new kinds of bullying by children... the "whisper bully"

This sounds similar to gaslighting or gangstalking techniques. Where whispers and gossip are used as weapons, if so whispering would likely be a small part of the intimidation. Likely coordinated with social media and they don't just target the weak, as they try recruit others into the gang so they would target assets they want in the group as well.

It's kind of a messed up world we live in.

I agree. But they need that at home too.

They don't have fathers teaching them how to hold back their strength.

When a father rough houses with their kids the child learns not to go all out and stab or use a rock.

yup!

if I don't fix the whisper bully, at least I'm letting the kid know who is being bullied know that he's not crazy

Bullying is an integral part of the pecking order. All animals have a form of it.

The lesson you learn to overcome being bullied is a lifelong lesson and is missing in these crybaby millennials, hence "toxic masculinity" and the whatnot.


I'll buy y'all the next round.

i hate collective bullying in safe places

Happened to me in school about 7th grade.

First time I told the teacher that they needed to either remove me or the kid from the class room before something happened.

Second time I picked up a chair and hit him with it. Days or weeks later can't remember.

Do you remember when you were young (I guess for those 40+) and someone would tease the big kid for being dumb? Then the big kid would punch the teasing brainy kid and the brainy kid never teased the big kid again?

now that the dumb kid is no longer allowed to defend himself from intellectual bullying, because he was declared the one and only bully, the bullying has gone to new levels that are fucking absurd.

I'm volunteering at my local school and have seen some of the smart kids whispering horrible fucking stuff. Pushing buttons to escalate shit to new levels.

Then the kid being bullied by words finally has enough and hits the smart kid.

Admit it, you kind of agree with the physical response, yes? Sure, it's a wrong response, but the reason is this...

I've seen adults ignore the whispered taunts. I've seen those adults jump all over the kid who hits the whisperer for doing the hitting.

Then the kid being intellectually or emotionally bullied feels alone, isolated and has no one to turn to... so the situation gets worse.

Maybe allowing a little bit of hitting might be a good thing? Because the "whisper bully" -- TO ME -- is way fucking worse than the guy who occasionally responds with force.

Sorry, not 100% sure where I'm going with this. I guess...

if you're an adult who watches kids, maybe, just maybe, stop and listen to the kid who did the hitting. Maybe if you took their "side" just a little and told the "whisper bully" to shut the fuck up, everything might be a little better.

I know this is difficult because I have seen first hand that the whisper bully is polite and charismatic with the adults, so the adults have a hard time believing that the whisper bully is actually the instigator. While the one doing the hitting is so fucking flustered that he cannot explain all the little taunts that lead up to the hitting.

maybe hitting is wrong, but ignoring all the shit that lead up to it is also wrong.

My son will defend himself against anyone that puts their hands ON him, as an act of aggression ..period

oh yeah ... go on and justify the buly, you ignorant malformed narcissistic mf. you on thr rong side of history, I can tell you that. you better straighten up with god rite now. your delusional self superiority will not be ruling the day for much longer.

The lesson you learn to overcome being bullied is a lifelong lesson and is missing in these crybaby millennials, hence "toxic masculinity" and the whatnot.

My son will defend himself against anyone that puts their hands ON him, as an act of aggression ..period

Sorry but I disagree. Violence is not a proper response to words.

that's fair, but what I'm suggesting is that this taunting is more than just some words. Way more. Maybe re-read OP?

I did, and I know how horrible those whisperers can be, but the kids need to learn to IGNORE the whispering bullies. Hitting them is what they want. Ignoring them is not what they want.

The only time I ever lashed out in violence in school was in response to repeated kicks under the desk, for days, and the teacher didn't care. So I jumped on the kid's back and clawed his cheeks, flesh ribbons were under my fingernails. Neither one of us got in trouble.

i hate collective bullying in safe places

I don't think i explained this clearly...

I am doing something.

I am at the school.

I'm getting in the faces of these kids. I'm telling the whisper bullies to (politely) shut the fuck up.

I'm telling the kid who throws the punch, which you suggest is not happening, so reading comprehension much? To talk to me before flipping out. I'm not reporting the kid who hits the whisper bully. I'm telling him that I understand his frustration so he doesn't feel isolated and misunderstood.

So, if you're the man you claim to be, you'll acknowledge your two of three incorrect accusations. But will you surprise me or are you predictable?

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also, "...The adult whos sees it and says nothing..." that's the real problem as they DON'T SEE it. They "see" it, but it does NOT register in their brain, at all.

Im just joshing around with words brother. Sarcasm, thats it.


Stop being a joto.