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(OP) User ID: 75358302 Brazil 06/27/2018 08:19 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its a thought exercise, an abstraction exercise. If you can, imagine that all you know about your specific religion is a lie. Like all the religions along history that arise, faded and die, think that your religion is also a lie. What would you do? Quoting: MaybeTrollingU - If you can't do it and go with the path "It can't be" or "I just can't cope with such an idea", don't bother posting. - Don't quote the bible, its pointless for the exercise, if you can't do it, you fall under the category above, of people incapable of abstract thinking Fuck religion(control system) There is but a greater being/source/creator. Abd we are all a piece of it. Thanks for your answer! |
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(OP) User ID: 75358302 Brazil 06/27/2018 08:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its a thought exercise, an abstraction exercise. If you can, imagine that all you know about your specific religion is a lie. Like all the religions along history that arise, faded and die, think that your religion is also a lie. What would you do? Quoting: MaybeTrollingU - If you can't do it and go with the path "It can't be" or "I just can't cope with such an idea", don't bother posting. - Don't quote the bible, its pointless for the exercise, if you can't do it, you fall under the category above, of people incapable of abstract thinking You do realize that there are 2.2 billion Christians. The cumulative length of time that the Judeo-Christian religion is possibly as old as when humans first began agricuture so 10,000 years old. During that time, lots of religions died out, but Christianity did not. So you want us to suppose it will become extinct, yet it is not, and not use Scriptures. So our hands are tied behind our back, then you are free to say whatever you want. What a troll tread, and actually it exposes your intentions and total inabilty to defend atheism. There is contest or debate. It's just trolling. How weak. Thanks for your answer! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76714773 United Kingdom 06/27/2018 08:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am not trying to convert you atheists. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72341210 I am trying to help you communicate intelligently and due to free will, explore what you believe. When you weakly say the things that uneducated people say about atheism, then you look very ignorant. I know you do not want that. You want to express yourself well and present yourself well. I am presuming that since you atheists spend more time talking about YHWH than Christians that you wish to communicate accurately and precisely. Still don't get it do you.. .. How do one explain to those who are not God children about anything holy?. Do you understand what dogs is?, they are mixed race.. .. And if you think our Lord Jesus being a racist then you know nothing about the zionist vatican covering up the truth of GOD. How else can one get through the evil power that be to printed in the Bible for the world to read the beginning and truth of God?. This is why you do not give anything Holy to mixed race and neither cast ye pearls before zionist and it vatican swines.. Even to this day, we use the term “hermetic” in the sense of “secret”; “sealed so that nothing can escape”; etc, and this by reason of the fact that the followers of Hermes always observed the principle of secrecy in their teachings. They did not believe in “casting pearls before swine,” but rather held to the teaching “milk for babes; meat for strong men,” both of which maxims are familiar to readers of the Christian scriptures, but both of which had been used by the Egyptians for centuries before the Christian era. - Hermetic Teachings Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not cast your pearls before swine, lest perhaps they may trample them under their feet, and then, turning, they may tear you apart. - Jesus in Matthew 7:6 |
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(OP) User ID: 75358302 Brazil 06/27/2018 08:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its a thought exercise, an abstraction exercise. If you can, imagine that all you know about your specific religion is a lie. Like all the religions along history that arise, faded and die, think that your religion is also a lie. What would you do? Quoting: MaybeTrollingU - If you can't do it and go with the path "It can't be" or "I just can't cope with such an idea", don't bother posting. - Don't quote the bible, its pointless for the exercise, if you can't do it, you fall under the category above, of people incapable of abstract thinking Oh geee another Atheist that believes everything of the natural world, including the Universe and all that's in it just happened by chance. So Atheist stop acting as if you're some intellectual giant because your not. Math nor physics backs your BS ideas of the natural world coming in to being without a intelligent designer. I thought the premises of the proposal were very simple. At no point "atheism", "natural universe" nor nothing like that was even remotely mentioned. But anyways, thank you for your answer! |
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(OP) User ID: 75358302 Brazil 06/27/2018 08:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its a thought exercise, an abstraction exercise. If you can, imagine that all you know about your specific religion is a lie. Like all the religions along history that arise, faded and die, think that your religion is also a lie. What would you do? Quoting: MaybeTrollingU - If you can't do it and go with the path "It can't be" or "I just can't cope with such an idea", don't bother posting. - Don't quote the bible, its pointless for the exercise, if you can't do it, you fall under the category above, of people incapable of abstract thinking You do realize that there are 2.2 billion Christians. The cumulative length of time that the Judeo-Christian religion is possibly as old as when humans first began agricuture so 10,000 years old. During that time, lots of religions died out, but Christianity did not. So you want us to suppose it will become extinct, yet it is not, and not use Scriptures. So our hands are tied behind our back, then you are free to say whatever you want. What a troll tread, and actually it exposes your intentions and total inabilty to defend atheism. There is contest or debate. It's just trolling. How weak. I'm sorry but this argumentation is completely fallacious. Its called "argumentum ad populum". And if your faith is truthful, you shouldn't need anything else but your reasoning to justify it. In case contrary, its another fallacy called "argument for authority" |
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(OP) User ID: 75358302 Brazil 06/27/2018 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is a strange question but from my experience of my beliefs. We’re more than just flesh and blood there’s a spiritual element to each of us that will be filled. If you don’t believe this fact then why do all tribes worship a being or God’? It’s part of us OP Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15318670 Thanks for your answer! But I don't think its justifiable to do something just because "we always did that". |
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(OP) User ID: 75358302 Brazil 06/27/2018 08:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Turns out, somebody is giving red karma to people and signing with my user name... shame! Nasty trick and horrible dishonesty |
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(OP) User ID: 75358302 Brazil 06/27/2018 08:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why blindly follow something that was written by a man with no evidence of their claims? Quoting: Anderson_G Why blindly follow atheism? Don't you get that? And atheism is half-baked. Let's say you disbelieve in marriage. Okay, then what DO you believe? This is the main problem with atheism. You disbelieve in GOD. Okay, what DO you believe? Basing a whole life om disbelief is nonsense. Do you find it logical to get angry about an imaginary being? That is your claim, correct? Do you spend hours on being angry at Osirus? It's supremely weird that people claiming religion is phony then want to talk exclusively about religion! WTF. Your premises are very weak. It implies that one MUST believe ins something and if one doesn't believe what you believe than its wrong. |
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(OP) User ID: 75358302 Brazil 06/27/2018 08:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mistake then? You ARE capable of answering? Then just do it, its quite simple! Quoting: MaybeTrollingU I suspect you may be trolling xD Right? Religion is useless, as is your discussion, there is obviously a Higher Being, call it whatever you want. If you are unable to see the hand of The Artist on everything arround you, then you are just a very ignorant (probably too young to know better) person. I'm not trolling in this one. And "there is obviously a higher being, is a claim not supported by evidence. |
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(OP) User ID: 75358302 Brazil 06/27/2018 08:34 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah OP I tried it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 44766950 Took about one second to realize that my religion is not a simple philosophy, or an edict from a book or a religious leader. My religion is the culmination of a quest. A quest that included studying numerous documents, observing the world, people, and seeking the truth. It has been very rewarding and helpful in enjoying life. Thanks for the exercise. And thank you for you answer! |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72341210 United States 06/27/2018 08:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Its a thought exercise, an abstraction exercise. If you can, imagine that all you know about your specific religion is a lie. Like all the religions along history that arise, faded and die, think that your religion is also a lie. What would you do? Quoting: MaybeTrollingU - If you can't do it and go with the path "It can't be" or "I just can't cope with such an idea", don't bother posting. - Don't quote the bible, its pointless for the exercise, if you can't do it, you fall under the category above, of people incapable of abstract thinking You do realize that there are 2.2 billion Christians. The cumulative length of time that the Judeo-Christian religion is possibly as old as when humans first began agricuture so 10,000 years old. During that time, lots of religions died out, but Christianity did not. So you want us to suppose it will become extinct, yet it is not, and not use Scriptures. So our hands are tied behind our back, then you are free to say whatever you want. What a troll tread, and actually it exposes your intentions and total inabilty to defend atheism. There is contest or debate. It's just trolling. How weak. I'm sorry but this argumentation is completely fallacious. Its called "argumentum ad populum". And if your faith is truthful, you shouldn't need anything else but your reasoning to justify it. In case contrary, its another fallacy called "argument for authority" Nope. If I claimed that since 2.2 billion believe it, it must be true, then you would be correct. I did not make that claim. I am calling your experiment a total abortion as this late in the exercise crazy claims are being made like a lack of belief. You are intellectually dishonest as this is in no way a valid discussion on an even footing. |
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(OP) User ID: 75358302 Brazil 06/27/2018 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ascanius: Some green to counter the faker using my name. MaybeTrollingU Check your karma |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72341210 United States 06/27/2018 08:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why blindly follow something that was written by a man with no evidence of their claims? Quoting: Anderson_G Why blindly follow atheism? Don't you get that? And atheism is half-baked. Let's say you disbelieve in marriage. Okay, then what DO you believe? This is the main problem with atheism. You disbelieve in GOD. Okay, what DO you believe? Basing a whole life om disbelief is nonsense. Do you find it logical to get angry about an imaginary being? That is your claim, correct? Do you spend hours on being angry at Osirus? It's supremely weird that people claiming religion is phony then want to talk exclusively about religion! WTF. Your premises are very weak. It implies that one MUST believe ins something and if one doesn't believe what you believe than its wrong. My gosh have you ever taken philosophy? I made no such claim. In philosohy there is: 1. Belief 2. Disbelief 3. I don't know 4. I don't care Just to have a discussion, you generally have to state one of the first three. |
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(OP) User ID: 75358302 Brazil 06/27/2018 08:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Why blindly follow something that was written by a man with no evidence of their claims? Quoting: Anderson_G Why blindly follow atheism? Don't you get that? And atheism is half-baked. Let's say you disbelieve in marriage. Okay, then what DO you believe? This is the main problem with atheism. You disbelieve in GOD. Okay, what DO you believe? Basing a whole life om disbelief is nonsense. Do you find it logical to get angry about an imaginary being? That is your claim, correct? Do you spend hours on being angry at Osirus? It's supremely weird that people claiming religion is phony then want to talk exclusively about religion! WTF. Your premises are very weak. It implies that one MUST believe ins something and if one doesn't believe what you believe than its wrong. My gosh have you ever taken philosophy? I made no such claim. In philosohy there is: 1. Belief 2. Disbelief 3. I don't know 4. I don't care Just to have a discussion, you generally have to state one of the first three. I didn't, but I know how it works. Your claim was: You disbelieve in GOD. Okay, what DO you believe? It implies that belief is mandatory, which is not the case. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 72341210 United States 06/27/2018 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Then you make a totally weird intellectual exercise that no teacher of philosophy would ever allow as it's so biased. Then you make weird comments as if grading responses when you yourself make errors in claims. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76714773 United Kingdom 06/27/2018 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Is Christianity dying in the UK? Perhaps but there is no net loss. And as Christians stop going to an Anglican state run parish in England, they start going to a mosque! Congratulations atheists. You made things worse because muslims thrown atheists off rooftops and chop off their heads. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72341210 Your atheist daughters will muslim men in England. What did you accomplish? This is why Jesus mention the salts of the earth will lose it savour (soul). Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. - Matthew 5:13 Our leaders are unfaithful, they had been doing the unrighteous way of Satan works for Tptb Zionist and it Vatican Cabal. They pretend to do miracles for the world which is the very opposite by cutting off more cords connecting to God source. Kings are leaders and Children of God are those with cords (souls) connecting to God source: "God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee." - Acts 13:33 "Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing? The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying, Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us. He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision. Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure. Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion. I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee. Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession. Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel. Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth. Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling. Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him." - Psalm 2:1-12 Lord Jesus is the greatest and last Antichrist with a sword and rod of iron who shall smashed mankind with a rod of iron like a vessel potters.. "Woe to you that are deep of heart, to hide their counsel from the Lord: their works are in the dark, and they say, 'Who seeth us? And, Who knows us?' This thought of yours is perverse: as if the clay should think against the potter, and the work say of him that made it, He made me, and the thing formed say to his maker: 'You do not understand.'" - Isaiah 29:15-16 Here the explaination what potter mean: "Woe to you that are deep of heart, to hide their counsel from the Lord: their works are in the dark, and they say, 'Who seeth us? And, Who knows us?' This thought of yours is perverse: as if the clay should think against the potter, and the work say of him that made it, He made me, and the thing formed say to his maker: 'You do not understand.'" - Isaiah 29:15-16 Maker are Creator beings the like of Allah who is in charge of those mankind without cords connecting to God source. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76714773 United Kingdom 06/27/2018 08:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "Woe to you that are deep of heart, to hide their counsel from the Lord: their works are in the dark, and they say, 'Who seeth us? And, Who knows us?' Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76714773 This thought of yours is perverse: as if the clay should think against the potter, and the work say of him that made it, He made me, and the thing formed say to his maker: 'You do not understand.'" - Isaiah 29:15-16 Here the explaination what potter mean: This thought of yours is perverse: as if the clay should think against the potter, and the work say of him that made it, He made me, and the thing formed say to his maker: 'You do not understand.'" - Isaiah 29:15-16 "And whereas thou sawest the feet and toes, part of potter's clay, and part of iron, the kingdom shall be divided; but still, from the slip of iron in it, even as you saw the iron mixed with the miry clay. And as the toes of the feet were part of iron, and part of clay, so the kingdom shall be partly strong, and partly broken. And whereas thou sawest the iron mixed with miry clay, they shall be mingled indeed together with the seed of men; but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay." - Daniel 2:41-43 Vulgate Bible Maker are Creator beings the like of Allah who is in charge of those mankind without cords connecting to God source. Fixed. Your leaders are unfaithful, the associates of thieves. They all love gifts; they pursue rewards. - Isaiah 1:23 |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 76714773 United Kingdom 06/27/2018 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is so bizarre. You are trying to moderate as if you have some authority. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72341210 Then you make a totally weird intellectual exercise that no teacher of philosophy would ever allow as it's so biased. Then you make weird comments as if grading responses when you yourself make errors in claims. I will say it again, OP do not have a soul connecting to God source. South America is mostly the same as Middle East soulless mankind. Truth hurt. |
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(OP) User ID: 75358302 Brazil 06/27/2018 08:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is so bizarre. You are trying to moderate as if you have some authority. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72341210 Then you make a totally weird intellectual exercise that no teacher of philosophy would ever allow as it's so biased. Then you make weird comments as if grading responses when you yourself make errors in claims. I disagree on it being biased. On the contrary, I'm asking for an answer detached of all religious bias. And I do moderate things that go against the purpose of the exercise. |
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(OP) User ID: 75358302 Brazil 06/27/2018 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is so bizarre. You are trying to moderate as if you have some authority. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72341210 Then you make a totally weird intellectual exercise that no teacher of philosophy would ever allow as it's so biased. Then you make weird comments as if grading responses when you yourself make errors in claims. I will say it again, OP do not have a soul connecting to God source. South America is mostly the same as Middle East soulless mankind. Truth hurt. So the truth for you is: Believe what I believe, otherwise you're wrong, soulless(whatever it means). |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76714773 United Kingdom 06/27/2018 08:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is so bizarre. You are trying to moderate as if you have some authority. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72341210 Then you make a totally weird intellectual exercise that no teacher of philosophy would ever allow as it's so biased. Then you make weird comments as if grading responses when you yourself make errors in claims. I disagree on it being biased. On the contrary, I'm asking for an answer detached of all religious bias. And I do moderate things that go against the purpose of the exercise. Check again, just to make sure if you do have a cord connecting to God source. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 76714773 United Kingdom 06/27/2018 09:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This is so bizarre. You are trying to moderate as if you have some authority. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 72341210 Then you make a totally weird intellectual exercise that no teacher of philosophy would ever allow as it's so biased. Then you make weird comments as if grading responses when you yourself make errors in claims. I will say it again, OP do not have a soul connecting to God source. South America is mostly the same as Middle East soulless mankind. Truth hurt. So the truth for you is: Believe what I believe, otherwise you're wrong, soulless(whatever it means). That right, also known as backdrop people and they cannot percieve nor understand anything holy. They was born neutral without a soul, they do not have any experience the like of those with old souls. The positive one abide with Creator being instead of creatures. The negative one followed the evil of other negative souls. What is then, a backdrop person? A backdrop person is best described to a human not really what it is but what it is not. A backdrop person is not a Source expressed individual life form with a direct Source connection. Now of course it is within Source creation, and all things are from Source but it is not a direct creation. You have a direct connection. A backdrop person does not. Who or what created backdrop people? They were created by Creator beings as something like empty suits. They have a physicality just like you and all true human beings, but their connection to Source is offline. Why were they created? The simple answer is that they were an experiment. The Creator beings were curious about the concept and idea. And they were very easy to create and then to manipulate both for positive reasons and not so positive reasons. Do they have a soul? They do not have a soul as you have a soul, but again this is a simplistic answer. They are animated on the “outside“ of their beings, very often by you and other soul expressions. Do they feel and think like we who are not backdrop people feel and think? Not exactly the same. But they can feel and think. Yes. [link to newearthjourneyjournal.com] "Outside are dogs and drug users, murderers, and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood. I Jesus sent mine angel to testify to these parts. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning star." - Revelation 22:15-16 Vulgate Bible from Latin "and to the law and to the testimony. But if they do not speak according to this word, because there is no light in them." - Isaiah 8:20 No light = no soul. Mixed race the like Bob Marley, Hendrix and Obama do not have a soul neither.. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 11375876 United States 06/27/2018 09:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mistake then? You ARE capable of answering? Then just do it, its quite simple! Quoting: MaybeTrollingU I suspect you may be trolling xD Right? Religion is useless, as is your discussion, there is obviously a Higher Being, call it whatever you want. If you are unable to see the hand of The Artist on everything arround you, then you are just a very ignorant (probably too young to know better) person. I'm not trolling in this one. And "there is obviously a higher being, is a claim not supported by evidence. On what basis do you make this claim, op? I ask because it is taken as an article of faith by atheists and agnostics as if it were a given. But when you try to establish what would constitute evidence, there is no clear answer. It is difficult to judge what is true or false when there isn't even an agreement on the measuring stick in use. |
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(OP) User ID: 75358302 Brazil 06/27/2018 10:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My mistake then? You ARE capable of answering? Then just do it, its quite simple! Quoting: MaybeTrollingU I suspect you may be trolling xD Right? Religion is useless, as is your discussion, there is obviously a Higher Being, call it whatever you want. If you are unable to see the hand of The Artist on everything arround you, then you are just a very ignorant (probably too young to know better) person. I'm not trolling in this one. And "there is obviously a higher being, is a claim not supported by evidence. On what basis do you make this claim, op? I ask because it is taken as an article of faith by atheists and agnostics as if it were a given. But when you try to establish what would constitute evidence, there is no clear answer. It is difficult to judge what is true or false when there isn't even an agreement on the measuring stick in use. Atheism is exactly the opposite, its the lack of belief. And no, lack of belief is not the same as believing in something. Evidence is something the furnishes proof. Both these concepts, proof and evidence, are subject to logic, if it can be falsified by logic, is not evidence or proof. That's my take on the subject thou and definitive definitions may vary a little bit. But there is a consensus on what evidence and proof are NOT. Being subjected to scientific method must be applicable. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 11375876 United States 06/27/2018 10:54 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76692895 I suspect you may be trolling xD Right? Religion is useless, as is your discussion, there is obviously a Higher Being, call it whatever you want. If you are unable to see the hand of The Artist on everything arround you, then you are just a very ignorant (probably too young to know better) person. I'm not trolling in this one. And "there is obviously a higher being, is a claim not supported by evidence. On what basis do you make this claim, op? I ask because it is taken as an article of faith by atheists and agnostics as if it were a given. But when you try to establish what would constitute evidence, there is no clear answer. It is difficult to judge what is true or false when there isn't even an agreement on the measuring stick in use. Atheism is exactly the opposite, its the lack of belief. And no, lack of belief is not the same as believing in something. Evidence is something the furnishes proof. Both these concepts, proof and evidence, are subject to logic, if it can be falsified by logic, is not evidence or proof. That's my take on the subject thou and definitive definitions may vary a little bit. But there is a consensus on what evidence and proof are NOT. Being subjected to scientific method must be applicable. I mentioned this slippery slope of yours re evidence and positive claims last night, but you did not respond and then signed off for the night, so I will give you another crack at it. Thread: Friendly discussion and thought exercise to religious people (Page 9) This question of evidence comes up all the time because regardless of what evidence is put forth, it is rejected out of hand as not credible because of the strong, yet groundless and unquestioned BELIEF that there is no evidence. So it becomes a vicious circle of nah, nope, not that, not that either, isn't, hardly, etc. When asked why none of this is evidence, it just rolls back to the insistent yet unsupported belief that there is no evidence. And yet, as I stated in the linked post, along with this insistence of no evidence comes the strong claim that only materialism is true and that when we die that's the end, period. But neither claim has any evidence to support it. |