israel is we need to find out when his trouble begins. If we look at the jewish feast days we see Rosh Hashannah(feast of trumpets) is known as the beginning of Jacobs trouble...therefore some year on the 2 day observance of Rosh Hashannah(two days observed as one great day) Jacobs trouble will begin....this year Rosh Hashannah will be observed on:


Rosh Hashanah 2018 will begin in the evening of
Sunday
September 9
and ends in the evening of
Tuesday
, September 11


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Jon Anon, is that you??!?!?

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Re: The difference between Judah/Israel and Jacob/Israel...Do you know the difference?
If we can determine the difference between the house of Judah geographical Israel and the house of Jacob we can understand much more scripture. We see geographical Judah/Israel it is 85 miles wide and 270 miles long. The Israel that most people can't see is Jacob/Isreal. Judah/Israel is the firstborn sceptre holder..Jacob/Israel is the 2nd born birthright holder. The birthright holder gets the double portion. What nation in the entire world can we see who is the most powerful and blessed nation in the world or as we say what nation has the double portion...find that and you find Jacob/Israel nation..it is none other than the 2680 mile wide 1582 mile long united states

When we realize jacob/israel is the united states if puts a whole new meaning to the "time of jacobs trouble." The 10 nations that come against jacob/israel aren't coming against tiny geographical Judah/Israel...they are coming against the most powerful nation that once knew God and turned away from God Jacob/Israel(the united states)

Psalm 83 war is with the "hidden ones"...how is Israel hidden if it is speaking about Judah/Israel we can see them just fine...because it is speaking of Jacob/israel not judah/israel

Psalm 83:

3 They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.

4 They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.

same with ezekiel 38 gog and magog war...this is not describing tiny always at war judah/israel who has walls all over its country:

Ezekiel 38:

11 And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,

12 To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.


Once we know who Jacob/Israel is we need to find out when his trouble begins. If we look at the jewish feast days we see Rosh Hashannah(feast of trumpets) is known as the beginning of Jacobs trouble...therefore some year on the 2 day observance of Rosh Hashannah(two days observed as one great day) Jacobs trouble will begin....this year Rosh Hashannah will be observed on:


Rosh Hashanah 2018 will begin in the evening of
Sunday
September 9
and ends in the evening of
Tuesday
, September 11


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 Quoting: waterman


more christard drivel based in folklore legends and retardedness due to MISTRANSLATIONS

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its sort of weird how the USA religious guys always end up saying "it's all about the USA!!!!"

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Jon Anon, is that you??!?!?

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Jacob is the father of all the tribes and Judah represents only one tribe! Firstborn or not - Jacob was named Israel by God, Judah wasn't!
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Absolutely correct... someone who interprets scripture rightly.
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