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Conservatives call for constitutional intervention

 
happenstan

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Framing is a standard technique to change the conversation from it's regular path. This is what's going on with that quote...

Real Conservatives know the country will probably be ok once we are done with this idiot in the office. Fiscally, he's running up the deficit way worse than Bush Jr. did. The US doesn't need an authortarian president.


"“We’re in a battle for the future of our country,” Coburn told the assembly of mostly conservative state lawmakers meeting in New Orleans. “We’re either going to become a socialist, Marxist country like western Europe, or we’re going to be free. As far as me and my family and my guns, I’m going to be free.”

Convention of States, with Alec’s support, is one of three prominent conservative groups pushing for a new constitutional convention. Under article V, if two-thirds of state legislatures so choose, they can force congress to convene such a meeting. On the agenda for Convention of States: an amendment to require a balanced budget, term limits for congress, repealing the federal income tax and giving states the power to veto any federal law, supreme court decision or executive order with a three-fifths vote from the states."


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'They' completely ignore our Bill of Rights and Constitution and then swear to us that it's broken.

That's why I don't trust any of the motherfuckers with a Constitutional Convention.
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You have a valid point. So what do we do?
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Constitutional Amendments, one at a time.
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Used by the Founders...
Book I of The Law of Nations, Chapter XIX, § 212 (Joseph Chitty numbering) – “Citizens and natives”
reads: 'The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to
its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in
the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by
the children of the citizens
, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all
their rights.' 1758 Emerich de Vattel

Oh' What the Hell, do I look like I want to die in some nursing home one day...
America must have 4 new Constitutional Amendments...
1. Drug Tests and Mental Evaluations on all politicians and judges randomly five times per year.
2. Term Limits for Federal politicians and judges.
3. Mental and health standards for Supreme Court Justices and retirement age set.
4. A 'Star Chamber' of elected Natural Born Citizens (no attorney's) to ivestigate, try, and prosecute the politicians and government employee's as they see fit.

Mandatory death penalty by public hanging is the merciful sentence for pedos and their associates.

Democrats are a WMD, literally.

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In theory it's good but I can only see them taking away the second amendment as well as bastardizing the first.
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Framing is a standard technique to change the conversation from it's regular path. This is what's going on with that quote...

Real Conservatives know the country will probably be ok once we are done with this idiot in the office. Fiscally, he's running up the deficit way worse than Bush Jr. did. The US doesn't need an authortarian president.


"“We’re in a battle for the future of our country,” Coburn told the assembly of mostly conservative state lawmakers meeting in New Orleans. “We’re either going to become a socialist, Marxist country like western Europe, or we’re going to be free. As far as me and my family and my guns, I’m going to be free.”

Convention of States, with Alec’s support, is one of three prominent conservative groups pushing for a new constitutional convention. Under article V, if two-thirds of state legislatures so choose, they can force congress to convene such a meeting. On the agenda for Convention of States: an amendment to require a balanced budget, term limits for congress, repealing the federal income tax and giving states the power to veto any federal law, supreme court decision or executive order with a three-fifths vote from the states."


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Nope. We need enforcement of the constitution and elimination of the Fed. A CC would end up eliminating our most important rights.
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Once a Con Con is opened anything can be brought to the table. You think the Neo Bolsheviks don't get a hard on at the thought?
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'They' completely ignore our Bill of Rights and Constitution and then swear to us that it's broken.

That's why I don't trust any of the motherfuckers with a Constitutional Convention.
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This x 1000.

They create the Problem..

then push the media-led 'Reaction'..

then implement/impose their (initial-intended).. 'Solution'.
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In theory it's good but I can only see them taking away the second amendment as well as bastardizing the first.
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I could also imagine changes to the 8th and 4th aimed at "terrorists".
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'They' completely ignore our Bill of Rights and Constitution and then swear to us that it's broken.

That's why I don't trust any of the motherfuckers with a Constitutional Convention.
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Sounds like a fucking trap to me also.
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"“We’re in a battle for the future of our country,” Coburn told the assembly of mostly conservative state lawmakers meeting in New Orleans. “We’re either going to become a socialist, Marxist country like western Europe, or we’re going to be free. As far as me and my family and my guns, I’m going to be free.”

Convention of States, with Alec’s support, is one of three prominent conservative groups pushing for a new constitutional convention. Under article V, if two-thirds of state legislatures so choose, they can force congress to convene such a meeting. On the agenda for Convention of States: an amendment to require a balanced budget, term limits for congress, repealing the federal income tax and giving states the power to veto any federal law, supreme court decision or executive order with a three-fifths vote from the states."


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Yet Coburn and the other RINOs support giving Israel billions in foreign aid, whilst America crumbles and our homeless vets rot on the street. LOL! Left or Right: they are all the same. The few American First patriots that come along (like Buchanan or Ron Paul) are quickly branded anti-semites and sidelined.
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"“We’re in a battle for the future of our country,” Coburn told the assembly of mostly conservative state lawmakers meeting in New Orleans. “We’re either going to become a socialist, Marxist country like western Europe, or we’re going to be free. As far as me and my family and my guns, I’m going to be free.”

Convention of States, with Alec’s support, is one of three prominent conservative groups pushing for a new constitutional convention. Under article V, if two-thirds of state legislatures so choose, they can force congress to convene such a meeting. On the agenda for Convention of States: an amendment to require a balanced budget, term limits for congress, repealing the federal income tax and giving states the power to veto any federal law, supreme court decision or executive order with a three-fifths vote from the states."


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Actually, all that needs to happen is to defund, decertify, revoke, rescind, overturn, and cancel any and all agencies that are not specifically in the constitution.

FBI
CIA
IRS
BLM ( bureau of land management)
NSA
SEC
DOJ
FEMA
Dept. of Homeland SEcurity
ATF
Wildlife and Fisheries
EPA
FDA
... on and on.

Balanced budget , no more lawlessness from corrupt politicians.

But we do need to FORCE Term Limits for all courts and aall members of Congress, both House and Senate.
Just because YOU don’t believe
in the Rougarou; or the Loup Garou, don’t make you safe; No !

The Constitution is a blend of 'moral certitude' -- which is one of the reasons that criminals are determined to be rid of it and We the People must be even more determined to defend it.

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This is the only way to save the republic short of armed confrontation in the future.
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The deep state would take over any CC. It is what they are waiting for. All of the delegates would be deep state plants. They'd butcher the Bill of Rights and enslave us all or kill us.

Look it up. Communists are drooling over a CC. It's why my state, Idaho, won't sign on.

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Real Conservatives know the country will probably be ok once we are done with this idiot in the office. Fiscally, he's running up the deficit way worse than Bush Jr. did. The US doesn't need an authortarian president.

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Nope. We need enforcement of the constitution and elimination of the Fed. A CC would end up eliminating our most important rights.
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Bullshit, thats the lie parroted around, but the amendment process is the only legal process for significant Constitutional change, and was used frequently until the courts allowed congress to run amok.

A CC isnt a free for all, the scope of the convention is limited to the charter its organized under.

Dont repeat the statist lie to scare people.
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Well that’s stupid because anything goes in a constitutional convention and I have a feeling we would lose more liberties than gained

So bad fucking idea period
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Nope. We need enforcement of the constitution and elimination of the Fed. A CC would end up eliminating our most important rights.
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Bullshit, thats the lie parroted around, but the amendment process is the only legal process for significant Constitutional change, and was used frequently until the courts allowed congress to run amok.

A CC isnt a free for all, the scope of the convention is limited to the charter its organized under.

Dont repeat the statist lie to scare people.
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I’m sorry your just wrong

Anything can be brought to table during a constitutional convention period

Fuck that shit
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Nope. We need enforcement of the constitution and elimination of the Fed. A CC would end up eliminating our most important rights.
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Bullshit, thats the lie parroted around, but the amendment process is the only legal process for significant Constitutional change, and was used frequently until the courts allowed congress to run amok.

A CC isnt a free for all, the scope of the convention is limited to the charter its organized under.

Dont repeat the statist lie to scare people.
 Quoting: Spaginal


I’m sorry your just wrong

Anything can be brought to table during a constitutional convention period

Fuck that shit
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Im not wrong. 45 states have applied to congress for Article 5 and its well established now that if the scope of the convention isnt the same, it wont be called, and it hasnt.

When 2/3s charter for the same subject, congress is obligated to call the convention, at which point the process starts. Once its done, 3/4s of all state legislatures need to ratify it.

If you guys think this process is easy and will destroy the constitution, then you are clearly misinformed. States hold amendment votes that dont destroy their states and if you think 3/4s of your local state assemblies would vote in a dictatorship then you guys are in lalaland.

The media and federal government hate the idea of an article 5 because it would limit their power, if they ignore the result of the process its game on.
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Hell NO!

You open a con con and you open the Constitution to be horribly diluted/destroyed. The left is waiting for this, so they can take the process over! Don't be fooled! They have planned for this exact thing.

Instead, how about following WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE CONSTITUTION!? Is anyone stupid enough to believe that since they are not made (by the ones who are supposed to 'make' them-WE THE PEOPLE) to follow it now, they'll follow it after a con con?! Dummy! Of course they won't! Gullible children.
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OH hell no! My state would turn into a turd world shithole In no time.

I like owning a piece of all the states via the federal government...it ain't all bad.

I am not willing to go to pedo, free for all, anything goes states yet.

Good lord man...you trust all those people that much once they receive that golden ticket in each state to have the best interest of the majority of the people over their own personal interests more than what we have going on today?

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Nope. We need enforcement of the constitution and elimination of the Fed. A CC would end up eliminating our most important rights.
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Bullshit, thats the lie parroted around, but the amendment process is the only legal process for significant Constitutional change, and was used frequently until the courts allowed congress to run amok.

A CC isnt a free for all, the scope of the convention is limited to the charter its organized under.

Dont repeat the statist lie to scare people.
 Quoting: Spaginal


I’m sorry your just wrong

Anything can be brought to table during a constitutional convention period

Fuck that shit
 Quoting: The Patriot Mind


Im not wrong. 45 states have applied to congress for Article 5 and its well established now that if the scope of the convention isnt the same, it wont be called, and it hasnt.

When 2/3s charter for the same subject, congress is obligated to call the convention, at which point the process starts. Once its done, 3/4s of all state legislatures need to ratify it.

If you guys think this process is easy and will destroy the constitution, then you are clearly misinformed. States hold amendment votes that dont destroy their states and if you think 3/4s of your local state assemblies would vote in a dictatorship then you guys are in lalaland.

The media and federal government hate the idea of an article 5 because it would limit their power, if they ignore the result of the process its game on.
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Nope. We need enforcement of the constitution and elimination of the Fed. A CC would end up eliminating our most important rights.
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Bullshit, thats the lie parroted around, but the amendment process is the only legal process for significant Constitutional change, and was used frequently until the courts allowed congress to run amok.

A CC isnt a free for all, the scope of the convention is limited to the charter its organized under.

Dont repeat the statist lie to scare people.
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Wow...not thinking ahead, are we? Enforcing what we have is the only method/way forward. If they don't follow it now, what in the world makes you believe they'll follow it after? Wishful thinking?!

Dude-the IRS WAS NOT voted in by a clear margin to win approval by the states-but there it is, existing. Where's the original 13th Amendment? Don't tell me it can't be manipulated as it's already happened. Let alone now we have justices that think THEY, and not the Legislature, can make law.
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Ya than liberals well use it to get rid of the Second Amendment, and change the First Amendment and maybe replace all other Amendments also.
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President Trump is artfully handling all of this.
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I like the Constitution the way it is.

We only need to reaffirm it and pass an amendment or laws? Abolish? that wipes out these made up bureaucracies that circumvent it.
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This is the only way to save the republic short of armed confrontation in the future.
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Unfortunately, there is no other way to save it.

Antifa and other dipshits are more than willing to engage in conflict and seem to do so readily.

Those of us who wish to be left the hell alone will eventually run out of options.

As these masses creep and continue their incessant move towards removal of us who don't wish to engage them? They will leave us no choice. At that point, they'll be mowed down like grass.

They really have no comprehension of the shit storm they're starting.

Wearing a black mask and spouting bullshit doesn't stop your eventual demise should you continue doing so.

Eventually, you dipshits WILL meet someone who is tired of your shit and will grant you your acceptance to Valhalla or whatever the fuck you think is waiting for you.

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We could lose the 2nd Amendment. We have the best constitution in the world that I know of, what other one allows us to be armed? The tendency of these things is to go toward the mean. I guarantee you the 2nd Amendment would be in play.

This is a TERRIBLE idea, unless the agenda of this meeting can be firmly controlled in advance.
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"“We’re in a battle for the future of our country,” Coburn told the assembly of mostly conservative state lawmakers meeting in New Orleans. “We’re either going to become a socialist, Marxist country like western Europe, or we’re going to be free. As far as me and my family and my guns, I’m going to be free.”

Convention of States, with Alec’s support, is one of three prominent conservative groups pushing for a new constitutional convention. Under article V, if two-thirds of state legislatures so choose, they can force congress to convene such a meeting. On the agenda for Convention of States: an amendment to require a balanced budget, term limits for congress, repealing the federal income tax and giving states the power to veto any federal law, supreme court decision or executive order with a three-fifths vote from the states."


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If it looks like this is going to move forward, there will be a false flag to stop it, mark my words.
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We need term limits and election finance reform.
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We need term limits and election/campaign finance reform.

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Rothschilds stated give me control of a nations wealth and I care not who makes the laws. Federal reserve needs to be audited then eliminated.
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I don't trust politicians now days touching the constitution. They'll fuck it up, probably ban hate speech and restrict the 2nd Amendment.





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