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Ever see a baby realize that it has hands and feet?

All our lives we realize who we are. I think some new age crazies come up with all kinds of silly things, and call it "self-realization."

If you want to know what actual self realization is, it's realizing who you really are in the sight of God.

It won't bring warm fuzzies and rainbows. And it won't be like you're barefoot in a field full of lavender flowers.

It shakes up everything you thought you knew.
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That new age stuff is bullcrap.

It didnt hit me till I got baptized that I in myself can literally do nothing to earn my way to heaven.. I've acted like crap most of my life, and it is literally ONLY THE GRACE OF GOD that will save us, that and Jesus.

If I remember what Jesus did to cover our sins then I need not doubt anymore.

That hippy happy sunshine stuff is deception.

You have to be honest about who you are. And it's scary to realize that.
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Infinite Bliss is the Self.
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To be as I once was:)

In the silence is where you find yourself.


your own subconscious mind tells you the truth, once you can see within it,

a self generation, it is as though you think a question, and answer yourself in the dream.

Like a cup that fills itself. I think of it as the innermost opening of the innermost chambers, the cave of Truth where the sacred white stone sits ."TRUTH IS IN THE "EYE" SOUL/Sol OF THE BEHOLDER". The celestial marriage.


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It is between you and God within.
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An actual self-realized one will not share it with others, he will not even speak to others, trust me...
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Nobody is defeating anything. Humans are living lives of delusion on every level. Nothing will matter once you die, so why give a shit about anything?
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If you don't shine your lampstand, it will be taken away from you.


But I have this against you: You have abandoned your first love.

Therefore, keep in mind how far you have fallen. Repent and perform the deeds you did at first.

But if you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place.

But you have this to your credit: You hate the works of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. Rev 2:5
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Self Realization: The moment you realize you're all by your self!
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An actual self-realized one will not share it with others, he will not even speak to others, trust me...
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Some do, in compassion.
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I have experienced self realization and the accompanying BLISSFUL feeling that goes with this event is what gives it such authenticity. I have followed St Germain's teaching for 20 years and more .. The magic words are I AM THAT I AM.
The aim is to connect with your divinity. I was practising this one day while lying on my bed. Completely relaxed and saying the words to myself. Suddenly I shot into this blissful state. I knew who I was and who everyone was.
It was extraordinary and to tell the truth I have not had the desire to reach for it again.
I know that I hold the key.

Life has been hectic for some years and I have had little time to meditate. hf
I'm a long time reader and contributor to GLP. Love to delve into the issues presented there. Have made many friends.
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Know yourself in deep and you will know everybody.
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And how sure of this are you? I'd bet the whole point of the "anomaly" is that there will always be something you cannot comprehend as is meant to be. Good luck anyway ;)
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When you get really familiar w/ your self you will realize deep down everybody is the anomaly.
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Yeahhhhh no. There are definitely different types of "beings" on this Earth with different roles, and to pretend otherwise is just dishonest. Again, you will never understand everything. I know this is a tough pill to swallow and you will most likely continue to try and "learn" Good luck ;)
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I did not say your "everything",
I said "EVERYBODY. God inclusive.
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Semantics, everybody is included in everything. We will never understand God. To think so is ludicrous and places limits on that which cannot be limited. Humble pie tastes great ;)
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LOL do I speak with low IQ AI? Neither I said your "to understand", learn comprehending the written properly. Not your personal imaginations about.
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My point is proven. Have fun with yourself ;)
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There is no other way to God than through your self, you are turning your back on the only escaping the sorrows inevitable. Have fun with everybody else ;)
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All of illusion and knowledge has existence only through our being conscious of it.
We are only able to observe because of the I-am-ness. When I-am-ness is not there the tool to observe is also not there. The quality of beingness comes and goes. The one who understands that is beyond birth and death. Beyond desire and no desire you will be unconcerned. This I-am-ness merges in the Absolute.

- Shri Nisargadatta Maharaj - (edited)
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To understand the coming and going of consciousness (I-am-ness) is crucial for liberation.
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What you define as you is inseparable from everything which you define not you, just as front is inseparable from back.
Between self and other there is some sort of conspiracy. These things always occur in combination and look very different from each other and feel quit different. Nevertheless the feeling of difference between them allows each one to exist … there is something in common, for example between figure and background, you cannot have an organism without an environment.
- Alan Watts -
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Q: But since all exists by your light, are you not the creator of the world?

M: I am neither the potentiality nor the actualisation, nor the actuality of things. In my light they come and go as the specks of dust dancing in the sunbeam. The light illumines the specks, but does not depend on them. Nor can it be said to create them. It cannot be even said to know them.

- Shri Nisargadatta Maharaj -
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Q: Is the ‘I am’ the Ultimate?
M: Before you can say: ‘I am’, you must be there to say it. The real being need not be self-conscious. You need not know to be, but you must be to know.
“I am“ can only tell you what you are not. Hence there is no point in searching for the absolute truth through the medium of intellect. Indeed, you will realize that the very effort of searching is an obstruction, because the instrument with which you are searching is the divided mind.
-Shri Nisargadatta Maharaj-
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With the appearance of the knowledge I-am appears the space and and the four elements, your beingness (the sense I-am) gives rise to them. First beingness then others. Beingness is the parent of the five elemental world.

Beingness cannot understand the Absolute is beyond the being and non-being. Beingness and the Absolute are not parts of the same thing as themselves they are untouchables. … The Absolute does not know itself, (so) get rid off all concepts … Prior to concepts and memory is the I am. .. Go to the source of all movement which is the beingness .. Beingness is observed by the ultimate absolute that has no senses


You are because of your beingness. If it goes the world goes. With beingness the world is. … All activities take place because you know you are. … All experience is because of the beingness … the manifestation of you are is because of the 5 elements. …

Self-love is spontaneous, you cannot have control over it. Yet you do everything for it. … Do not try to get rid of it, understand it and it will go. Everything is spontaneous. … you have no choice. … This I am is itself mirsery. Sages have no beingness.


This I AM idea was not born with you. You could have lived very well without it. It came later due to your self-identification with the body. It created an illusion of separation where there was none. It made you a stranger in your own world.

Without the sense I AM life goes on (jnani). … moments without the sense I AM at peace and happy, with the return of I AM trouble starts.
No ambition is spiritual, all ambitions are for the sake I AM.


Being remains, but not self-being (liberation).
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True knowledge of yourself is the only solution to your problem. With that knowledge, your hopes, desires, and cravings will vanish; with that, anger and hatred will also go. When you see yourself as formless, all your problems will lose their resting place.

-Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj
Nothing is Everything - Mohan Gaitonde
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So very true.
He was the true destroyer of illusions.
Woke the hell out of me :)
I thank you Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj for your Gift :)
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Beingness (the sense I-am) is unable to understand the Absolute is beyond the being and non-being. The Absolute does not know itself, (hence) get rid off all concepts.

Beingness and the Absolute are not parts of the same thing as themselves they are untouchables.


- Shri Nisargadatta Maharaj -
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M: You did not have this concept “I Am” in the course of the nine months in the womb. Understand this state of affairs; the concept “I Am” comes spontaneously and goes spontaneously. Amazingly, when it appears, it is accepted as real. All subsequent misconceptions arise from that feeling of reality in the “I Amness”. Try to stabilize in that primary concept “I Am”, in order to lose that and with it all other concepts. Why am I totally free? Because I have understood the unreality of that “I Am”.
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Nothing more real than being by your self!

What's the difference between self realization and a Nihilist?

Not much except for the fear.
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Nothing more real than being by your self!

What's the difference between self realization and a Nihilist?

Not much except for the fear.
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Self-realization lies beyond the mind, beyond imagination. B/c the self is the source of all mind activity. Nihilism is just another ideology.
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Ever see a baby realize that it has hands and feet?

All our lives we realize who we are. I think some new age crazies come up with all kinds of silly things, and call it "self-realization."

If you want to know what actual self realization is, it's realizing who you really are in the sight of God.

It won't bring warm fuzzies and rainbows. And it won't be like you're barefoot in a field full of lavender flowers.

It shakes up everything you thought you knew.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71503346


That new age stuff is bullcrap.

It didnt hit me till I got baptized that I in myself can literally do nothing to earn my way to heaven.. I've acted like crap most of my life, and it is literally ONLY THE GRACE OF GOD that will save us, that and Jesus.

If I remember what Jesus did to cover our sins then I need not doubt anymore.

That hippy happy sunshine stuff is deception.

You have to be honest about who you are. And it's scary to realize that.
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This isn’t a new age thread.
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Ever see a baby realize that it has hands and feet?

All our lives we realize who we are. I think some new age crazies come up with all kinds of silly things, and call it "self-realization."

If you want to know what actual self realization is, it's realizing who you really are in the sight of God.

It won't bring warm fuzzies and rainbows. And it won't be like you're barefoot in a field full of lavender flowers.

It shakes up everything you thought you knew.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71503346


That new age stuff is bullcrap.

It didnt hit me till I got baptized that I in myself can literally do nothing to earn my way to heaven.. I've acted like crap most of my life, and it is literally ONLY THE GRACE OF GOD that will save us, that and Jesus.

If I remember what Jesus did to cover our sins then I need not doubt anymore.

That hippy happy sunshine stuff is deception.

You have to be honest about who you are. And it's scary to realize that.
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Yes, that's exactly what Nisargadatta is saying.
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Ever see a baby realize that it has hands and feet?

All our lives we realize who we are. I think some new age crazies come up with all kinds of silly things, and call it "self-realization."

If you want to know what actual self realization is, it's realizing who you really are in the sight of God.

It won't bring warm fuzzies and rainbows. And it won't be like you're barefoot in a field full of lavender flowers.

It shakes up everything you thought you knew.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71503346


That new age stuff is bullcrap.

It didnt hit me till I got baptized that I in myself can literally do nothing to earn my way to heaven.. I've acted like crap most of my life, and it is literally ONLY THE GRACE OF GOD that will save us, that and Jesus.

If I remember what Jesus did to cover our sins then I need not doubt anymore.

That hippy happy sunshine stuff is deception.

You have to be honest about who you are. And it's scary to realize that.
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Unless you make tremendous efforts, you will not be convinced that effort will take you nowhere. The self is so self-confident that unless it is totally discouraged it will not give up. Mere verbal conviction is not enough. Hard facts alone can show the absolute nothingness of the self-image. - Nisargadatta
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What is God?

The Source of Consciousness.
Turn to God, stop worshiping elements.
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How to do that, here:
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Everything begins and ends with consciousness, hence only consciousness actually matters.
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I was self realized!

I learned I had to do everything by myself!
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Ever see a baby realize that it has hands and feet?

All our lives we realize who we are. I think some new age crazies come up with all kinds of silly things, and call it "self-realization."

If you want to know what actual self realization is, it's realizing who you really are in the sight of God.

It won't bring warm fuzzies and rainbows. And it won't be like you're barefoot in a field full of lavender flowers.

It shakes up everything you thought you knew.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71503346


That new age stuff is bullcrap.

It didnt hit me till I got baptized that I in myself can literally do nothing to earn my way to heaven.. I've acted like crap most of my life, and it is literally ONLY THE GRACE OF GOD that will save us, that and Jesus.

If I remember what Jesus did to cover our sins then I need not doubt anymore.

That hippy happy sunshine stuff is deception.

You have to be honest about who you are. And it's scary to realize that.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 69972762


Ever see a baby realize that it has hands and feet?

All our lives we realize who we are. I think some new age crazies come up with all kinds of silly things, and call it "self-realization."

If you want to know what actual self realization is, it's realizing who you really are in the sight of God.

It won't bring warm fuzzies and rainbows. And it won't be like you're barefoot in a field full of lavender flowers.

It shakes up everything you thought you knew.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 71503346


That new age stuff is bullcrap.

It didnt hit me till I got baptized that I in myself can literally do nothing to earn my way to heaven.. I've acted like crap most of my life, and it is literally ONLY THE GRACE OF GOD that will save us, that and Jesus.

If I remember what Jesus did to cover our sins then I need not doubt anymore.

That hippy happy sunshine stuff is deception.

You have to be honest about who you are. And it's scary to realize that.
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Even if Jesus came from the future to bring humanity out of the darkness, that would make him a hero not a god. And there is no evidence he died to save us from sin.





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