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NO fissure at PGV plant, lava is getting closer.

 
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shin this pit.......

once that power plant is consumed, it's over for the Big Island

that blue flame is sulfur coming out of the cracks of the earth

and today it's gotten worse, you can SEE the sulfur fumes


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Re: NO fissure at PGV plant, lava is getting closer.
I hate to say this but it's all going to burn.

And it's going to burn down to the ground and submerge itself.

I had an NDE back in 2008 but wide awake....conscious and "something" took me high above the earth in a blink and I saw everything. A transparent "being" asked me without moving their mouth if i recognized the image below and I responding "yes" but in my mind and they understood.

I was flung right back down and was on my bed but not asleep.
Window behind me and then i felt the heat. Everything was on fire. It got close to me but it did not burn me.

Now at the time I was living in another location and for years wondered if this was related to where I was, at the time. Now I am in ground zero for this disaster and everything I sensed then is happening now. Folks I am so sorry but it's over. It's all going to burn up and exist no longer.

If you are in the area of this plant you need to leave now. Seriously.
It's going to burn and spread over the entire land.
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"The flow from fissures 21 and 7 was widening and advancing," Janet Snyder, a spokeswoman for the County of Hawaii, said in an email on the position of lava heading northeast toward PGV at 12:30 p.m. (6:00 p.m. ET)

Hawaii Governor David Ige has said the wells are stable.

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They had said that they are in uncharted territory as to what will happen hiding
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He's full of cornbread stuffing. A liar too.

Thread: Seriously: WTF Governor David Yutaka Ige....Your STATE is burning and you still have an "open for business" mentality. Is Hawaii full of ret

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pretty much this

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I hate to say this but it's all going to burn.

And it's going to burn down to the ground and submerge itself.

I had an NDE back in 2008 but wide awake....conscious and "something" took me high above the earth in a blink and I saw everything. A transparent "being" asked me without moving their mouth if i recognized the image below and I responding "yes" but in my mind and they understood.

I was flung right back down and was on my bed but not asleep.
Window behind me and then i felt the heat. Everything was on fire. It got close to me but it did not burn me.

Now at the time I was living in another location and for years wondered if this was related to where I was, at the time. Now I am in ground zero for this disaster and everything I sensed then is happening now. Folks I am so sorry but it's over. It's all going to burn up and exist no longer.

If you are in the area of this plant you need to leave now. Seriously.
It's going to burn and spread over the entire land.
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Wow!
I'm interested and have questions.

Where are you going to go, and why do you live on an active volcano after that vision?
What did you see exactly?
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Asking for mercy from God when having showing not one bit of it to the land, the garden of Eden and its natives. En joy purgatory.
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Why would you say something like this AC? I live In Hawaii and respect the earth and seas.
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Sorry i'm a bitter soul. But there is much hypocrisy in this society and that bothers me very fucking much. But.. how was hawaii taken over again? Thats right, not kindly. You know karmic reactions? Time means no shit for karma, there is a building up until the right time when it "discharge". Thats how i see it, i hope no beings will suffer but im a realist. I sincerely hope Dolphins are alright.
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Should Europe only be for whites. Or are so you just hold your racist hatred for whites globally?
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putin-thiss


I hope in WROL some left wing dirtbag starts spouting communist BS like that tripe to me.
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From your link:

"This image is from a temporary research camera positioned near Kapoho looking southwest. From left to right, one can see the eruptive fissures, with Fissure 15 on the far left, and Fissure 10 near the center."
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From your link:

"This image is from a temporary research camera positioned near Kapoho looking southwest. From left to right, one can see the eruptive fissures, with Fissure 15 on the far left, and Fissure 10 near the center."
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I don't know if that part has been updated. Fissure 10 is about 3/4 of a mile away. It would have to be massive to produce a bright glow like that, especially right in the center of the cam. 15 is more believable, as still being to the left.
This is a 50 sec time lapse of the same cam from may 5-12. You can see The lights from part of the plant at night. You can also see that there were no fissures that close, or at least not that large.


wish I could find a more recent time lapse to compare, but as of yet I have not.

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Anybody for eggs and bacon?
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Re: NO fissure at PGV plant, lava is getting closer.
Map as of 3:00 p.m. HST, May 26. Shaded purple areas indicate lava flows erupted in 1840, 1955, 1960, and 2014-2015.

[link to volcanoes.usgs.gov (secure)]

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Re: NO fissure at PGV plant, lava is getting closer.
Map as of 3:00 p.m. HST, May 26. Shaded purple areas indicate lava flows erupted in 1840, 1955, 1960, and 2014-2015.

[link to volcanoes.usgs.gov (secure)]
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and all the Pink area represents hardened lava from
the flows of the past month.

the only current lava flows are the dark red areas
and the 2 red dash lines going to the Sea.

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Map as of 3:00 p.m. HST, May 26. Shaded purple areas indicate lava flows erupted in 1840, 1955, 1960, and 2014-2015.

[link to volcanoes.usgs.gov (secure)]
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and all the Pink area represents hardened lava from
the flows of the past month.

the only current lava flows are the dark red areas
and the 2 red dash lines going to the Sea.

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And it is also not accurate. The lava has already crossed Pohoike rd, which they note, but is not shown.
It's been swell, but the swellings gone down.- Tank girl

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[link to volcanoes.usgs.gov (secure)]

Opinions on this image. Lava has reached the PGV plant. That bright light looks like a fissure to me. This is a still image from a camera, updated about 15 min ago.
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What is "PGV plant"? Not radioactive?!
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It is a Thermal Plant nothing radioactive at all!
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That's what we're told. I have questions regarding the ownership of the plant, and whatever might be down those holes.
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Map as of 3:00 p.m. HST, May 26. Shaded purple areas indicate lava flows erupted in 1840, 1955, 1960, and 2014-2015.

[link to volcanoes.usgs.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Vendico


and all the Pink area represents hardened lava from
the flows of the past month.

the only current lava flows are the dark red areas
and the 2 red dash lines going to the Sea.

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 Quoting: freddie 0


And it is also not accurate. The lava has already crossed Pohoike rd, which they note, but is not shown.
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i think the larger point is that that the lava flows
have greatly diminished,
while the Ash Cloud Explosions from the Kilauea Summit Main Crater have increased.

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Re: NO fissure at PGV plant, lava is getting closer.
Cross-posting this map from the other thread. It has a lot of good, clickable info and really shows the close proximity of the PGV wells to the active fissures.

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It seems difficult to argue the proximity of these deep-drilled wells to this event is just coincidence. There is likely correlation or at least some sort of cause-effect reaction going on.
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[link to volcanoes.usgs.gov (secure)]

Opinions on this image. Lava has reached the PGV plant. That bright light looks like a fissure to me. This is a still image from a camera, updated about 15 min ago.
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What is "PGV plant"? Not radioactive?!
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It is a Thermal Plant nothing radioactive at all!
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That's what we're told. I have questions regarding the ownership of the plant, and whatever might be down those holes.
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Speculation of residual highly flammable Pentane. And then, Hilina Slump if this becomes an explosive situation dynamite
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From : Hawaii News Now:

"New image debunks misconception of scale of Big Island lava flow"

Map:
[link to www.hawaiinewsnow.com]

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Re: NO fissure at PGV plant, lava is getting closer.
Well, the fissure is definitely not at the plant. But it is massive.
Trying to figure out which one it is. According to the cam it should be # 10, if that info is current. That fissure was 3/4 of a mile away though.

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Sun, May 27th update. 6:51am HST

Lava flow heading towards PGV, is from fissure 21. However,the rate of advance has slowed overnight coincident with an observed decline in the vigor of fountaining.
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Hawaii volcano lava flow crosses onto geothermal plant's property as more escape routes threatened

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milekalincoln#BREAKING #LeilaniEstatesEruption #KilaueaVolcano (May 27 at 6:30 AM): Area residents signed up for Hawaiʻi County Civil Defense Agency’s Blackboard messaging service just received this alert: “HVO reports lava flow in Leilani Estates crossed into PGV property overnight. County, State & Fed agencies continue to monitor Hydrogen Sulfide levels. No Hydrogen Sulfide has been detected.” I have reached out to Civil Defense and Puna Geothermal Venture officials to clarify with the following questions, but have not yet heard back: 1. Does this mean lava has reached the 40 acres which PGV officials define as their operational plant site? 2. Do you know how close the flow is to the well field? 3. Has PGV evacuated its personnel? 4. Are there any additional evacuations as a result of lava making its way onto the plant property? 5. How often will hydrogen sulfide levels be checked? 6. What would trigger a mass mandatory evacuation of the area? PGV officials maintain they believe they have mitigated the threat of an uncontrolled release of hydrogen sulfide — a deadly gas — if lava inundates their property and makes contact with their wells. Ten of the 11 wells were quenched — a process in which the well is injected with water to cool and depressurization it. An 11th well was plugged with bentonite clay after proving resistant to quenching efforts. We are told that mud-like substance is holding up and the pressure in the 11th well has stayed down. However, PGV officials have conceded they don’t know if hydrogen sulfide is the only possible hazard the community could face if lava interacts with their wells. Stay tuned to @HawaiiNewsNow for the very latest developments #HInews #HawaiiNews #HNN #HawaiiNewsNow #WeAreYourSource (Video: Dave Okita)
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Re: NO fissure at PGV plant, lava is getting closer.
Look at this map and one has to wonder, why is PGV right in the middle of it all? Coincidence or did they screw up under ground?

It really does look like they created a magma leak and it is creeping out the fault line to the south of the plant.

Then there is the geological issue of adding magma to a moving fault.

Magma in the fault is not good no matter what paid off scientist tells you. That is an immediate threat to stability of that entire Slump
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Look at this map and one has to wonder, why is PGV right in the middle of it all? Coincidence or did they screw up under ground?

It really does look like they created a magma leak and it is creeping out the fault line to the south of the plant.

Then there is the geological issue of adding magma to a moving fault.

Magma in the fault is not good no matter what paid off scientist tells you. That is an immediate threat to stability of that entire Slump
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it's even curious that there is a straight line of
Fissures that just popped-up.

has anyone ever seen a straight like of gopher holes?

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this is what will happen to hawaii

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this is what will happen to hawaii

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starting at the 2:00 mark listen very carefully and watch
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Sunday Morning Update May 27th
Lava continues to head towards PGV (Geothermal)

Fissure 21 is feeding an 'a'ā flow that has advanced to the northeast across Pahoa Pohoiki Road onto PGV property. There is a large lava lake type of area that is forming as it's been spreading out in the area. As of early this morning, reports have said that it's
88 feet from Pad E on Geothermal property.

It’s definitely a weird spot, some could end up going down Pohoiki road, but it is already built up pretty high down there because of previous fissures by Kahukai. Early this morning it seems to be continuing it’s NE push towards the steepest descent line as you can see in the latest web cam image. Overflight images will tell us a lot today.

Fissures 22, 6, and 13 are feeding lava flows moving southeast to the coast southwest of Pohoiki. There are still two ocean entries that are active. Over the past 24 hours, channels feeding these ocean entries have diminished somewhat in vigor, however the laze plume generated remains significant. This shows that there is definitely some lava tubing being formed at one or both of the ocean entry’s.

Fissure 7 is feeding a flow that has turned south toward the coast, and at dusk the lava was cascading into the Pawaii crater, adjacent to the western margin of the fissure 6 flow that feeds one of the ocean entries. This flow will likely head down and join the other flows heading to the ocean along the same path as they are currently taking. How much will depend on where the lava from the next few fissures uprift decides to go. That’s a toss up at this point.

So we have three flows. One going to the ocean fed by three fissures (22,6,13) one going towards PGV and Highway 132 (21) and one that is heading into Pawaii crater and generally towards the ocean.
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We vacationed in the Hawaiian Islands in 1990....during spring break for my young teens. Our first stop was The Big Island. My kids romped on the black sand of Kalapana Beach where palm trees grew. It was so beautiful! Fine, granular black sand.

We drove and observed roads that were blocked by lava flow. At night, we stood on the beach behind ropes that blocked us from going further, and we watched the lava flow into the ocean. We listened to the sizzling sound of it hitting the water and steam erupting. We stood next to people who said they wondered if their houses were still standing because they had to evacuate a few days earlier.

Within a few months of returning home, we read that the famous black sand beach, where my kids romped, was covered with new lava! I was so grateful that my kids and I got to see how lava from volcanos create new land, but I was sad to read that the beach was now covered with lava, rocks, and the palm trees were destroyed.

This shows photos, and how new lava covered that beach.
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Look at this map and one has to wonder, why is PGV right in the middle of it all? Coincidence or did they screw up under ground?

It really does look like they created a magma leak and it is creeping out the fault line to the south of the plant.

Then there is the geological issue of adding magma to a moving fault.

Magma in the fault is not good no matter what paid off scientist tells you. That is an immediate threat to stability of that entire Slump
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it's even curious that there is a straight line of
Fissures that just popped-up.

has anyone ever seen a straight like of gopher holes?

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 Quoting: freddie 0


There is another theory we thought about.

The slump is beginning to slide, but VERY slowly at first. Bit by bit as 5000 cubic miles isn't all locked together 100%.

So the sliding would have slow skips and jolts before the apparent motion becomes measurable.

Considering the weight of 5000 cubic miles of earth, the resulting friction/pressures against the base of which Hilina slides on. Such amounts of heat generated may be enough to forge magma and spew it out along the fault line. Which would be the easiest path out.

Maybe it isn't volcanic activity separate from Hilina Slump but a result of Hilina starting to slide. Which was caused by PGV swelling the land behind it with steam under pressure.
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Re: NO fissure at PGV plant, lava is getting closer.
Look at this map and one has to wonder, why is PGV right in the middle of it all? Coincidence or did they screw up under ground?

It really does look like they created a magma leak and it is creeping out the fault line to the south of the plant.

Then there is the geological issue of adding magma to a moving fault.

Magma in the fault is not good no matter what paid off scientist tells you. That is an immediate threat to stability of that entire Slump
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it's even curious that there is a straight line of
Fissures that just popped-up.

has anyone ever seen a straight like of gopher holes?

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 Quoting: freddie 0

Also, I thought fissures occurred next to a main eruption. This is a main eruption itself.

What's your take on that?





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