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Pit Bull Saves Baby !

 
Anonymous Coward
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06/11/2018 03:01 AM
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BTW... it wasn't always this bad.. just two generations back Germans used to be dog experts, all dogs were trained well and thus behaved well.. when I was a kid my immediate neighborhood was full of Dobermann, German Shepards and Rottweilers.. almost everyone had one..

Now those "big three" are almost extinkt.. even here in Germany, one of the biggest dog-loving countries in the world.. maybe because of the anti-authorian hippies LOL, just joking.. but matter of fact.. while I was never attacked by any big dogs while my grandparents generation was still around, now I have to walk in the forrest with a walking stick to fend off hysterical rat-sized or knee-high dogs.. no joke.. they are often mentally disturbed and and think they are godzlla's.. way more stressful then a regular german shepard.. when I was a kid I played with german shepards.. now I am suprised they got such a bad repuation.. they are actually very stable and friendly.. unlike the freaky Spitz-dog my grandma had..

Dogs also need "a job" more desperately than humans.. nothing makes a dog more miserable then not being busy.. That's why I used to have a cat.. they are closer to my own tmper.. lol
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06/11/2018 03:11 AM
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The breed is a problem. This pit, if you believe the story, can go psycho the next minute and attack and kill another person or pet.

They cant be trusted and they should be banned everywhere.

You will nevet convince intelligent peopld that pit bulls are gentle and not inherently vicious. So give it up!
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Actually you have adopted the "fundamentalist" point of view of blaming a race.. like the hate for the big white shark, it's rediculous to say the least..

We have a saying here in Europe.. if the wolf is around the forrest is healthy.. and that's simply true. Because the big carnevours strike a balance between between species and remove the weak, sick members in their prey.. take the wolf out of the forrest.. and you got a wild boar plague to name only one imbalance.. scientists found out that in reagions where the wolf is being shot dead.. the destoyed pack order forces the surviving wolfs closer to human habitat, thus in those regions wolf will attack sheep and other lifestock way more often.. because hunger and inabilty to hunt in packs drives them to seek alternatives to survive..

In a healthy forest you will never see a wolf actually.. humans domesticated wolfs and this is how we got our "dogs".. now if our ancestors would have had such a rediculous mind set as you display.. we would never domesticated any animals.. we got BIGGER BRAINS that can overcome instictual fear.. make use of it more often please..
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06/11/2018 03:32 AM
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I see the haters are coming out in full force.
 Quoting: tiger1


I see you’re just looking for someone to agree with you and refusing to accept common fact.

Pit bulls are dangerous, and trying to compare them to a Shepard or Lab, shows how ignorant you are.
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06/11/2018 03:34 AM
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I see the haters are coming out in full force.
 Quoting: tiger1


I see you’re just looking for someone to agree with you and refusing to accept common fact.

Pit bulls are dangerous, and trying to compare them to a Shepard or Lab, shows how ignorant you are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5431117


Actually I should have said, trying to say Labs and Shephards are more dangerous than a pit, is ignorance grandeur.
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06/11/2018 03:37 AM
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Here is a pic of my Staffordshire Bull Terrier, Sheba, when she was 10 months old. She is now 15 and has never shown aggression to anyone or anything. She is my old girl, the sweetest dog I have ever owned.She is the smaller white and brown dog on the left.
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That's not a staffy
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06/11/2018 03:44 AM
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Pitbullls the ar 15 of dogs same bullshit emotion driven arguments
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06/11/2018 03:46 AM
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And I own both
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06/11/2018 03:50 AM
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There were an iconic American breed. They used to be called nanny dogs.

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06/11/2018 03:52 AM
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I see the haters are coming out in full force.
 Quoting: tiger1


I see you’re just looking for someone to agree with you and refusing to accept common fact.

Pit bulls are dangerous, and trying to compare them to a Shepard or Lab, shows how ignorant you are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5431117


Yes Pitbulls are dangerous in the wrong hands.. that's for sure, but why only blame the dog race and not human incompetence?

The concept of dogs as entertainment for humans.. is fairly new.. a couple generations ago dogs weren't pets, they were bread to do specific jobs..

I agree with you that pitbulls don't make the best "pets" in the modern sense: entertainment.. or as companion for lonely humans.. as is often the case..

There are solutions to the problem

-Proof of the reliability of the dog owner (police certificate of good conduct)
-Proof of the dog owners ability (proof of competence (dogs))
-Compulsive muzzle and leash for the dogs in question in public
-Test of character for certain dog breeds

This is all implemented in Germany.. which makes it clear that dog owners are being held responsible.. and the dog owners are tested if they are capable of owning a dog like a pitbul.. no need to demonize the dogs, more human responsibilty and common sense and we wouldn't even be having such a rediculous conversation..

Pitbul are more an american/english dog.. so my first encounters I had in the USA.. sure I heard a lot of bad stuff about them and they did intimidate by their physical strengh.. strangely enough, me not being a dog person.. but a cat person.. all the pitbuls I encountered in USA were likable "softies"..

I even took care of a young pitbull for 3 weeks because it was neglected, left alone by it's owners.. then gave it to somebody that promised to take care of it.

I changed my mind during that time living in a place were a lot of surfers used to have pitbulls.. and never did I worry about being "killed any moment".. they simply are not "inherently evil" despite them once being bred for despicable "dog fights"..

The OP only said.. that the owners are the problem, not the dog itself.. and I agree with that statement as well.
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06/11/2018 03:54 AM
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They are still devil dogs and shouldn't be around children
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Stfu
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06/11/2018 03:57 AM
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I see the haters are coming out in full force.
 Quoting: tiger1


I see you’re just looking for someone to agree with you and refusing to accept common fact.

Pit bulls are dangerous, and trying to compare them to a Shepard or Lab, shows how ignorant you are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5431117


In the wrongs hands aye they're dangerous, if the person knows what they're doing with the breed and knows how to train/raise them with respect the bulls can be a credit to a family.
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06/11/2018 04:09 AM
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I see the haters are coming out in full force.
 Quoting: tiger1


I see you’re just looking for someone to agree with you and refusing to accept common fact.

Pit bulls are dangerous, and trying to compare them to a Shepard or Lab, shows how ignorant you are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5431117


In the wrongs hands aye they're dangerous, if the person knows what they're doing with the breed and knows how to train/raise them with respect the bulls can be a credit to a family.
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Thieves don't break into homes that are guarded by a well trained dog for example tounge

Even a small dog can perform this task.. if somebody sneaks around the house they will bark till all the neighbors are awake..lol!

There is even a direct correlation.. since dog ownership is declining the rise of burglaries in Germany is skyrocketing.
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06/11/2018 04:27 AM
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That dog was going to attack the baby most likely then became afraid of the fire.

If you have any understanding of dogs or genetics then you know pits are a problem. Makes no difference how you raise them.

If you raise a rattle snake to be nice are you going to let your children play with it? Same exact thing.
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06/11/2018 04:38 AM
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I grew up with pits and they were great dogs. We also had a dog that was half pit half bullmastiff and damn was that dog strong we rescued him off an alcoholic and no idea what he was at the time but he was a fierce and protective guard dog but the most clumsiest dozied goof ball. All our dogs were well raised, socialized and love and importantly respected. They are all passed now - each of them was mourned deeply as a family member.
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I see the haters are coming out in full force.
 Quoting: tiger1


I see you’re just looking for someone to agree with you and refusing to accept common fact.

Pit bulls are dangerous, and trying to compare them to a Shepard or Lab, shows how ignorant you are.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5431117


In the wrongs hands aye they're dangerous, if the person knows what they're doing with the breed and knows how to train/raise them with respect the bulls can be a credit to a family.
 Quoting: Anderson_G


Thieves don't break into homes that are guarded by a well trained dog for example tounge

Even a small dog can perform this task.. if somebody sneaks around the house they will bark till all the neighbors are awake..lol!

There is even a direct correlation.. since dog ownership is declining the rise of burglaries in Germany is skyrocketing.
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An interesting correlation there with the Burglaries
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That dog was going to attack the baby most likely then became afraid of the fire.

If you have any understanding of dogs or genetics then you know pits are a problem. Makes no difference how you raise them.

If you raise a rattle snake to be nice are you going to let your children play with it? Same exact thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24341761


A rattlesnake isn't a dog.

Do you know how retarded the first part of your statement sounds ?
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06/11/2018 06:18 AM
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The dog just doesn't like cooked meat.
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06/11/2018 06:31 AM
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An 8 month Pit Bull puppy ran into a house to save a baby from a fire. It is not the breed that is a problem, it is the way you treat your dog. Raise your dog like they are family, and they will be family !

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100% Agree! Well F***ing said!!
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That dog was going to attack the baby most likely then became afraid of the fire.

If you have any understanding of dogs or genetics then you know pits are a problem. Makes no difference how you raise them.

If you raise a rattle snake to be nice are you going to let your children play with it? Same exact thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24341761


A rattlesnake isn't a dog.

Do you know how retarded the first part of your statement sounds ?
 Quoting: Anderson_G


hesright
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They dont have a conscience like we do.
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what about people without conscience?
Put them down?
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An 8 month Pit Bull puppy ran into a house to save a baby from a fire. It is not the breed that is a problem, it is the way you treat your dog. Raise your dog like they are family, and they will be family !

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 Quoting: tiger1


ok, and kill the rest?

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I see the haters are coming out in full force.
 Quoting: tiger1


To the children killed by this breed, YOU are the hater.
You are the one booby-trapping their environment.

They can't even be warned because you place their welfare lower than the booby-trap.
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My huge 'vicious' pitbull/dogo X was attacked and savaged by a daschound recently, he had to run away crying like a baby to save his snout from another puncturing. Never mind the pitbulls, look out for the sausage dog !
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An 8 month Pit Bull puppy ran into a house to save a baby from a fire. It is not the breed that is a problem, it is the way you treat your dog. Raise your dog like they are family, and they will be family !

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 Quoting: tiger1


Dem baby was pit bull takeout
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Lol, nobody in their right mind would let their baby near a devil dog. He was probably looking for BBQ baby and accidentally saved the kid.

Hate those dogs. There are a few okay ones but I’ll stick to be statement that they can’t be trusted. You should need a liciense for one at the very least.
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An 8 month Pit Bull puppy ran into a house to save a baby from a fire. It is not the breed that is a problem, it is the way you treat your dog. Raise your dog like they are family, and they will be family !

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 Quoting: tiger1


It is how you socialize the dog....if you treat him like the alpha male of the pack he is going to become the alpha male....socialize him to be the beta and he will give his life to protect the others in his pack.
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Say what you will... when my children were little, we chose a dog that if it attacked them, would do less than fatal damage.
When my son was 6 and I took him hunting for the first time, I bought him a .410 shotgun, and loaded it with the weakest bird shot available. Just in case he accidentally shot me, or shot himself during his learning phase, the damage would be as minimal as possible.

The point is, if you have a family... why risk it? They might be good dogs, they might be aggressive killers, so why risk it?
You can't get homeowners insurance if you have one, and report it to your insurance company. So again, why risk it.
What reward do you get with a Pit Bull that you don't get with other dogs?
The outcome is not preordained.
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I see the haters are coming out in full force.
 Quoting: tiger1


Always when pits are brought up. Its funny the ol chap talking about devil dogs. All four of mine are registered "red devil" its the only ones I trust. Red devil is a reference to the eye color they make at night when you shine a flashlight in their eyes, their eyes glow red. All my dogs are purple ribbon dogs that ive payed a good deal of money for. I love my dogs, but you probably don't want to wander around at night in the woods where I live, my dogs are protective.chuckle
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Need to be careful with that, a pack of coyotes will kill your dogs if they are drawn in. Around here it's not uncommon to have packs of 15-20 yotes, no dog would stand a chance.
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We have Coyotes here too, in the city. We are between 2 bike trails and 4 blocks from a Forest Preserve.You got to watch your small dogs and cats. FYI, we have Deer run through here once in a while too.

Last Edited by tiger1 on 06/11/2018 09:29 AM
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tiger1  (OP)

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Great post!
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