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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76626648 United States 05/29/2018 12:24 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. Was Donald Trump preventing any lawlessness 2,000 years ago? Has Donald Trump been present since then 'til now? NO. |
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Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 69118812 Canada 05/29/2018 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626648 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. Was Donald Trump preventing any lawlessness 2,000 years ago? Has Donald Trump been present since then 'til now? NO. Fair enough. But it does say “ he who NOW restrains”- could this refer to several Restrainers and the last one is Trump? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76469768 United States 05/29/2018 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of these Q-Tards are gonna be heartbroken when they learn he is a false prophet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74947342 I hope you are wrong but time will tell ultimately. It cannot happen any other way biblically speaking. The antichrist will come to power when the restrainer is taken out of the way, and he is not in full power yet because he hasn't taken out Israel and Iran is still fully intact. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76469768 United States 05/29/2018 12:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | A lot of these Q-Tards are gonna be heartbroken when they learn he is a false prophet. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74947342 I hope you are wrong but time will tell ultimately. It cannot happen any other way biblically speaking. The antichrist will come to power when the restrainer is taken out of the way, and he is not in full power yet because he hasn't taken out Israel and Iran is still fully intact. so with that noted that neither has happened yet. It is Coming! |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 69118812 Canada 05/29/2018 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's the sad part op, Jevvs don't believe in the Antichrist, so when they get hit, they wont even believe it when it happens. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74947342 It’s someone they TRUST that betrays them. Assuming it’s not one of their own leaders, it’s a foreigner that’s a Trojan horse. Someone they allow to get too close. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76469768 United States 05/29/2018 12:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's the sad part op, Jevvs don't believe in the Antichrist, so when they get hit, they wont even believe it when it happens. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74947342 It’s someone they TRUST that betrays them. Assuming it’s not one of their own leaders, it’s a foreigner that’s a Trojan horse. Someone they allow to get too close. Well its a horn that is already on the goats head. and he is called the 1st King, so that could mean Obama, or it could be a king already in place. like the King of Turkey. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 74947342 Netherlands 05/29/2018 12:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is a clue in this verse that he comes out of the north of Israel and spreads his sphere of power to the south and east and west to the promised land which is Israel. And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. 10And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them. 11Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. 12And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered. 13Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76469768 United States 05/29/2018 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is a clue in this verse that he comes out of the north of Israel and spreads his sphere of power to the south and east and west to the promised land which is Israel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74947342 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. 10And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them. 11Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. 12And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered. 13Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. this would make it Turkey or Russia. |
Anonymous Coward (OP) User ID: 69118812 Canada 05/29/2018 01:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is a clue in this verse that he comes out of the north of Israel and spreads his sphere of power to the south and east and west to the promised land which is Israel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74947342 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. 10And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them. 11Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. 12And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered. 13Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. this would make it Turkey or Russia. New theory: new POTUS after Trump is anti Israel. Israel now turns to Russia for protection. Russia is the Trojan Horse. Then one day Kaboom when Gog goes wild without warning ..... |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76469768 United States 05/29/2018 01:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | there is a clue in this verse that he comes out of the north of Israel and spreads his sphere of power to the south and east and west to the promised land which is Israel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 74947342 And out of one of them came forth a little horn, which waxed exceeding great, toward the south, and toward the east, and toward the pleasant land. 10And it waxed great, even to the host of heaven; and it cast down some of the host and of the stars to the ground, and stamped upon them. 11Yea, he magnified himself even to the prince of the host, and by him the daily sacrifice was taken away, and the place of his sanctuary was cast down. 12And an host was given him against the daily sacrifice by reason of transgression, and it cast down the truth to the ground; and it practised, and prospered. 13Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot? 14And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed. this would make it Turkey or Russia. New theory: new POTUS after Trump is anti Israel. Israel now turns to Russia for protection. Russia is the Trojan Horse. Then one day Kaboom when Gog goes wild without warning ..... Most American Presidential Candidates in the Democrat party are very anti Israel |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76469768 United States 05/29/2018 01:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Fair enough. But it does say “ he who NOW restrains”- could this refer to several Restrainers and the last one is Trump? Quoting: Steamer "Now" was 2,000 years ago then... It was not Trump... so the end times and the great and terrible day of the Lord happened 2000 years ago? |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76469768 United States 05/29/2018 01:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He who is now Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626648 will do so until he is taken out of the way so the lawless one can come in. It makes no sense in any other way than that "the Restrainer" is the Holy Spirit. When God's Holy Spirit is removed, then the spirit of the evil one fully comes in, in my opinion. That's pretty good interpretation too |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76626648 United States 05/29/2018 01:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He who is now Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626648 will do so until he is taken out of the way so the lawless one can come in. It makes no sense in any other way than that "the Restrainer" is the Holy Spirit. When God's Holy Spirit is removed, then the spirit of the evil one fully comes in, in my opinion. That's pretty good interpretation too Now... the next question is How is God's Holy Spirit removed? How is it/He here? Some say, overall, while the Holy Spirit is everywhere, it is most present in the Believers in God so that the Holy Spirit everywhere but also in Believers will be removed. This doesn't mean the Spirit will be taken from Believers but that the Believers are taken out at the same time the Holy Spirit is removed. The Rapture. I believe this to be the Truth of the whole counsel of Scripture. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76469768 United States 05/29/2018 01:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | He who is now Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626648 will do so until he is taken out of the way so the lawless one can come in. It makes no sense in any other way than that "the Restrainer" is the Holy Spirit. When God's Holy Spirit is removed, then the spirit of the evil one fully comes in, in my opinion. That's pretty good interpretation too Now... the next question is How is God's Holy Spirit removed? How is it/He here? Some say, overall, while the Holy Spirit is everywhere, it is most present in the Believers in God so that the Holy Spirit everywhere but also in Believers will be removed. This doesn't mean the Spirit will be taken from Believers but that the Believers are taken out at the same time the Holy Spirit is removed. The Rapture. I believe this to be the Truth of the whole counsel of Scripture. I'm not a big fan of the rapture theory because scripture says every believer on earth will go thru tribulation. so if you haven't gone thru tribulation, you can bet its coming in one form or another. |
Gog / Magog ??? IS it? User ID: 76626982 United States 05/29/2018 01:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you these things? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76626648 And now you know what is restraining, that he may be revealed in his own time. For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only He who now restrains will do so until He is taken out of the way. And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming. The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders, and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved. Was Donald Trump preventing any lawlessness 2,000 years ago? Has Donald Trump been present since then 'til now? NO. Gog and Magog? A spiritual battle that manifests outward to the physical world? Consider: We wrestle against "principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, [and] against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places" (Ephesians 6:12). Often, we like to designate this means that and that means this and like to tie things in a neat little package. But what if, like a thief in the night, the enemy comes and we never recognized it? Know thy enemy? Could the very "walls" referred to in scripture signify "spiritual" walls, as well as those in the physical world? When could either of the two be a good thing for a person to believe-on and in, or a bad thing to do? Walls are not good or bad, it's the intention behind their use that is or either isn't. But walls have a purpose which is never realized if they aren't present. With the before-mentioned battle waging, having walls would be a good thing as protection. Physically and symbolically. In closing, I'll leave an article by Amy Van Gerpin, from her blog titled: "Tracking Bible Prophecy: The Gog and Magog War," which I when I read it, resonated with me. It's interesting to compare how Amy saw future events, which hadn't happened yet, to what we now know has happened. It brings a new light on things, in very subtle ways, but the implications are interesting, to say the least. With what we know has come to pass. USE DISCERNMENT and always refer to the WORD in your heart and It will inform the mind. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76627000 United States 05/29/2018 01:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Every Believer is promised tribulation in this world and has had it. Believing gets you no free easy anything in this life. That does not mean that we are promised The Tribulation, The Great Tribulation, The Wrath of God! |
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