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Friendly discussion and thought exercise to religious people
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My appologies! I understand your question as in a more philosophical way. This could extend to the "egocentric predicament". This could go VERY long and deep, so I would rather talk about it in a more physical manner.
I consider things using a logical and/or scientific approach. To me, "real" is that I have evidence for.
Quoting: MaybeTrollingU Ok, if you take as real that which you have evidence for, if your evidence changes, does reality change with it? I am using both a logical and scientific approach, which is why I stated at the start that once you stripped away all the lies of religion in your thought experiment, all that was left was what remained untouched by those lies, the fact of your own existence, I am. Perhaps that is related to your "egocentric predicament." Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11375876 Just to clarify, the egocentric predicament, is a psychological/phylosophical study. It deals on the possibility that the whole universe is nothing than a manifestation of my brain, meaning that there is nothing else, except me and my thoughts. It goes way beyond that, but just to summarize. If evidence changes, then the understanding of reality might change, not the reality itself. Its like discovering a new talent. Suppose someday you find out you're a very good mason(as in laying bricks and making brick walls). Does that change who you are? It might change your behavior and future endeavors, but it will not change you as a whole. Quoting: MaybeTrollingU What you are describing sounds like a cousin to solipsism, the idea that all you can know for certain is your mind. All of my behavior, just as with all of my thoughts, feelings, or perceptions, are things about me, just as yours are things about you. But who is having these experiences? What doesn't change even amid the continual flux of thoughts, feelings, or perceptions? Is that not reality? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11375876 Egocentric predicament is a modern envision of solipsism. According to it, as far as we know, we can be a brain floating in a jar, or something else, thinking to be a brain, thinking to be in a universe, thinking to be a brain in a jar... One can go insane on that line of thought. But then again, we gotta have at least one common ground. Until proven otherwise, this is our universe, this is our life and reality is what we experience.
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