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NO fissure at PGV plant, lava is getting closer.

 
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Opinions on this image. Lava has reached the PGV plant. That bright light looks like a fissure to me. This is a still image from a camera, updated about 15 min ago.



UPDATED title. New HVO warning. Sun, May 27.
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Sorry guys, I jumped the gun with the original thread. Daylight makes the location of the fissure a lot clearer. However, it does appear the lava is about to hit "Pad E", which does contain active wells.
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Last Edited by In Yer Neck on 05/27/2018 01:16 PM
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I think it's lava flow
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Time lapse video pinpointing location of the plant. Same cam, different scale.

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Re: NO fissure at PGV plant, lava is getting closer.
I think it's lava flow
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maybe just the light from the lava reflecting off the smoke?
could be. just looks different that the other lava flow.
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Re: NO fissure at PGV plant, lava is getting closer.
The webcams are operational 24/7 and faithfully record the dark of night if there are no sources of incandescence or other lights. Thermal webcams record heat rather than light and get better views through volcanic gas.
It's a thermal camera, keep that in mind.
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Opinions on this image. Lava has reached the PGV plant. That bright light looks like a fissure to me. This is a still image from a camera, updated about 15 min ago.
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This could very bad if this is so. We are in uncharted, negative territory here and will need the grace and mercy of God to make sure we do not have a catastrophe with this.
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shin this pit.......

once that power plant is consumed, it's over for the Big Island

that blue flame is sulfur coming out of the cracks of the earth

and today it's gotten worse, you can SEE the sulfur fumes

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Opinions on this image. Lava has reached the PGV plant. That bright light looks like a fissure to me. This is a still image from a camera, updated about 15 min ago.
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This could very bad if this is so. We are in uncharted, negative territory here and will need the grace and mercy of God to make sure we do not have a catastrophe with this.
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bump
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Not sure how to find the previous images, but I popped in & out of the webcam a couple hours ago, maybe 3am, and from what i recalled that giant blurb towards the front wasn't as spread out like it is now...think it may be overlapping the old lava flow.

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screen shots.

the first image is 20 minutes prior to the second.
the other 3 are 10 min intervals.

now, it looks different again.
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This does not look like lava on the ground to me.

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Opinions on this image. Lava has reached the PGV plant. That bright light looks like a fissure to me. This is a still image from a camera, updated about 15 min ago.
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What is "PGV plant"? Not radioactive?!
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Opinions on this image. Lava has reached the PGV plant. That bright light looks like a fissure to me. This is a still image from a camera, updated about 15 min ago.
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This could very bad if this is so. We are in uncharted, negative territory here and will need the grace and mercy of God to make sure we do not have a catastrophe with this.
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Asking for mercy from God when having showing not one bit of it to the land, the garden of Eden and its natives. En joy purgatory.
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Opinions on this image. Lava has reached the PGV plant. That bright light looks like a fissure to me. This is a still image from a camera, updated about 15 min ago.
 Quoting: In Yer Neck


This could very bad if this is so. We are in uncharted, negative territory here and will need the grace and mercy of God to make sure we do not have a catastrophe with this.
 Quoting: MasterJedi


Asking for mercy from God when having showing not one bit of it to the land, the garden of Eden and its natives. En joy purgatory.
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Why would you say something like this AC? I live In Hawaii and respect the earth and seas.
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HAWAIIAN VOLCANO OBSERVATORY STATUS REPORT
U.S. Geological Survey
Saturday, May 26, 2018, 11:42 PM HST (Sunday, May 27, 2018, 09:42 UTC)


KILAUEA VOLCANO (VNUM #332010)
19°25'16" N 155°17'13" W, Summit Elevation 4091 ft (1247 m)
Current Volcano Alert Level: WARNING
Current Aviation Color Code: RED

Kīlauea Volcano Lower East Rift Zone

Vigorous eruption of lava continues from the lower East Rift Zone fissure system in the area of Leilani Estates and Lanipuna Gardens. As of this morning, almost 2400 acres have been covered by new lava.

Fissures 22, 6, and 13 are feeding lava flows moving southeast to the coast southwest of Pohoiki. At midday today, two ocean entries were active. Over the past 24 hours, channels feeding these ocean entries have diminished somewhat in vigor, however the laze plume generated remains significant.

Fissure 21 is feeding an 'a'ā flow that has advanced to the northeast and this afternoon crossed Pahoa Pohoiki Road onto PGV property. Fissure 7 is feeding a flow that has turned south toward the coast, and at dusk the lava was cascading into the Pawaii crater, adjacent to the western margin of the fissure 6 flow that feeds one of the ocean entries.

A current (5/26 am HST) map of lava flows can be found here: [link to volcanoes.usgs.gov (secure)]

HVO field crews are on site tracking the fountains, lava flows, and spattering from multiple fissures as conditions allow and reporting information to Hawaii County Civil Defense. Crews are also checking on the status of ground cracks on Highway 130.

Volcanic gas emissions remain very high from the fissure eruptions. Trade winds are expected to diminish Sunday evening, which could expand the area impacted by vog.

Magma continues to be supplied to the lower East Rift Zone. Earthquake locations have not moved farther downrift in the past few days and the number of located earthquakes remains low.

Additional ground cracking and outbreaks of lava in the area of the active fissures are possible. Residents downslope of the region of fissures should heed all Hawaii County Civil Defense messages and warnings.

USGS/HVO continues to monitor the lower East Rift Zone activity 24/7 in coordination with Hawaii County Civil Defense.

Kīlauea Volcano Summit

Ash continued to erupt intermittently from the Overlook crater at the Kīlauea summit. Observations from the ground and by UAV during the past week have documented retreat of the Overlook crater wall due to collapse of the steep enclosing walls and rim. Trade winds took the ash clouds primarily to the southwest. Trade winds are expected to diminish Sunday evening and communities around the summit area could see ashfall.

Earthquakes in the summit region continue as the summit area subsides and adjusts to the withdrawal of magma.

Additional explosive events that could produce minor amounts of ashfall downwind are possible at any time. Volcanic gas emissions at the summit remain high.

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Overview of Kīlauea summit (Halemaʻumaʻu) and East Rift Zone (Puʻu ʻŌʻō ) eruptions:
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Summary of volcanic hazards from Kīlauea eruptions:
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Recent Earthquakes in Hawai'i (map and list):
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Opinions on this image. Lava has reached the PGV plant. That bright light looks like a fissure to me. This is a still image from a camera, updated about 15 min ago.
 Quoting: In Yer Neck


This could very bad if this is so. We are in uncharted, negative territory here and will need the grace and mercy of God to make sure we do not have a catastrophe with this.
 Quoting: MasterJedi


Asking for mercy from God when having showing not one bit of it to the land, the garden of Eden and its natives. En joy purgatory.
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Why would you say something like this AC? I live In Hawaii and respect the earth and seas.
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Sorry i'm a bitter soul. But there is much hypocrisy in this society and that bothers me very fucking much. But.. how was hawaii taken over again? Thats right, not kindly. You know karmic reactions? Time means no shit for karma, there is a building up until the right time when it "discharge". Thats how i see it, i hope no beings will suffer but im a realist. I sincerely hope Dolphins are alright.
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Thats Fissure 22 it's creating the lava flow.
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Thats Fissure 22 it's creating the lava flow.
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I don't think so. The cam points SW, fissure 22 is SE. At least according to the map.
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This could very bad if this is so. We are in uncharted, negative territory here and will need the grace and mercy of God to make sure we do not have a catastrophe with this.
 Quoting: MasterJedi


Asking for mercy from God when having showing not one bit of it to the land, the garden of Eden and its natives. En joy purgatory.
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Why would you say something like this AC? I live In Hawaii and respect the earth and seas.
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Sorry i'm a bitter soul. But there is much hypocrisy in this society and that bothers me very fucking much. But.. how was hawaii taken over again? Thats right, not kindly. You know karmic reactions? Time means no shit for karma, there is a building up until the right time when it "discharge". Thats how i see it, i hope no beings will suffer but im a realist. I sincerely hope Dolphins are alright.
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I dont see how Hawaii was taken over has to do with my post or necessitates your your unkind comments. We respect the land and seas. Anyway, have a good day.

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Thats Fissure 22 it's creating the lava flow.
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Fissure 21 actually, I believe
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Latest photo looks like lava is flowing over the hill!
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Opinions on this image. Lava has reached the PGV plant. That bright light looks like a fissure to me. This is a still image from a camera, updated about 15 min ago.
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What is "PGV plant"? Not radioactive?!
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Puna Geothermal Venture (PGV)

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EPA fines Hawaii’s Puna Geothermal Venture for safety violations


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Is Geothermal Fracking Good For Hawaii?


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This could very bad if this is so. We are in uncharted, negative territory here and will need the grace and mercy of God to make sure we do not have a catastrophe with this.
 Quoting: MasterJedi


Asking for mercy from God when having showing not one bit of it to the land, the garden of Eden and its natives. En joy purgatory.
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Why would you say something like this AC? I live In Hawaii and respect the earth and seas.
 Quoting: MasterJedi


Sorry i'm a bitter soul. But there is much hypocrisy in this society and that bothers me very fucking much. But.. how was hawaii taken over again? Thats right, not kindly. You know karmic reactions? Time means no shit for karma, there is a building up until the right time when it "discharge". Thats how i see it, i hope no beings will suffer but im a realist. I sincerely hope Dolphins are alright.
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Should Europe only be for whites. Or are so you just hold your racist hatred for whites globally?
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Opinions on this image. Lava has reached the PGV plant. That bright light looks like a fissure to me. This is a still image from a camera, updated about 15 min ago.
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What is "PGV plant"? Not radioactive?!
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It is a Thermal Plant nothing radioactive at all!
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New lava flow crosses onto Hawaii geothermal plant property

27 May 2018 - 9:40
New lava flow crosses onto Hawaii geothermal plant property
Puna Geothermal Venture is seen near a lava field from the Kilauea Volcano in the Leilani Estates near Pahoa, Hawaii, U.S., May 24, 2018. REUTERS/Marco Garcia
By Jolyn Rosa | Reuters

HONOLULU: A broad lava flow crossed onto the property of a Hawaii geothermal power station on Saturday, posing a new hazard as molten rock from the erupting Kilauea volcano bulldozed relentlessly through homes and backyards.

The lava crossed onto the Puna Geothermal Venture (PGV) Saturday evening local time, according to the U.S. Geological Survey, having destroyed dozens of nearby houses in the past few days.

Since Hawaii's Kilauea volcano began a once-in-a-century-scale eruption May 3, authorities have shutdown the plant, removed 60,000 gallons of flammable liquid and deactivated wells that tap into steam and gas deep in the Earth's core.

Magma has drained from Kilauea's summit lava lake and flowed around 25 miles (40 km) east underground, bursting out of about two dozen giant cracks or fissures near the plant.

"The flow from fissures 21 and 7 was widening and advancing," Janet Snyder, a spokeswoman for the County of Hawaii, said in an email on the position of lava heading northeast towards PGV at 12:30 p.m. (6:00 p.m. ET)
Hawaii Governor David Ige has said the wells are stable.

But lava has never engulfed a geothermal plant anywhere in the world and the potential threat is untested, according to the head of the state's emergency management agency. Local residents fear an explosive emission of deadly hydrogen sulfide and other gases should wells be ruptured.

270 EARTHQUAKES IN ONE DAY

Residents have complained of health hazards from emissions from the plant since it went online in 1989 and PGV has been the target of lawsuits challenging its location on the flank of one of the world's most active volcanoes.

The Israeli-owned 38 megawatt plant typically provides around 25 percent of electricity on the Big Island, according to local power utility Hawaii Electric Light.

Operator Ormat Technologies Inc last week said there was no above-ground damage to the plant but it would have to wait until the situation stabilized to assess the impact of earthquakes and subterranean lava flows on the wells.

In just the past 24 hours there were between 250 and 270 earthquakes at Kilauea's summit, with four explosions on Saturday sending ash to altitudes as high as 12,000-15,000 feet, said Stovall and National Weather Service meteorologist John Bravender.

Winds are set to shift on Monday and Tuesday, causing higher concentrations of ash and volcanic smog that will spread west and northwest to affect more populated areas, Bravender said.

U.S. Marine Corp and National Guard helicopters are on standby for an air evacuation in the event fissure activity cuts off Highway 130, the last exit route for up to 1,000 coastal residents. Cracks in the highway have yet to emit hydrogen sulfide gas which would indicate magma was rising towards the surface, Stovall said.
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Need to keep eyes on this, folks. Pop-offs tend to cause chain reactions. You know...for every action there's an opposite yet equal reaction.
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Opinions on this image. Lava has reached the PGV plant. That bright light looks like a fissure to me. This is a still image from a camera, updated about 15 min ago.
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What is "PGV plant"? Not radioactive?!
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You are the 1st to mention radiation.
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The danger is magma hitting well water.

That will flash water into steam very rapid. Create extreme over pressure just like a bomb.

The one escape route is out the top of the well. The force of escaping steam, magma and debris will erode and tear open the well.

Can the magma create such an exploding event all the way down 8000 feet? If so, more than half of of that would be under sea level.


See the potential?
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"The flow from fissures 21 and 7 was widening and advancing," Janet Snyder, a spokeswoman for the County of Hawaii, said in an email on the position of lava heading northeast toward PGV at 12:30 p.m. (6:00 p.m. ET)

Hawaii Governor David Ige has said the wells are stable.

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They had said that they are in uncharted territory as to what will happen hiding





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