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Any medical advice about "blood infection"

 
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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
Eat a lot of fermented food.

Sound gut equals sound immune system.

Borax, start with a couple of pinches. Work up to half teaspoon a day.

Zapper

Chew garlic

Carnavora

Wean off the antibiotics.
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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
Eat a lot of fermented food.

Sound gut equals sound immune system.

Borax, start with a couple of pinches. Work up to half teaspoon a day.

Zapper

Chew garlic

Carnavora

Wean off the antibiotics.
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Oh, and as much sunshine as you can get.
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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
Which antibiotics is he on?
Levaquin? More likely nowadays.
If he's on Keflex thats a problem

Surgeons put everyone on Keflex for the past 30 years, which is why most bacteria are resistant to it.
Antibiotic therapy needs to be directed by cultures, not ust guessing.

If the source is the mouth they may not be optimally effective.
Theres too many resitatant bugs to guess and being wrong can kill you.
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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
Eat a lot of fermented food.

Sound gut equals sound immune system.

Borax, start with a couple of pinches. Work up to half teaspoon a day.

Zapper

Chew garlic

Carnavora

Wean off the antibiotics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 392895


Oh, and as much sunshine as you can get.
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You forgot to have him wave a dead cat over his head at midnight of the first full moon of the month for a year.
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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
I had the same issue.
knee slowly getting painful, weak, and eventually i couldnt even lift it to climb steps.
Considered the most likely source of transient bacteremia might be related to a bad tooth.
Took the appropriate antibiotic, and the pain that had been coming on slowly and progressively for 3 weeks went away overnight.
I kept at it for 3 weeks and then got a joint aspirate culture which was negative.
The doctor thinks I'm crazy to think I had a prosthetic infection, and I think he's wrong.
Look into bad dental bridge or partial denture situation in hubby and if suspicious treat for subclinical oral flora bacteremia, because it can happen without the fever and overt signs of sepsis.
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Another consideration is the other end of the pipe, it anal fissues or hemorrhoids which may admit the occasional gut germ .
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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
Eat a lot of fermented food.

Sound gut equals sound immune system.

Borax, start with a couple of pinches. Work up to half teaspoon a day.

Zapper

Chew garlic

Carnavora

Wean off the antibiotics.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 392895


Oh, and as much sunshine as you can get.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 392895


You forgot to have him wave a dead cat over his head at midnight of the first full moon of the month for a year.
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Hahaha.....silence imbecile.
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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
Look up the Beck pulser (blood electrifier) from Dr. Robert Beck which he introduced in the 90s. It's available for purchase from various companies. Costs no more than $250 for a nice one and basic models run about $50.

It uses a very mild electrical pulse applied at the wrists (not painful) to kill off pathogens in the blood. 30 minutes of this treatment a day should keep the problem at bay.
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I am not irritated -- sad for sure. If this was the first time this guy had sepsis, I would agree that trying your method as potential.

I can 100% say there is an untreated bone hot spot of infection that nothing externally is gonna cure -- not bleach and not boran. Otherwise, I am with ya.

He needs an MRI and new damn doctors.
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Canít do MRI
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


Why canít he do an MRI?
 Quoting: Moppie


PaceMaker

Open heart surgery...

Lots of metals in his body
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Look up the Beck pulser (blood electrifier) from Dr. Robert Beck which he introduced in the 90s. It's available for purchase from various companies. Costs no more than $250 for a nice one and basic models run about $50.

It uses a very mild electrical pulse applied at the wrists (not painful) to kill off pathogens in the blood. 30 minutes of this treatment a day should keep the problem at bay.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76599364


Not sure he can do this with a pacemaker.....
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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
Just a feeling after reading your post....

His lymphatic system is compromised, and cannot clean the blood.
 Quoting: JJ Blueberry


Iím going to suggest this be checked out as well.

EVERY stone turned to find what is going on. As other men, he ďdoesnít like/trust doctors,Ē but the fact that this a recurring event now has him wondering what is truly wrong. I think I can convince him to explore further.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


Saying the lymphatic system is compromised is like saying your car sounds like its running funny.
It doesnt actually mean anything of significance.

One thing you arent aware of is that the immune system is naturally slowly shutting down with aging.
The various mechanisms are becoming less efficient with age, naturally, its programmed decrepitude.
The various hormones which mediate this are tanking and making the system functionally deficient with advancing age, and underlying disease states such as diabetes amplify this.

It's no exaggeration that aging is literally aging intending to lead to death.
Some of these pathways can be manipulated for a while, some cheaply, some at considerable expense.
Most doctors do not address this nor will they attend to it honestly.
There are a few people with the credentials and professional ethics to honestly counsel for strategies for reversing decrepitude and even then, the complexity of the system makes it impossible to promise anything.
Most of the time all you will get is someone providing overpriced overpromised potions with no proven potential other than potential for huge profits for the provider.
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Of course, you're right....we're all slowly dying, aren't we? From the moment we're born?

But we want to stall it as long as possible, and maintain some semblance of mobility and health for as long as we can in the meantime....
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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
Look up the Beck pulser (blood electrifier) from Dr. Robert Beck which he introduced in the 90s. It's available for purchase from various companies. Costs no more than $250 for a nice one and basic models run about $50.

It uses a very mild electrical pulse applied at the wrists (not painful) to kill off pathogens in the blood. 30 minutes of this treatment a day should keep the problem at bay.
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In fact, the wife acquired a nasty chronic infection from a skin injury and parts of her skin actually started melting and oozing after smoldering for 4 months as hard red masses. She was then suddenly covered with small red rash spots and her eyes had swollen near shut and her face swelled but the original infected areas were no better and looked red, raw and like raw hamburger dripping serum.
The dermatologists were stumped and threw everything they had at her with antifunals, antibiotics and steroids all at the same time, which to anyone who knows a thing or two is the wrong thing to do and went to no significant. They flat out refused to do the kind of testing I wanted, ie fungal prep and DNA testing and she went on with negative standard biopsies and negative autoimmune test results with no improvement, calling it ecxzema when it OBVIOUSLY wasnt ecxzema. After a few months and several more emergency dermatologist appointments I bought her a progammable muscle stimulator kit with adjustable intensity and variable programmable modes and convinced her that this was much better than her old school zapper that never really did anything.
Lo and behold her she actually started using it several times daily and everything started to go away and has reverted back to normal and in fact lots of her original skin sensitities went away.
SHE claims its from some fancy probiotics she started taking but I know better than to believe some overpriced dried yogurt culture did the trick.

Electricity is the last source of power over the biological and microbial world and standard medicine wants nothing to do with it.
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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
Just a feeling after reading your post....

His lymphatic system is compromised, and cannot clean the blood.
 Quoting: JJ Blueberry


Iím going to suggest this be checked out as well.

EVERY stone turned to find what is going on. As other men, he ďdoesnít like/trust doctors,Ē but the fact that this a recurring event now has him wondering what is truly wrong. I think I can convince him to explore further.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


Saying the lymphatic system is compromised is like saying your car sounds like its running funny.
It doesnt actually mean anything of significance.

One thing you arent aware of is that the immune system is naturally slowly shutting down with aging.
The various mechanisms are becoming less efficient with age, naturally, its programmed decrepitude.
The various hormones which mediate this are tanking and making the system functionally deficient with advancing age, and underlying disease states such as diabetes amplify this.

It's no exaggeration that aging is literally aging intending to lead to death.
Some of these pathways can be manipulated for a while, some cheaply, some at considerable expense.
Most doctors do not address this nor will they attend to it honestly.
There are a few people with the credentials and professional ethics to honestly counsel for strategies for reversing decrepitude and even then, the complexity of the system makes it impossible to promise anything.
Most of the time all you will get is someone providing overpriced overpromised potions with no proven potential other than potential for huge profits for the provider.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76555216


Of course, you're right....we're all slowly dying, aren't we? From the moment we're born?

But we want to stall it as long as possible, and maintain some semblance of mobility and health for as long as we can in the meantime....
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


The point I make is that since decrepitude is a natural programmed thing you have to know exactly how to screw with nature to delay the inevitable.
The body you have now is not the same body you had 30 years ago.
The idiots telling you how to use so called natural cures are missing the point that nature isnt going to help you when you are attempting to defeat it with artificial conditions such as implants.
You have to know how to screw with Mother nature or you will die using her rules.
There are ways of overrulling mother nature, at least for a while, if you understand how she works and are willing to do the work to push her around for a change.
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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
my guess would be dysbiosis, leaky gut syndrome

that means basically gut flora is out of balance, too many bad bacteria and theyíre taking over, they cause inflammation in the intestines, that enlarges the pores, and then stuff leaks through into the bloodstream

doctors donít ever acknowledge this because itís a major cause of chronic diseases and it would hurt drug sales if they addressed and treated this

you can look up treatment for leaky gut, itís mostly diet change (no inflammation causing foods like wheat and dairy) and tons of probiotics
Forgive your enemies, it messes with their heads.

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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
my guess would be dysbiosis, leaky gut syndrome

that means basically gut flora is out of balance, too many bad bacteria and theyíre taking over, they cause inflammation in the intestines, that enlarges the pores, and then stuff leaks through into the bloodstream

doctors donít ever acknowledge this because itís a major cause of chronic diseases and it would hurt drug sales if they addressed and treated this

you can look up treatment for leaky gut, itís mostly diet change (no inflammation causing foods like wheat and dairy) and tons of probiotics
 Quoting: Catseye


If he dies from lack of proper intervention will you admit you have no clue then or will you just walk away?

It's one thing to offer advice and quite another to take responsibility.
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For better or worse, we all have to admit that we NEED doctors....sometimes to simply DIAGNOSE what is wrong.

Oftentimes, we then choose OUR OWN methods of treating. Like with his heart issues from 5 years ago. They wanted to put him on statin drugs. I researched, found out about EDTA, and now he takes it instead. Heartbeat - B/P is normal, cholesterol is better than mine! So we feel like this was a good option. I'll do the same thing when/if we pinpoint what is the blood infection coming from....

Looking back at the entire thread, it's obvious everyone has an "idea." Some from personal experience, others from what they have read.

We - hubs and I - have lived long enough to have seen plenty of friends/family MISdiagnosed and dead because of it. Sometimes you simply don't get answers in time....It is what it is.

All we can do is all we can do - or WILL DO - as in this case. Some of this he will pass off as "hoo-ha." Therefore, WILL NOT consider it worthy of consideration. I did not realize then that the last time he had this infection it was as close to sepsis and KILLING HIM as it was. Afterward, when explaining to someone (a nurse friend, I think? who herself had been going through a surgical procedure, so wasn't available to talk to), and she described his symptoms as severe reaction and almost septic to the point of death.

Wow. Didn't know that! We won't let this infection get that bad again, but he DOES tend to let things ride longer than necessary. Overall, very healthy individual, and wants to stay that way, but won't admit to "getting older." Doesn't necessarily believe in all the "hoo-ha" woo-woo alternatives to modern medicine, but doesn't want to do conventional meds, either, so what to do?

1dunno1

I just look for possible causes, present it to him and/or doctor and they will decide how to proceed. You all must agree, there are almost as many treatment options/opinions here as there are people, so who's right? Who's totally out in left field? No way for me to know, and I don't believe trying them all is a good idea.

You've all given me lots to explore, research and present to the doctors as things I want them to check out. Beyond that, only time will tell if they are able to stabilize things so he does'nt continue getting the infection.

I WILL add probiotics to his daily regimen. I will consider several of the other options I have read. And I will continue reading and learning. We have both been blessed to have been fairly healthy for most of our adult lives, so there would be a huge learning curve/change of lifestyle if you will (dietary changes, adding herbs/vitamins, etc.).
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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
Which antibiotics is he on?
Levaquin? More likely nowadays.
If he's on Keflex thats a problem

Surgeons put everyone on Keflex for the past 30 years, which is why most bacteria are resistant to it.
Antibiotic therapy needs to be directed by cultures, not ust guessing.

If the source is the mouth they may not be optimally effective.
Theres too many resitatant bugs to guess and being wrong can kill you.
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He is on cephalexin (sp?)
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My son had it. No surgery. No major wounds.


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Actually, it's a common misconception that only larger wounds cause blood infections.

More often than not, it's the small wounds, the ones most leave unattended.. (it's only a scratch)

Like my mother use to say, never ignore poor friends or small wounds...
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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
Which antibiotics is he on?
Levaquin? More likely nowadays.
If he's on Keflex thats a problem

Surgeons put everyone on Keflex for the past 30 years, which is why most bacteria are resistant to it.
Antibiotic therapy needs to be directed by cultures, not ust guessing.

If the source is the mouth they may not be optimally effective.
Theres too many resitatant bugs to guess and being wrong can kill you.
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He is on cephalexin (sp?)
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


Keflex, I thought so, a surgeons favorite. An antique broad spectrum antibiotic.
It still does work from time to time.
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The real issue is that the body, not the antibiotics are what really heal, the antibiotics just tilt the balance to some degree.
Those without a functioning immune system dont respond to antibiotics.
As you age your resistance steadily reduces until you get close to be AIDS-like because controller hormones are deficient and inadequately produced leaving you immunocompromiesed. To bump them back up to functionality you have to fool mother nature. The fact is that the stray bacteria is getting in here and there through cuts, the lungs, the the mouth, and the various holes further south depending how they are stretched or otherwise battered.
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My son had it. No surgery. No major wounds.


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Actually, it's a common misconception that only larger wounds cause blood infections.

More often than not, it's the small wounds, the ones most leave unattended.. (it's only a scratch)

Like my mother use to say, never ignore poor friends or small wounds...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72348076


I actually think you may be onto something here....hubs is ALWAYS bumping himself.....he's like a bull in a china shop! He will come in from working in the garage, for instance, and be bleeding profusely from a scrape against the garage door, or apiece of wood....

I will say, "How did you do that?"
He's like, "Do what? Oh, I guess I bumped it..."

LIKE IT'S NO BIGGIE! Apparently, it IS a biggie. Or could be.
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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
Just a feeling after reading your post....

His lymphatic system is compromised, and cannot clean the blood.
 Quoting: JJ Blueberry


Iím going to suggest this be checked out as well.

EVERY stone turned to find what is going on. As other men, he ďdoesnít like/trust doctors,Ē but the fact that this a recurring event now has him wondering what is truly wrong. I think I can convince him to explore further.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


Saying the lymphatic system is compromised is like saying your car sounds like its running funny.
It doesnt actually mean anything of significance.


One thing you arent aware of is that the immune system is naturally slowly shutting down with aging.
The various mechanisms are becoming less efficient with age, naturally, its programmed decrepitude.
The various hormones which mediate this are tanking and making the system functionally deficient with advancing age, and underlying disease states such as diabetes amplify this.

It's no exaggeration that aging is literally aging intending to lead to death.
Some of these pathways can be manipulated for a while, some cheaply, some at considerable expense.
Most doctors do not address this nor will they attend to it honestly.
There are a few people with the credentials and professional ethics to honestly counsel for strategies for reversing decrepitude and even then, the complexity of the system makes it impossible to promise anything.
Most of the time all you will get is someone providing overpriced overpromised potions with no proven potential other than potential for huge profits for the provider.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76555216


I humbly submit that you are wrong on this point you made, but what do I know, I'm just a random poster on the Internet, just like you.

Michelle B...I 'sometimes' get info from a source I know not where. Take it or leave it hf And come over to the Angel thread and see if Grumpier might be able to give you some insight.
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Fermented foods beat the hell out of probiotics, and a lot cheaper.
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you can make it yourself, don't worry you wont turn blue unless you take a lot over time.


google/ Make Your Own Colloidal Silver
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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
Just a feeling after reading your post....

His lymphatic system is compromised, and cannot clean the blood.
 Quoting: JJ Blueberry


Iím going to suggest this be checked out as well.

EVERY stone turned to find what is going on. As other men, he ďdoesnít like/trust doctors,Ē but the fact that this a recurring event now has him wondering what is truly wrong. I think I can convince him to explore further.

Thank you.
 Quoting: Deplorable NO MORE Michele B


Saying the lymphatic system is compromised is like saying your car sounds like its running funny.
It doesnt actually mean anything of significance.


One thing you arent aware of is that the immune system is naturally slowly shutting down with aging.
The various mechanisms are becoming less efficient with age, naturally, its programmed decrepitude.
The various hormones which mediate this are tanking and making the system functionally deficient with advancing age, and underlying disease states such as diabetes amplify this.

It's no exaggeration that aging is literally aging intending to lead to death.
Some of these pathways can be manipulated for a while, some cheaply, some at considerable expense.
Most doctors do not address this nor will they attend to it honestly.
There are a few people with the credentials and professional ethics to honestly counsel for strategies for reversing decrepitude and even then, the complexity of the system makes it impossible to promise anything.
Most of the time all you will get is someone providing overpriced overpromised potions with no proven potential other than potential for huge profits for the provider.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76555216


I humbly submit that you are wrong on this point you made, but what do I know, I'm just a random poster on the Internet, just like you.

Michelle B...I 'sometimes' get info from a source I know not where. Take it or leave it hf And come over to the Angel thread and see if Grumpier might be able to give you some insight.
 Quoting: JJ Blueberry


No I am NOT just a random poster on the net.
I've looked at life from both sides (by)now.
I know the systems up close and personal.
Unlike you I've saved lives with my unique information and ability to bypass the system, one needs just to notice and ask.
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I just went through this. For internal or and external

Chlorine Dioxide Solution (CDS)

Cured infection
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I just went through this. For internal or and external

Chlorine Dioxide Solution (CDS)

Cured infection
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I just went through this. For internal or and external

Chlorine Dioxide Solution (CDS)

Cured infection
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Where does one find this?
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Re: Any medical advice about "blood infection"
my guess would be dysbiosis, leaky gut syndrome

that means basically gut flora is out of balance, too many bad bacteria and theyíre taking over, they cause inflammation in the intestines, that enlarges the pores, and then stuff leaks through into the bloodstream

doctors donít ever acknowledge this because itís a major cause of chronic diseases and it would hurt drug sales if they addressed and treated this

you can look up treatment for leaky gut, itís mostly diet change (no inflammation causing foods like wheat and dairy) and tons of probiotics
 Quoting: Catseye


If he dies from lack of proper intervention will you admit you have no clue then or will you just walk away?

It's one thing to offer advice and quite another to take responsibility.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76555216


dumbass
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