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Message Subject Friendly discussion and thought exercise to religious people
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Ok. But may I ask what is in your answer that is different from what others who you see as leaning on easy, ready to go answers? Is there anything in your answer that is no less pre-digested, as it were?

You equate reality with the scientifically known reality. But is this reliable? Yes, we know much more than a thousand years ago, but we also know much more than a thousand months ago, or even a thousand weeks ago. So did your reality change along with it? Is it too hard for you to accept that that which you call reality is ever-changing and therefore cannot be reliably said to be reality at all?

In short, what is it that you can reliably know to be true if all else is a lie?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11375876


My appologies!
I understand your question as in a more philosophical way. This could extend to the "egocentric predicament". This could go VERY long and deep, so I would rather talk about it in a more physical manner.

I consider things using a logical and/or scientific approach. To me, "real" is that I have evidence for.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


Ok, if you take as real that which you have evidence for, if your evidence changes, does reality change with it?

I am using both a logical and scientific approach, which is why I stated at the start that once you stripped away all the lies of religion in your thought experiment, all that was left was what remained untouched by those lies, the fact of your own existence, I am.

Perhaps that is related to your "egocentric predicament."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11375876


Just to clarify, the egocentric predicament, is a psychological/phylosophical study. It deals on the possibility that the whole universe is nothing than a manifestation of my brain, meaning that there is nothing else, except me and my thoughts. It goes way beyond that, but just to summarize.

If evidence changes, then the understanding of reality might change, not the reality itself. Its like discovering a new talent. Suppose someday you find out you're a very good mason(as in laying bricks and making brick walls). Does that change who you are? It might change your behavior and future endeavors, but it will not change you as a whole.
 Quoting: MaybeTrollingU


What you are describing sounds like a cousin to solipsism, the idea that all you can know for certain is your mind.

All of my behavior, just as with all of my thoughts, feelings, or perceptions, are things about me, just as yours are things about you. But who is having these experiences? What doesn't change even amid the continual flux of thoughts, feelings, or perceptions? Is that not reality?
 
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