Question about ancient races of history/mythology/theology, help out!

Thanks for the bump!

Read the book of Enoch

You can even listen to it on YouTube

It’s a great day to learn something

Yes, I've listened to the book of Enoch, it's very interesting.

I heard there are two versions floating around... I hope I listened to the right one!

Thanks for sharing.

Last Edited by ILuvLearnin&Nrg on 07/13/2018 11:43 AM

Annunaki have relation to the Sumerian pantheon (younger deities), and have zero relation to the "nephilim" (who were entirely human, not fallen angels, nor hybrid beings of angels and humans, this is a gnostic false doctrine, see sitchiniswrong.com). "Titans" were the children of elder deities (protogenoi) and essentially older greek deities themselves, but not the oldest, their children were the later pantheon of deities, like the olympians. They may have been imaginary, spirits posing as if they were deities, or ancestors who were raised to divinity status by their peoples. "The gods" is too generic, do you mean any specific pantheon?

I have yet to run across "long walkers" it sounds Native American in origin.

Doesn't the Torah refer to the Nephilim as the offspring of the sons of gods/God and the daughters of men? I suppose though that the "sons of God" may mean mankind, and so may very well coincide with what you've shared.

Yes "gods" is generic, but I wanted to leave this relatively open-ended. Here's a little more context to my train of thought:

Long-walker is new to me as well. I believe it refers the very large/giant pale humanoids (think the Hollywood Prometheus film). But I did see a long-walker depicted with red hair.

I also recall an unrelated source refer to the original inhabitants of earth as being red-headed giants, but at the time didn't associate this with the giant pale humanoid archetype we see in films like Prometheus (and more recently The Titan).

I was hoping some of our peers might be able to elaborate on any connection between these characters. What you shared is relevant though, thank you!

The interpretation of genesis 6 (the one most usually cited for the hybrid stuff) is actually from the old babylonian talmud type interpretation, and later kabbalah, specifically the zohar, (bereshith 36b) from what I've found, and does not exist in the actual bible text itself, apparently, it being offered with various other interpretations, but due to the rabbi's pharisaic tendency to malinterpret verses (this is why you'll sometimes see them wearing little boxes with bits out of deuteronomy strapped to their arms, and foreheads, a misinterpretation of keeping God's words as frontlets between their eyes, etc.) and the corruption of gnosticism across many belief systems, this interpretation has become the dominant one (It is often paired with other aberrant gnostic ones such as saying that eve had sexual relations with the devil, used as a foundation for racism's supremacist false doctrines)

I would strongly caution to avoid the book of enoch by the way, the text itself was "discovered" by a freemason, james bruce, (A text in geez, by the way, from Ethiopia) and subsequently brought back by him, what happened to the text from there until some questionable translations were released by richard laurence & r. h. charles, is something I don't know as yet, but I would suspect the lodges might have tampered with it. (The translations asserting beings born to human women that are effectively 450 ft to two miles in height when full grown, is a bit ridiculous, as a human women couldn't hope to carry a fetal form of such a creature to term, much less consume enough food to be able to meet it's nutritional needs.)

The film you mention also has links back to the old occult as well, the aliens franchise comes from h. r. geiger in large part, who was subsequently inspired by h.p. lovecraft, who himself took inspiration from horror writer & occultist arthur lewellyn jones/"machen" who was also an acquaintance of arthur edward waite, responsible in part for the popular tarot card deck, and the hermetic order of the golden dawn secret society. The premise of it being a variant of the panspermia theory.

The "giant beings" thing is very prevalent across many cultures, as are other mythological elements, to a shocking degree, (Consider the "cardinal points" deities, the aztecs had them, as 4 giants, with a central being, China and Japan had them as the 4 divine beasts, genbu, suzaku, seiryuu and byakko, sometimes with a central being, and the ancient greeks had this about 3 times repeated as 4 titans/deities, hyperion, krios, koios and iapetos, taking down a 5th "evil" one, kronos) however, the secret society types will use these similarities to try to suggest they're all reflections of accurate events, while downplaying, except for where it can be useful to their deceptions, that this demonstrates that they stem from a similar origin.

As for friend, foe, or neutral, my understanding of cosmology has deities as one of three things generally: a spirit pretending to be a being of great power, (I am monotheistic, myself) and typically malevolent, a wholly fictional character which may or may not have been used to teach a given lesson, or a deified ancestor who was human, and could've been good, or bad, depending. The size of these can vary over time, which we see happen with types like Charlemagne, who is given some mythological attributes, based on some items, such as saying he was anywhere from 9-12 feet tall based solely on his bed frame. (Any suggestion that he just had a very opulent taste for a big bed, seems to be ignored.)

Glad to have been of assistance, and hopes this proves to be useful as well.

Pardon, not kronos, but ouranos/uranus was the one the 4 titans took down, afterwards, kronos took his place, but then had the same event happen to him via 4 deities who were helping zeus take his place, kratos, bia, nike, and zelos.

Haha a few one stars, thanks for the feedback. Those who've contributed to this thread, and myself, are honored!



Last Edited by ILuvLearnin&Nrg on 07/16/2018 01:23 PM

If you want God's perspective.

Interesting source, thanks for sharing.

Pity, OP was a troll looking for more gnostic propaganda, instead of actual research... at this point suggest OP check "sitchiniswrong.com", if OP even cares about research on the subject, which it would appear from behavior, OP does not.

No, definitely not a troll, not looking for propaganda, just looking to discern the truth, and willing and able to look at whatever information is available.

The source you mentioned was already shared, but your input is still appreciated, your insult however, not as much. No worries though as this is, unfortunately, to be expected in this community.

Just be aware that when presented in a such a way, your information is less likely to be favorably received, and consequently you work against your own mission!

Thanks for sharing though, I do intend to explore the link.

Last Edited by ILuvLearnin&Nrg on 07/16/2018 03:39 PM