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Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes

 
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Another thread made me read more about saccadic masking.

Every time you move your eyes (and they are moving all the time), your brain switches off the processing of retinal images. When the movement stops, the processing starts again. During that time you're effectively blind. It's called saccadic masking.

If this didn't happen, you'd see blurred images every time your eyes move.

Our field of vision seems to be continuous due to a phenomenom known as transsaccadic memory. The brain takes in the image obtained just before the saccadic mask sets in, and the image it gets when the mask is lifted. It then integrates these two images to fill in the gap.
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


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Check out EMDR


There are studies connected with reducing depression by creating environments (or enjoying complex natural environments-like forests) that cause the eye to constantly move. Something about the movements recalibrate the receptors that create stronger connections and counter-develop the onset of depression.

Study showing the Depression-Eye correlation:
[link to journals.plos.org (secure)]

Eye Movements Healing the Mind:
[link to www.mnn.com (secure)]
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Re: Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes
Another thread made me read more about saccadic masking.

Every time you move your eyes (and they are moving all the time), your brain switches off the processing of retinal images. When the movement stops, the processing starts again. During that time you're effectively blind. It's called saccadic masking.

If this didn't happen, you'd see blurred images every time your eyes move.

Our field of vision seems to be continuous due to a phenomenom known as transsaccadic memory. The brain takes in the image obtained just before the saccadic mask sets in, and the image it gets when the mask is lifted. It then integrates these two images to fill in the gap.
 Quoting: Dr. Moran

I believe this also relates peripherally to at least two driving [traffic] studies done as well. Great find!!

Temporal fluctuations in driving demand: the effect of traffic complexity on subjective measures of workload and driving performance - [link to eprints.whiterose.ac.uk]

and

An investigation of perceived vehicle speed from a driver's perspective - [link to journals.plos.org (secure)]

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Re: Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes
Interesting indeed, op. When I am drawing and painting from life, I rapidly "flash" my eyes back and forth between the subject and the model to compare my work to the real thing.

It looks like two pages of a flip book and makes it easy to spot discrepancies/errors.
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Re: Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes
Check out EMDR


There are studies connected with reducing depression by creating environments (or enjoying complex natural environments-like forests) that cause the eye to constantly move. Something about the movements recalibrate the receptors that create stronger connections and counter-develop the onset of depression.

Study showing the Depression-Eye correlation:
[link to journals.plos.org (secure)]

Eye Movements Healing the Mind:
[link to www.mnn.com (secure)]
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I did go thru the EMDR therapy myself for ptsd. I found it effective at the time. It involved the same lights used in the exorcist movie, if anyone recalls the scene where she is in therapy.
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Re: Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes
Another thread made me read more about saccadic masking.

Every time you move your eyes (and they are moving all the time), your brain switches off the processing of retinal images. When the movement stops, the processing starts again. During that time you're effectively blind. It's called saccadic masking.

If this didn't happen, you'd see blurred images every time your eyes move.

Our field of vision seems to be continuous due to a phenomenom known as transsaccadic memory. The brain takes in the image obtained just before the saccadic mask sets in, and the image it gets when the mask is lifted. It then integrates these two images to fill in the gap.
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


Kim Peak -- the Rain Man ---- I was watching a video with neurologist and Kim would move entire head, not eyes to follow things.... versus moving eyes and keeping head still.
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FOr those who don't know, Peak's memory is unparalleled.
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Re: Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes
Nice avatar OP Dr Flox was awesome. would have been nice to see a few episodes on his backstory.

also your thread is interesting, any way to turn it off other than LSD i thin I would prefer all the info even if blurry, maybe a firmware update?

Its interesting because wtf possible evolutionary advantage could there be in turning off your vision for microseconds? the evolution of eyes / eyelids / tear ducts and all the wetware processing that goes along with it makes no sense,

anything evolving to have have crusty dry eyes amongst species that have no sight is ludicrous, they would probably loose sight within hours, die of infection etc it days.

Meh enjoy the simulation folks.
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Re: Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes
what you are saying is motion is non existent to the human brain. it does not have the capacity to process it. Instead it tricks itself with some neat ways to believe it is processing motion. Ain't that a bitch! our mind is wired like a damn computer! Our mind builds up a matrix of images, frame upon frame to play it out in motion.
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Re: Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes
What's even more interesting is that your eyes never really stop moving. It means that a non-negligible fraction of what we perceive as reality is, in fact, made up (i.e. interpolated) by the brain.
 Quoting: Dr. Moran

ALL of what you perceive is "made up" in the brain. You don't see the world; you "see" a simulation of the world generated within your visual cortex. You're "seeing" neural signals inside your brain, not light itself.

What is the difference between brain circuits making you see something due to eye signals, or due to internal generation of the image? Both processes do the exact same thing in the brain.

If your brain was wired to a sufficiently complex computer, it could make you perceive anything at all, perfectly realistically, even though it was all "made up".

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Re: Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes
Another thread made me read more about saccadic masking.

Every time you move your eyes (and they are moving all the time), your brain switches off the processing of retinal images. When the movement stops, the processing starts again. During that time you're effectively blind. It's called saccadic masking.

If this didn't happen, you'd see blurred images every time your eyes move.

Our field of vision seems to be continuous due to a phenomenom known as transsaccadic memory. The brain takes in the image obtained just before the saccadic mask sets in, and the image it gets when the mask is lifted. It then integrates these two images to fill in the gap.
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


Ever watched a bird walk ?
 Quoting: Rocking It Harder


Sure. What of it?
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


They black out at every step.

Brain capacity limited.

So your finding is right.
 Quoting: Rocking It Harder


is that why they always walk funny one foot at a time?
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Ever watched a bird walk ?
 Quoting: Rocking It Harder


Sure. What of it?
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


They black out at every step.

Brain capacity limited.

So your finding is right.
 Quoting: Rocking It Harder


is that why they always walk funny one foot at a time?
 Quoting: scientia sit potentia


its like they pause between each step. very interesting
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Re: Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes
Another thread made me read more about saccadic masking.

Every time you move your eyes (and they are moving all the time), your brain switches off the processing of retinal images. When the movement stops, the processing starts again. During that time you're effectively blind. It's called saccadic masking.

If this didn't happen, you'd see blurred images every time your eyes move.

Our field of vision seems to be continuous due to a phenomenom known as transsaccadic memory. The brain takes in the image obtained just before the saccadic mask sets in, and the image it gets when the mask is lifted. It then integrates these two images to fill in the gap.
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


Eyeball / visual cache RAM & Buffers
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Re: Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes
Another thread made me read more about saccadic masking.

Every time you move your eyes (and they are moving all the time), your brain switches off the processing of retinal images. When the movement stops, the processing starts again. During that time you're effectively blind. It's called saccadic masking.

If this didn't happen, you'd see blurred images every time your eyes move.

Our field of vision seems to be continuous due to a phenomenom known as transsaccadic memory. The brain takes in the image obtained just before the saccadic mask sets in, and the image it gets when the mask is lifted. It then integrates these two images to fill in the gap.
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


Eyeball / visual cache RAM & Buffers
 Quoting: Red John

I have always believed that to be so.

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Re: Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes
Another thread made me read more about saccadic masking.

Every time you move your eyes (and they are moving all the time), your brain switches off the processing of retinal images. When the movement stops, the processing starts again. During that time you're effectively blind. It's called saccadic masking.

If this didn't happen, you'd see blurred images every time your eyes move.

Our field of vision seems to be continuous due to a phenomenom known as transsaccadic memory. The brain takes in the image obtained just before the saccadic mask sets in, and the image it gets when the mask is lifted. It then integrates these two images to fill in the gap.
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


Yes, that's my predators stare. By fixing the eyes on a point, you can take in more info than my moving your eyes a lot.
 Quoting: BRIEF

It's true. Good point. I've noticed the same thing. If you're watching and waiting for something to happen, focusing on a spot (in the infinity) and just being aware gives you a better reaction time than actively looking for things to happen.
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


In Martial arts, or any direct confrontation, striking just as your opponent moves their eyes may be just enough to slip past their guard.


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Re: Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes
Another thread made me read more about saccadic masking.

Every time you move your eyes (and they are moving all the time), your brain switches off the processing of retinal images. When the movement stops, the processing starts again. During that time you're effectively blind. It's called saccadic masking.

If this didn't happen, you'd see blurred images every time your eyes move.

Our field of vision seems to be continuous due to a phenomenom known as transsaccadic memory. The brain takes in the image obtained just before the saccadic mask sets in, and the image it gets when the mask is lifted. It then integrates these two images to fill in the gap.
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


Yes. Reality is blinking on-and-off at such speed that it looks like a stable, consistent unified field (of vision and matter), but our brains are projecting via the eyes dual images that appear to us as one without any gap (proven in the double-slit experiment, too). The non-locality of consciousness results in the brain simulating everything it 'sees' like from a data-stream and then it integrates them into one 'blinkered' reality.
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Re: Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes
First thing that comes to mind is daydreaming.
Idk why lol
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Lots of things turn off vision...think resources

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Re: Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes
Another thread made me read more about saccadic masking.

Every time you move your eyes (and they are moving all the time), your brain switches off the processing of retinal images. When the movement stops, the processing starts again. During that time you're effectively blind. It's called saccadic masking.

If this didn't happen, you'd see blurred images every time your eyes move.

Our field of vision seems to be continuous due to a phenomenom known as transsaccadic memory. The brain takes in the image obtained just before the saccadic mask sets in, and the image it gets when the mask is lifted. It then integrates these two images to fill in the gap.
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


Eyeball / visual cache RAM & Buffers
 Quoting: Red John

I have always believed that to be so.
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


I wonder what the refresh rate is scratching
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Re: Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes
Another thread made me read more about saccadic masking.

Every time you move your eyes (and they are moving all the time), your brain switches off the processing of retinal images. When the movement stops, the processing starts again. During that time you're effectively blind. It's called saccadic masking.

If this didn't happen, you'd see blurred images every time your eyes move.

Our field of vision seems to be continuous due to a phenomenom known as transsaccadic memory. The brain takes in the image obtained just before the saccadic mask sets in, and the image it gets when the mask is lifted. It then integrates these two images to fill in the gap.
 Quoting: Dr. Moran


Eyeball / visual cache RAM & Buffers
 Quoting: Red John

I have always believed that to be so.
 Quoting: Louis in Richmond


I wonder what the refresh rate is scratching
 Quoting: MrJustNsane


don't know but some times it hertz my eyes

certain flicker rates of lights and old CRT displays could trigger seizures
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is it related to the brain switching the inverted image received inside our retina so we don't see the world upside down?
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Lazy eyes are for the spiritually gifted :)
You cannot destroy my vision when you see my vision undestroyed because I am just an undestroyer.

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Here's a PhD in illusions that don't require you to move your eyes :)

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Re: Interesting: your visual cortex gets switched off every time you move your eyes
Another thread made me read more about saccadic masking.

Every time you move your eyes (and they are moving all the time), your brain switches off the processing of retinal images. When the movement stops, the processing starts again. During that time you're effectively blind. It's called saccadic masking.

If this didn't happen, you'd see blurred images every time your eyes move.

Our field of vision seems to be continuous due to a phenomenom known as transsaccadic memory. The brain takes in the image obtained just before the saccadic mask sets in, and the image it gets when the mask is lifted. It then integrates these two images to fill in the gap.
 Quoting: Dr. Moran

Hmm, ok so it lowers the frame rate, that makes sense everybody hates frame dropping (blurry grafics)

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