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CHICAGO.. Is it TIME..Should we send in the FEDERAL troops or is it a IGNITION point for Civil War.. If we do.?.

 
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Chicago has ALWAYS been like this.

This is the site of the St Valentines Day Massacre in 1929.

This is what Chicago was like in the 1920's...

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You fail to see the differences..
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Unless you moved to Chicago before 17 January 1920 then you knew what to expect.
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They simply need to eliminate the gun control laws that unarmed the law-abiding people, then hold a massive gun distribution effort to arm citizens.

It would be a bloody few days, but when the smoke cleared, you would have a much, much safer city.
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Our once Great Cities are a now a War zone..Should we send in FEDERAL TROOPS..
HELL YES..Stop it before it gets worse..It May be a trap..But it must STOP..
What to do..HMMMMM
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seriously, federal troops? What is wrong with you.

How about this? 5G to be deployed in Chicago first.

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I know they are testing it in LA. I know I've been way more on edge then typical. Could there be a connection?
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They simply need to eliminate the gun control laws that unarmed the law-abiding people, then hold a massive gun distribution effort to arm citizens.

It would be a bloody few days, but when the smoke cleared, you would have a much, much safer city.
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Yes indeed..ONE Answer..But the lawsuits after will be a problem and deflect from the intent..
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why does the Chicago police not step in and secure their city?

if they need help there is the State police.....

does the governor need more.....then he can use his National Guard troops..

they should be able to find more then enough existing laws on the books to shut down the gun violence in one part of one city in one state.
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Why the fuck should I do something about it? What ever happened to all the race-based organizations that claim to care more about black people than I do? Why doesn't NAACP, BLM, Black Panther Party, Nation of Islam, SPLC, ACLU, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, DNC, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton all get together and do something about it?

Barack Obama was from Chicago and during the 8 years of his presidency, he could have done more to help black people in Chicago than any other man on the planet, and yet he did NOTHING while the problem continued to get worse. And now you expect ME to help fix it?

Ok, here's my solution. Let's do exactly what the Democrats did. Lets do NOTHING to help them, and instead coordinate with groups that funnel tons of weapons and ammo into the black neighborhoods just like Rahm Emanuel did (this is common knowledge in Chicago). Let them shoot it out to the last goon standing and then throw him in jail.
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Re: CHICAGO.. Is it TIME..Should we send in the FEDERAL troops or is it a IGNITION point for Civil War.. If we do.?.
Our once Great Cities are a now a War zone..Should we send in FEDERAL TROOPS..
HELL YES..Stop it before it gets worse..It May be a trap..But it must STOP..
What to do..HMMMMM
 Quoting: THE GRAND INQUISIDOR


seriously, federal troops? What is wrong with you.

How about this? 5G to be deployed in Chicago first.

[link to www.americaninno.com (secure)]

I know they are testing it in LA. I know I've been way more on edge then typical. Could there be a connection?
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Definition : National Guard

The National Guard may receive state funding, however in most states it is primarily funded through the federal government. The Army, Navy, Marine, Coast Guard, and Air Force Reserve components are not under state control and are solely funded by the federal government.

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i think they should send in the troops but knowing it would ignite some big issues...

sending in the troops may result in sort of peace for a while, but on the other hand it could ignite some big conflict as they would try spin this into a racial thing, they would see this as "the white man, imposing his will upon the black slaves"
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Our once Great Cities are a now a War zone..Should we send in FEDERAL TROOPS..
HELL YES..Stop it before it gets worse..It May be a trap..But it must STOP..
What to do..HMMMMM
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People are too fat, too lazy and more importantly too self-centered to start a civil war.
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Our once Great Cities are a now a War zone..Should we send in FEDERAL TROOPS..
HELL YES..Stop it before it gets worse..It May be a trap..But it must STOP..
What to do..HMMMMM
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People are too fat, too lazy and more importantly too self-centered to start a civil war.
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Indeed some are..
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Re: CHICAGO.. Is it TIME..Should we send in the FEDERAL troops or is it a IGNITION point for Civil War.. If we do.?.
why does the Chicago police not step in and secure their city?

if they need help there is the State police.....

does the governor need more.....then he can use his National Guard troops..

they should be able to find more then enough existing laws on the books to shut down the gun violence in one part of one city in one state.
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^^^ this right here ...

I'm late to this show, but it's a slippery slope the OP is advocating and I have to question his motives for leading GLP in that direction.

Illinois has everything it needs to handle it's own problem.

OP knows that.

So, OP, why the push for Martial Law?

Who pays you and what is their end game?

Or are you simply a stupid low IQ moran?
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why does the Chicago police not step in and secure their city?

if they need help there is the State police.....

does the governor need more.....then he can use his National Guard troops..

they should be able to find more then enough existing laws on the books to shut down the gun violence in one part of one city in one state.
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^^^ this right here ...

I'm late to this show, but it's a slippery slope the OP is advocating and I have to question his motives for leading GLP in that direction.

Illinois has everything it needs to handle it's own problem.

OP knows that.

So, OP, why the push for Martial Law?

Who pays you and what is their end game?

Or are you simply a stupid low IQ moran?
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To answer your questions..

Indeed a slippery slope that must be addressed..

I DOT NOT push for ML in any context..That said..I hope to point out the WORST option hoping that a better one is used..
I wish I got Paid..LOL..

As to your insult..Fuck off
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Kudos to OP for caring about other humans and wanting to do something about the violence, but, let's think this through...

You are proposing to send mostly white National Guard units to Chicago to deal with mostly black-on-black violence. All of Chicago would have interactions with NG members but only one segment would have negative interactions.

When the first black Chicagoan is hurt/killed in such a negative interaction, what happens?

1. NG is pulled out in response to cries of racism AFTER turning Chicago into a powder keg of anger/rage

2. Chicago descends into chaos, mass rioting, and unchecked violence.

3. ???


#2 is the present course IMHO but NG deployments would accelerate that schedule. Right now Chicago has the perception of normalcy. So OP is proposing they go from "normal" to "racist jackboots on the street." (I know that isn't reality but it's the perception)

The solution is to rebuild the black family, black institutions, economic mobility (in progress by Trump), and restore the right to keep and bear arms so that decent men/women can start to clean up the community. This can be done without endangering civil liberties. It can done in spite of Democrats doing the opposite.

Rahm admitted part of the problem, but he is the other part, thus he can't advocate for real solutions. The demoralization of black folks in America was purposefully done by Democrats to own their votes. We need to do the opposite, or at least advertise to black America, that they can be successful when they reject Liberals.
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Kill them all ,let God sort them out.
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Death penalty for gang membership and murder with a firearm That would thin the coonvention down to only the dumbest.
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Send in the national guard. Remove the mayor at gunpoint and install an interim mayor until a special election can be held.
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Some say NO to my poll..WHY??..
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See Posse Comitatus Act
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Why the fuck should I do something about it? What ever happened to all the race-based organizations that claim to care more about black people than I do? Why doesn't NAACP, BLM, Black Panther Party, Nation of Islam, SPLC, ACLU, CNN, MSNBC, CBS, ABC, DNC, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton all get together and do something about it?

Barack Obama was from Chicago and during the 8 years of his presidency, he could have done more to help black people in Chicago than any other man on the planet, and yet he did NOTHING while the problem continued to get worse. And now you expect ME to help fix it?

Ok, here's my solution. Let's do exactly what the Democrats did. Lets do NOTHING to help them, and instead coordinate with groups that funnel tons of weapons and ammo into the black neighborhoods just like Rahm Emanuel did (this is common knowledge in Chicago). Let them shoot it out to the last goon standing and then throw him in jail.
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if it is so bad.....why does the mayor and governor not step in and fix their mess....
they have some of the strongest gun laws in our country.........their citizens have voted and they have made these laws.


it is up to the local city, county, and state law ENFORCEMENT agencies to step up and actually apply these laws and stop this insanity.

no need to send in the army if there has been no effort made by all the LEO below them.......


and the governor does has his National Guard.

It would be best for the President to not step in with Federal action......that would not sit well with the population and would set forth a bad precedent that could be used later.

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light my fire! vote from the rooftops
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NUKE CHICONGO NOW!!
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No, just sell it to the Canadians!
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Ok, give them a 10% discount.
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They simply need to eliminate the gun control laws that unarmed the law-abiding people, then hold a massive gun distribution effort to arm citizens.

It would be a bloody few days, but when the smoke cleared, you would have a much, much safer city.
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clappa
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Nothing would change. It's not the law abiding that's involved here. 99.999999999999999999999 % of the shootings are done by people that already have illegal guns shooting at others who have illegal guns. Best way to solve this is to ring the bad area with National Guard, let the elderly out, drop pallets of ammo in and let the problem solve itself. Bring a collection truck in after a week (like the Purge) and clean up the mess.
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Don't you see how simple it really is. Just tell them that black lives matter and they'll stop killing each other.
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[snip]

Nothing would change. It's not the law abiding that's involved here. 99.999999999999999999999 % of the shootings are done by people that already have illegal guns shooting at others who have illegal guns. Best way to solve this is to ring the bad area with National Guard, let the elderly out, drop pallets of ammo in and let the problem solve itself. Bring a collection truck in after a week (like the Purge) and clean up the mess.
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Everything would change!

The "illegal guns" and criminals are given a monopoly on violence when the people are disarmed. This is the imbalance that is Chicago.

Black men/women should be armed, like all other Americans. They should be protecting their families with threat of force. The natural consequence is a disincentive to commit crime.

This is why areas that have high rates of gun ownership are the safest. It is also why Liberals disarm people, so they lack the ability to oppose state violence.

There should be US Constitutional amendment (in addition to 2A) to mandate Castle Doctrine and Stand Your Ground nation wide, incorporated against every Libtarded Shithole in this country!
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no. so long as they are still just killing eachother,
it's all good, man.
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Our once Great Cities are a now a War zone..Should we send in FEDERAL TROOPS..
HELL YES..Stop it before it gets worse..It May be a trap..But it must STOP..
What to do..HMMMMM
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This is a good question, but WE CANNOT SEND FEDERAL TROOPS unless requested by the state legislature. If the state legislature is not in session, we then have to have a request from the Governor of that state.

The President cannot simply send federal troops. It's against our Constitution.
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No matter how crazy and out of control Chicago may be, we need to remember that there are still good people there, kids, innocent folks that need help.

I think that sending in "the troops" would be a step in the wrong direction, because it could blossom into a big ugly disaster and lead to more bad news.

Maybe the right thing to do, is to allow folks there the same rights as the folks in Oklahoma, or Vermont, or Kansas.

Let the good folks arm themselves so that they can at least fight back. At least they'd have a chance then.

Gun free zones just put the bad guys in command.

Either that, or send in the A team to take out the kingpins, since the police there seem to be outmatched.
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No matter how crazy and out of control Chicago may be, we need to remember that there are still good people there, kids, innocent folks that need help.

I think that sending in "the troops" would be a step in the wrong direction, because it could blossom into a big ugly disaster and lead to more bad news.

Maybe the right thing to do, is to allow folks there the same rights as the folks in Oklahoma, or Vermont, or Kansas.

Let the good folks arm themselves so that they can at least fight back. At least they'd have a chance then.

Gun free zones just put the bad guys in command.

Either that, or send in the A team to take out the kingpins, since the police there seem to be outmatched.
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Since those ChiCongoans want to act like they live in the jungle, then allow them to live under the laws of the jungle.

Fuck 'em! Let them keep killing each other and see what the Democrats will do about it.
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