Friendly discussion and thought exercise to religious people

Thanks for your answer!

Thanks for your answer!

Still don't get it do you..

.. How do one explain to those who are not God children about anything holy?.

Do you understand what dogs is?, they are mixed race..

.. And if you think our Lord Jesus being a racist then you know nothing about the zionist vatican covering up the truth of GOD.

How else can one get through the evil power that be to printed in the Bible for the world to read the beginning and truth of God?.

This is why you do not give anything Holy to mixed race and neither cast ye pearls before zionist and it vatican swines..

Even to this day, we use the term “hermetic” in the sense of “secret”; “sealed so that nothing can escape”; etc, and this by reason of the fact that the followers of Hermes always observed the principle of secrecy in their teachings. They did not believe in “casting pearls before swine,” but rather held to the teaching “milk for babes; meat for strong men,” both of which maxims are familiar to readers of the Christian scriptures, but both of which had been used by the Egyptians for centuries before the Christian era. - Hermetic Teachings


Do not give what is holy to dogs, and do not cast your pearls before swine, lest perhaps they may trample them under their feet, and then, turning, they may tear you apart. - Jesus in Matthew 7:6

I thought the premises of the proposal were very simple. At no point "atheism", "natural universe" nor nothing like that was even remotely mentioned. But anyways, thank you for your answer!

Not sure exactly what this means or the relevance of it for the purpose of the thread

I'm sorry but this argumentation is completely fallacious. Its called "argumentum ad populum".

And if your faith is truthful, you shouldn't need anything else but your reasoning to justify it. In case contrary, its another fallacy called "argument for authority"

Thanks for your answer! But I don't think its justifiable to do something just because "we always did that".

Turns out, somebody is giving red karma to people and signing with my user name... shame! Nasty trick and horrible dishonesty

Your premises are very weak. It implies that one MUST believe ins something and if one doesn't believe what you believe than its wrong.

I'm not trolling in this one. And "there is obviously a higher being, is a claim not supported by evidence.

And thank you for you answer!

Nope. If I claimed that since 2.2 billion believe it, it must be true, then you would be correct.

I did not make that claim.

I am calling your experiment a total abortion as this late in the exercise crazy claims are being made like a lack of belief.

You are intellectually dishonest as this is in no way a valid discussion on an even footing.

Ascanius: Some green to counter the faker using my name. MaybeTrollingU

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My gosh have you ever taken philosophy?

I made no such claim.

In philosohy there is:
1. Belief
2. Disbelief
3. I don't know
4. I don't care

Just to have a discussion, you generally have to state one of the first three.

I didn't, but I know how it works. Your claim was: You disbelieve in GOD. Okay, what DO you believe?
It implies that belief is mandatory, which is not the case.

This is so bizarre. You are trying to moderate as if you have some authority.

Then you make a totally weird intellectual exercise that no teacher of philosophy would ever allow as it's so biased.

Then you make weird comments as if grading responses when you yourself make errors in claims.

This is why Jesus mention the salts of the earth will lose it savour (soul).

Ye are the salt of the earth: but if the salt have lost his savour, wherewith shall it be salted? it is thenceforth good for nothing, but to be cast out, and to be trodden under foot of men. - Matthew 5:13

Our leaders are unfaithful, they had been doing the unrighteous way of Satan works for Tptb Zionist and it Vatican Cabal. They pretend to do miracles for the world which is the very opposite by cutting off more cords connecting to God source.

Kings are leaders and Children of God are those with cords (souls) connecting to God source:

"God hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Jesus again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee." - Acts 13:33

"Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?

The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the Lord, and against his anointed, saying,

Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.

He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.

Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.

I will declare the decree: the Lord hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.

Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.

Thou shalt break them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces like a potter's vessel.

Be wise now therefore, O ye kings: be instructed, ye judges of the earth.

Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice with trembling.

Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way, when his wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him." - Psalm 2:1-12

Lord Jesus is the greatest and last Antichrist with a sword and rod of iron who shall smashed mankind with a rod of iron like a vessel potters..

"Woe to you that are deep of heart, to hide their counsel from the Lord: their works are in the dark, and they say, 'Who seeth us? And, Who knows us?'

This thought of yours is perverse: as if the clay should think against the potter, and the work say of him that made it, He made me, and the thing formed say to his maker: 'You do not understand.'" - Isaiah 29:15-16

Here the explaination what potter mean:

"Woe to you that are deep of heart, to hide their counsel from the Lord: their works are in the dark, and they say, 'Who seeth us? And, Who knows us?'

This thought of yours is perverse: as if the clay should think against the potter, and the work say of him that made it, He made me, and the thing formed say to his maker: 'You do not understand.'" - Isaiah 29:15-16

Maker are Creator beings the like of Allah who is in charge of those mankind without cords connecting to God source.

Fixed.

Your leaders are unfaithful, the associates of thieves. They all love gifts; they pursue rewards. - Isaiah 1:23

What audacity. A person lacking any semblance of decorum and no notion of philosophy pretends to grade our responses.

I will say it again, OP do not have a soul connecting to God source.

South America is mostly the same as Middle East soulless mankind.

Truth hurt.

I disagree on it being biased. On the contrary, I'm asking for an answer detached of all religious bias.

And I do moderate things that go against the purpose of the exercise.

Its very simple, just don't respond then.

So the truth for you is: Believe what I believe, otherwise you're wrong, soulless(whatever it means).

Check again, just to make sure if you do have a cord connecting to God source.

That right, also known as backdrop people and they cannot percieve nor understand anything holy.

They was born neutral without a soul, they do not have any experience the like of those with old souls. The positive one abide with Creator being instead of creatures. The negative one followed the evil of other negative souls.

What is then, a backdrop person?

A backdrop person is best described to a human not really what it is but what it is not. A backdrop person is not a Source expressed individual life form with a direct Source connection. Now of course it is within Source creation, and all things are from Source but it is not a direct creation. You have a direct connection. A backdrop person does not.

Who or what created backdrop people?

They were created by Creator beings as something like empty suits. They have a physicality just like you and all true human beings, but their connection to Source is offline.

Why were they created?

The simple answer is that they were an experiment. The Creator beings were curious about the concept and idea. And they were very easy to create and then to manipulate both for positive reasons and not so positive reasons.

Do they have a soul?

They do not have a soul as you have a soul, but again this is a simplistic answer. They are animated on the “outside“ of their beings, very often by you and other soul expressions.

Do they feel and think like we who are not backdrop people feel and think?

Not exactly the same. But they can feel and think. Yes.

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"Outside are dogs and drug users, murderers, and idolaters, and everyone who loves and practices falsehood.

I Jesus sent mine angel to testify to these parts. I am the root and the offspring of David, the bright morning star." - Revelation 22:15-16 Vulgate Bible from Latin

"and to the law and to the testimony. But if they do not speak according to this word, because there is no light in them." - Isaiah 8:20

No light = no soul.

Mixed race the like Bob Marley, Hendrix and Obama do not have a soul neither..

On what basis do you make this claim, op? I ask because it is taken as an article of faith by atheists and agnostics as if it were a given. But when you try to establish what would constitute evidence, there is no clear answer. It is difficult to judge what is true or false when there isn't even an agreement on the measuring stick in use.

Atheism is exactly the opposite, its the lack of belief. And no, lack of belief is not the same as believing in something. Evidence is something the furnishes proof. Both these concepts, proof and evidence, are subject to logic, if it can be falsified by logic, is not evidence or proof. That's my take on the subject thou and definitive definitions may vary a little bit. But there is a consensus on what evidence and proof are NOT. Being subjected to scientific method must be applicable.

There would be zero difference in my life.

Thanks for your answer!

I mentioned this slippery slope of yours re evidence and positive claims last night, but you did not respond and then signed off for the night, so I will give you another crack at it.

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This question of evidence comes up all the time because regardless of what evidence is put forth, it is rejected out of hand as not credible because of the strong, yet groundless and unquestioned BELIEF that there is no evidence. So it becomes a vicious circle of nah, nope, not that, not that either, isn't, hardly, etc. When asked why none of this is evidence, it just rolls back to the insistent yet unsupported belief that there is no evidence.

And yet, as I stated in the linked post, along with this insistence of no evidence comes the strong claim that only materialism is true and that when we die that's the end, period. But neither claim has any evidence to support it.