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Lady Wolf
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You know...while I respect differing cultures and their rights to live lives their own way, I have to draw the line when human rights are violated! This really makes me upset! rant



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BAGHDAD, IRAQ (CNN) -- Authorities in northern Iraq have arrested four people in connection with the "honor killing" last month of a Kurdish teen -- a startling, morbid pummeling caught on a mobile phone video camera and broadcast around the world.

The case portrays the tragedy and brutality of honor killings in the Muslim world. Honor killings take place when family members kill relatives, almost always female, because they feel the relatives' actions have shamed the family.

In this case, Dua Khalil, a 17-year-old Kurdish girl whose religion is Yazidi, was dragged into a crowd in a headlock with police looking on and kicked, beaten and stoned to death last month. (Watch the attack, and what authorities are doing about it )

Authorities believe she was killed for being seen with a Sunni Muslim man. She had not married him or converted, but her attackers believed she had, a top official in Nineveh province said. The Yazidis, who observe an ancient Middle Eastern religion, look down on mixing with people of another faith.

Each year, dozens of honor killings are reported in Iraq and thousands are reported worldwide, said the United Nations. The practice has been condemned around the world by governments and human rights groups. A yearly vigil protesting honor killings is held in London, England.

Two of the four arrested are members of the victim's family, police in Nineveh province said Thursday. Four others, including a cousin thought to have instigated the killing, are being sought.

The killing is said to have spurred the killings of about two dozen Yazidi men by Sunni Muslims in the Mosul area two weeks later. Attackers affiliated with al Qaeda pulled 24 Yazidi men out of a bus and slaughtered them, a provincial official said.

The violence ratcheted up tensions between Yazids and Muslims in Bashiqa, the victim's hometown, a largely Yazidi city in Nineveh province.

Provincial officials don't think much could have been done to stop the honor killing, but at least three officers are being investigated and could be fired.

"The climate, the religious and social climate is such that people can do that in daylight and that authorities do not intervene," said the spokeswoman for the Organization of Womens' Freedom in Iraq, Houzan Mahmoud.

Also, the top police official in Bashiqa is being replaced.
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IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WILL TAKE THE NEXT YEAR TO HUNT THESE SCUM DOWN AND ELIMINATE THEM LIKE DOGS.
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The thing is, it is the brutality of the culture that needs to be changed. These people need to be made to understand that human rights are above cuture rights!
Real truth is self evident...
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What a waste of a life!!!
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So these people are being prosecuted for commiting a crime?

don't let Jarhar and PACWNguy find out!

They'll say it's leftist propaganda.

I wonder how many atrocities are commited in the United states that no one bothers to point out?

Didn't a fine young christian man recently microwave his own female child because God told him to.

I suppose there are those here who will argue that this was not barbaric, because he used modern technology.

He is a christian, and God told him to do it.
I recall that the bible is very specific about women being beneath men. Of lesser value.

There was a female child in Houston found to have been so severely beeten and tortured that the CPS said they'd never seen anything so horrible.
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The thing is, it is the brutality of the culture that needs to be changed. These people need to be made to understand that human rights are above cuture rights!
 Quoting: Lady Wolf




They worship death. Give it to them.

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evil fuckers
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Wow Lady Wolf I am with 150 Shias. They agree with you. They are sad. I still got radar love going so I am cool.
They want it to end. They seem sincere but only because I am here with them at the moment perhaps. Still I would like to believe them.
Cool to read you Lady Wolf.
Love x
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The thing is, it is the brutality of the culture that needs to be changed. These people need to be made to understand that human rights are above cuture rights!
 Quoting: Lady Wolf


I guess that means that any an all death sentences by governments world wide are also now out of the picture.
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There were millions of africans killed with machetes.
Did you(we)care about that?
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There were millions of africans killed with machetes.
Did you(we)care about that?
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We didn't know about it till later.

We weren't supposed to know.
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DAMN! She would've made a helluva mail order bride for some filthy rich scumbag from the US.
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So these people are being prosecuted for commiting a crime?

don't let Jarhar and PACWNguy find out!

They'll say it's leftist propaganda.

I wonder how many atrocities are commited in the United states that no one bothers to point out?

Didn't a fine young christian man recently microwave his own female child because God told him to.

I suppose there are those here who will argue that this was not barbaric, because he used modern technology.

He is a christian, and God told him to do it.
I recall that the bible is very specific about women being beneath men. Of lesser value.

There was a female child in Houston found to have been so severely beeten and tortured that the CPS said they'd never seen anything so horrible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238655


What does the left support??

The atrocities commited in the United states makes this okay in your view?

A person who is mental---yet you want to support his thought that he is a fine christian---makes you what--an idiot at best???
"fine young christian man recently microwave his own female child because God told him to"


"I recall that the bible is very specific about women being beneath men. Of lesser value."

I can see you have never read the Bible, let alone experienced the Truth. Repeating something you read from various sources doesn't change the Truth!

In the spirit there is neither male nor female. Sound familiar? Probably not to you because you probably have never read the Bible or allowed Jesus Christ to teach you about the Truth. Did you know there was a group of women in the Old Testament that appealled to God and God sided with them. God approved of their request. Ever hear of Deborah?
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238718, please re-read my post with a sarcastic voice.

It is the note of sarcasm that makes the post make sense.

Sorry, I should have clarified that from the start.
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So these people are being prosecuted for commiting a crime?

don't let Jarhar and PACWNguy find out!

They'll say it's leftist propaganda.

I wonder how many atrocities are commited in the United states that no one bothers to point out?

Didn't a fine young christian man recently microwave his own female child because God told him to.

I suppose there are those here who will argue that this was not barbaric, because he used modern technology.

He is a christian, and God told him to do it.
I recall that the bible is very specific about women being beneath men. Of lesser value.

There was a female child in Houston found to have been so severely beeten and tortured that the CPS said they'd never seen anything so horrible.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238655



True, atrocities are committed in all the world including the US and many times in the name of religion. But the difference is, in the US it’s fucking illegal and not condoned by the church or the government you stupid moron.
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The thing is, it is the brutality of the culture that needs to be changed. These people need to be made to understand that human rights are above cuture rights!




They worship death. Give it to them.

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 Quoting: PACNWguy



Wounded Knee. Hiroshima. Nagasaki. Mai Lai. Orange Agent. Falluja.


These people need to be made to understand that human rights are above cuture rights!



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the white man is the fucking devil
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So these people are being prosecuted for commiting a crime?

don't let Jarhar and PACWNguy find out!

They'll say it's leftist propaganda.

I wonder how many atrocities are commited in the United states that no one bothers to point out?

Didn't a fine young christian man recently microwave his own female child because God told him to.

I suppose there are those here who will argue that this was not barbaric, because he used modern technology.

He is a christian, and God told him to do it.
I recall that the bible is very specific about women being beneath men. Of lesser value.

There was a female child in Houston found to have been so severely beeten and tortured that the CPS said they'd never seen anything so horrible.



True, atrocities are committed in all the world including the US and many times in the name of religion. But the difference is, in the US it’s fucking illegal and not condoned by the church or the government you stupid moron.
 Quoting: PACNWguy


Hey! stupid moron! Reread the original post. The people who commited the crime are being prosecuted.

You fucking dildo. Grow a brain.

Imagine the chudspah! This brain-dead lemming responding to my post without knowinging what it said!

typical warmonger trogladyte!
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I hate to bring politics into this... but let's see how much the media latches onto this for the express purpose of sustaining our presence in Iraq. Maybe it was a government sponsored terrorist act.
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Hey! stupid moron! Reread the original post. The people who commited the crime are being prosecuted.

You fucking dildo. Grow a brain.

Imagine the chudspah! This brain-dead lemming responding to my post without knowinging what it said!

typical warmonger trogladyte!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238655


The only reason there are laws against it is because of world opinion of the savage practice. It is something that people there do regularly and their fucking clerics support them.

Their society condones honor killing. It is done all the damn time. Our society turns their backs on anyone who kills in the name of religion. Including people who bomb abortion clinics.

That is the difference asshole. Go ask your mom,,,she will splain it to you better.
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pEoPlE aRe ScUm nO mAtTeR WhErE tHeY aRe FrOm Or WhAT cOlOuR tHeY aRe.
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60206, Did you forget so quickly that Bush is on the record as having said that God told him to attack Iraq?

This is on video.

Chew on that awhile.

Then explain how it's ok that according to Bush God told him to start a war with Iraq that has killed over one million innocent Iraqi civilians, at the hands of American troops. Not to mention the horrible injuries of the living, the Depleted Uranium used and left there, and the rapes, pillaging and rampant destruction at the hands of the US military!

This does not take into account the deaths due to the now rampant sectarian violence.
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Wow Lady Wolf I am with 150 Shias. They agree with you. They are sad. I still got radar love going so I am cool.
They want it to end. They seem sincere but only because I am here with them at the moment perhaps. Still I would like to believe them.
Cool to read you Lady Wolf.
 Quoting: femto


Hello Femto,

You know these people who were involved in this?
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pEoPlE aRe ScUm nO mAtTeR WhErE tHeY aRe FrOm Or WhAT cOlOuR tHeY aRe.
 Quoting: ThE aGiTaToR 238743


Why don't you just generalise??

:laughman:
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The thing is, it is the brutality of the culture that needs to be changed. These people need to be made to understand that human rights are above cuture rights!


I guess that means that any an all death sentences by governments world wide are also now out of the picture.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 173374


while I am not an advocate for the death penalty, I do believe there are instances where it is not only needed, but justice would not be served without it. It should be done as humanely as possible, and I don't think that the exhaustion of the appeals process should be mandatory. It should be up to the convicted individual whether or not he or she wishes to languish away on death row.

That said, you are talking about a culture where vigilantism for a perceived "wrong" seems to becoming more of the 'norm' these days. Your argument holds about as much weight as comparing apples to oranges imo.
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There were millions of africans killed with machetes.
Did you(we)care about that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21470


If you are speaking of Darfur sp? yes. Not only did I know about it, but I did what I could, financially, to help out. Granted it may not have been much, but I'm of limited means and help where I can and when God sees fit to provide the means to do so.
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I hate to bring politics into this... but let's see how much the media latches onto this for the express purpose of sustaining our presence in Iraq. Maybe it was a government sponsored terrorist act.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 234262


I certainly would hope not, but then again...nothing surprises me these days sigh
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60206, Did you forget so quickly that Bush is on the record as having said that God told him to attack Iraq?

This is on video.

Chew on that awhile.

Then explain how it's ok that according to Bush God told him to start a war with Iraq that has killed over one million innocent Iraqi civilians, at the hands of American troops. Not to mention the horrible injuries of the living, the Depleted Uranium used and left there, and the rapes, pillaging and rampant destruction at the hands of the US military!

This does not take into account the deaths due to the now rampant sectarian violence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238655


Agreed...perhaps if more cell phone footage of these types of atrocities made it's way out into the public's eye, more people would do what they could to stop these types of wars from ever happening.
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238718, please re-read my post with a sarcastic voice.

It is the note of sarcasm that makes the post make sense.

Sorry, I should have clarified that from the start.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238655

Noted AC 238655!
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60206, Did you forget so quickly that Bush is on the record as having said that God told him to attack Iraq?

This is on video.

Chew on that awhile.

Then explain how it's ok that according to Bush God told him to start a war with Iraq that has killed over one million innocent Iraqi civilians, at the hands of American troops. Not to mention the horrible injuries of the living, the Depleted Uranium used and left there, and the rapes, pillaging and rampant destruction at the hands of the US military!

This does not take into account the deaths due to the now rampant sectarian violence.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 238655



If it is on video give us the link so we can watch it. I want to watch the video that Bush said God told him to attack Iraq!!

Link to this video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Hey! stupid moron! Reread the original post. The people who commited the crime are being prosecuted.

You fucking dildo. Grow a brain.

Imagine the chudspah! This brain-dead lemming responding to my post without knowinging what it said!

typical warmonger trogladyte!


The only reason there are laws against it is because of world opinion of the savage practice. It is something that people there do regularly and their fucking clerics support them.

Their society condones honor killing. It is done all the damn time. Our society turns their backs on anyone who kills in the name of religion. Including people who bomb abortion clinics.

That is the difference asshole. Go ask your mom,,,she will splain it to you better.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 60206


Did our society turn their backs or did they try to find the killers and attackers:



Abortion clinic criminals:


Eric Robert Rudolph
James Kopp
Peter James Knight.
Michael F. Griffin
Paul Jennings Hill
John Salvi
Shelly Shannon
Donald Cooper
Clayton Waagner
Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe





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