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The Devil isn't evil: CHANGE MY MIND

 
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Using the Bible as evidence, I'd like you to try and convince me that the Devil is evil.

Is he even really an "enemy" of God?
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Read my sig.
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The Clementine Homilies [...] in which it is clearly taught that the Devil is [...] a God-serving being [...]

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KJV Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

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Yahweh yaldabaoth which is the god of the Old Testament is the demiurge. Most religious people are worshipping Satan without knowing it. They misunderstood Jesus's teachings which was to deny ego and fleshy desires and to follow their spirit. The truth was Jesus was He who was inside of them, which was the spirit.
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Read my sig.
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Of course he works for God.

I liken him to Slugworth in Willy Wonka & the Chocolate Factory.
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Billions of Devils and they are all sick puppies.
All my post are theatrical artistic writing .
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Using the Bible as evidence, I'd like you to try and convince me that the Devil is evil.

Is he even really an "enemy" of God?
 Quoting: Apep


That's exactly they type of statement the devil would prompt you to post.

But so that others aren't swayed by the wiles of the devil..


Jesus said to the Jews who denied Him:

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer (evil) from the beginning, and abode not in the truth (evil), because there is no truth in him (evil liar). When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44



Jesus calls the devil "the enemy" is His explanation of the parable of the tares:

The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. Matthew 13:39

There are many more, but that's enough to prove that the devil, though created by God for God's purpose, was created to be evil.
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OP is a dumbass, news at 11
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Using the Bible as evidence, I'd like you to try and convince me that the Devil is evil.

Is he even really an "enemy" of God?
 Quoting: Apep


That's exactly they type of statement the devil would prompt you to post.

But so that others aren't swayed by the wiles of the devil..


Jesus said to the Jews who denied Him:

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer (evil) from the beginning, and abode not in the truth (evil), because there is no truth in him (evil liar). When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44



Jesus calls the devil "the enemy" is His explanation of the parable of the tares:

The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. Matthew 13:39

There are many more, but that's enough to prove that the devil, though created by God for God's purpose, was created to be evil.
 Quoting: NoFriendOfTheWorld


There is nothing written in the Bible to support that Satan was a murderer other than Jesus saying so, which is nothing more than hearsay.

If he abode not in the truth, then why is the first thing he did (if you agree that he was the serpent) was tempt Adam and Eve with the knowledge that God was denying them?

Father of Lies? He told exactly ONE LIE in the entirety of the Bible, to Eve.

He wasn't created evil if he was at first an angel.
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Using the Bible as evidence, I'd like you to try and convince me that the Devil is evil.

Is he even really an "enemy" of God?
 Quoting: Apep


This holds true for all things.

You know nothing except for all things outside of yourself. By those same things your mind is formed for you.

The only 100% real reality TRUTH we can know is CHrist being the manifestation of the Holy Word of God the all & all.

Yet most will say this too is outside of oneself and therefore = to the 2nd sentence.

This is the quandary whereby your eternity rests and a choice you are forced to make being born into this unholy world that will teach you all lies and vanity of worthlessness.

Like flies stuck in a spider's web already infused with some venom being paralyzed & wrapped up in bondage is what all vice & sin is until we follow the good shepherd who removes the chains & venon thereby freeing our minds / spirit / soul and eventually even this body towards the joyful resurrection being our ultimate hope in Him.

Anything beyond these things is a slow death and another tasty meal for a spider. Can you hear the screams & sighs & cries of those stuck around you in the web? Listen.

They are the hopeless, the ones in chains of drugs, hate, adultery, lies, fornication, alcoholism, porn & sex & lust,covetousness, hate, murder, & all depressions so deep like a quicksand up to your neck making it hard to breathe.

Give the least of all these around you daily an uplifting hand and be rewarded in this life and in the one to come. Either way being a win + win situation for you from a love far far beyond yourself.

If you always do what you always did you will always get what you always got. Make that change & know as you are known.

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Using the Bible as evidence, I'd like you to try and convince me that the Devil is evil.

Is he even really an "enemy" of God?
 Quoting: Apep


That's exactly they type of statement the devil would prompt you to post.

But so that others aren't swayed by the wiles of the devil..


Jesus said to the Jews who denied Him:

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer (evil) from the beginning, and abode not in the truth (evil), because there is no truth in him (evil liar). When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44



Jesus calls the devil "the enemy" is His explanation of the parable of the tares:

The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. Matthew 13:39

There are many more, but that's enough to prove that the devil, though created by God for God's purpose, was created to be evil.
 Quoting: NoFriendOfTheWorld


There is nothing written in the Bible to support that Satan was a murderer other than Jesus saying so, which is nothing more than hearsay.

If he abode not in the truth, then why is the first thing he did (if you agree that he was the serpent) was tempt Adam and Eve with the knowledge that God was denying them?

Father of Lies? He told exactly ONE LIE in the entirety of the Bible, to Eve.

He wasn't created evil if he was at first an angel.
 Quoting: Apep


So then you call Jesus the liar? Of course you do, Adversary.
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Using the Bible as evidence, I'd like you to try and convince me that the Devil is evil.

Is he even really an "enemy" of God?
 Quoting: Apep


That's exactly they type of statement the devil would prompt you to post.

But so that others aren't swayed by the wiles of the devil..


Jesus said to the Jews who denied Him:

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer (evil) from the beginning, and abode not in the truth (evil), because there is no truth in him (evil liar). When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44



Jesus calls the devil "the enemy" is His explanation of the parable of the tares:

The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. Matthew 13:39

There are many more, but that's enough to prove that the devil, though created by God for God's purpose, was created to be evil.
 Quoting: NoFriendOfTheWorld


There is nothing written in the Bible to support that Satan was a murderer other than Jesus saying so, which is nothing more than hearsay.

If he abode not in the truth, then why is the first thing he did (if you agree that he was the serpent) was tempt Adam and Eve with the knowledge that God was denying them?

Father of Lies? He told exactly ONE LIE in the entirety of the Bible, to Eve.

He wasn't created evil if he was at first an angel.
 Quoting: Apep


So then you call Jesus the liar? Of course you do, Adversary.
 Quoting: NoFriendOfTheWorld


I didn't say Jesus was lying; he may very well be telling the truth. He doesn't elaborate, however, and provides no evidence let alone proof that the Devil is a murderer. Nobody else does either.
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That's exactly they type of statement the devil would prompt you to post.

But so that others aren't swayed by the wiles of the devil..


Jesus said to the Jews who denied Him:

Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer (evil) from the beginning, and abode not in the truth (evil), because there is no truth in him (evil liar). When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. John 8:44



Jesus calls the devil "the enemy" is His explanation of the parable of the tares:

The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. Matthew 13:39

There are many more, but that's enough to prove that the devil, though created by God for God's purpose, was created to be evil.
 Quoting: NoFriendOfTheWorld


There is nothing written in the Bible to support that Satan was a murderer other than Jesus saying so, which is nothing more than hearsay.

If he abode not in the truth, then why is the first thing he did (if you agree that he was the serpent) was tempt Adam and Eve with the knowledge that God was denying them?

Father of Lies? He told exactly ONE LIE in the entirety of the Bible, to Eve.

He wasn't created evil if he was at first an angel.
 Quoting: Apep


So then you call Jesus the liar? Of course you do, Adversary.
 Quoting: NoFriendOfTheWorld


I didn't say Jesus was lying; he may very well be telling the truth. He doesn't elaborate, however, and provides no evidence let alone proof that the Devil is a murderer. Nobody else does either.
 Quoting: Apep



If you actually read the Bible, this wouldn't even be an issue.
Clearly you haven't and you want people to spoonfeed you.

Do your own damn research
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Would God send anyone not his enemy to hell?

"and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever." Revelation 20:10
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Lucifer, a name based on the Latin name for the Morning Star. Jesus, self-described as "the bright Morning Star" in the Christian Bible. John the Baptist, called a "bright morning star" in Eastern Orthodox Church hymnology. Mary the mother of Jesus, called "morning star" in the Litany of Loreto.



The answer is the sun is not evil if you get to close neither is the devil.

The devil is not evil either your just too close to superiority
keep ya third eye wide.
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Thread: Prove to me the devil is not evil

Read My Post.. It is there your question will be answered with the truth..
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Using the Bible as evidence, I'd like you to try and convince me that the Devil is evil.

Is he even really an "enemy" of God?
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the d works for god
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Would God send anyone not his enemy to hell?

"and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever." Revelation 20:10
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Good point, although Satan isn't in Hell yet.
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Using the Bible as evidence, I'd like you to try and convince me that the Devil is evil.

Is he even really an "enemy" of God?
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He is just doing his job. Ppl need to realize their job is to deny his pleasures and desire the other plain more than this prison. He is the warden following the rules. It is us who won't take accountability for our shortcomings. Satan just like you fell and wishes he could go home. If his only way their is to folow the rules he has been given ask yourself are you following the rules you have been given? Stop blaming him.
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Would God send anyone not his enemy to hell?

"and the devil who had deceived them was thrown into the lake of fire and sulfur where the beast and the false prophet were, and they will be tormented day and night forever and ever." Revelation 20:10
 Quoting: Name87


Good point, although Satan isn't in Hell yet.
 Quoting: Apep


"Forever" is a piss poor translation.
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The Clementine Homilies [...] in which it is clearly taught that the Devil is [...] a God-serving being [...]

~ John Wesley Hanson - Universalism p. 61

KJV Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.

PS. I am not religious.
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Using the Bible as evidence, I'd like you to try and convince me that the Devil is evil.

Is he even really an "enemy" of God?
 Quoting: Apep


the d works for god
 Quoting: Jd2303


Yep. He's his right hand man. Gonna punish all the non-believers for him.
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Using the Bible as evidence, I'd like you to try and convince me that the Devil is evil.

Is he even really an "enemy" of God?
 Quoting: Apep


The fact that you even know what the term Evil means is directly due to the Selfish (evil) actions of the Devil.
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Using the Bible as evidence, I'd like you to try and convince me that the Devil is evil.

Is he even really an "enemy" of God?
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