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| Zorro A. Knievel Esq.
Offer Upgrade  User ID: 76017695  United States08/23/2018 11:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Sikhed
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76465586 United States08/23/2018 11:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| I'm From TEXAS y'all
User ID: 73938027 United States08/23/2018 11:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've only posted on here like 3 times, usually just "lurk" but am in need of some advice/help. Quoting: Zorro A. Knievel Esq. I take care of my 83 year old grandmother in her 150 year old house, and we just had some electrical work done to the kitchen. GFCIs put in and dedicated circuits put in for the fridge and new outlets... Long story short... The heating oil company came yesterday and filled her oil tank and pissed her off because it's summer and she didn't realize the boiler runs during the summer in order to make hot water... And after reading the digital thermostat in the living room and seeing it at 86F she thought her heat was on... So, she went in the basement and started turning off breakers looking for the boiler breaker and even threw the switch on the boiler itself... Now the new outlets in the kitchen don't work (1 new GFCI outlet and the fridge outlet). I've turned on and off the corresponding breakers multiple times, tried resetting/testing the outlet with the buttons, turned off and on every breaker and Main, and also tried resetting/testing the only other GFCI outlet in the bathroom with no luck... When I push the reset button on the GFCI outlet it doesn't even click, the fridge outlet does not have Test/Reset buttons, both are on their own seperate dedicated circuits with 20 amp breakers. I'm frustrated. Any ideas as to why these outlets no longer work after only turning off their breakers? Sorry for being long winded, I'm frustrated as hell. I love Grandma to death but she's been getting in to everything like a little kid lately. BAD gfci outlet... it needs to click and hold ' no clicky no worky Abolish ICE! They took our slaves once, don't let it happen again -- Vote Democrat (I need a good signature line...help??) |
| I'm From TEXAS y'all
User ID: 73938027 United States08/23/2018 11:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If that many things are still out it sounds like she turned off a main breaker upstream that feeds the panel. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 76862545 Does the outside electric meter have a main breaker(s) built into it's enclosure? I reread your post, YES if multiple circuits are off, sub panel needs power Abolish ICE! They took our slaves once, don't let it happen again -- Vote Democrat (I need a good signature line...help??) |
| 30IF
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| 30IF
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| Northman
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| Zorro A. Knievel Esq.
(OP) User ID: 76017695 United States08/23/2018 11:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's a reputable local company. They stand behind their work. I'm just trying to troubleshoot and see if there's anything I could be overlooking before I call them in the morning. I don't think there would be any hidden fuse boxes on the new dedicated circuits, I can pretty much trace the new wiring from the new outlets from the kitchen to the box. The whole rest of the house is old cloth bound wire and BX. Before the recent electrical work was done, all the outlets and fridge where tied into a single circuit and 20 amp breaker that also included all the outlets in the addition that was put on around WW2. Its been a nightmare... The living room even still has an outlet in the floor... Everything is old... COVID IS NOT FUCKING REAL, WW3 AIN'T GUNNA HAPPEN. TURN OFF YOUR MOTHERFUCKING TV. [link to youtube.com (secure)] [link to youtube.com (secure)] |
| VigilantTexan
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| Zorro A. Knievel Esq.
(OP) User ID: 76017695 United States08/23/2018 11:54 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'll checked back on here in the morning before I go to work for any more responses. Thank You to everybody for the responses so far. I'm beat and have to get up early. You know what's funny/ironic? I work for Schneider Electric building expensive breaker boxes and control panels for Applied Materials. Stuff that controls machines that build microchips and controls robots on assembly lines lol... And some breakers that Grandma tripped have me trippin'. Last week she unplugged the the hdmi cable from the TV in order to change the remote batteries... I was tired and not thinking so I called Comcast like a jackass just to have the chick on the phone tell me to check the connections... Lol COVID IS NOT FUCKING REAL, WW3 AIN'T GUNNA HAPPEN. TURN OFF YOUR MOTHERFUCKING TV. [link to youtube.com (secure)] [link to youtube.com (secure)] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 76867765 United States08/24/2018 12:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 73963206 United States08/24/2018 12:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am a liscensed electrician in Texas and i say you need to turn the breaker to on and use a tester and see if there is power coming out of the breaker. Start there. Everything else is worthless until you find out if the breaker is working. Quoting: VigilantTexan Agree. Correct me if I am wrong: Any outlet downstream in the circuit from a GFCI outlet that develops a "ground fault" would trip and not allow a reset at the "test/ reset on the GFCI. This is assuming that any non-GFCI outlets daisy chained downstream are protected by the GFCI outlet upstream. It would seem odd however to have both GFCI outlets experiencing this at the same time though, assuming they are on separate circuit breakers. Providing my understating is correct, one might disconnect other appliances or equipment that are on that same circuit that could be delivering a ground fault. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 40546062 United States08/24/2018 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | "When I push the reset button on the GFCI outlet it doesn't even click" Those GFI outlets can go bad almost right out the box. It its not clicking it may be bad and require replacement. I would call that person who did those upgrades or a local electrician as i'm sure its minor. |
| Lofty Elim
User ID: 75047635 United States08/24/2018 09:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Most breakers now days have to have the spring reset inside them then turned to on. Push breaker switch to off position then to on. You should feel a bit of resistance in doing it, you are resetting the spring that does the actual tripping when something shorts. Psalm33:3 Sing unto 'Him' a 'New Song'. Play 'SKILLFULLY' with a 'LOUD NOISE'. |
| tkwasny
User ID: 71641081 United States08/24/2018 09:20 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My house is 1865 and I re-wired pretty much the entire thing out of shock and fear of what I found. Of course after I bought it an found out my inspector for getting the loan was a clown and shill for the real estate agent. New 48-port service box, everything 12-2 with ground even supposed 15A circuits. Houses from the 50's and older are almost always a horror story beyond words. You need to shut off every breaker. Turn on just one breaker and live sense every, single load in the entire house. Do this one breaker at a time with every other breaker off. Generate a written schematic. Process from there what you need to do. |
| tkwasny
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| Evil_Twin
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| tkwasny
User ID: 71641081 United States08/24/2018 09:58 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had wiring crossed in my house where multiple loads were wired to multiple breakers in parallel to solve some dickheads problem of a breaker or two tripping too easily. Luckily when this jerk did this they chose the same phase of the 2 phases that come into the house. |
| Zorro A. Knievel Esq.
(OP) User ID: 72831940 United States08/24/2018 12:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank You for all the responses! The electrician is here now and apparently the 2 new breakers were never seated properly and when Ms.Muscles threw the switch they came unseated. I think the next step is making an appointment to have the entire house upgraded. The house has been in the family since it was built and she's been in it 50+ years and according to her nothing has ever been done with the wiriring accept for when the addition was remodeled 15 years ago (when the neighbor/contractor decided it was a good idea to wire the fridge, 2 kitchen outlets, and 2 additional outlets in the remodeled room to a single 15 amp breaker). We love the house, very well built, nothing is even close to square but it's very well built. The electrician just left, 2 new breakers properly attached free of charge. Took him 20 minutes. COVID IS NOT FUCKING REAL, WW3 AIN'T GUNNA HAPPEN. TURN OFF YOUR MOTHERFUCKING TV. [link to youtube.com (secure)] [link to youtube.com (secure)] |
| I'm From TEXAS y'all
User ID: 73938027 United States08/24/2018 12:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Honestly, most GFCI outlets are pure crap and will absolutely fail within a few minutes of installation. Quoting: Evil_Twin Chinese shit now... especially the ones from Home Depot Abolish ICE! They took our slaves once, don't let it happen again -- Vote Democrat (I need a good signature line...help??) |
| Wookiee666
User ID: 62421844 United States08/24/2018 12:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Thank You for all the responses! The electrician is here now and apparently the 2 new breakers were never seated properly and when Ms.Muscles threw the switch they came unseated. I think the next step is making an appointment to have the entire house upgraded. The house has been in the family since it was built and she's been in it 50+ years and according to her nothing has ever been done with the wiriring accept for when the addition was remodeled 15 years ago (when the neighbor/contractor decided it was a good idea to wire the fridge, 2 kitchen outlets, and 2 additional outlets in the remodeled room to a single 15 amp breaker). Quoting: Zorro A. Knievel Esq. We love the house, very well built, nothing is even close to square but it's very well built. The electrician just left, 2 new breakers properly attached free of charge. Took him 20 minutes. That's what they do. Your granny messed up their future panel replacement. She wasn't supposed to play with the breakers. Had she left them alone, the unseated breakers would have been over-heating which over time would have caused the buss to fail, thus giving them a call-out, (usually over a holiday or week-end) to replace the entire panel. Warning: JustSomeGuy_42 is a publicly confessed unvaxxed neophiliac . If the number 666 is considered evil. then technically, 25.8069758 is the root of all evil. |
| Zorro A. Knievel Esq.
(OP) User ID: 72831940 United States08/24/2018 12:39 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would not surprise me actually. Planned Obsolecense/Job Security you might say? COVID IS NOT FUCKING REAL, WW3 AIN'T GUNNA HAPPEN. TURN OFF YOUR MOTHERFUCKING TV. [link to youtube.com (secure)] [link to youtube.com (secure)] |
| Monger of Many Things
User ID: 75109379  Netherlands08/24/2018 12:43 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I've only posted on here like 3 times, usually just "lurk" but am in need of some advice/help. Quoting: Zorro A. Knievel Esq. I take care of my 83 year old grandmother in her 150 year old house, and we just had some electrical work done to the kitchen. GFCIs put in and dedicated circuits put in for the fridge and new outlets... Long story short... The heating oil company came yesterday and filled her oil tank and pissed her off because it's summer and she didn't realize the boiler runs during the summer in order to make hot water... And after reading the digital thermostat in the living room and seeing it at 86F she thought her heat was on... So, she went in the basement and started turning off breakers looking for the boiler breaker and even threw the switch on the boiler itself... Now the new outlets in the kitchen don't work (1 new GFCI outlet and the fridge outlet). I've turned on and off the corresponding breakers multiple times, tried resetting/testing the outlet with the buttons, turned off and on every breaker and Main, and also tried resetting/testing the only other GFCI outlet in the bathroom with no luck... When I push the reset button on the GFCI outlet it doesn't even click, the fridge outlet does not have Test/Reset buttons, both are on their own seperate dedicated circuits with 20 amp breakers. I'm frustrated. Any ideas as to why these outlets no longer work after only turning off their breakers? Sorry for being long winded, I'm frustrated as hell. I love Grandma to death but she's been getting in to everything like a little kid lately. BAD gfci outlet... it needs to click and hold ' no clicky no worky The outlet is probably fine, they will not click if they don't have power to them. There is something upstream breaking the circuit. Last Edited by Bello Antioquia on 08/24/2018 12:44 PM If I had a dollar for every time I got suspicious... I'd wonder who was paying me, and why? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 75761068 United States08/24/2018 01:19 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Would not surprise me actually. Planned Obsolecense/Job Security you might say? Quoting: Zorro A. Knievel Esq. There's no doubt some people will do those things, but most times it's just crappy cheap products to save on costs so contract bidding is comparable. The old adage remains true, you get what you pay for and sometimes even less. |
