new kinds of bullying by children... the "whisper bully"

That might be part of the problem with these ganstalking scenarios. Standing up and fighting only makes it worse.

The old bullying most men wouldn't have a problem with, because after you fought you often gained a little respect for the other person. But when the game is rigged that if you do fight or stand up, the bullying becomes worse it often does come to a screwed up conclusion like a school shooting or suicide.

We had a kid, we will call him Jason, that was raised by two lesbians to be a SJW.

Please DO NOT do this to your poor kid. He was very much despised by all of the kids.

My kid tossed him across two tables and into a wall because of something he did to upset her.

The Janitor of the school, a VERY sweet man, wore a shirt that said "Jesus Love You" on it. He called the principal over and pointed out the shirt and the principal sent him home to put on something more appropriate and did this in front of Jason.

Which was really stupid of her, but it happened.

The next day, my kid tossed him for being an obnoxious dick.

When you put this nonsense in these kids heads, you are setting them up for an a$$ kicking, just FYI.

Last Edited by HarshingMyMellow on 08/30/2018 04:44 PM

Great thread topic and hugely important to shine a light on it. Good work and please continue to monitor and educate as much as you can. I was bullied for years over my appearance, bullied in sly ways, pushing when no one was looking, hard kicks to the shin when eyes were averted, whispers about my parents that made my eyes water with hate. When I snapped and held one off the floor against the wall by his throat I got suspended for the maximum period of 2 weeks during exams. Pushed to the mental limit and the adults back the pushers. Hate to imagine all the kids who have gone through the same.

thanks for your story.

and if some adults had just acknowledged the shit you were dealing with and occasionally told the others to STFU and stop the nonsense, then maybe you wouldn't have gotten suspended.

That is awful. My kids went to a school that had zero tolerance for bullying, that was a sick joke.

When my kid said anything to the teachers, they would tell her to not be a tattle tale.

After a couple of times, I just let her handle it herself. When they called me in, I told them that I would make sure for her three day suspension she had a wonderful time.

We moved to a school that actually handles things properly and no more trouble at school.

Yes

this is another, separate, but serious concern.

I'm hearing from parents with old children that people tell young kids to not tattle, not report, not talk about things, but to fix it themselves.

But then, when they become a teenager and the problems get legitimately dangerous, they don't talk about it and try to solve it themselves.

Then kids die because they don't seek out help because we told them for years to try to solve things on their own.

I'm trying to encourage my kids to talk to me, tattle TO ME if necessary, while trying to come up with solutions on their own, but still a little input from me.

This way, they'll still talk to me when they're older. They'll call me when they're 16-18 years old and got too drunk to care for themselves. I hope that doesn't happen, but I don't want to close communications

Just tell the kid doing the hitting that what he is experiencing now, is merely a dry run for life after school. He should be grateful for the early heads up.

I’m serious! I work in a place full of fucks like that. And I don’t need to smash people up. As much as I would love to.

That’s life in a nutshell.

On two occasions in grade school, two different bullies asked our teacher to speak in front of the rest of us, in class. Each said he wanted us to respect, and like him. This from somebody that beat up another kid at least once a month in the schoolyard, over something like recovering a basketball under the net.
I would have felt ashamed to say such a thing, but not these bullies. They both insisted we help them to be nicer persons by liking, and treating them with dignity.
I think they meant we no longer try to avoid them.

Hearing the other posts on this thread opened my eyes to a whole other view of how those bullies saw themselves; as innocent victims of mean, manipulative peers, who made them so mad they lashed out.

I still have no sympathy for them, or for the other posters claiming sob stories about being goaded to violence by shady backstabbers.

I guess that's my Dad. He brought me up to understand that, "Everywhere you go there will be people spreading bad words about you. Sometimes even true! But it's all a part of life. You don't try to stop them, get mad at them or fight fire with fire. It's the human comedy; why get worked up over people?"

lol, i think i touched a nerve as someone gave me red karma.

if you said that words shouldn't hurt, that you should ignore the whisper bullies, yet, something someone said in this thread annoyed you, then aren't you a hypocrite?

Schools are not easy now for smart kids. They are put on teams with the dumb kids for group work, never get to have another smart kid with them on the team so nobody to talk to, and if they say anything rude to the dumb kids (esp. if those dumb kids are "diverse") they get in a lot of trouble and ongoing trouble.

If you have a smart kid, consider homeschooling until about the beginning of high school.

I actually, remember when schools starting saying you couldn't hit back a kid that hit you back or they'd be suspended. My husband told my kids to defend themselves against bullies and the heck with what the school said. Bullying has gotten out of hand and most schools do nothing and threaten the kid being bullied if they try and defend themselves. Now bullying doesn't even stop after school with social media and is more easily spread. Schools are mess these days and a good amount of the nations youth.

I always liked to Squish Their Heads!!!

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My daughter is a teacher and she says it's awful now that kids are put in same class with rest of kids even if they have severe behavior problems or learning disabilities. She said it's unfair to the kids that want to learn because, it takes time from them by the distraction of the ones that need special attention. Plus, they are stressing teachers and the students out by mostly just teaching for the state tests. Recess is getting shorter and shorter and these kids don't get time to let out energy and come to resent school. She said some don't even pretend to try anymore. They just randomly pick answers on the tests and then the school and teachers get in trouble if test scores aren't good enough. Education needs to be reformed. Thought Devos would change some things but doesn't look like it.

This.

My 5th grader complained last year that he had too many disruptive kids in his class. My wife joined the PTO two years ago so she could get insight and make connections. This year, she used those connections to pull strings to get him into a class with only good kids. We're lucky that 2nd grade (for my daughter) has the least amount of disruptive kids of all the grades (K-5).

I got a job at the school to make sure my kids aren't suffering.

It's been an eye-opening experience.

People poop on public education, maybe rightly so, but the staff at my kids' school is very good trying to do right by all the students.

I have been strict with some of the 5th graders. About 20 kids came up to my son and said they were glad I was there! About the same told my son that I'm a pain in the ass. But I have gotten through to some of the difficult kids. One of them has very good natural leadership skills. I told him this and asked for his help to lead and guide the other difficult kids to make it a better year. He's been a big help.

One of the other difficult kids has an unusual calming influence on a different difficult kid. I thanked him for his help and those two kids -- who are so very different from each other -- are becoming good friends.

I guess if you give a challenged kid responsibility, they'll sometimes run with it and succeed.

But there are a few kids who scare the crap out of me. The kind of people who commit horrible crimes in 15 years and only upon reflection do others go, "oh yeah, maybe I shoudl've seen that coming?"

I guess you could say to the whisperer, "Speak up, you piece of SHIT!" Lol

I used to bully the bullies. Even back then seeing the weaker kids get picked on broke my heart.

Using social pressure to weed out the sensitive assure the sort of dog eat dog world which justifies certain people's existence.

My girl was being bullied in school by a sexual deviant. She was twelve or so at the time.

He made an obscene gestures at her.

She stabbed him in the hand with her compass point.

The teacher asked her did she do it? She said yes and that she'd do it again.

Teacher said nothing and that young fella never did anything, said anything or twitched around her ever again.

Later he was expelled for sexually harassing another girl.

Children need to be able to stand up for themselves without adult intervention.

In my school he would've then hit her in the head with something, like a desk.

Have no idea why such a long winded rant about it. Catch the little cocksucker after school and off grounds and kick the living shit out of him. See there, I'm not dumb after all. I can track you down any where you go and get you.

That was my specialty. I would tell my brother, "You're a bad word!". Then he would tell on me. "He said I'm a bad word." 'What word did he say?'. "A bad word". 'which word?'. "A bad word". 'right, but which word?'. "A bad word". 'Shut up!'

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If you are very lucky and your older sibling joins a liberal political group they can come home from college and practice their new liberal views on the younger siblings.

Minds exist to be broken, don't they?

That's just.....cruel! Bullying is one thing, but you've taken it way too far with that one.